pop.
there. burst oledi.
4 Critical Signs of a Bubble Market V5, Are the signs already there in Malaysia?
4 Critical Signs of a Bubble Market V5, Are the signs already there in Malaysia?
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Apr 4 2014, 02:04 PM
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pop.
there. burst oledi. |
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Apr 4 2014, 02:13 PM
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ok then, close thread since already burst
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Apr 4 2014, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(gspirit01 @ Apr 4 2014, 01:56 PM) The latest kidnapping case further dampened chinese buying in iskandar. Interesting how country garden will handle this mess. These correction factors will be another contribution point to DDD...Do u all know that general main land chinese r already very angry with malaysia since mh370 case ? good luck for properties holders.. |
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Apr 4 2014, 03:51 PM
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seems interesting topic.... am i too late to join in?lol, but v5 ady...... but really still havent burst. probably will burst when reach v99
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Apr 4 2014, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Apr 4 2014, 01:48 PM) If your area is new, then there may be a chance if the market really crash. If your area is established, you need more severe crash to meet your target If one know how and why price jumped from $600k to $1000k, will certain wait for it to fall back.If the landed house is RM1m now, you are looking at RM600k price. I also want QUOTE(juicyliana @ Apr 4 2014, 01:58 PM) wah! after V5 also bubble not yet burst. Dream? Not at all by established economic theory.guess it's all a dream and still a dream for those who are waiting for it to burst. QUOTE(CaptainCool @ Apr 4 2014, 03:51 PM) seems interesting topic.... am i too late to join in?lol, but v5 ady...... but really still havent burst. probably will burst when reach v99 Historically, burst always come earlier than expected.This post has been edited by icemanfx: Apr 4 2014, 03:53 PM |
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Apr 4 2014, 04:07 PM
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Apr 4 2014, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(CaptainCool @ Apr 4 2014, 04:07 PM) but then i thought many of us are already expecting a burst since 2008 or smtg.... if you said that burst come earlier than expected, then why dont we see any burst yet? Current bull run only started at about 2008/09. Unless local property market can defy conventional economic theory, burst is when not if.Burst is likely when many dibs units become vp and interest rate increased, which is expected from 2016. |
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Apr 4 2014, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 4 2014, 04:31 PM) Current bull run only started at about 2008/09. Unless local property market can defy conventional economic theory, burst is when not if. hmmmm, we'll see. but i dont think there will be a burst, i believe a dip maybe......but i think quite a lot of dibs vp starting this year, maybe we will see the effect sooner than later.Burst is likely when many dibs units become vp and interest rate increased, which is expected from 2016. |
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Apr 4 2014, 04:48 PM
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V5, V10 or V99 also doesnt show anything.....
The fact is over the years.... every year.... regardless economy good or bad.... there is always a group of ppl talking abt; prop pricey, prop at high price, prop price will hav correction, prop price will crash and etc.... At 2008 will say 2005 price is cheap.... 2011 will say 2008 price cheaper.... 2014 will say 2011 price still affordable.... |
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Apr 4 2014, 04:52 PM
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Apr 4 2014, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Apr 4 2014, 04:48 PM) V5, V10 or V99 also doesnt show anything..... Ya lor every year oso increase pricey.. dis year we dun buy.. see how the market goes.. maybe memorable ..The fact is over the years.... every year.... regardless economy good or bad.... there is always a group of ppl talking abt; prop pricey, prop at high price, prop price will hav correction, prop price will crash and etc.... At 2008 will say 2005 price is cheap.... 2011 will say 2008 price cheaper.... 2014 will say 2011 price still affordable.... |
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Apr 4 2014, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(CaptainCool @ Apr 4 2014, 04:39 PM) hmmmm, we'll see. but i dont think there will be a burst, i believe a dip maybe......but i think quite a lot of dibs vp starting this year, maybe we will see the effect sooner than later. Unlike stock or commodities, property is illiquid and will take years to bottom.QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Apr 4 2014, 04:48 PM) V5, V10 or V99 also doesnt show anything..... Similar was said on KLSE before 1997 crash.The fact is over the years.... every year.... regardless economy good or bad.... there is always a group of ppl talking abt; prop pricey, prop at high price, prop price will hav correction, prop price will crash and etc.... At 2008 will say 2005 price is cheap.... 2011 will say 2008 price cheaper.... 2014 will say 2011 price still affordable.... |
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Apr 4 2014, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 4 2014, 04:57 PM) Unlike stock or commodities, property is illiquid and will take years to bottom. Exactly!!Similar was said on KLSE before 1997 crash. Similar was said on prop in yr 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014...... Jus every yr hav a little new reason came out la.... oopss.... i suppose to be in DDD camp...... Die Die Die..... |
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Apr 4 2014, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Apr 4 2014, 05:11 PM) Exactly!! No worries lar ~ wait die ~ sure tat day will come ~Similar was said on prop in yr 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014...... Jus every yr hav a little new reason came out la.... oopss.... i suppose to be in DDD camp...... Die Die Die..... |
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Apr 4 2014, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Apr 4 2014, 05:11 PM) Exactly!! Between 1997 and 2008/9, property price was relatively stable except klcc. Doubt there was any DDD until 2010/11.Similar was said on prop in yr 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014...... Jus every yr hav a little new reason came out la.... oopss.... i suppose to be in DDD camp...... Die Die Die..... In 1997, most invested in stock lost what they have made over the years and more. Believe likewise for over stretched flippers. This post has been edited by icemanfx: Apr 4 2014, 05:24 PM |
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Apr 4 2014, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 4 2014, 03:51 PM) If one know how and why price jumped from $600k to $1000k, will certain wait for it to fall back. it won't burst so soon. as some forumers commented that that property prices will still stay. Dream? Not at all by established economic theory. Historically, burst always come earlier than expected. my personal opinion is that it will slow down or stagnant at most. i doubt it will have a meltdown. To me, i will always make sure that i've the holding power in case it burst. This post has been edited by juicyliana: Apr 4 2014, 05:27 PM |
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Apr 4 2014, 05:43 PM
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Apr 4 2014, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 4 2014, 05:24 PM) Between 1997 and 2008/9, property price was relatively stable except klcc. Doubt there was any DDD until 2010/11. Everybody now will kno... it is "stable" the past 10 over yr.....In 1997, most invested in stock lost what they have made over the years and more. Believe likewise for over stretched flippers. Question is how many ppl really kno it during those yrs?..... My first prop in yr 2002 (240K condo), there were ppl already saying prop price is high, some say crazy, many will say wait and see first.... and etc.... Subsequence yrs...... u will hear ppl saying almost the same thing every yr..... |
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Apr 4 2014, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 4 2014, 05:24 PM) Between 1997 and 2008/9, property price was relatively stable except klcc. Doubt there was any DDD until 2010/11. Save your breath.. dude cant differentiate btw tenanted property vs non tenanted units.. with price..In 1997, most invested in stock lost what they have made over the years and more. Believe likewise for over stretched flippers. I have also notice that dude is also cant differentiate the working of RPGT vs stamp duty adjudication.. the former is clearly based on profit only no other inteference body to calculate for you.. Accordong to my friend exp.. prop cost 400k developer flipped 700k.. profit is total 300k.. RPGT cuts on 300k .. of couse still can discount .. on other costs Stamp duty is the one calculated adjudicated.. say bought from developer 400k.. selling 300k ( selling in need of money) stamp duty is still based on prevaling market rate by LHDN.. if they feels is 500k.. they will ask you to pay stamp duty based on 500k.. NOT 400K OR PITY YOU 300K.. if a smart ass ask bought developer 400k smart ass flippers sold 800k.. howevrr LHDN similar market rate is 500k.. screw you.. they will not rely on 500k even ttansacted b4.. they will still adjudicate stamp duty at 800k.. same unit.. Dude.. dude.. I hope to repo him.. |
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Apr 4 2014, 06:00 PM
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