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post Jun 26 2014, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jun 26 2014, 10:11 PM)
What is your time frame you are looking at to invest in UT
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6 months-ish to 1 year max?
And 3 months for aggressive funds as I've done that before and left with good returns.

I know UT is not meant for short term...but...if it works for certain projected funds that are worth taking risk in, then I don't see why not too smile.gif
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post Jun 26 2014, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 25 2014, 10:34 PM)
If you are going to dca via fxpay it will have to be more than 500 otherwise they will charge rm2 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Jun 25 2014, 10:36 PM)
Lol, I wasn't planning to do it before 30th June o.O Fast, but not that soon, lol...sorry =/
Thanks for the info!
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QUOTE(techie.opinion @ Jun 25 2014, 10:44 PM)
Wow... RM2... FSM no charges wor...
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if u no money to invest more than rm500.
u can use normal maybank2u no charges

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post Jun 26 2014, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Jun 26 2014, 05:49 PM)
Certain situations, like long term, 1-2% is not a big problem. But for shorter period, to me, it's not feasible to pay couple of hundreds to thousands just like that, especially we are the one managing our funds ourselves, not relationship managers. RM50k*2% is already RM1k.
10k*2% is RM200, not RM20 tongue.gif
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lol, my failed maths.
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post Jun 26 2014, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jun 26 2014, 10:15 PM)
if u no money to invest more than rm500.
u can use normal maybank2u no charges

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Maybank is not going to charge you? plus it's troublesome to screenshot and email.

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post Jun 26 2014, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Jun 26 2014, 05:49 PM)
Certain situations, like long term, 1-2% is not a big problem. But for shorter period, to me, it's not feasible to pay couple of hundreds to thousands just like that, especially we are the one managing our funds ourselves, not relationship managers. RM50k*2% is already RM1k.
10k*2% is RM200, not RM20 tongue.gif
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Actually now that you think about it, if you have a large amount of money (over Rm100K) the commission starts getting ridiculous, but the returns are still pretty good considering.
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post Jun 27 2014, 01:03 AM

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eUnittrust promotion is tempting, not sure if I want another broker account though.

Indonesian fund hasn't been doing so well - JCI has done well, but the IDR has dropped off a fair bit.
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post Jun 27 2014, 10:56 AM

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This mth I have an aggressive appetite, RM10K into US equities linked feeder fund and RM 7,500 into m'sia small cap fund.

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post Jun 27 2014, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(nothingz @ Jun 26 2014, 05:03 PM)
every cent is money, 10k *2% is rm 20, can eat a decent meal
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Sometime you have to look at the market condition during SC discount offer. Many times I found that just because of chasing the 0% or 1% offer, I have bought at higher price than if I wait for the dip to top up or accumulate more. Need to make sure that we're not penny wise and pound foolish. Yes, 0% is tempting, but is the timing fit into your investment system/methodology?
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jun 27 2014, 01:25 PM)
Sometime you have to look at the market condition during SC discount offer. Many times I found that just because of chasing the 0% or 1% offer, I have bought at higher price than if I wait for the dip to top up or accumulate more. Need to make sure that we're not penny wise and pound foolish. Yes, 0% is tempting, but is the timing fit into your investment system/methodology?
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+100

I made handsome profit buying in at SC of 5.5-6% during 2008-2010 slump when I don't know about FSM and buying thru bank wink.gif
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post Jun 27 2014, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 26 2014, 01:57 PM)
KGF beta wrt KLSE is 0.81. Meaning for 1% KLSE increase, KGF increase 0.81%. This is their relationship. I got it from Bloomberg website.

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Obviously not true lol. KGF has been beating the klci for ages smile.gif
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post Jun 27 2014, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 27 2014, 01:36 PM)
+100

I made handsome profit buying in at SC of 5.5-6% during 2008-2010 slump when I don't know about FSM and buying thru bank wink.gif
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Could have made a better profit buying blue chips lol
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 27 2014, 02:04 PM)
Could have made a better profit buying blue chips lol
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No capital then

QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 27 2014, 02:02 PM)
Obviously not true lol. KGF has been beating the klci for ages smile.gif
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No point beating KLCI when KLCI is on downtrend...e.g. buy index and lose 20%, invest in KGF and lose 18%, proud? whistling.gif

Market timing is still relevant somehow.

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post Jun 27 2014, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 27 2014, 02:06 PM)
No capital then
No point beating KLCI when KLCI is on downtrend...e.g. buy index and lose 20%, invest in KGF and lose 18%, proud? whistling.gif

Market timing is still relevant somehow.
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Some of them were like rm5 per share .. that's 500 rm, less than the 1k you'd have to use for a mutual fund. Why no point? If there was an emergency and you needed to redeem some, you'd lose less.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 26 2014, 04:29 AM)
ya-lor,..got some at 4.xx% in Feb at Ambank...but this is another asset class diversification with chances of higher returns.
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Probably not really 4% either... some marketing sleight-of-hand. Real rate is probably 3.x% smile.gif
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post Jun 27 2014, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jun 27 2014, 01:25 PM)
Sometime you have to look at the market condition during SC discount offer. Many times I found that just because of chasing the 0% or 1% offer, I have bought at higher price than if I wait for the dip to top up or accumulate more. Need to make sure that we're not penny wise and pound foolish. Yes, 0% is tempting, but is the timing fit into your investment system/methodology?
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nobody asks you to go all in during 0% offer. I never encouraged blind investment. I am just pointing out that there is no point paying additional SC where you can buy somewhere cheaper.


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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 26 2014, 11:14 PM)
Maybank is not going to charge you? plus it's troublesome to screenshot and email.
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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Jun 27 2014, 01:03 AM)
eUnittrust promotion is tempting, not sure if I want another broker account though.

Indonesian fund hasn't been doing so well - JCI has done well, but the IDR has dropped off a fair bit.
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maybank transfer to maybank got charge?

u using maybank before?
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post Jun 27 2014, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jun 27 2014, 03:20 PM)
maybank transfer to maybank got charge?

u using maybank before?
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I don't use maybank cos they are freaking unreliable lol tongue.gif
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jun 27 2014, 03:20 PM)
maybank transfer to maybank got charge?

u using maybank before?
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No charge .. I use the FPX usually, no problems thus far
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QUOTE(nothingz @ Jun 27 2014, 03:14 PM)
nobody asks you to go all in during 0% offer. I never encouraged blind investment. I am just pointing out that there is no point paying additional SC where you can buy somewhere cheaper.
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Again need to assess whether it make sense to split your portfolio into multiple locations just because of 0% SC special offers

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