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hafez
post Aug 9 2006, 04:17 PM

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i'm also using the same board, 0605 bios & Pentium 4 630...

i try using A.I Overclooking Features... but only able to go until 10% oc... can choose 5%, 10%, 15% and 20% one...

if choose 15%, the board / windows xp sp2 will hang...

please help me how to do the manual way one...

tq...
Shah81
post Aug 9 2006, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Aug 4 2006, 10:35 AM)
All 775 P4 >=3.4Ghz can unlock multiplier,if you all don't know,don't be here lah....
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Oh my....what kind of crap is that. You cannot unlock a P4. The mobo is actually forcing the processor to use the 14X multiplier by manipulating the EIST features.
So basiccally you can only choose 14X or the processor default multi. Got that......2 options only. So if you buy a 930, you can choose 14X or 15X....and that is not unlock, you are just playing with EIST.

An unlock processor (ES,XE) can change the multiplier freely without these limitations given that the motherboard allows it and the processor is able to operate at the resulting speed. Example: with a 965XE, you can freely choose a multi from 12X to 60X. Now that is the real unlock!!!!

So the proper thread title should be "Which proc have the EIST function"

If you don't know what you're talking about. don't be here lah......don't play play man....
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post Aug 24 2006, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Shah81 @ Aug 9 2006, 05:27 PM)
Oh my....what kind of crap is that. You cannot unlock a P4. The mobo is actually forcing the processor to use the 14X multiplier by manipulating the EIST features.
So basiccally you can only choose 14X or the processor default multi. Got that......2 options only. So if you buy a 930, you can choose 14X or 15X....and that is not unlock, you are just playing with EIST.

An unlock processor (ES,XE) can change the multiplier freely without these limitations given that the motherboard allows it and the processor is able to operate at the resulting speed. Example: with a 965XE, you can freely choose a multi from 12X to 60X. Now that is the real unlock!!!!

So the proper thread title should be "Which proc have the EIST function"

If you don't know what you're talking about. don't be here lah......don't play play man....
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What a stupid guy here... icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif I am asking which 9XX multiplier can unlock,930 sure can't unlock, If i choose EIST function, then I no need to change the multiplier, and can't overclock lah...stupid...I am saying if I use 950 or above, the multiplier can unlock and low down to 14X, so I can overclock the FSB without limited by CPU clock speed, this is multiplier unlock,and not EIST function, multiplier is automatic adjust in EIST mode and not manually. You go back and study more lah, don't be here and disturb, f***er junior member rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(hafez @ Aug 9 2006, 04:17 PM)
i'm also using the same board, 0605 bios & Pentium 4 630... 

i try using A.I Overclooking Features...  but only able to go until 10% oc... can choose 5%, 10%, 15% and 20% one... 

if choose 15%, the board / windows xp sp2 will hang...

please help me how to do the manual way one...

tq...
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Don't use A.I Overclocking features, because it only overclock the processor and RAM without adding voltage, then it sure will hang...Go to bios, set overclocking profile to manual, select precision CPU/RAM speed, which will adjust CPU speed and RAM speed independently, if you overclock to 3.6-3.7Ghz, add the voltage to 1.4375-1.4625v,if you want to overclock above 3.7Ghz, you need to add more voltage. P4 630 should be no problem clocking to 3.8Ghz and above. You can just leave out the RAM speed tweaking first. Do you mind to submit your hardware specification? just list out your RAM brand, speed, power supply you use....
soulfly
post Aug 24 2006, 10:19 PM

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coolkwc,

although you know many things, you better watch your words. flamming other user with foul words may lead to ban.

take this as a warning.
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post Aug 24 2006, 11:28 PM

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Obviously I can see that you do not understand my previous post. Maybe my english is too good for you to understand. Oh btw....I've been here long before you came...noob.

You can drop the multplier to 14X on all of these 9XX processor because they support EIST: (default multiplier in brackets)

930 (15X)
940 (16X)
945 (17X)
960 (18X)

Since EIST is software controlled by writing to the processor MSRs (Model Specific Registers), mobo manufacturer can take advantage of this to force the proc to run 14X all the time and then give this option some exotic name like Asus CPU Lock-Free. Some people will go "WOW!!!...my mobo can unlock a P4".
But the truth is, the multiplier is already there and you can even drop your multiplier to 14X in windows using Crystal CPUID. So you are not unlocking anything at all....you just use it and again thanks to EIST.

It's basically like CnQ that came with Athlon64 which allow user to manipulate their lower multi but AMD CnQ is much more superior than Intel EIST. With Intel, you can only play with either 14X or the default multi of the proc itself. Now you can see what is the relationship between the Asus CPU Lock-Free and EIST. The genius engineers at Asus have found the registers related to EIST that is responsible to drop your multi to 14X during Idle state or lower loads. That's why in Asus CPU Lock-Free option, you can only choose enable or disable and you cannot choose your multi freely. When you set this to enable, the bios will fool the proc by manipulating these registers and you end-up wit 14X.

The conclusion is, if you want to drop your proc multiplier to 14X, just buy those processor that supports EIST (Eg:630 and up, 830 and up, 930 and up). But make sure to buy those that are 3GHz and above. 2.8GHz proc is already at 14X, so no point there. There is no such thing as a unlock 9XX proc, unless you buy the XE series or an Engineering Sample.

This is what I was trying to tell you while you're telling everyone that 9XX processors are unlock and mocking other senior members. So don't call people stupid when you're the ones that are lacking. If you're new, be humble and respect others. I hope you get the meaning of my post this time.
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post Aug 25 2006, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(Shah81 @ Aug 24 2006, 11:28 PM)
Obviously I can see that you do not understand my previous post. Maybe my english is too good for you to understand. Oh btw....I've been here long before you came...noob.

You can drop the multplier to 14X on all of these 9XX processor because they support EIST: (default multiplier in brackets)

930 (15X)
940 (16X)
945 (17X)
960 (18X)

Since EIST is software controlled by writing to the processor MSRs (Model Specific Registers), mobo manufacturer can take advantage of this to force the proc to run 14X all the time and then give this option some exotic name like Asus CPU Lock-Free. Some people will go "WOW!!!...my mobo can unlock a P4".
But the truth is, the multiplier is already there and you can even drop your multiplier to 14X in windows using Crystal CPUID. So you are not unlocking anything at all....you just use it and again thanks to EIST.

It's basically like CnQ that came with Athlon64 which allow user to manipulate their lower multi but AMD CnQ is much more superior than Intel EIST. With Intel, you can only play with either 14X or the default multi of the proc itself. Now you can see what is the relationship between the Asus CPU Lock-Free and EIST. The genius engineers at Asus have found the registers related to EIST that is responsible to drop your multi to 14X during Idle state or lower loads. That's why in Asus CPU Lock-Free option, you can only choose enable or disable and you cannot choose your multi freely. When you set this to enable, the bios will fool the proc by manipulating these registers and you end-up wit 14X.

The conclusion is, if you want to drop your proc multiplier to 14X, just buy those processor that supports EIST (Eg:630 and up, 830 and up, 930 and up). But make sure to buy those that are 3GHz and above. 2.8GHz proc is already at 14X, so no point there. There is no such thing as a unlock 9XX proc, unless you buy the XE series or an Engineering Sample.

This is what I was trying to tell you while you're telling everyone that 9XX processors are unlock and mocking other senior members. So don't call people stupid when you're the ones that are lacking. If you're new, be humble and respect others. I hope you get the meaning of my post this time.
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juz pass by to show some moral supports to u, really hate those flammers vmad.gif vmad.gif

to thread starter,it is not a fault when we dunno something, we all r here to learn or to share our experiences. If u think that this is really a good place to show off and bash ppl, then u r wrong vmad.gif

This post has been edited by dblooi: Aug 25 2006, 09:29 PM
antonio
post Aug 25 2006, 09:57 PM

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hmmm, I smell to much of an arrogant posts by someone who doesnt even know his grammar correctly. Please refrain yourself from talking loud because you never know who can speak louder regardless of junior member or senior member.

We all here to share (a bit bragging is ok) and no more else...Wanna show off and show big head...head over to xtremesystems.org, people there loves some 'big time fella'.

This post has been edited by antonio: Aug 26 2006, 12:32 AM
jumajuma
post Sep 12 2006, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Aug 25 2006, 09:57 PM)
hmmm, I smell to much of an arrogant posts by someone who doesnt even know his grammar correctly. Please refrain yourself from talking loud because you never know who can speak louder regardless of junior member or senior member.

We all here to share (a bit bragging is ok) and no more else...Wanna show off and show big head...head over to xtremesystems.org, people there loves some 'big time fella'.
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post Sep 12 2006, 04:10 PM

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yah indeed~ lowering multiplier and increasing FSB is not new for overclockers.....i do have a question tho' coz my Mobo supports Pentium D's but only by higher bios versions...also a little afraid in flashing my motherboard....(edit)Im using D101GGC.....can i use it without flashing bios??


(edit) whoops ^.^v

This post has been edited by linkin182: Sep 12 2006, 04:15 PM
KensfieldIntel
post Sep 13 2006, 04:44 AM

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where has coolkwc been?? MIA since Aug 25
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post Sep 17 2006, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(KensfieldIntel @ Sep 13 2006, 04:44 AM)
where has coolkwc been?? MIA since Aug 25
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maybe he need to do some research.. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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