It is not about the perfect translation. It's translating with integrity. Having the heart to translate the word of God as accurate as possible without adding the own meaning in so as not to taint the Word of God.

Well, reading the Bible is not the same as Reading a story book or a text book. You are talking about the Word of God here. And you want to make sure that what you read is not distorted. Even though it's harder to read the KJV. I sleep better knowing that what I read has not been distorted.

I really do not know how you can consider Dynamic Equivalent acceptable. I just shown you that just changing the grammer even 'of' with 'in' will distort the whole meaning away. Unless you want to just have a casual understanding of what you read and accept other people's opinion instead of the actual words of God then be it.

When I told you that NIV has certain section in it that is totally different from the other versions, I wasn't joking.

Even seminary students do not take NIV seriously. Taking NIV as a study material is an embarassment. And I am talking about seminary students who do are not so serious about the Word of God. So obviously, the words of this author cannot be taken seriously.

But since to you NIV is the acceptable version, then nothing I say will change your mind. You can read from man's interpretation of God's word.

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It is not about the perfect translation. It's translating with integrity. Having the heart to translate the word of God as accurate as possible without adding the own meaning in so as not to taint the Word of God.

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Bro, consider this sentence as case study to translate from english to indonesia:

English: Jesus Loves Me
Indonesia: Jesus cinta saya or Jesus kasih saya

(i am indonesian so kenot talk malay/tamil/chinese hehehe)...

i tell u bro, it's not 100% accurate to translate love to either cinta / kasih. Love is not cinta Love is not kasih either. so the integiry of word love is only the luxury of english speaking. For indonesian the best match is either cinta / kasih.

to add, some indonesian translation, the translator add something like this: Jesus cinta saya dengan murni. cuz cinta has some "eros / sex" attribute, therefore translator add "yang murni" which means: pure.

Why not kasih: Kasih is the act of giving. different story n context lol...

and that's only 1 verb lol... sure from hebrew to english there are a lot of adjustment being done. either by adding or something.

Ya imagine chinese literal translation. the grammar is opposite direction i think.

as i have said translation job is very tiring job. i think niv take 10 years to translate a version.

KJV or Geneva bible version

Well. Some of the translations are actually wrong.

but i think majority of Christians in churches across M'sia either possess the NIV or the KJV as their Bible. Then how? 

i go biblehub.com & biblegateway.com for verses comparison when i'm in front of the PC so quite ok also la, cos can see EKV , Geneva, etc all laid out side by side.

edited: sori, sori  ESKV not EKV

p.s.  Catholics dun read Bible yes?

Just wondering are you from Catholic church?

Discussing only. Relax la. Not that I declare NIV is the best or what.

Later I quote more points to refute

Normally when someone tells me this,
I get very insulted.

But for your case, I will make it an exception.

ah haha hahahha !! yeah!! after all tat u've posted, how can u possibly b Catholic 

How about NVKJV?

Busted for what? I really don't get you.

Its a wierd church. What to do.

Roughly la. Sometime one guy will come up to the pulpit, he preach for awhile then he run out of ideas, he go down, then a lady come up and preach something, then she finish, then another guy goes up.

Anyway
Amplified Version
Phillipians 2:6
6 Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God [possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God], did not think this equality with God was a thing to be eagerly grasped or retained,

New International Version
Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;

Philippians 2:6 (KJV)
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.

Philippians 2:6 (GNV)
6 Who being in the form of God, thought it no robbery to be equal with God:

Guess the dynamic version is "better"
See Ngaisteve, I can show you hundred or thousand evidences.
But then, it will all be in vain.

Sylar111, I don't know what you see here but I'm seeing no contradiction.

Normally when someone tells me this,
I get very insulted.

But for your case, I will make it an exception.

he is just too orthodox to begin with believing what was preached to him is right other is wrong

The fact that he's angry all the time and jumpy, doesn't take much to get him emotionally compromised.

I think something is seriously wrong or still young, belum matang? I don't know.

oh that one, one gang lah will do praise and worship. They got people in charge of worship.

But the church got no leader one. Everybody is leader.

he is just a small kids cowardly person i would say his own insecurity he pushing it onto other also targeting other with his own doctrine which he believed is right all the time
insensitive to other opinions or views............does it make sense? he need further rehabilitation i think

I think the verse also covers submit to one another.

Submission is not only to authority is also to your subordinates too.

I believe there's a big misunderstanding in that issue, in that christians always think of submitting to their leaders, but leaders also shuld submit to their members, as in husband and wife submit to one another.

For me its like this, without love, kindness and compassion in whatever ministry, cg and church I am in, the submitting part is out of the question. I cannot submit to a leader that have no love for his own sheep. If he talks unkindly, like the leader who told me that cg is not a social club when i raise the issue of clickishness and boycotts in the cell, I left. Why? He totally cannot grasp the concept of Jesus being kind and compassion, and he totally misunderstood my contentions of joining cg thinking that I want to join for social purposes.

About that church, its located in Kajang, it has no leader - confirm.

Who is that? You can address me as General....