haha, taking engineering as example, I do realized that engineering is not so great in S'pore compare to in Msia.
For example I went interview today which offered me for 2.3k without OT (degree holder)
It is damn low consider the work load (sometime work 12 hours/midnight)
But again if you save well the SGD convert to MYR still looks nice.

I am currently considering if I should take low pay job in SG and get PR asap, or should I work in Msia for 2 years first so easier to get employed and better pay?

that's basically a diploma job, doing coordination work..
woo.500SGD per day? even working 20days per month gonna giv u 10k pm.

Best paid labourer job so far in SG.

Yea I know, I was in Korea for few months. Though of getting a job there but can't seize any opportunity as can't speak koraen.
I myself have no problem to travel overseas and work away from desk, that's have been expected when taking engineering.
by the way, care to advice on potential job offer, or perhaps got any kangtao to share? hehe
can pm oso.thanks

I see. But how did you get landed on the job? You join a company here and being sent there? Or you straight apply a project there as project based work?

People would look at you like how you look at fitters and grinders. Fitters and grinders may think they are professional too in their own aspect.

Even my hubby who has this professional engineer license I still think he is a laborer same class with the mangala workers. My company provide funds for projects, during meetings with those professionals, developer, architect, engineer, contractor, bla bla bla, they look all same to me, people who get the job done, same like the carpenter who do my closet, no people at my side really care what certification they have and how hard to get it.

I see. okok. That's great
Hope I can find similar opportunity as well

Hmm..so far I cnt get into any MNC in S'pore, and that's why I choose to currently stay in Msia instead to work for a japan company..

I get what you mean, but when I was in Korea, being an asian in an asian environment dis quite similar here..maybe diff if I could master the korean language.

certain people who regards welding inspector as laborer may not known the powerful of certified Welding Inspector like CSWIP. the same applies for PE.

I see. I understand that, but for a fresh grad like me, it is kinda impossible to enter a foreign project. I will try work hard for that. Thanks for widen my view.

Typical in every engineering work. No matter what color, position and skills still have to bend over to let the client bang us.

Then bring you out at site to cook and work a little more then bring back to office to bang again.

<repeat from monday to sunday>

Do something bad and let the whole industry know, no one will use you again

Lol... I also small fry now...

Depends la... If one engineer cause the whole site to burn down, get into news or something. I think ppl will know la

Work procedure is ok. I got no complains about that.

In projects not everything goes according to plan. That is where people get f***ed by client.
Is all about $$ to the client side, that is where people need to draw a thin red line as boundary.
You pay peanut, you get monkey. Is that simple.

All that talk is typical of EPC/EPCM work. Even than people never understand the complexity of the job and assume things will go according to "design plan". That is why site work and office work is 2 different worlds. Every site engineer will tell you the same remark. We will do our best to solve the problem, but dont expect it to be the same as the first initial agreement. That why EPC/EPCM always have revisions on drawing designs and work specs. Meeting every week upon work progress status.

A matured engineer will understand what to do when changes comes and will not complain about the initial agreement that was made. We learn to be more flexible until the boundary of cost is too much, then we stop and re think/re evaluate our job scope.

Money is always an issue regardless what size of the project you do. An estimate for changing a pipe is not the same during installation and during removing. That is only one small example of the many i had in mind. That is why initial estimated cost must be multiplied by a factor, and that factor is always good enough to be used for the time and cost to cover for delays and over shot budgets.

yeah we do encounter those as well. that is where you come in as a client.

I know what you are talking about I am stuck at the same situation as well. But I try my best to continue, never to waste a second in lay around doing nothing or fighting. I am not the type that like to sit around, I will end up sleeping. That is what I am, even boring job makes me sleep.

Sometimes it is as simple as a 25 mm X 25 mm X 10 mm plate in the end i get a 250 mm X 250 mm X 10 mm.

You are right they always play the blame game. But sometimes you just need to set their mind in the correct direction.

I havent been in Korea shipyard. They seem to do things a lot better there, look at Shell Prelude FLNG.

Well what to expect for a guy being paid SGD 1-2 dollar an hour. lol. well at least i could make use of the 250 and split by 10. At least i know the welder have plenty to spare. lol.

I honestly know these guys are way underpaid, so i expected monkey results on my stuff. Those shipyard guys knew i was laughing like hell at those not knowing the difference between 250 mm and 25mm.

Apparently Korean welders are one the bloody best in the world, even Australia knows it. We use to send our pipes there for really expensive welding control valves, just cant afford to f*** it up when we can buy a Ferrari with one valve.

Throwing an old story....

Norway rig owner awaiting answers after sinking drama in South Korea
Odfjell Drilling still does not know how the 'Deepsea Aberdeen' could sink while it was under construction at Daewoo's Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering yard, Saturday morning.
Marius B. Staveli Journalist, Jan Oddvar Eide Journalist, Michael Sandelson Translator
Publisert: 02.jan. 2014 15:34 Oppdatert: 03.jan. 2014 16:39

Daewoo was still constructing the Norwegian company's 'Deepsea Aberdeen' at their South Korea yard when she went down.
Bergen-based National Oilwell Varco (NOV) had 38 employees working on the rig at the time when she took on water. All were evacuated immediately and brought to land in safety.

There were no injuries, NOV managing director Tor Henning Ramfjord in southern Norway's Kristiansand told regional paper Fædrelandsvennen, Saturday. NOV added they had the situation under control.
No answers for now
"We're still waiting for information from the yard as to why the rig sank, and we can't currently comment further on the matter, Odfjell communications director Gisle Johanson said to Aftenbladet, Monday.

"We're in regular contact with the yard, but have to wait until we get the confirmed information from Daewoo before we can form an independent opinion as to the cause of the incident and its consequences. It's the yard's responsibility to follow up and investigate the incident, but we'll be closely following work they are doing to uncover the causes and consequences," added Mr Johanson.

Demands
He describes Daewoo as a serious and experienced player. The company has previously constructed two similar rigs for Odfjell, the 'Deepsea Atlantic' and 'Deepsea Stavanger'. The new 'Deepsea Aberdeen' will be almost an exact copy of the second rig, which is currently in operation for BP in Tanzania. Statoil is leasing the 'Deepsea Atlantic' from Odfjell up to 31 August 2015.

"We have had a long and good cooperation with the yard and expect that they now take responsibility for finding the cause of the rig sinking, and to ensure a good implementation of the rest of the construction process," Mr Johanson stated.

On the side notes; for some reasons one of our drillship that currently in SHI now delay one quarter from the original delivery schedule.

We built 8 semis and few jack ups in Kfels and all delivered ahead of schedule.

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