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zDarkForceSz
post Aug 19 2014, 07:23 PM

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Hi guys/sifus/pros,
I know no spoon feed and etc.
But just a favor can someone please enlighten me about "Unit Trust"?

i) Based on my understanding it is about we the traders invest under a "fund manager"(eg. Maybank, RHB & etc) under their provided skim. (Use investor fund to trade)

ii) There is 3 types of fund? Fixed Income Funds, Balanced Funds & Equity Funds. Other than risk difference, "Fixed Income Funds" give a low fixed return every month compare to Equity Funds might give a bigger return in a longer run?

iii) As I'm still a student with not much savings in hand, I found out there is a "Regular Savings Plan", do you guys recommend this?

Thank you if you willing to answer my question.
Sorry for my noob-ness.

Regards,
Adrian.
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post Aug 19 2014, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Aug 19 2014, 07:36 PM)
Dia cakap Regular Savings Plan...

As in, every month contribute to the unit trust... NOT that Private Retirement Scheme
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Thanks for the clarification. smile.gif

QUOTE(woonsc @ Aug 19 2014, 07:45 PM)
sorry haha thanks for pointing out my mistakes.. I ternampak salah!
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No problem. Just a small case.

Adrian.
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post Aug 20 2014, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Aug 19 2014, 11:21 PM)
if u got extra Rm100 every month for the RSP then of coz, why not  smile.gif
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Noted, thanks. smile.gif

QUOTE(adele123 @ Aug 20 2014, 09:03 AM)
i) scheme not skim. i guess in a simplified way, what you describe there ain't wrong.

ii) i think the fund managers call it fund category (type, category means slightly different apparently). Fixed Income Funds does not give fixed return every month. Returns are supposedly less volatile. Investors expect more return from equity funds than bond funds.

iii) some fund house (i know one of them is CIMB, not sure if CIMB is the only one) allows initial investment as low as RM500. so you can do initial lump sum but of course doing it the RSP way will bring you down the 'dollar-cost averaging' route. just pointing out your options.
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Thanks for clearing my doubt on i & ii.
About iii I did some research on fundsupermart page, there's quite a number of available fund to choose from Available List (EXCEPT: OSK-UOB Institutional Islamic Money Market Fund, CIMB-Principal Asset Management Berhad, MIDF Amanah Asset Management Berhad, and Hwang Investment Management Berhad)
Yea the 'Dollar-cost averaging' route. If correct fund, no problem. Wrong fund, big problem.
Lucky Malaysia don't practice US's FIFO rules.

QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 20 2014, 09:39 AM)
Fixed Income is not really "fixed", it's just a name for fund that invests in bonds, money market and other forms of deposits.
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Thanks Pink Spider. Now I understand these 'terms'.

Just registered an account on fundsupermart. Thanks for helping out guys.

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post Aug 20 2014, 11:00 PM

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i) Am doing research on ESI Equity Income Fund.
Any comment/opinion on this fund?

ii) Look like quite a number of members here parking in ESISCF. drool.gif
However is like I'm late for the party which looks like already begun.

-Adrian.
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post Aug 20 2014, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 20 2014, 11:01 PM)
ESIEIF doesn't track KLCI well.

I have been monitoring this fund for few weeks and its NAV is swinging within the range of 0.88XX
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Thanks for that great info!
Gotta think twice before I invest...
Doing some research to park at which fund.
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post Aug 21 2014, 11:55 AM

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7.67 billion shares exchanged Sumatec flying.
Some fund went south after high ground.

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post Aug 21 2014, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Aug 21 2014, 01:43 PM)
My portfolio is positive this month, thanks to last week's (week 33) SUPERIOR performance! But this week is TERRIBLE! Seeing red when the market was green -.-'
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Good good when is green. thumbup.gif
I still dunno where to park... rclxub.gif

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post Aug 26 2014, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Aug 25 2014, 10:22 PM)
last week till now...KGF and ESSCF and other local equity..have been dropping like flies.. doh.gif
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The slam continues...
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post Aug 26 2014, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Aug 26 2014, 12:44 PM)
some aldy switch... brows.gif  dont 100% follow me..

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Don't worry.
In this dog eat dog market, take own responsibility smile.gif
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post Aug 26 2014, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Aug 26 2014, 06:33 PM)
So that means RSP no interest? What's he use I putting my money in the RSP is got no interest like normal banks and no return rates? Might as well put either equity or balanced fund (tough choice hmm.gif choosing between this two) and manually put let's say about rm500 every month manually for example..I can do that right put cash every month into a fund or different funds every month MANUALLY without the rsp?
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Most of the fund required a minimum of RM1,000 for first investment.
Then subsequently you can enter with RM100 for the fund.

RSP is about you choose the amount you desire monthly to enter a particular fund.
Lets say I want to buy "ABCD fund", but I don't have much money for initial investment.
This RSP help you manage your money by regularly enter RM100/RM200/RM300 per month.
So every month I bought more units with RM100/RM200/RM300 on a particular fund.

It works the normal way, but you're averaging your entry point.

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post Aug 26 2014, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Aug 26 2014, 10:20 PM)
Ohh..good explanation..let's say if u were in my shoes.. And let's say every month u have rm300 to invest and some months u might not have..would u do the RSP method or just do manually, ie banking whenever u have the money?

Btw u recommend equity or balanced? Got any experience with the funds? Thanks
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What I want to remind you UT doesn't always make money, it may lose money too.
And is a long term investment.

You will see this under the fund page.
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1. If you got the money for the First Investment then, you just do it manually.
2. If you don't have the money for First Investment then RSP may be your option.

Equity / Balance
Depends on your risk tolerance.
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QUOTE(woonsc @ Aug 26 2014, 10:43 PM)
haha i was thinking RSP all the funds i want, but i am lack of capital.
SO i RSP each rm100 for a month.. then after that i cancel??
then i will top up if i have extra cash..
Can??  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Dunno leh. Maybe cannot.
You go and read the FAQ, and find the "sink hole" lo.
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post Aug 27 2014, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 27 2014, 11:06 AM)
Yes. CMF is one of the bestest thing ever. I basically dump all my excess cash in that fund. rclxms.gif
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Bro, you mean RHB-OSK CASH MANAGEMENT FUND 2?
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post Aug 27 2014, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Aug 27 2014, 11:21 AM)
if you have sudden need of money, how fast does the fund arrive at your bank account?
I havnt withdraw any yet atm..
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 27 2014, 11:23 AM)
Of course I maintain A BIT cash in my bank accounts lar... doh.gif

If REALLY BIG emergency, what to do, cash advance from credit card lor...cards are there for a purpose. But so far (touch wood) I've never done this lar.
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haha. touch wood with that emergency.
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post Aug 27 2014, 05:56 PM

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28 Aug tomorrow.
Are you ready? brows.gif

Looking at CMF doh.gif
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post Aug 27 2014, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 27 2014, 07:58 PM)
Why u doh.gif ? blink.gif
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Just receiving a bad news.
My Rentor want sell his house.
Next owner sure want to increase my monthly rent... doh.gif
What a sh!t moment...

Dunno want enter CMF or wait the new Owner decide my monthly rent first...

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