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post Aug 26 2014, 12:22 PM

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hi guys..i have been investing in public mutual fund for about 5 years now..

i want to invest more, but the 5.5% they sapu is kinda unacceptable..

thats why im considering fsm..

1. how reliable it is? i scared like they bankrupt or something like that.

2. what is the minimum amount to invest?

3. which fund to invest..any suggestion??

thank you very much
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post Aug 26 2014, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 26 2014, 12:55 PM)
GAF is a global BALANCED fund, u sure u want exposure to bonds? If yes, go ahead.
1. FSM is (previously) under OSK, now under RHB. Licensed/accredited by Securities Commission and Federation of Investment Managers Malaysia.
2. Min is different for different funds...go see the fact sheet/prospectus of the funds that u are interested in and FSM website.
3. Talk the FSM Client Investment Specialist...it's a free service. Go under "Contact Us"
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Ok smile.gif already emailed them..
I ttold them I want to add cash every month, manually of automatically deduct also can..then they tell me to go into RSP? What's the return rate for the RSP? Around how Much?

They said RSP will automatically deduct..so the other funds I can't add like for every monthly even if manually?

Also I saw the lost of funds.. The balanced fund seems right is the agreesive..equity funds seems risky although the profits forequity is quite good..I'll have a tough time choosing between equity or balanced..
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post Aug 26 2014, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 26 2014, 06:29 PM)
RSP has no return. It's called regular saving plan; monthly contribution to the nominated fund at as low as RM 100.

Unless you park your money into CMF (cash management fund) and perform RSP from CMF to the nominated fund.
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So that means RSP no interest? What's he use I putting my money in the RSP is got no interest like normal banks and no return rates? Might as well put either equity or balanced fund (tough choice hmm.gif choosing between this two) and manually put let's say about rm500 every month manually for example..I can do that right put cash every month into a fund or different funds every month MANUALLY without the rsp?
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post Aug 26 2014, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 26 2014, 06:37 PM)
The main reason of RSP is to achieve DCA - regular top up regardless the timing of the market.

As I said earlier, RSP in FSM can be executed in 2 manners:

1. CMF (earn interest via the yield difference) like normal FD
2. Nominated saving account from participating banks

Please read through the details in the link I provided earlier.

RSP is a disciplinary approach to achieve DCA and as human being, we tend to forget under manual mode.
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OK thanks bro..will read thoroughly later and if have any doubts, I'll ask here
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post Aug 26 2014, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Aug 26 2014, 10:04 PM)
Most of the fund required a minimum of RM1,000 for first investment.
Then subsequently you can enter with RM100 for the fund.

RSP is about you choose the amount you desire monthly to enter a particular fund.
Lets say I want to buy "ABCD fund", but I don't have much money for initial investment.
This RSP help you manage your money by regularly enter RM100/RM200/RM300 per month.
So every month I bought more units with RM100/RM200/RM300 on a particular fund.

It works the normal way, but you're averaging your entry point.
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Ohh..good explanation..let's say if u were in my shoes.. And let's say every month u have rm300 to invest and some months u might not have..would u do the RSP method or just do manually, ie banking whenever u have the money?

Btw u recommend equity or balanced? Got any experience with the funds? Thanks
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post Aug 26 2014, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Aug 26 2014, 10:58 PM)
What I want to remind you UT doesn't always make money, it may lose money too.
And is a long term investment.

You will see this under the fund page.
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1. If you got the money for the First Investment then, you just do it manually.
2. If you don't have the money for First Investment then RSP may be your option.

Equity / Balance
Depends on your risk tolerance.
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Dunno leh. Maybe cannot.
You go and read the FAQ, and find the "sink hole" lo.
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What is UT?
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post Aug 26 2014, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Aug 26 2014, 11:09 PM)
Unit Trust  cool2.gif
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Is unit trust same with equity and balanced fund? Sorry I noob
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post Aug 26 2014, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Aug 26 2014, 11:29 PM)
haha  blush.gif
you really need some reading to do..

http://www.myunittrust.info/index.php/abou...t-is-unit-trust

nod.gif  hope to answered your question..
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Ok smile.gif
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post Aug 26 2014, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(kabal82 @ Aug 26 2014, 11:35 PM)
5 years investment in PM & u learn nothing at all? rclxub.gif

Dont tell me that u only blindly invest in PM? laugh.gif

RSP (Regular Saving Plan) for FSM is equivalent to DDI (Direct Debit Instruction) or SI (Standing Instruction) for PM...
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That time I was 15..bank officer which is my family friend handle for me.

Now FSM I'm handling it..clearly I got some reading to do about FSM smile.gif
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post Aug 26 2014, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(kabal82 @ Aug 26 2014, 11:35 PM)
5 years investment in PM & u learn nothing at all? rclxub.gif

Dont tell me that u only blindly invest in PM? laugh.gif

RSP (Regular Saving Plan) for FSM is equivalent to DDI (Direct Debit Instruction) or SI (Standing Instruction) for PM...

Btw, how's ur PM investment performed? How do u really get into investment in the 1st place?
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For your edited question..I already reply above smile.gif
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post Aug 26 2014, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(kabal82 @ Aug 26 2014, 11:39 PM)
Oooohhh... that's explain a lot then... mine in PM is almost 4 years old
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Actually I'm just leaving my moneyin pm..plan to add some saving money into a new fund in pm..but the 5.5% is un acceptable..

That's why I'm considering FSM..I think I'm going to do it manually and not follow RSP coz some no this I might not have enough allowance

Btw..I also Need to choose between equity and balanced fund..hmm tough choice considering the risks of equity fund
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post Aug 27 2014, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 27 2014, 09:35 AM)
I remember there's a rule stating that underaged cannot invest in funds blink.gif
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Dafuq man? 20 years old still cannot invest? Minimum 21??
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post Aug 27 2014, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 27 2014, 10:00 AM)
u said u WERE 15 then...see your previous post

@FSM:
U have to tick the above otherwise FSM won't let u buy anything
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Lol bro haha..15 was 5 years ago when I invest in pm..now 20 tongue.gif
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post Aug 27 2014, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 27 2014, 10:14 AM)
Your banker could get into trouble for allowing you to invest...unless u invest using your ma/pa's name
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Exactly as bolded

Anyways..you got any recommendation on specific equity or balanced fund to take BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE? I plan to take up to 5 funds with RSP rm200 in each fund then cancel RSP when 2nd month as the guy told above and then add manually starting from 2nd month. Is it possible like that?

I'm asking your experience because I not sure which fund to choose..just asking ur opinion..thanks

woonsc u too bro, and opinion on which equity fund to choose? And my RSP method above can work? Thanks bro

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post Aug 27 2014, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Aug 27 2014, 10:34 AM)
Haha I gonna use that too! For my portolio~  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
Well,  whistling.gif  whistling.gif 
since your still 20+ Equities is better for you, but you need to NOT sell when the whole market bad in shape..
Obediently DCA every month..
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What's dca? Sorry not familiar with these terms/abbreviation

QUOTE(polkiuj @ Aug 27 2014, 10:36 AM)
@Arvinaaaaa you can actually leave the RSP there to pull from your CMF. If there is not enough funds, it will not create the contract.

The main reason u RSP so u can lock in the 1% sales charge for 6 months
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So what u telling me is to put RSP rm200 for 5 funds.. Then just leave it? So if I don't have enough fund for the RSP at the 2nd month it will just cancel the contract automatically?

BTW RSP= 1% sales charge , normal=2% sales charge right?
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post Aug 27 2014, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 27 2014, 10:43 AM)
RSP is only for convenience...sales charge is the same as normal purchase transaction.

DCA = Dollar Cost Average, just another name for RSP
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QUOTE(woonsc @ Aug 27 2014, 10:43 AM)
Dollar Cost Average biggrin.gif
to reduce market volatility..

RSP 1%??  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
don't think so.. it's the normal SC of 2%, unless you have Silver Gold or Platinum Status..
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Ok..so I think what I going to do is choose 5 funds..RSP rm200 into those funds for the first month.
Then cancel RSP for the 2nd month, and handle it manually from there on

How? Or got any better recommendations?
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post Aug 27 2014, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Aug 27 2014, 11:00 AM)
"Q:  What are the New Account Benefits?

A:  With effect from 02/02/2012, Fundsupermart.com Malaysia will be providing exclusive benefits to new account holders.

These benefits include:

1) Sales charge capped at a maximum of 1% (normal FSM sales charge is 2%).

2) Regular Savings Plan (RSP) sales charge capped at 1% for first 6 monthly deductions.

These benefits are applicable to UNLIMITED purchases of ANY unit trust, up to a period of 30 calendar days upon account activation. However, these benefits do not apply for funds listed under Hwang Investment Management Berhad."

"Q:  What if there is a monthly deduction failure on my RSP?

A:  In the case where you do not have sufficient bank/Cash Management Fund balance for the monthly RSP deduction, and the RSP transaction fails, this failed transaction will still count as a monthly deduction and you are deemed to have enjoyed the New Account Benefits."

"Q:  Do I need to have an initial investment before starting a RSP? What is RSP Specialist?

A:  You can start your RSP from as low as RM100 per month for most of the funds without having to fulfill the minimum initial investment amount. EXCEPT for OSK-UOB Institutional Islamic Money Market Fund as well as funds from CIMB-Principal Asset Management Berhad, MIDF Amanah Asset Management Berhad and Hwang Investment Management Berhad where you are required to invest the minimum initial investment amount first before starting the RSP.

RSP Special List is a list of funds which enables you to start an RSP at the minimum RSP amount without required a minimum initial purchase.

Please click here to view the funds."

@woonsc if it's past your first month then it's too late.

@arvinaaaaa
1. Choose 5 funds and start RM 200 RSP via CMF
2. Manually buy CMF for your first 1k and on the 15th, it will auto transfer into your selected funds
3. Manually buy CMF every month. If you have enough balance then it will auto transfer into your selected funds on the 15th. I think it will do partial transfers if there is not sufficient balance and if no balance then no transfer.
4. Enjoy ur first 6 months of 1% sales charge
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Ok..registering now
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post Aug 27 2014, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Aug 27 2014, 10:48 AM)
I jut joined a month ago..
Just lost my 1 month lump sum.. sooooo..
do i still get that RSP 6 month 1%??
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What u mean u lost 1 month lump sum?
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post Aug 27 2014, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 27 2014, 01:01 PM)
Which 5? brows.gif
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Bro..what happens if i uncheck the update my bank account number and dont put any bank account?




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post Aug 27 2014, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Aug 27 2014, 01:12 PM)
blush.gif  when you withdraw money..
They send you checks instead of banking into your Bank Account..
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Lol to my mailing address?
Ok so i better put bank account no, so they send cheque to bank account

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