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VisionX
post Apr 6 2014, 08:54 PM

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Yes! Let's hope we finished fifth. Sometimes change is good. Change the manager, change the mindset of die hard fans who still in eternal slumber of the invincible era, change for a better Arsenal!
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post Apr 6 2014, 09:05 PM

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Goal, yes fifth place is materialize!!

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post Apr 6 2014, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Apr 6 2014, 09:05 PM)
I believe Cazorla is useless and yes 2 no down.

Wenger out will be trending again.. Seriously Wenger soes nothing technically..
Nothing has changed..
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Relax la abang, jgn la jadi plastic pula
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post Apr 6 2014, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Apr 6 2014, 09:08 PM)
Plastic is you who likes to lose and change manager and others..
Pretty useless fan i believe. How useless has your support been.
Please go to those oil football team.
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Im being realistic, u r dreamer. A fan would want their team to go forward, not backward, like u
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post Apr 6 2014, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Apr 6 2014, 09:14 PM)
Very forward. No UCL spot no one wants to go to Arsenal.
Stop being stupid and be more supporting. Being behind is something good, what a plastic.
No Wenger no Arsenal history remember that. Plastic very plastic.
How many times have I heard you wanna change the manager.
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Oh yeah, like being in 4th place could guarantee a champions league trophy? How many times have I heard from you? Winning trophy? 8 years? 9 years? #PrayforDieHardGoner

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post Apr 6 2014, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Apr 6 2014, 09:20 PM)
It gives the club revenue.. Millions. What are you budak2 sekolah ke ape? lol
Heard what? You being plastic? Yup every single week.
Desperate to win a trophy change club la.  rolleyes.gif
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Oh, what Millions have given you in 8 years? Chamakh? Squillaci?
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post Apr 6 2014, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Apr 6 2014, 09:26 PM)
Being out of debt after bulding the stadium. Being able to solidify the financial in Arsenal.
Being able to go out of debt, being very stable. No debt like other clubs.
Sudah la no point or even a good debate talking to you.
Find something good to talk.
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If you want to talk economy, I would say you are noob. You think thats the only way to achieve financial stability? By recruiting freebies and buy a bunch of 16 year old boys? And selling experience players? That is extreme way to save money. Ever heard of the word investment?

When you buy, buy a quality products, dont buy the likes of Giroud, buy Suarez! Win trophies! You could attract millions of new fans. Recovery cost through merchandising is gonna be positive in short period of time, rather than buying cheap players and struggle for 4th place, without a single trophy to fight for, how long you gonna last? 9 years? 10 years?

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post Apr 6 2014, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Apr 6 2014, 09:46 PM)
Noob tak noob you plastic.
Lama tu fikir nak balas balik.
So now we are talking about buying instead of your decision to change manager and etc?
If you even read the news or cared about the club, you know it's no use to keep a player who doesn't wanna.
Persie, Fab, Clinchy and others doesn't really wanna play so why keep them.
Experience or not if don't wanna play what is the use?

Yes yes buy your way to trophy success. How is that the Arsenal way?
That is just proof of how plastic you are. We win trophies without buying like crazy like Chelsea and Man C.
The last Wenger bought with an expensive price tag was Arshavin before Ozil. And we have won a lot.
Arsenal is not a club that buys their way out for trophies. Plastic!
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Have you ever wondered those players that left arsenal is aging? They arent club, they are human ffs. They have ambition to achieve high in their profession. And if the club is reluctant to progress since for all we know, wenger and the board is kedekut to buy, then for what reason these players want to stay? Think plastic, think you, for being so primitive in the football world
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post Apr 6 2014, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Apr 6 2014, 09:46 PM)
Noob tak noob you plastic.
Lama tu fikir nak balas balik.
So now we are talking about buying instead of your decision to change manager and etc?
If you even read the news or cared about the club, you know it's no use to keep a player who doesn't wanna.
Persie, Fab, Clinchy and others doesn't really wanna play so why keep them.
Experience or not if don't wanna play what is the use?

Yes yes buy your way to trophy success. How is that the Arsenal way?
That is just proof of how plastic you are. We win trophies without buying like crazy like Chelsea and Man C.
The last Wenger bought with an expensive price tag was Arshavin before Ozil. And we have won a lot.
Arsenal is not a club that buys their way out for trophies. Plastic!
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oh and by the way, buying is not arsenal way? I bet 42 million is considered small now in your dictionary
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post Apr 6 2014, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Apr 6 2014, 09:55 PM)
Yes buy your way to success plastic fan sad.gif
Cukup2 sudah. Sokong la Man City or Chelsea bro they buy every season.
Maybe you can sokong Spurs la, this will show you how spending a lot does nothing.  nod.gif
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Lol wenger tried to buy success with 42 million, and where has it ended up now? Your argument always contradict yourself, I can offer you my sympathy
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post Apr 6 2014, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Apr 6 2014, 10:03 PM)
I wonder why too.  doh.gif
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Oh I know why, according to Rei7's logic, why we want to keep a player who is not loyal to the club, why bother playing NB23, he is leaving anyways

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post Apr 6 2014, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Apr 6 2014, 10:10 PM)
Tak cukup lagi ke cari stupid point?
Sudah la dengan kau, logic sangat awesome.
Anything better than playing Giroud apparenty with his form.
So when you supporting other club? Announce it here first.
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Oops sorry, maybe coz your argument got a lot of holes, I cant help but to let you see for yourself. Oh btw, is your definition of fans mean they need to give support all the way? That is a toughie and I salute you for being blind for the past 9 years.

I'm a fan, I love my club, and I think people need to know we have to change for the better. I offer possible solutions, and if you dislike it, deal with it whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

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post Apr 6 2014, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Apr 6 2014, 10:41 PM)
I think specialist in failure was the best.
I don't agree at first but then boom. Self destruct.
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Eh plastic, diam boleh x
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post Apr 6 2014, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Apr 6 2014, 10:44 PM)
Cakap dengan diri sendiri. Penat melayan kau.  whistling.gif
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First you got angry when people criticize wenger, say they plastic la what la. Now what? you making joke of yourself. Mana harga diri lu? Stick to your principle la at least. Plastic sial
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post Apr 6 2014, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Apr 6 2014, 10:52 PM)
Ikot suke aku la nak cakap ape. Gua xnak Wenger blah.
But be realistic what Mou said apparently is true. So tell me how to back that up?
Jangan serious sangat la, ni internet. Plastic tetap kau who wants to lose, replace, and be in debt.
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How to back that up? you dont have to back that up if you dont bring it up in the first place. Shame on you. Claim to be optimistic but twisted. Identity crisis ke? Be realistic, like me, like London fan, dont be a dreamer, and then twisted.

Debt? Arsenal make huge profit every year. Buying suarez for 50million, n arsenal are in debt? but when bought ozil for 42 million, its okay? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Apr 6 2014, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Apr 6 2014, 11:05 PM)
It's already brought up before it was even mentioned.
You said before more than Suarez, now only mention one.
In debt because you were pointing out from 8 years time.
If for the 8 years buy our way out for trophy then for sure debt.
So?
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Err what? Sorry but I dont understand your english. Sorry. Sorry aa

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post Apr 6 2014, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(joeroxworld @ Apr 6 2014, 11:11 PM)
Kau ingat senang nak beli star player ?

Tengok keliling and be realistic.

Even with the huge profit u cant win the bid with unlimited fund teams.
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Wenger proved you he can buy Ozil, ask that question again?
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post Apr 6 2014, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(sigheart @ Apr 6 2014, 11:17 PM)
TBH if we spent the way City and Chelsea did we would've bankrupted.

A big chunk if not all of the money we earn every year goes into repaying the loan for the new stadium. We were 600 million+ in debt not including the interest when we moved to the Emirates and for all that to be repaid in a space of 8 years is pretty remarkable IMO. That is on average 75 million a year just for the new stadium loan.

I don't claim to know everything but seems like the stadium was just paid off and we had some left over cash hence spent on Ozil.

We need the CL this year for the money to be fully invested into players.

If Wenger stays judge him at the end of next year. But we need the CL football. Lets see what he can do when we have CL and a 100% war chest dedicated to transfers and every thing is at his disposal. If he still f*cks up the transfer window then fair enough probably he has lost it.
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It's good that Arsenal has managed to paid the stadium earlier or on time. But what I disagree is why to that extreme? To the point where all the revenue generated used to pay the stadium, and only small chunk to buy players. Look at what happened eventually to players bought? Chamakh, Squillaci, PCY, Giroud = useless. To add to that, all our stars left, Vpersie, Nasri, Fabregas to name a few. If we can balance the power every year, we could have become the new Barcelona by now. The new invincible if you may.

Here is what I think about Arsenal financial model. They could have allocate one big money to buy ONE top quality player every year, just ONE in the right department. Imagine, if 42 million is used to buy a quality forward, and not Ozil, we could have converted 50 more goals at this time of the year, and we might be challenging for title every year.

Balance is the key. Not Extreme.
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post Apr 6 2014, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(joeroxworld @ Apr 6 2014, 11:34 PM)
Name me at least 5 quality strikers available please.
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post Apr 6 2014, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(RyanAtwood @ Apr 6 2014, 11:37 PM)
huhu, but bro he can buy during last summer transfer window when he bought ozil.....why wait until january transfer window? there was one story when he tried to loan demba ba on the last day of summer transfer window but when mourinho heard he bought ozil, mou blocked the transfer...but why wait until last day of transfer window...when he failed with bids for higuain n suarez, why didn't he go for other strikers....he had 3 months to buy one striker to backup giroud....i think our scouts are one of the best in the world....don't they have a list of targets for AW to try n buy....i'm just saying he f**ked up when he did not try to buy a striker during the last summer window....
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