Well of course, the world is like that. They don't know that there's a God who cares and is able to do so and thus need to find ways or means to solve own problem.

Someone have to take lead, personally I don't use watsapp.

you guys go ahead.

Pehkay also knowledgeable.

pehkay

Pehkay bro, you use watsapp?

Hang in there bro.

You can copy any material posted in our thread.

The Bible is quite clear on Trials of life and most of the time it has to do with either other people or yourself.

Other people means they are against you, sometime doesn't even make sense why.
When it has to do with yourself means usually in the area of pride, jealousy, etc.

When talk about suffering, God will never inflict things like diseases / sickness or even car accidents as part of testing.

We must be clear as what is allowed as trial/testing and what is considered an attack from the Devil.

Always.

Whoa Nice!

In Heaven, everybody is young.



Here's another Christian movie, I think our local churches have yet to see.

http://www.graceunplugged.com/

We are peculiar people as one pastor puts it.

We are all in the same boat. If truth is known, most of us feels out of place with one another because of the different spiritual maturity.

And the Bible has an antidote for that.

Best thing to do is, not to think negative of others.

Philippians 4:8 - Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.

That is happens to Christian who look to the old Testament Law as measuring tape for righteousness.

The Law of God cannot bring righteousness to anyone.

It wasn't designed for that. Anyone who put themselves under the law of God will become very legalistic Christian and this isn't what Jesus want for the Church. The New Testament took so much effort to explain, the Law of God has been done with, it's obsolete. And yet we have Christian trying to go back to the Law again.

Even today I've seen preachers who preaches erroneous doctrine as indicated above, putting burden of guilt unto people, for example they'll say you must walk righteously before God (duh we are already righteous before God by Faith), Salvation is free but stress so much that it's costly (Duh If Salvation is free, it's free, we can't pay for it).

I love Melaka but I'm in Klang Valley.

Hope this thread can be a buddy to you.

Tell me. Can PM if u want.

Don't give up too soon.

What is it that you seek?

I don't want to make any speculation. You may have rightly felt God has abandoned you.

But our walk with God cannot be based on feeling.

It's about having Faith and exercising Faith all the way.

Sometime things don't turn out the way we want after we pray is because we forgot there
are forces of darkness resisting our prayer.

Remember Daniel?

Daniel 10:13 - But the prince of the Persian kingdom resisted me twenty-one days. Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, because I was detained there with the king of Persia.


The prince of Persian kingdom represents one of the hierarchy of the Satan's devils.

I did pray for you. I pray that you will not give up hope in your walk with God.

God Bless.

Don't be so hard on yourself, and you shouldn't condemn yourself in anyway.

That's what the devil wants anyway.

It takes time for a flower to bloom.

Faith in testing MUST be completed in testings. The word of God is clear on that.

So carry on where ever you left.

Let continue in our thread.

Actually when Jesus spoke about False prophet or False teachers we have to look in the context of what he means.

There are 2.

One who denies Christ and (2 John 1:7)
One who claim to be the Christ. (Matthew 24:4)

Not What cloth they wear or what car they drive.

The word of God also exhorted in

Hebrews 13:17 (KJV) - Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

If you trust God as CEO then you need to acknowledge his sovereign ship in the leaders appointed.

God appoints, God can also remove.

Honestly no one can stop you from wanting to get involve with what Church do with their finance but If I were I wouldn't even want to get involve at all because people talk.

Not only them, You as well.

And one of the fruit of the spirit to apply;

1 Corinthians 13:5 (NIV) - It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

You got to have Faith that our Heavenly Father is in control.

Having said that, what I do is, i reserve my judgement against anyone to God almighty alone and many times I was rebuked by God, for the same measure I judge others, it will be used back to measure against me.

So in essence what God is telling me, WHO am I really to judge these people? It's really between them and God.

Hope you understand something here.

ok. no problem.

That's how you see it.

And no, I'm not asking you to accept sin.

But to live a life free from worries.



This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Apr 29 2014, 04:46 PM

Interesting topic.

I'm not too sure if the people in here understands your question. It sounds deep.

It starts from there isn't it? We are adopted through receiving of God's Holy Spirit in our life then the divine birth happens in the process of our mind being repented all the time towards God.