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Technical 3 Blinking Red Lights Of Death..Is it the END?, Can it be fixed or is it the end of it..

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Mr. Alby
post Feb 12 2007, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Feb 12 2007, 12:34 PM)
laugh.gif I can't just simply exchange bro, there is a term and condition for the GAme disc which supplier gave me down~ laugh.gif
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hehehe....noted man....
,,mayb next time can clarify what are their term n condition... brows.gif
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post Feb 13 2007, 10:41 PM

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Just curious. Can i manually remove the dvd-drive and replace it with another 360 dvd-drive? FYI both drive are orginal from a 360. I am thinking of getting spare parts from 3ROD victims and maybe i can solve my "Your Disc is Unreadable" problem.

Btw, i am using a 1st batch Japanese console so my dvd-drive is a Hitachi drive. Can i change it with a Samsung one?
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post Feb 13 2007, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(vivaldi @ Feb 13 2007, 10:41 PM)
Just curious. Can i manually remove the dvd-drive and replace it with another 360 dvd-drive? FYI both drive are orginal from a 360. I am thinking of getting spare parts from 3ROD victims and maybe i can solve my "Your Disc is Unreadable" problem.

Btw, i am using a 1st batch Japanese console so my dvd-drive is a Hitachi drive. Can i change it with a Samsung one?
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I would suggest try another Dead Rising disc before jumping straight to hacking apart your DVD Drive laugh.gif
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QUOTE(vivaldi @ Feb 13 2007, 10:41 PM)
Just curious. Can i manually remove the dvd-drive and replace it with another 360 dvd-drive? FYI both drive are orginal from a 360. I am thinking of getting spare parts from 3ROD victims and maybe i can solve my "Your Disc is Unreadable" problem.

Btw, i am using a 1st batch Japanese console so my dvd-drive is a Hitachi drive. Can i change it with a Samsung one?
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its possible. all the tutorials are at the scene forum. for your specific case, messing with dvdrom firmware is 100% LEGAL! LoL. not really sure what causes the "Your Disc is Unreadable" problem, though.

but i think its better u change ur current hitachi drive with another (spare parts) hitachi drive icon_idea.gif
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post Feb 13 2007, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(vivaldi @ Feb 13 2007, 10:41 PM)
Just curious. Can i manually remove the dvd-drive and replace it with another 360 dvd-drive? FYI both drive are orginal from a 360. I am thinking of getting spare parts from 3ROD victims and maybe i can solve my "Your Disc is Unreadable" problem.

Btw, i am using a 1st batch Japanese console so my dvd-drive is a Hitachi drive. Can i change it with a Samsung one?
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Yes you can and here are the steps :-
This procedures are for the same drive type, for example swapping Samsung drives.

1. Get your original drive key by dumping the firmware and copy it to some safe place.
2. Now get the replacement drive and flash the dumped firmware (from your previous drive or Step 1) into it.
3. Enjoy your Xbox360.

I would suggest that you use the same type of drive even though you can replace other type or brand of drive but the procedures are more tedious.

Another solution is to adjust the DVD pots of the laser pickup but sooner it will die too. The other solution is to get the laser pickup replacement. You can buy it at Ebay and replace it yourself (if you're really confident on doing that)

This post has been edited by tot31: Feb 13 2007, 10:56 PM
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post Feb 14 2007, 01:38 AM

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ZzzZzzZzz..

2 pcs of Xbox 360 from a fren (which they already moded)
1 pcs from UK set (Trying a way to send back to SG)
2 pcs From Sg but not purchase from me (also trying a way to send back to SG)
2 pcs need to send back to supplier (this one no worries.. 1 to 1 laugh.gif )
1 pcs need to send back to Ingram Micro (shop unit purchase)

I'm getting 3RODs from everywhere..

everybody knows whats Error 103 ?

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Microsoft is set to come under pressure in tonight's edition of consumer affairs show Watchdog as the investigative team looks into potential faults with the Xbox 360.

GamesIndustry.biz has learned that the programme will focus on the 'ring of death' problem, as it's been nicknamed by gamers, where three red lights appear around the console's power button and the machine stops working.

The problem appears to occur much more frequently in the first batch of Xbox 360 units produced.

In the US, Microsoft agreed to offer complimentary repairs to owners of faulty consoles manufactured before January 1, 2006 - even if their warranties had expired. The company also said it would refund customers who had already paid for repairs.

However, it would seem the deal only applies to US Xbox 360 owners. Here in the UK, as Watchdog is set to report, gamers are being asked to pay between GBP 80 and GBP 90 to have their console fixed - regardless of when it was manufactured.

The show will feature interviews with consumers who have experienced problems with their Xbox 360s, but GamesIndustry.biz understands that Microsoft has declined to send a representative to appear on the programme.

Watchdog will be broadcast tonight on BBC1 at 7pm GMT.

UPDATE: Microsoft has now told the BBC that "most people with an Xbox 360 have an outstanding experience, and there is no systemic issue". They say each incident is unique and is looked at on a case by case basis, and have given one of the consumers featured on tonight's show a replacement unit and a new game.


sources : gamesindustry.biz

Wander how does the show goes.. intresting...

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post Feb 14 2007, 08:07 AM

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AIYOOOOO Microsoft!

My friend in Australia just RODed 5 minutes ago. His is less than 3 weeks old. WHY? WHY?


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we also duno how can we answer you leh...
all of us the Xbox 360 owner is waiting for that answer la...
not only... we all scare to get 3ROD la...
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post Feb 14 2007, 09:10 AM

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maybe as a precaution lah because now is el-nino season so everyone should take extra extreme good care of their 360. if play longer hrs then make sure 2 to 3 table fans blowing onto it. as usual the main of all VENTILATION on 360!
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i think ventilation play a prts la...
MS didn't have proper inhaling vents in the front...
n not that really proper vents covers...
it should really test it out without fans or air-conds on...
jus normal windows opens.... then take the termal camera shots n also measure the temp at the GPU itselfs...
that will be helping them to solve that problem...
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that was why i dont dare to position my 360 vertically. trying not to block those ventilation holes on both sides
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post Feb 14 2007, 09:34 AM

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In my opinion positioning the X360 doesn't contribute much on the 3ROD syndrome. It's the design flaw. The rear fans aren't powerful (they use only 5V) enough to suck out such heat draw from the gpu and cpu. The worst thing is the gpu lies directly beneath the dvd rom drive and the heat from the drive adds more stress on the gpu.
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post Feb 14 2007, 11:39 AM

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dun be sad. we've all been through this b4, almost all. very soon in a few weeks' time, you will enjoy the flashing displays of the red lights on your 360. you will subsequently be making calls to MS and making a trip down to funan with your heavy white elephant. you may even make repeated trips back to funan cos the replacement may not be perfect too.

but you will soon get used to this process and seeing the same punks at service hub, they will become your regular friends. but donch worry, just keep calling whenever your 360 breaks down, cos MS don't seem to care about your warranty period. since they donch give a damn about their QC too, just call complain abit, and they will replace.
that's the life of a 360 gamer
LoL. 3RoD brings the gamer community closer. next time after Msia official launch, can have organize official gathering/lepak session at service hub tongue.gif tongue.gif the trully sad part is after a year, error 0102 is still "unknown error". hmm, those QC engineers must be working very hard to identify and solve the problem.

Btw, just tested 1 hr yesterday, power brick upside down/terbalik. underneath put 2 piece of chinese chess checkers. i like this setup better icon_idea.gif


QUOTE(DjiNn @ Feb 14 2007, 01:38 AM)

everybody knows whats Error 103 ?
sources : gamesindustry.biz

Wander how does the show goes.. intresting...
error 0103 also similar to 0102 - still "unknown error"

very interesting news rgd the BBC show, i believe EU consumer products have 2 yrs warranty by consumer law. not sure abt england though. england so blardy cold, still get random 3RoD?

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Feb 14 2007, 08:07 AM)
AIYOOOOO Microsoft!

My friend in Australia just RODed 5 minutes ago. His is less than 3 weeks old. WHY? WHY?
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I got like from fresh from the shop. Just Purchase go back home come back to me in 1 hours 3 rods. laugh.gif but this is the unknown error 103 la~. (confirm manufacture defect already)

QUOTE(michael9413 @ Feb 14 2007, 08:56 AM)
we also duno how can we answer you leh...
all of us the Xbox 360 owner is waiting for that answer la...
not only... we all scare to get 3ROD la...
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just pray~.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(judge-the @ Feb 14 2007, 09:10 AM)
maybe as a precaution lah because now is el-nino season so everyone should take extra extreme good care of their 360. if play longer hrs then make sure 2 to 3 table fans blowing onto it. as usual the main of all VENTILATION on 360!
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2-3 table fans.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(tot31 @ Feb 14 2007, 09:34 AM)
In my opinion positioning the X360 doesn't contribute much on the 3ROD syndrome. It's the design flaw. The rear fans aren't powerful (they use only 5V) enough to suck out such heat draw from the gpu and cpu. The worst thing is the gpu lies directly beneath the dvd rom drive and the heat from the drive adds more stress on the gpu.
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There is so many design flaws from the xbox 360 mobo~. And.. I want to know in the first place.. Why everything the GPU,CPU put so freaking near... (Confirm sure very hot) and There is no fan blowing the heatsink... instead it takes the hot air out from the exhaust fans.. shakehead.gif

QUOTE(acougan @ Feb 14 2007, 11:39 AM)
http://bob.com.sg/forum/showpost.php?p=354931&postcount=279
LoL. 3RoD brings the gamer community closer. next time after Msia official launch, can have organize official gathering/lepak session at service hub tongue.gif tongue.gif the trully sad part is after a year, error 0102 is still "unknown error". hmm, those QC engineers must be working very hard to identify and solve the problem.

Btw, just tested 1 hr yesterday, power brick upside down/terbalik. underneath put 2 piece of chinese chess checkers. i like this setup better  icon_idea.gif
error 0103 also similar to 0102 - still "unknown error"

very interesting news rgd the BBC show, i believe EU consumer products have 2 yrs warranty by consumer law. not sure abt england though. england so blardy cold, still get random 3RoD?
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yeah.. I'm wandering how the shows goes on ~.. anybody can search in youtube ?

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post Feb 14 2007, 12:34 PM

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Personally, I don't agree that it's the heat that causes it - may be a contributory factor - but not the key factor. Speculating nonetheless, it's a design thingy, probably soldering thingy, likely manufacturing QC thingy, maybe it's just Billy Pagar has placed a time-bomb inside that goes kaboom randomly to give it's customers a fuller experience of M$ customer service and replacement policy.

I mean my 3ROD happened during winter. It's well ventilated & I don't "hardcore" use it for hours on end. Still one fine day, did a cold start of the console, and my console flashed me 3 red tits.
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QUOTE(terranova @ Feb 14 2007, 12:34 PM)
Personally, I don't agree that it's the heat that causes it - may be a contributory factor - but not the key factor. Speculating nonetheless, it's a design thingy, probably soldering thingy, likely manufacturing QC thingy, maybe it's just Billy Pagar has placed a time-bomb inside that goes kaboom randomly to give it's customers a fuller experience of M$ customer service and replacement policy.

I mean my 3ROD happened during winter. It's well ventilated & I don't "hardcore" use it for hours on end. Still one fine day, did a cold start of the console, and my console flashed me 3 red tits.
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now this brings me very intresting topic to go for.

from my percentage of customer and frens who bring in the 3ROD xbox 360 machine... Guess what.

80 percent that people don't play (means no hardcore playing, no 24 hours downloading.. ) and per day they use it like 2 - 3 hours .. they hit the 3ROD

10 percents are those people who play non-stop and like average of 9 months they hit the 3ROD

10 more percents are unkown error...

(this percentage calculation is based on my shop. Is not worldwide laugh.gif )
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this will be my 2nd 360 if kena 3ROD i think i wanna change my nick 2 MicroReallysuck_360
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QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Feb 14 2007, 12:43 PM)
this will be my 2nd 360 if kena 3ROD i think i wanna change my nick 2 MicroReallysuck_360
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laugh.gif but then you have to create another new accounts.. troublesome... laugh.gif

if that is your gamertag... you have to spend 800 ms point to change... in the end.. MS eats you more.. cry.gif
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Feb 14 2007, 12:44 PM)
laugh.gif but then you have to create another new accounts.. troublesome... laugh.gif

if that is your gamertag... you have to spend 800 ms point to change... in the end.. MS eats you more.. cry.gif
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lol GT still the same only lowyat nick...heheheheh...now only using for like 2-3hrs...lol...kinda pissed off coz while playing my kepala keep on telling me please no 3ROD..no 3ROD lol... vmad.gif
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My name is Merlin MY and I am victim of GPU failure (which would ultimately lead to 3ROD). Console was only slighly more than 1 month old and when this misfortune befell me. Luckily, I bought from GH and Djinn gave me a 1 to 1 exchange. It's not very often you find get such great service from gaming resellers. Usually, they just lay the blame on the console owner and ask them bury it in their own backyard.

Truly, Djinn & his GH has raised the service level for the gaming community. I recommend to everyone who wants to buy a new unit or replace their existing unit from GH. You'll have peace of mind and better sleep at night.

no, i don't get a commission for giving such a rave review. biggrin.gif tongue.gif

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