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post Jul 12 2014, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(z21j @ Jul 12 2014, 11:06 PM)
2.4k to an engineer is rather low, but as fresh grad; bargaining power is lower unless your have special abilities or prior working experience.

EP wise I cant comment much cos I dont know how the MoM assess. I believe there are also forumers here with <3k salary get EP.

Erm, just make it short as per spore latest budget. The new hire policy is to give priority to Singaporean first, and additional criteria need to be fulfilled before to offer to foreigners.
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Yeah... 2.4k seems low but hard to bargain also. Max should be around 2.8k right? $400 difference.

Now when I look at jobs posted on famous sites, most of them ask for Singaporen/SPR only.

Maybe I can ask about it first before confirming my acceptance. Ty for your advice smile.gif


Btw, I find that it's quite hard to find job through those sites without going through head hunter.

Also... Many ppl say M'sian go there kena bully one. How true is that? doh.gif
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post Jul 12 2014, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jul 12 2014, 09:13 PM)
2.4k although I think I heard 2.5k when from another call earlier before the interview.

I thought EP need at least 3k now?

Can tell why after August harder to get SG offer?
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June is the graduation period for sg uni. Unless u r much better than them, ur chance are slimmer compare with other period. Local engineers getting above 3 I heard, fresh from uni, construction.
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jul 12 2014, 11:21 PM)
Yeah... 2.4k seems low but hard to bargain also. Max should be around 2.8k right? $400 difference.

Now when I look at jobs posted on famous sites, most of them ask for Singaporen/SPR only.

Maybe I can ask about it first before confirming my acceptance. Ty for your advice smile.gif
Btw, I find that it's quite hard to find job through those sites without going through head hunter.

Also... Many ppl say M'sian go there kena bully one. How true is that?  doh.gif
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need to consider your annual leave, insurance and medical benefit. if these benefits-in-kind can balance off, then overall package should be ok ba. For Malaysians that cant really get good offer for the 1st job in Singapore, just need to remember this - 2 yrs apply PR --> get better job with relevant exposure and experience = higher bargaining power.

get bully?? Dont think too much. You have your strength that they might not possess. Most of my singaporean frens at our age <30, whose parent were previously from Malaysia too. Everyone is equal.

All the best, hope you can make a good decision that you need to responsible and no regret off for the next 2 yrs (at least). After reply them.. a series of admin stuff waiting for u... the earlier u make decision, the more time for your preparation.



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post Jul 13 2014, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Jul 12 2014, 11:53 PM)
June is the graduation period for sg uni. Unless u r much better than them, ur chance are slimmer compare with other period. Local engineers getting above 3 I heard, fresh from uni, construction.
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Agree. HP used to be paying 2.8k for fresh engineering grad. Not sire about now but I'm not surprise if it is 3k.

QUOTE(z21j @ Jul 12 2014, 11:53 PM)
need to consider your annual leave, insurance and medical benefit. if these benefits-in-kind can balance off, then overall package should be ok ba. For Malaysians that cant really get good offer for the 1st job in Singapore, just need to remember this - 2 yrs apply PR --> get better job with relevant exposure and experience = higher bargaining power.

get bully?? Dont think too much. You have your strength that they might not possess. Most of my singaporean frens at our age <30, whose parent were previously from Malaysia too. Everyone is equal.

All the best, hope you can make a good decision that you need to responsible and no regret off for the next 2 yrs (at least). After reply them.. a series of admin stuff waiting for u... the earlier u make decision, the more time for your preparation.
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Don't need to wait 2 years. After 6 months you can start trying to apply PR... hopefully no new policy.
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post Jul 13 2014, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(gnc88 @ Jul 13 2014, 12:30 AM)
Don't need to wait 2 years. After 6 months you can start trying to apply PR... hopefully no new policy.
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My observation IN GENERAL, exceptional case not considered.
6 months - 2008-2010
1 year - 2011-2012
From 2013 onwards, staying here >1 yr also not guarantee a PR. Once you fail first application, you need to wait for another 6 months before you can re-apply. The processing time for each application is approximately 6 months.
Yes you may start apply after 6 months but confirm fail, IRRESPECTIVE you salary.
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post Jul 13 2014, 05:44 AM

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QUOTE(z21j @ Jul 12 2014, 11:01 PM)
Welcome to sg.
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Thanks.

Anyway, you guys not playing futsal? Only meeting up for badminton?
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post Jul 13 2014, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(z21j @ Jul 13 2014, 01:52 AM)
My observation IN GENERAL, exceptional case not considered. 
6 months - 2008-2010
1 year - 2011-2012
From 2013 onwards, staying here >1 yr also not guarantee a PR. Once you fail first application, you need to wait for another 6 months before you can re-apply. The processing time for each application is approximately 6 months.
Yes you may start apply after 6 months but confirm fail, IRRESPECTIVE you salary.
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Yes. I only apply for my PR once cross 2 year mark.
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post Jul 13 2014, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jul 12 2014, 11:21 PM)
Yeah... 2.4k seems low but hard to bargain also. Max should be around 2.8k right? $400 difference.

Now when I look at jobs posted on famous sites, most of them ask for Singaporen/SPR only.

Maybe I can ask about it first before confirming my acceptance. Ty for your advice smile.gif
Btw, I find that it's quite hard to find job through those sites without going through head hunter.

Also... Many ppl say M'sian go there kena bully one. How true is that?  doh.gif
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2.4k is a bit low. I believe u can get at least 2.7k even being a fresh graduate. Few company like Sembcorp, Keppel can offer this kind of salary (non first class). Not to mention Shell, exxon, Chevron etc. In fact most company in JI can match EP salary.

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post Jul 13 2014, 11:22 AM

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post Jul 13 2014, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(z21j @ Jul 13 2014, 01:52 AM)
My observation IN GENERAL, exceptional case not considered
6 months - 2008-2010
1 year - 2011-2012
From 2013 onwards, staying here >1 yr also not guarantee a PR. Once you fail first application, you need to wait for another 6 months before you can re-apply. The processing time for each application is approximately 6 months.
Yes you may start apply after 6 months but confirm fail, IRRESPECTIVE you salary.
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Why wait 2 years more chance? Urban legends? Why confirm fail but still got exceptional case? None of LYN pipu exceptional?
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post Jul 13 2014, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Jul 12 2014, 11:53 PM)
June is the graduation period for sg uni. Unless u r much better than them, ur chance are slimmer compare with other period. Local engineers getting above 3 I heard, fresh from uni, construction.
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Oh... But as fresh, they're offering just assistant engineer post. Next level only proceed to engineer. Maybe that makes the difference?

QUOTE(athrun300 @ Jul 13 2014, 09:42 AM)
2.4k is a bit low. I believe u can get at least 2.7k even being a fresh graduate. Few company like Sembcorp, Keppel can offer this kind of salary (non first class). Not to mention Shell, exxon, Chevron etc. In fact most company in JI  can match EP salary.
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I don't know which jalan can find higher salary one now. On jobstreet/jobscentral one some stated singaporean only.

Let's see if I can get 2.5. Try ask ask see how.

After 1 year or 2 years experience in the company probably get better pay or better chance in other places.
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post Jul 13 2014, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(meonkutu11 @ Jul 13 2014, 05:44 AM)
Thanks.

Anyway, you guys not playing futsal? Only meeting up for badminton?
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PM me if you are keen in futsal. I have a regular session on Wednesday night and Saturday noon.
Which area would you be living in?
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post Jul 13 2014, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(GiNgEr^fIsH @ Jul 13 2014, 02:06 PM)
PM me if you are keen in futsal. I have a regular session on Wednesday night and Saturday noon.
Which area would you be living in?
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Thanks Bro...I will contact you once I be there. My HR told me that I will be living in a temporary house in clarke quay or orchard area. No exact address yet.
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QUOTE(meonkutu11 @ Jul 13 2014, 04:19 PM)
Thanks Bro...I will contact you once I be there. My HR told me that I will be living in a temporary house in clarke quay or orchard area. No exact address yet.
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Nice location to stay in rclxms.gif
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post Jul 13 2014, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(meonkutu11 @ Jul 12 2014, 08:09 PM)
Will be joining you all next month...working in Suntec Tower.
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QUOTE(meonkutu11 @ Jul 13 2014, 04:19 PM)
Thanks Bro...I will contact you once I be there. My HR told me that I will be living in a temporary house in clarke quay or orchard area. No exact address yet.
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hi class ppl spotted
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post Jul 13 2014, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jul 13 2014, 05:04 PM)
hi class ppl spotted
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I'm just a poor kid lor. Just for temporary tongue.gif before company can find a suitable apartment based on the allowance value..also it close to the office!
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post Jul 13 2014, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(meonkutu11 @ Jul 13 2014, 05:22 PM)
I'm just a poor kid lor. Just for temporary tongue.gif  before company can find a suitable apartment based on the allowance value..also it close to the office!
fuuuu expat package means surely elite liao. congrats bro.
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post Jul 13 2014, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(meonkutu11 @ Jul 13 2014, 05:22 PM)
I'm just a poor kid lor. Just for temporary tongue.gif  before company can find a suitable apartment based on the allowance value..also it close to the office!
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i got a unit at the sails, marina side and another at spottiswoode residences near sgh for rent... interested?
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post Jul 13 2014, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Jul 13 2014, 12:47 PM)
Why wait 2 years more chance? Urban legends? Why confirm fail but still got exceptional case? None of LYN pipu exceptional?
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length of stay is one of the considerations. Friends/colleagues/juniors that I know who stayed in singapore (some 1 yr, some 1.5 yr) applied PR early this year and got rejected + asked them to re-apply only after 6 months. I believe their salary is definitely not an issue.

Exceptional case is where you have special talent/ or you are entrepreneur etc.. for those who started with EP and no prior stay in Spore, GENERALLY "confirm" fail if apply <1 year NOW. Well, I also wish that someone from LYN can share the exceptional cases.


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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jul 13 2014, 09:10 PM)
i got a unit at the sails, marina side and another at spottiswoode residences near sgh for rent... interested?
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Now u work as property agent ah??? tongue.gif

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