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TSKyrios30
post Apr 10 2014, 08:11 PM, updated 10y ago

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~HI, i'm new to pc building and i want to make my own gaming pc build,i don't know the right equipment in making them. so i create this post and would like to ask everyone opinion on which equipment is best in making a gaming pc for 2014 at the price budget RM1500,

~I've watch a ton of review on which is the best but still get confuse rclxub.gif .

~In RM1500 gaming pc budget, INCLUDE SCREEN TOO. keyboards and mouse NO NEED, *please icon_question.gif

~please include price of all the equipment.
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post Apr 11 2014, 11:46 AM

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post Apr 11 2014, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Kyrios30 @ Apr 10 2014, 08:11 PM)
~HI, i'm new to pc building and i want to make my own gaming pc build,i don't know the right equipment in making them. so i create this post and would like to ask everyone opinion on which equipment is best in making a gaming pc for 2014 at the price budget RM1500,

~I've watch a ton of review on which is the best but still get confuse  rclxub.gif .

~In RM1500 gaming pc budget, INCLUDE SCREEN TOO. keyboards and mouse NO NEED, *please icon_question.gif

~please include price of all the equipment.
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What games? But I think you can get a gaming machine, but don't expect to run games at maximum settings.
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post Apr 11 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Apr 11 2014, 01:50 PM)
What games?  But I think you can get a gaming machine, but don't expect to run games at maximum settings.
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Well.. kinda like dota2, cs:go, cod, lol, wow, nfs, pes

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post Apr 11 2014, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Kyrios30 @ Apr 10 2014, 08:11 PM)
~HI, i'm new to pc building and i want to make my own gaming pc build,i don't know the right equipment in making them. so i create this post and would like to ask everyone opinion on which equipment is best in making a gaming pc for 2014 at the price budget RM1500,

~I've watch a ton of review on which is the best but still get confuse  rclxub.gif .

~In RM1500 gaming pc budget, INCLUDE SCREEN TOO. keyboards and mouse NO NEED, *please icon_question.gif

~please include price of all the equipment.
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Processor AMD A8 5600K RM349.00 idealtech
Mobo ASROCK FM2A55M-HD+ RM189.00 idealtech
HDD 3.5" Western Digital 1TB SATA3 Green Caviar RM199.00 idealtech
RAM DDR3 1600 4GB RM139.00 idealtech
PSU+Casing - roughly RM 200.

Total = 349+189+199+139+200 = RM 1076. you have RM424 left to shop for your monitor
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post Apr 11 2014, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(elairz @ Apr 11 2014, 05:04 PM)
Processor  AMD A8 5600K  RM349.00 idealtech
Mobo        ASROCK FM2A55M-HD+ RM189.00 idealtech
HDD          3.5" Western Digital 1TB SATA3 Green Caviar RM199.00 idealtech
RAM          DDR3 1600 4GB RM139.00 idealtech
PSU+Casing - roughly RM 200.

Total = 349+189+199+139+200 = RM 1076. you have RM424 left to shop for your monitor
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no gpu? or just use intergrated ( a.k.a. useless graphic ) graphic?

all i know no gpu =/= gaming desktop
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post Apr 11 2014, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(darkoneboy @ Apr 11 2014, 06:12 PM)
no gpu? or just use intergrated ( a.k.a. useless graphic ) graphic?

all i know no gpu =/= gaming desktop
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Don't underestimate the integrated graphics of the AMD APU. They are much stronger than what you think... icon_idea.gif
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post Apr 11 2014, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(elairz @ Apr 11 2014, 05:04 PM)
Processor  AMD A8 5600K  RM349.00 idealtech
Mobo        ASROCK FM2A55M-HD+ RM189.00 idealtech
HDD          3.5" Western Digital 1TB SATA3 Green Caviar RM199.00 idealtech
RAM          DDR3 1600 4GB RM139.00 idealtech
PSU+Casing - roughly RM 200.

Total = 349+189+199+139+200 = RM 1076. you have RM424 left to shop for your monitor
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Grab dual channel/faster RAMs as well. APUs benefit greatly from faster RAMs. icon_idea.gif
Swap the drive to a Caviar Blue... Caviar Green is a very slow drive... tongue.gif
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post Apr 11 2014, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(elairz @ Apr 11 2014, 06:04 PM)
Processor  AMD A8 5600K  RM349.00 idealtech
Mobo        ASROCK FM2A55M-HD+ RM189.00 idealtech
HDD          3.5" Western Digital 1TB SATA3 Green Caviar RM199.00 idealtech
RAM          DDR3 1600 4GB RM139.00 idealtech
PSU+Casing - roughly RM 200.

Total = 349+189+199+139+200 = RM 1076. you have RM424 left to shop for your monitor
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Thanks, for ur suggestion.
Btw, if i add sapphire r7 250 will it be awesome or overload?
And instead of green cavier WD, i'd go with blue cavier. most review pick blue cavier.

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post Apr 11 2014, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Apr 11 2014, 07:44 PM)
Grab dual channel/faster RAMs as well.  APUs benefit greatly from faster RAMs. icon_idea.gif
Swap the drive to a Caviar Blue... Caviar Green is a very slow drive... tongue.gif
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What is dual chanel?
Is it the one to put up ram slot? hmm.gif
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post Apr 11 2014, 09:22 PM

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I'd rather go this

Proc - Intel Pentium G3220 RM 179
Mobo - Asrock H81M-DGS RM 179
GPU - Palit GTX 750 StormX Dual OC RM 439
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w RM 150
HDD - 1TB WD Blue RM 189
RAM - 4GB DDR3 Value RAM RM 129
Casing - GZ Series RM 69
Monitor - AOC E1660SW RM 209

RM 1,543. Only RM 43 more but this one got more power trust me. Prices from Viewnet cept GPU from Lingloong.

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post Apr 11 2014, 09:31 PM

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Here's my build,it's more like RM1600 but well worth it IMO with a nice screen and decent GPU

Intel Pentium G2030 RM 174
Asrock H81M-DGS RM 179
4GB DDR3 RAM RM129
Antec VP 450W RM129
WD Blue 1TB RM189
Sapphire R7 250X RM380~
Benq VW2245Z 21.5" VA panel RM379
CM Elite 344 RM105
RM1664

You should be able to get these parts at most shops in LYP.

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post Apr 11 2014, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(Kyrios30 @ Apr 11 2014, 08:56 PM)
Thanks, for ur suggestion.
Btw, if i add sapphire r7 250 will it be awesome or overload?
And instead of green cavier WD, i'd go with blue cavier. most review pick blue cavier.
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AMD APU already have an integrated GPU inside it. so if you want a discrete GPU you should take another Cpu instead.

or you could wait for new AMD cpu. AM1. very cheap cpu and motherboard. probably would be available next month.
otherwise intel cpu g2030 or g3020 + mobo is around the same price.

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how about you buy a 2nd hand monitor? you could save around rm200 and use it to buy discrete gpu.



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post Apr 11 2014, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(elairz @ Apr 11 2014, 11:05 PM)
AMD APU already have an integrated GPU inside it. so if you want a discrete GPU you should take another Cpu instead.

or you could wait for new AMD cpu. AM1. very cheap cpu and motherboard. probably would be available next month.
otherwise intel cpu g2030 or g3020 + mobo is around the same price.

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how about you buy a 2nd hand monitor? you could save around rm200 and use it to buy discrete gpu.
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Soooo...
If i go with AMD spec:
Proc: amd a8 5600k
MoBo: ?????? Can slot up 4 ram
Ram: 4gb ddr3 1600
Hdd: WD blue 1tb
Psu: fsp hexa 500w

Meaning that i don't even have to buy graphic card for this spec?

This post has been edited by Kyrios30: Apr 11 2014, 11:32 PM
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post Apr 11 2014, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(Kyrios30 @ Apr 11 2014, 11:25 PM)
Soooo...
If i go with AMD spec:
Proc:  amd a8 5600k
MoBo: ?????? Can slot up 4 ram
Ram: 4gb ddr3 1600
Hdd: WD blue 1tb
Psu: fsp hexa 500w

Meaning that i don't even have to buy graphic card for this spec?
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yes. no need to buy gpu. of course you can add gpu if you have more money later.
see the chart below. the APU already good enough to play most mainstream game. though at med setting and 720p.

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also racerx and zgames suggestion above would do well if you want a discrete gpu.
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post Apr 12 2014, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(Kyrios30 @ Apr 11 2014, 11:25 PM)
Soooo...
If i go with AMD spec:
Proc:  amd a8 5600k
MoBo: ?????? Can slot up 4 ram
Ram: 4gb ddr3 1600
Psu: fsp hexa 500w

Meaning that i don't even have to buy graphic card for this spec?
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If you want cheap PC for gaming. You can play most games in lowered resolution and settings for max performance.

For example, AMD APUs are generally not recommended for full HD (1080p) gaming. However, they can achieve 60fps on most games with a much lowered resolution like 720p.
In this case, most of the games you listed like Dota2, LOL, WOW n CS:GO are not really graphic intensive. However, you must think of your upgrade options in the future so you have to try to at least build a PC to last 3-5 years, with some options to upgrade without replacing the whole lot.
Your monitor is one of the big items, buying a cheap 19.5" monitor or a 2nd hand monitor can really cut your costs down. Future, you can buy another bigger monitor and use you 19.5" as a 2nd monitor to game like a PC master race should.

CPU and MOBO is also a big cost to your setup. This is one of the things you can future proof, as these 2 can normally last more than 5 years if it is not the cheapest one. Games these days are also less CPU intensive and more GPU intensive. Either way, these 2 should complement your future upgrades.
Casing is a cost you should not spend much on with a limited budget, I would suggest you buy a casing that comes bundled with a 500W PSU to save cost. You aren't exactly building a powerhouse gaming machine, so these items can be bundled until future upgrade can replace them.
RAM can be upgraded or added later, so just get 1 piece of RAM is sufficient. Preferably a 4GB one, as these days it's considered the minimum.
Graphic cards is where the main objective of your GAMING machine is. You want to play games? Then GPU should be your main bulk of your budget.
HDD should just get the minimum you need, though the price diff between a 500GB and a 1TB these days is very small.

Here is my 720p gaming rig at $1602;(prices from Viewnet, availability not confirmed)

GPU for RM369 the Gigabyte 7770 OC because it can play Metro:Last Light at 720p with lowered settings at 60FPS and BF4 at 1080 with low settings at 60FPS. That is 1 awesome card for it's price.

CPU for RM349 the Intel i3 4130 (1150) because it is more than enough for gaming and will last you last least 3 years of personal computing or more.

MOBO for RM179 the Asrock H81M-DGS simply because it is the cheapest socket 1150 board and also comes with 2x SATA 3 and 2x USB 3 ports.

RAM for RM119 4GB Kingston RAM

HDD for RM189 1TB WD

Case for RM69 ATX casing (cap ayam) Cheap casing for a cheap build. It's what inside that counts.

PSU for RM49 500W (cap ayam) Cheapest 500W juice. Although I always recommend better PSUs with better brands, most of these cap ayam do the job well enough as long as you don't tax it so much. Upgrade this when you plan to upgrade your rig.

Monitor for RM279 AOC E2050SW (max res 1600x900) because its cheap but it's not 1080p monitor that you don't need. You game with lower resolution simply because your rig is designed for it. Once you plan to game on higher resolution in the future with better graphic card, upgrade to a new monitor and use this as your secondary.

Others peripherals like DVD drive, power extension cord, cheap ass speakers etc. will cost about RM100+ if you need it.

This post has been edited by Skidd Chung: Apr 12 2014, 12:33 AM
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post Apr 12 2014, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(elairz @ Apr 12 2014, 12:55 AM)
yes. no need to buy gpu. of course you can add gpu if you have more money later.
see the chart below. the APU already good enough to play most mainstream game. though at med setting and 720p.

user posted image
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also racerx and zgames suggestion above would do well if you want a discrete gpu.
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Is there any difference if i use amd a8 6600k ? Or the only difference between 5600k and 6600k are the price and date of release?
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post Apr 12 2014, 02:39 AM

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Hmm lad, imo better get a system that has a discrete gpu as it can last longer. It's not that I don't like the APU but due to most games this year are like Graphic demanding more. A 750 OC can set you back for atleast 3-4 years till you need a whole new upgrade with a better card and such. So....it depends on ya lad. nod.gif
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post Apr 12 2014, 04:13 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Apr 11 2014, 06:44 PM)
Grab dual channel/faster RAMs as well.  APUs benefit greatly from faster RAMs. icon_idea.gif
Swap the drive to a Caviar Blue... Caviar Green is a very slow drive... tongue.gif
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is it advisable torun dual channel 2 x 2GB or 2 x 4GB? if not overkill for 8GB, i'd go for it

i'm looking for home PC with RM2,000 (without monitor) that can play movies at 1080p with large harddisc capacity and high reliability.

1) any overclocking setup available? intel or AMD A8?
2) need a very good PSU to get ready for overclocking, please advise
3) built-in graphics is fine but on-board GPU & mobo has to be able to ready for mid-range GPU next 6 months with HDMI & VGA output a must
4) willing to spend on a reliable 1TB HDD, don't need the speed

please help
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post Apr 12 2014, 05:14 AM

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QUOTE(Kyrios30 @ Apr 12 2014, 12:35 AM)
Is there any difference if i use amd a8 6600k ? Or the only difference between 5600k and 6600k are the price and date of release?
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6600k is better. but the price is higher as well.
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QUOTE(sexualpower @ Apr 12 2014, 04:13 AM)
is it advisable torun dual channel 2 x 2GB or 2 x 4GB? if not overkill for 8GB, i'd go for it

i'm looking for home PC with RM2,000 (without monitor) that can play movies at 1080p with large harddisc capacity and high reliability.

1) any overclocking setup available? intel or AMD A8?
2) need a very good PSU to get ready for overclocking, please advise
3) built-in graphics is fine but on-board GPU & mobo has to be able to ready for mid-range GPU next 6 months with HDMI & VGA output a must
4) willing to spend on a reliable 1TB HDD, don't need the speed

please help
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1. Why would you want to overclock your machine? hmm.gif Does your programs demand a lot of CPU power?

2. Any quality 500-550W would suffice. The Seasonic M12II 520W for RM279 would be my choice. icon_idea.gif

3. Since you are going with discrete card in the near future... the A8 may not be suitable... it's weak single-threaded performance aren't ideal for that. sweat.gif
The FX-4300/6300 would fare much better, however. tongue.gif

4. Reliability? Enterprise drives maybe? Still they are vulnerable to hard drive failures... Regular data backup would minimize such issues.

Dual channel is only applicable if you are having an APU setup... For most setups (including AMD FX builds), single channel RAM would run just fine. icon_idea.gif
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post Apr 12 2014, 10:11 AM

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Honestly speaking. If you build such low power consumption system you don't need to even get the quality PSU. Those cap ayam one that comes with casing will even suffice. And both the cap ayam casing and the PSU bundled together for like around RM80.

I had been using those cap ayam one for years and no problem, and it's powering a more power hungry system than the ones listed:

1) AMD Athlon II X4 635 (95W)
2) HD5670 (61W)
3) Mobo, HDD, Rams (~30-50W)

Not even any stability or system failures yet.
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post Apr 12 2014, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Apr 12 2014, 08:25 AM)
1. Why would you want to overclock your machine?  hmm.gif  Does your programs demand a lot of CPU power?

2. Any quality 500-550W would suffice.  The Seasonic M12II 520W for RM279 would be my choice. icon_idea.gif

3. Since you are going with discrete card in the near future... the A8 may not be suitable... it's weak single-threaded performance aren't ideal for that. sweat.gif
The FX-4300/6300 would fare much better, however. tongue.gif

4. Reliability?  Enterprise drives maybe?  Still they are vulnerable to hard drive failures...   Regular data backup would minimize such issues.

Dual channel is only applicable if you are having an APU setup... For most setups (including AMD FX builds), single channel RAM would run just fine.  icon_idea.gif
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thanks! helps a lot after Googling on your comments on dual channel

overclocking is to prepare the machine for longer life / usage in the future

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post Apr 12 2014, 03:37 PM

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my local vendors only offer:

Intel processors; i3, i5 (I'm going i3)
MSI motherboards; H61-P31, H61-P32,
B75-G43, B85-G43

any sifus, can advise me on an MSI mobo? tqtq
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QUOTE(sexualpower @ Apr 12 2014, 03:37 PM)
my local vendors only offer:

Intel processors; i3, i5 (I'm going i3)
MSI motherboards; H61-P31, H61-P32,
                                    B75-G43, B85-G43

any sifus, can advise me on an MSI mobo? tqtq
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Uhmmm there are actually 2 versions of the i3 and i5 that you are talking about.

The socket 1155 fits into H61 and B75 and 1150 fits into B85.

Make sure you get the correct one, the shop should know if they know what they are selling.
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Apr 13 2014, 12:52 AM)
Uhmmm there are actually 2 versions of the i3 and i5 that you are talking about.

The socket 1155 fits into H61 and B75 and 1150 fits into B85.

Make sure you get the correct one, the shop should know if they know what they are selling.
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thanks!
lack of choice in my hometown, aihhhh sweat.gif

 

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