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TSsebnimh84
post Apr 11 2014, 09:19 AM, updated 12y ago

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Hi everyone!

Just wanted to share my experience with all the Mums n Dad's, and the to-be's as well about soothing your LO to sleep. The usual drill would be to ensure the following;

1. Baby is fed, let it be breastfed, or formula (No water under 1 year! LO's who get used to water will be malnourished as they prefer water over milk. Typical asian parents would think that they're only thirsty, and not hungry, therefore feed their LO's water)
2. Diapers are changed and dry. Mamypoko's are best for overnight use despite their heavy price tag ($$$)
3. Not too hot, not too cold. Get a room thermometer. This'll help. Use air conditioning if too hot (But not all the time, it'll dry LO's soft soft skin). LO will not be comfortable on either extreme end.
4. LO is not sick - Get a thermometer to measure your LO, it's a worthy investment. You can get it as cheap as under RM100. My personal preference would be the type that would measure the temperature from the ear as the ones which measure the temperature on the forehead is susceptible to environmental temperature change. You can purchase this at any Pharmacy.

Now. Having said all of the above. Some of you, like myself, may have LO's who are a bit more difficult than usual.

1. Some say manja. Need to hold all the time. True sometimes smile.gif
2. Some say kena kacau hantu - up to your religion and your personal belief.
3. MOST of the time (In my experience), like we Malaysians would say - MASUK ANGIN/WIND. This means your LO's tummy is bloated (You can check by tapping 2 fingers on your LO's tummy. If it sounds empty even though fed, this means there's angin/wind in it). It's the little bubbles that is formed in the tummy which is hard to 'pop' due to their immature digestive system which causes much discomfort. Therefore LO's keep crying and want to be constantly breastfed or fusses a lot while being fed, and once put to bed, they wake up shortly after due to discomfort.

Now how do we solve masuk angin/wind? Here are a couple of pointers which might work on your LO;

1. Yu Yee Oil Cap Limau

user posted image

Can be purchased at most pharmacies and Chinese medical halls, approx RM 5.90. Apply on LO's tummy, chest, back, and feet. Make sure air conditioning/ceiling fan/table fan is turned off while applying to avoid further masuk angin/wind. A must have for all babies.

2. Gripe Water

user posted image

Despite heavy criticism from the western world, thankfully we live in Malaysia. Westerners are not really agreeable with the use of this as it contains a low percentage of alcohol. Malaysia being Malaysia means it's Halal and alcohol free. Safe for babies. 5ML for 1 month - 6 month olds, feed with a syringe. Works under 5 minutes.

3. If you've done the above 2, and your LO still has difficulty sleeping. Try this out - WHITE NOISE.

Go to http://babysleepnoise.com/download.html

Download the 1 hour tracks of all types of sounds; white noise, pink noise (Highly recommended), shower, vacuum, etc. You don't have to burn it into a CD form (Troublesome if you ask me). These days you can just place these mp3's into your smartphone or ipad/tablet.

Now how do we use this? It only works when your LO is calm. If your LO is not calm, it won't work. Make sure your LO is calm and comfy, and you start playing the white noise sounds. Make sure it's not too loud, but loud enough to drown out the surrounding sounds. This WILL LULL your LO to sleep easily, and will also maintain good sleep throughout his/her sleeping time. I did read in some articles that it may damage LO's hearing cos of the constant sound? So after LO falls asleep - better turn it off, otherwise they'd get used to it.

I hope this helps and hey just for everybody's info, this is just my point of view and just sharing.

Some references which I've studied to conclude with the above + my personal experience as a Father of my girl;

http://www.parents.com/advice/babies/feedi...drinking-water/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/05/21/...L16728820080521
http://www.babycenter.com/400_gripe-water-...lm_8226656_6.bc
http://www.mybabysleepguide.com/2012/12/sh...hite-noise.html
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post Apr 11 2014, 11:49 AM

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Thanks for sharing bro!
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post Apr 11 2014, 12:10 PM

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gud info, thumb up
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thanks for sharing. will keep this for future use. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 14 2014, 05:03 PM

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Yu Yee Oil Cap Limau quite hot. I try on my skin feels it burn my skin.

Now I use TYT oil on my son.
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post Apr 15 2014, 09:30 AM

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1. Baby is fed, let it be breastfed, or formula (No water under 1 year! LO's who get used to water will be malnourished as they prefer water over milk. Typical asian parents would think that they're only thirsty, and not hungry, therefore feed their LO's water)


Only Breastfeed babies no need water for the 1st 6 months.
While FM feed baby might need some as the milk might be heaty.

After started solid food at 6 months, babies need to drink water if not i'm sure they will get constipation.

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post Apr 15 2014, 02:07 PM

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I have read many posts about the dangers of giving your baby water.

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Because babies' kidneys aren't yet mature, giving them too much water causes their bodies to release sodium along with excess water, Anders said. Losing sodium can affect brain activity, so early symptoms of water intoxication can include irritability, drowsiness and other mental changes.
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post Apr 15 2014, 02:13 PM

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sigh, something wrong with my computer when I want to post here. anyway..i never gave my baby water before a year old, just sips here and there..she never got constipated

better don't give water lah..only if fever maybe lah
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post Apr 15 2014, 03:29 PM

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Thanks for sharing....some points are similar to my daughter (1yrs), but recently her sleeping style change, prefer to sleep under my armpit...lol.
Whenever she feel sleepy..immediate find my armpit and sleep within few minutes.
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post Apr 16 2014, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(twohens @ Apr 15 2014, 02:07 PM)
I have read many posts about the dangers of giving your baby water.

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Thank you! Finally somebody who agrees with me with modern day research and reading. I had an argument with my parents about feeding my girl water. Even them Hospitals (Govt/Priv) have a big sign on the maternity ward telling us to feed babies milk and that milk consists 80% water.

QUOTE(wai1460 @ Apr 15 2014, 03:29 PM)
Thanks for sharing....some points are similar to my daughter (1yrs), but recently her sleeping style change, prefer to sleep under my armpit...lol.
Whenever she feel sleepy..immediate find my armpit and sleep within few minutes.
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My daughter has very erratic sleeping styles. She doesn't want to be put down, which can be super tiring for both Mum and Dad. It was how I found out about white noise from Google which helps soothe her to sleep every night, as well as minimising the 'shock' factor of waking up from abrupt sounds.

BTW has anybody used Amber bracelets and Bean Sprout Husk Baby Pillow (豆芽壳婴儿枕头)? Any experiences to share?
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post Apr 16 2014, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(sebnimh84 @ Apr 16 2014, 08:17 AM)
Thank you! Finally somebody who agrees with me with modern day research and reading. I had an argument with my parents about feeding my girl water. Even them Hospitals (Govt/Priv) have a big sign on the maternity ward telling us to feed babies milk and that milk consists 80% water.
My daughter has very erratic sleeping styles. She doesn't want to be put down, which can be super tiring for both Mum and Dad. It was how I found out about white noise from Google which helps soothe her to sleep every night, as well as minimising the 'shock' factor of waking up from abrupt sounds.

BTW has anybody used Amber bracelets and Bean Sprout Husk Baby Pillow (豆芽壳婴儿枕头)? Any experiences to share?
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Yes, one of my friend are using the amber bracelets and will proven it will calm down her baby teething behaviour. Selling around RM50 in Great Eastern Mall.
I will be trying soon since will get as a gift from my friend.
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post Apr 16 2014, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(wai1460 @ Apr 16 2014, 08:37 AM)
Yes, one of my friend are using the amber bracelets and will proven it will calm down her baby teething behaviour. Selling around RM50 in Great Eastern Mall.
I will be trying soon since will get as a gift from my friend.
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My wife just bought one yesterday for RM50 (Crazy $$$.... ) at Bangsar Village. So far I don't see any difference but it's only been a day so I can't tell.
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QUOTE(jovyn @ Apr 15 2014, 09:30 AM)
Only Breastfeed babies no need water for the 1st 6 months.
While FM feed baby might need some as the milk might be heaty.
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Zaman dulu FM, you'd need to feed with some water, because zaman dulu FM was no where near the kind of thing babies actually need.

Today, FM companies and the medical industry have done a lot of research and FM is made as close to BM as possible (which is not that close, but closer than ever before lah). READ THE FM CAN. EVEN THE FM CAN SAYS DON'T GIVE WATER.
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Just becareful with oils that contain Menthol and Camphor inside, it seems that these are toxic to the baby as it is absorbed to the blood via the skin and the baby's liver is not matured enough to filter it. The scent is also overwhelming for babies.

One good way is massage, you can now learn how to massage your baby as it is available in KL. It also helps with bonding as well especially for working parents and creating a secure attachment is so so important as it shapes the behaviour of the babies when they grow up. We want a more compassionate and better future generations, right?

Check out www.babymassagewithlove.com The Certified Infant Massage Instructors does awareness talks in various locations too. Facebook: www.facebook.com/babymassagewithlove


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QUOTE(FoxSeaTiger @ Apr 14 2014, 05:03 PM)
Yu Yee Oil Cap Limau quite hot. I try on my skin feels it burn my skin.

Now I use TYT oil on my son.
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ya... i also find the yu yee oil is a bit hot...
me using minyak telon for baby...
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post Jun 5 2014, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(sebnimh84 @ Apr 11 2014, 09:19 AM)
Hi everyone!

Just wanted to share my experience with all the Mums n Dad's, and the to-be's as well about soothing your LO to sleep. The usual drill would be to ensure the following;

1. Baby is fed, let it be breastfed, or formula (No water under 1 year! LO's who get used to water will be malnourished as they prefer water over milk. Typical asian parents would think that they're only thirsty, and not hungry, therefore feed  their LO's water)
2. Diapers are changed and dry. Mamypoko's are best for overnight use despite their heavy price tag ($$$)
3. Not too hot, not too cold. Get a room thermometer. This'll help. Use air conditioning if too hot (But not all the time, it'll dry LO's soft soft skin). LO will not be comfortable on either extreme end.
4. LO is not sick - Get a thermometer to measure your LO, it's a worthy investment. You can get it as cheap as under RM100. My personal preference would be the type that would measure the temperature from the ear as the ones which measure the temperature on the forehead is susceptible to environmental temperature change. You can purchase this at any Pharmacy.

Now. Having said all of the above. Some of you, like myself, may have LO's who are a bit more difficult than usual.

1. Some say manja. Need to hold all the time. True sometimes smile.gif
2. Some say kena kacau hantu - up to your religion and your personal belief.
3. MOST of the time (In my experience), like we Malaysians would say - MASUK ANGIN/WIND. This means your LO's tummy is bloated (You can check by tapping 2 fingers on your LO's tummy. If it sounds empty even though fed, this means there's angin/wind in it). It's the little bubbles that is formed in the tummy which is hard to 'pop' due to their immature digestive system which causes much discomfort. Therefore LO's keep crying and want to be constantly breastfed or fusses a lot while being fed, and once put to bed, they wake up shortly after due to discomfort.

Now how do we solve masuk angin/wind? Here are a couple of pointers which might work on your LO;

1. Yu Yee Oil Cap Limau

user posted image

Can be purchased at most pharmacies and Chinese medical halls, approx RM 5.90. Apply on LO's tummy, chest, back, and feet. Make sure air conditioning/ceiling fan/table fan is turned off while applying to avoid further masuk angin/wind. A must have for all babies.

2. Gripe Water

user posted image

Despite heavy criticism from the western world, thankfully we live in Malaysia. Westerners are not really agreeable with the use of this as it contains a low percentage of alcohol. Malaysia being Malaysia means it's Halal and alcohol free. Safe for babies. 5ML for 1 month - 6 month olds, feed with a syringe. Works under 5 minutes.

3. If you've done the above 2, and your LO still has difficulty sleeping. Try this out - WHITE NOISE.

Go to http://babysleepnoise.com/download.html

Download the 1 hour tracks of all types of sounds; white noise, pink noise (Highly recommended), shower, vacuum, etc. You don't have to burn it into a CD form (Troublesome if you ask me). These days you can just place these mp3's into your smartphone or ipad/tablet.

Now how do we use this? It only works when your LO is calm. If your LO is not calm, it won't work. Make sure your LO is calm and comfy, and you start playing the white noise sounds. Make sure it's not too loud, but loud enough to drown out the surrounding sounds. This WILL LULL your LO to sleep easily, and will also maintain good sleep throughout his/her sleeping time. I did read in some articles that it may damage LO's hearing cos of the constant sound? So after LO falls asleep - better turn it off, otherwise they'd get used to it.

I hope this helps and hey just for everybody's info, this is just my point of view and just sharing.

Some references which I've studied to conclude with the above + my personal experience as a Father of my girl;

http://www.parents.com/advice/babies/feedi...drinking-water/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/05/21/...L16728820080521
http://www.babycenter.com/400_gripe-water-...lm_8226656_6.bc
http://www.mybabysleepguide.com/2012/12/sh...hite-noise.html
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Thank you very much for the sharing. Now if only I can get my 10 week old baby to read your insights rclxub.gif
BTW, trying to NOT FEED water is a real uphill battle with the loving old folks who keep saying "we fed you water maaa....see u so round & healthy now"!
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What is minyak telon? Where can I get it? Brand?

Can I use this oils on newborn?
TSsebnimh84
post Jun 5 2014, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(slyren00 @ Jun 5 2014, 02:00 AM)
Thank you very much for the sharing. Now if only I can get my 10 week old baby to read your insights  rclxub.gif
BTW, trying to NOT FEED water is a real uphill battle with the loving old folks who keep saying "we fed you water maaa....see u so round & healthy now"!
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No problems, sometimes not easy when elderly are not there to guide you - this is how I came about doing a lot of R&D and I'd thought of sharing it out to those who are here to gain knowledge and to share info.

YES - I totally agree with you. NOT TO FEED water with parents is a real uphill battle. My Dad told gave me an example, "You can't drink coffee everyday can you? You have to drink some water ma! Same applies for baby". He's old school that way. Many modern studies show that breastfed/formula fed babies need not drink water til 1 year old and above as milk itself is 70% water!

QUOTE(wantedgal @ Jun 5 2014, 07:21 AM)
What is minyak telon? Where can I get it? Brand?

Can I use this oils on newborn?
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Can! But don't apply too much, otherwise LO will feel very warm. Try hitting the local pharmacy, they'll have a choice of brands
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