I tot I answered that. 2% possibility is still possible.

But obviously less probable considering the numbers other possible way to get away with a gangbang without the bf and the society being judgemental on her.

The best way is still, no one needs to know. She has nothing to gain by letting another person know about it.

Simpleton.

Only consequences that she MIGHT live with is liver cirrhosis. RAPE is DEFINITELY NOT one of them.
The additional consequences of being drunk in Malaysia in specific apparently to some idiot is rape. I really don't know if you are trying to justify your past action of raping a drunk woman or what. It's not acceptable. Can you agree on this?

Rape is rape. ONLY circumstance it's not RAPE is when you get CONSENT. And people that is drunk/passed out can't give consent. Try sink this down your head can ar? That means if she pass out; you bang wall that night la. What so difficult?

If a thief is not guilty. He should be called MishimaZ and not a thief.
Because all thief ALWAYS get away with their crime. It has become a f*cking NORM to live with thieves. Or maybe MishimaZ is one of few thieves in disguise.

Does that mean the moment the phone leaves your hand, I can go cover my face, take your phone away and say "Hey, which eye of yours saw me stealing it". That's how dumb you sounded you know?

Do you realize that even before any stupid point you are trying to make, you yourself will acknowledge the root of the problem.
And yet you denies it in later part of your whatever statement.

Do you understand the meaning of this word. CONSENT.

Eh, maybe you are not kind enough to send her home and tuck her in.
But can you at least think with you brain and leave her alone? That's a choice a MAN that respects civil rights others will do. I'm not too sure about dogs tho.

Binge drinking destroys her health, doesn't reflect someone who is responsible bla bla bla. Only option you have is stay far far away from them. Still, you are NOT entitled to f*ck her without consent. Agreeable?

No. I did say consented sex are good times. What dogs and rapist you talking about?
Dogs and are only for those who didn't get consent. Got comprehension problem?

Well, I jog topless all the time. You are welcome to envy.
You only get to touch me if you are as hot.

I appreciate fine bodywork without violating their rights. It's her right to be naked. It's my right to look in that direction. Is there a written rule that I can't do that? I doubt you even know the meaning of pervert. Let me tell you what is! It's like you crawling under table like a mouse, deliberately trying to see the color of the panties. Then, your hand start to reach for your d*ck. That's not only perverted. That's gross and sick!

You can't go tell her "if you are naked, you will be rape and the rapist is faultless." - That is just dumb. They wear whatever they like la. You don't like what you are looking at; you got problem looking away? Its a free country. Or it's not?

Unlike you, it's very likely that you will try get these hot women drunk because you THINK it's free pass to get between their legs if they are drunk enough.
A TRUE HYPOCRITE.

I have nothing against being vigilant.
But i'm ALL against how the society accepting criminal living among them.

Well, read again your first statement that I have bolded.
Are you an another idiot that advocates "Being drunk and raped by others is not rape"?

Are you that idiot? (It's a question btw. Please don't be too offended even if you are. )

All I ask for is open your eyes, understand that any form of violation to civil rights is UNACCEPTABLE. From pick pocket, snatch thief, right up to rape and murder. We have Akta Jenayah for a reason. Although its implement and execution is rather hilarious at times, but nonetheless, the sole purpose is to keep the numbers of dogs. Even dogs have to think twice to grab a bone that doesn't belong to them.

The problem that makes our society sick is because they start to embrace criminal activity instead of despising them. E.g. "Being drunk and raped by others is not rape". "Stealing handphone on the table is not stealing because it's left on the table by the owners free will". That's embracing wrong doings!

Let me see what's next! someone break into your house rape your wife and daughter, murdered you. And then, the hellgate keeper blames you by saying "Don't you know KL is unsafe, why the hell you put a small lock!" then you gonna say "yeah, it's my fault?"

Woah...very clever very clever... I give you bigger round of applause than endau02. Happy?

Thoughts are thoughts. They hurt nobody. You are trying to start a straw argument here. Gotcha!

That's goal shifting!
From " clearly understood the consequences of each actions, for example by shoving bottles of rums into their mouths.
to I just thought you are so self righteous til I read this.

How does the number of VIP passes I get has anything to do with violation of civil rights? Damm cute.
I shit you not, those passes ain't free. I have to EARN them!

I also think whooping your stupid @ss la. But is your stupid @ss whooped?

Until I get a base bat walk toward with an angry face, then you may go get yourself a rifle. Remember to say "stand right there or I will shoot" before you put a bullet between my eyes. It's self defense and you will walk away a free man.

That's a f*ck load of assumptions! This how I'm gonna do it. Points in one side. Bull crap assumption one side.

Thought are thoughts. Who gets punished for having thoughts?
What exactly are you reminding?

I corrected you on the point where you said "men are assumed dogs and rapist". Hence, I said "sex if consented are good times. Not all men are dogs.
Just only those who can't keep their pants zipped. Comprehendes?

Are you trying to equate dressing sexily and accepting drinks with "try taunting a rottweiler by poking your hands into the cage and beat it whatever and assume you will be safe because the dog has no single right to bite your hands off"?

This is just lousy. Try harder.

That only means it's just a matter of time who is the next victim until the assailant is caught.

Your only mistake is you let the fight reach your doorstep.

I wish you don't have to. When there comes a day you need gun to protect you home, you will soon realize what a dog life you are living. I probably long gone. Save it bro. You can put those good muscle into better use.

I written so far wasn't about absolving women from their responsibility to protect themselves. What I have pointed out so far after pages and hours is that when a crime is taking place; first thing that comes to a typical MishimaZ head is "I wanna stay out of trouble". 2nd in mind, "why the f*ck this fella put herself in such situation. *disgusted". 3rd comes in mind, "I better run to my 4 corners of my wall" and his electric dens for endau02. What MishimaZ forgotten with ability in stand kickboxing; he would rather fight ME rather than preventing the same crime that could happen to his family. This reflect how lonely everyone in this society is.

I wouldn't be surprised the same shit happen in the same club over and over again. Many have pointed the loop holes in the story. Many situation where this crime could spotted. What is LEFT HERE IS A GOOD MAN TO DO THE RIGHT THING. Looks already there are already no 2 good men. I wonder how many more.

Experienced. I am. It was inaction causing me guilt. Maybe I could have done something for her.
Perhaps, you don't mind living such guilt. Keep telling yourself it isn't your burden to carry.


P.S. Are just a blardy big bunch of...whatever you call it...
This post has been edited by RUI: Apr 22 2014, 12:59 AM

Wikipedia. You know, only soft science CAN come out with statistics that varies more than 50%. It's almost as good as publishing anything that floats their boat.
In this case, that's exactly what you have been. doing.

It's a question still. You assume that it's consented despite how unfavorable and illogically it is.

Your assumption leads absolving men from their responsibility to protect civil rights. Worse still, simple practice not to take what doesn't belong to you.
Well, dogs instinct. Grab whatever tossed to them. Kudos!

My ammo is simple. If you see something, say something. Very simple solution. Why is this solution difficult?
If indeed she is a piece of meat, leave the piece of meat alone la.

I personally think that most forumers here are waiting when is his turn to have his day. Just like every dogs has its day.

Which part is that? I wasn't jousting if women are responsible to their own safety. I was jousting IF it was the rape, why nobody despises the rapist as tho that piece of meat is rightfully his. Two idiots that has verified this.

Anyway, cheap punches like these. I won't feel a pinch.

so, now...

If you have read my earlier post, I did say its STUPID to use any statistic from your so called soft science.

Her putting herself in that circumstance equates consent to go under her pants. You born ugly means you give me consent to punch your face ar?
If consented gangbang, what's logically is she will go home with a smile. Else, she is trying to blackmail those people who had intercourse with her.

The rest; I don't really know how to make sense out of it.

Beside, I wasn't even addressing the validity of the story. Just in case you have any comprehension problem.

You should ask, considering how your "reasoning" of equating drinking alcohol (putting herself in a situation "konon-nya") equates consent, was there a need for investigation? No investigation; how you know if a crime had NOT taken place in the first place?

Nothing is established here. But somehow with a twisted head, you think you passed. Happy?

Typical narcissist. Is it whatever I say must have something to do with you?
None were actually directed to you, except the last one, MAYBE. FAIL!

This post has been edited by RUI: Apr 23 2014, 12:41 PM

I'm stupid this time. Unlike you which is all the time.
Don't you get that already?

Hey you know you are ugly, you can cover your ugly face. That's what you have control of.
Now that you actively do not cover your face, you are actively putting yourself in a situation to be punched.
Once again, are you trying to absolve your responsibility not to freak people out with your ugly face?

AGAIN, i'm not jousting if she if she is responsible for her own safety. What I have pointed is this society lacks concern and empathy towards people around them. I literally have to force those statements out of the mouth of that two idiot. We need a caring society to have a more robust way to reduce crime.

If the rape was real, it's a case where the rapists staged the crime whole lot better than her friends and people around to lookout for each other.

I believe that's what you call logical deduction.
Which is better than your assumption that accepting drink as consented sex as tho drunk rape don't exist.

Did you just say that I have the very right to punch your face just because you don't cover your ugly face?

I'm still scratching my head. What so painful? I been through plenty interviews, some even reach final stage and yet didn't manage to get the job for some reason. Most probably too young. Should I blame them? No. I thank them for their time and giving me the opportunity.

If she don't feel the same. I probably thank her for not wasting my time, ANY FURTHER.

Oh c'mon...are you still sore with "I don't feel like it, I don't owe any explanation?". I'm sure you are better than that.

Woman that recognize virtue usually quickly grab any guy that possess them. Compatibility quick develops virtues. You don't see great guys stay single very long.The ones that having trouble and deliberately getting rejection are usually those with peculiar behavior and yet to refuse to accept the responsibility that it could be his problem. Ofcos, he risk facing 10000 more rejections. Oh it's convenient that to just blame women for liking badass and he is a "nice" guy.

Who did I attack?
Are you trying to prove your comprehension inability?

Some stats are just stupid. Obviously, you use them all the time.
Now, you call that projection.

That's one of the method GIVEN IF you can overpower him.

But what's more effective without the need to feed on tubs of protein, countless hours of krav maga, jiujutsu, or wing chun is to have a bunch of people around you agrees that it's WRONG/UNJUSTIFIABLY WRONG to punch you because you are ugly. This way, you have the support from mass of the public to beat the shit out of any guy who tries that.

That's a caring society. Plenty of empathy and concern towards others.

If the whole point you are trying to make is you wanna show that you can beat the sh*t out of any guy. Then go join professional competition and win yourself medal la.

Where is that?

So what you are suggesting? Shut down the prison so that security business flourish at the expense of freedom?
You conveniently forget that your civil rights belongs to you.

Fact is club is a crowded place. She is surround by people and "friends'. If crime still happens, what logical deduction can you make?
It proves a big bunch of people stood by and did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Look! Who is the one ignoring facts. Only fact you MAY put on the table is she had "some" drink. That hardly proves it's consented.

Comparatively, it's equally bad for the victim lives with a life time of trauma, the f*cker roam free looking for the next victim and justice is not served.
That's mean yours are not any bit better if you have comprehension ability.

Beside, don't you know making false report IS a crime? If the investigation proves that she lied, she is liable for prosecution and defamation. Just in case that it's consented, and with that in mind, it makes far more sense to go home with a smile la.

Now, all because of the society think that the victim had some beer (nobody happen to give shit how much is that) at certain place which leads to a "consented" sex which serve her right that render investigation irrelevant.

Wah, you asked a question. I gave you answer. You dont like the answer and also the question that comes along, you put them as irrelevant drivel.
Ohhhh...like that...

Why ask a question that you already know you won't like the answer? F*cking idiot.
I guess it's better I put you in the stupid list and ignore you.

Just admit that you misunderstood or read wrongly. I will forgive you.
Why pusing and there, NOW?

That means ONLY you assume that men are dogs and rapist. NOT THE SOCIETY.

That simply means you preserve your right NOT to lay your hands on her.
And then? Oh, the bolded.

This society lacks empathy and concern. Nobody in this society has that in the first place. Even if your wife got raped, nobody is gonna give a shit anyway.
Admittedly, that is my projection (some idiot particularly interested).

I'm saying to be resilient society, we need more than just do not put ownself in such position. But after much effort, I did manage to squeeze what's at the back of your head that YOU DO NOT CARE.

I do not want to win this argument. I give you benefit of doubt. Hopefully at the back of the other side of your head, you have the awareness that there is a need to do the right thing if you happen to be caught in such situation.

I wasn't attacking any of your logic. But i'm attacking your selfishness tho.

I did say the execution and implementation to protect civil right is somewhat hilarious at times. That's partially contributed by the majority of the public accepting certain degree of injustice if it were any less retributive.

Keep your guards high, good. Teach your son & daughter not to put themselves in harms way, better.
I know you are not expecting me to lookout for your family. But if I happen to be around, I will. I'm sure you will feel better with more of me around.

That's just selfish. Which what I have been trying to point out all the while.

I do plenty of study on my work, but I always welcome criticism and comment for my work. That's why even top surgeons, engineers or anyone shouldn't work alone. Unlike the other idiot said, learn to whoop the assailants @ss. As if he is gonna win at all.

That solely depends on what the public chooses. Your choice can make a difference.

You havent even find out how many drink she had.

Quickly, you say you are not going to do anything. That tells a lot about the stance you make when criminal are staging their crime and tells the criminal that he can be assured that there is one less people going to stop him.

Good man. Very good.

I'm talking about public. Public perception and acceptance is what shape their future.
You let the "bomoh" come out in CNN and BBC, I won't be surprise if you solicit his service to find the rapist.

Please la. You talk like having fun is a crime.
This a new level of selfishness. I need not elaborate further.

You let him walkaway with the meat. He will come back for more. Bolder and with much force. This is what obvious in our society.
Hopefully, that's not when your wife go out for groceries.

Maybe. That's by turning our society into a shitty place and hopefully it gets better in the next 2-3 generations?
Then you need not only a rifle. You need metal storm, APV and a fortress if you choose to stay.

GP racing is a crime, putting himself in harm way and violates civil right huh?
Maybe you understood it this way. Then you are right to even call me a f*cking hypocrite.

Yes, I will.


The dustbin.



Done.