Who is that? You can address me as General.

Unforgiveness is quite a grey area. That day I sat with some elderly christians and we had a discussion with that. Many came up with their own versions. One elderly man had quite an interesting view, he said he will forgive but he never forget.

Another one said he forgives but he is wary of the personality of the person. He lent money to the person out of good grace but that person use it for wrong purposes and continue to ask him for money, so the christian brother say he is more careful that the person attitude because of the way he ask people for money.

How do you forgive and yet let go the pertinent issues? Like for me, I now know how to get out of a cg that can't function as one. I learn from bible study about Jesus kindness and compassion. If a cell group is hard up on just studying and doing work for God without even enjoying the ministry (i believe God's wants us to be happy and enjoy what we do) and they are suspicious about new people (even after 3 years) and clickish about their own members, then I can see the red flags.

Never forget means we learn something from this.

Forgiveness means when we see that person, you won't punch him in the face. bUT you give him  a big pat on the bag (with a lot of strength) to tell him what a good job he's doing but remind him he's a bit deviated from his goal. And smile and hug him so hard that he can't breath.

Who is that? You can address me as General.

Unforgiveness is quite a grey area. That day I sat with some elderly christians and we had a discussion with that. Many came up with their own versions. One elderly man had quite an interesting view, he said he will forgive but he never forget.

Another one said he forgives but he is wary of the personality of the person. He lent money to the person out of good grace but that person use it for wrong purposes and continue to ask him for money, so the christian brother say he is more careful that the person attitude because of the way he ask people for money.

How do you forgive and yet let go the pertinent issues? Like for me, I now know how to get out of a cg that can't function as one. I learn from bible study about Jesus kindness and compassion. If a cell group is hard up on just studying and doing work for God without even enjoying the ministry (i believe God's wants us to be happy and enjoy what we do) and they are suspicious about new people (even after 3 years) and clickish about their own members, then I can see the red flags.

Never forget means we learn something from this.

Forgiveness means when we see that person, you won't punch him in the face. bUT you give him  a big pat on the bag (with a lot of strength) to tell him what a good job he's doing but remind him he's a bit deviated from his goal. And smile and hug him so hard that he can't breath.

I am a different type of General.

Your company don't have General Manager?

Then how do you forget and let go.

You're telling me that you are 100% forgive. You mean to say, nobody close to you has ever disappointed you before?

Once bitten twice shy. So when you know the person's personality is like that, why go on to know that person?

You want to be disappointed again?

And how far can you take forgiveness. You write about the Wallah issues and stuff like that. If you can let go, then forget about it, why voice these things out in first place, they not under our control.

Then how do you forget and let go.

You're telling me that you are 100% forgive. You mean to say, nobody close to you has ever disappointed you before?

Once bitten twice shy. So when you know the person's personality is like that, why go on to know that person?

You want to be disappointed again?

And how far can you take forgiveness. You write about the Wallah issues and stuff like that. If you can let go, then forget about it, why voice these things out in first place, they not under our control.

Matthew 18: 21 Then Peter came and said to Him, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?" 22Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven. 23"For this reason the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his slaves.…

I remember some commentary wrote that Jesus meant unlimited times. This is bible standard    It is tough but this is what we should strife for lo

papaya face also got some level of unforgiveness if its measured by grudge.

but i do recall Matthew 21:12, when Jesus entered the temple, he saw there were gambling and business conducted there, he got angry and overturn the tables.

So there is such thing as holy anger.

How far? when you see something wrong, can you not voice up? can you not show your objection? That is the question.

he is just a small kids cowardly person i would say his own insecurity he pushing it onto other also targeting other with his own doctrine which he believed is right all the time
insensitive to other opinions or views............does it make sense? he need further rehabilitation i think

he is just a small kids cowardly person i would say his own insecurity he pushing it onto other also targeting other with his own doctrine which he believed is right all the time
insensitive to other opinions or views............does it make sense? he need further rehabilitation i think

Sylar111, I don't know what you see here but I'm seeing no contradiction.

THIS is uncalled for.

You are just adding fuel to fire.

You do not see a contradiction in the verses?

I see that you are now insulting me.

So far, even though I am in disagreement with you, I am respectful and respect the disagreement that we are in.

So is this also the kind of attitude you have? Gossiping openly about others just because they are in disagreement with you?

So is this also the kind of attitude you have? Gossiping openly about others just because they are in disagreement with you?

That's not a misinterpretation. That's Old English.

Faith in the person of Jesus Christ.

You don't understand how language progress as time goes by, bro?

No I don't see the contradiction.
What are you tensed up all the time?

You under stress or what?

It's not because of this.

Can I challenge you and all the other Christians reading this? 

There's no record, he did that out of anger.

Anger is not always sin. There is a type of anger of which the Bible approves, often called “righteous indignation.” God is angry (Psalm 7:11; Mark 3:5), and believers are commanded to be angry (Ephesians 4:26). Two Greek words in the New Testament are translated as “anger.” One means “passion, energy” and the other means “agitated, boiling.” Biblically, anger is God-given energy intended to help us solve problems. Examples of biblical anger include David’s being upset over hearing Nathan the prophet sharing an injustice (2 Samuel 12) and Jesus’ anger over how some of the Jews had defiled worship at God’s temple in Jerusalem (John 2:13-18). Notice that neither of these examples of anger involved self-defense, but a defense of others or of a principle.

You are saying the meaning did not change as you read through the verses.

Are you sure?

Or you just do not pay attention to details?

Oh. In RWI, this is the kind of replies that people give.

Are you going to call them stress up?

As Christians, should we be less sensitive about errors?