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post Apr 1 2014, 08:41 AM, updated 12y ago

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http://www.phileweb.com/news/audio/201405/11/14441.html

http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/

http://vaiopocket.seesaa.net/article/396760291.html

Edited out the April's Fool joke, looks like they're not done with
milking out the older models.
but the new revamped ones at least looks quite nice and full screen this time. Specs not released yet though, but looks like it's android based with wifi! smile.gif
hope there's Google play there, but u doubt it. They'll probably be using their MQS streaming services like the AK240 to milk more money.

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post Apr 1 2014, 09:29 AM

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April fool? Haha.... Fitear also having the same marketing technique here biggrin.gif have a look : http://fitear.jp
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post Apr 1 2014, 09:38 AM

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Lol I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't judging from iriver past trend. Currawong said he already heard it, so could be if all the mods are on it as well tongue.gif
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post Apr 1 2014, 09:39 AM

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Wow, almost as ugly as the last one. Hate to say there are way too many suckers that are not going to be able to resist whatever iriver is putting out these days. It is like feeding troll.

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post Apr 1 2014, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Apr 1 2014, 09:39 AM)
Wow, almost as ugly as the last one. Hate to say there are way too many suckers that are not going to be able to resist whatever iriver is putting out these days. It is like feeding troll.
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Lol I agree. I had enough of the sudden surge of new DAP wars. I'm considering falling back to an all in 1 source - the phone...
btw I remembered you were interested in getting a Z1 compact? Have you gotten it yet? Was wondering how is the SQ like.
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 1 2014, 09:57 AM)
btw I remembered you were interested in getting a Z1 compact? Have you gotten it yet? Was wondering how is the SQ like.
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Already saw it in the local Sony store, but didn't really play around it by much. As I have saved enough money, I decided to move up the ladder and get the Z2 instead.
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Apr 1 2014, 11:33 AM)
Already saw it in the local Sony store, but didn't really play around it by much. As I have saved enough money, I decided to move up the ladder and get the Z2 instead.
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wise choice! will await your review of its DAC biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Apr 1 2014, 11:33 AM)
Already saw it in the local Sony store, but didn't really play around it by much. As I have saved enough money, I decided to move up the ladder and get the Z2 instead.
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And I'll prob wait for the Z2 compact since I'm looking for something smaller. Or I might just cave in to i6 if their DAC is acceptable lol
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Oh hey, look at the calendar.....
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post Apr 3 2014, 09:49 AM

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Confirmed it's April fool joke~

http://www.head-fi.org/t/712487/april-fool...80-music-player
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post Apr 3 2014, 10:16 AM

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Yep, pity though. Would be interesting. But I won't be surprised if they release a similar priced product within this year or next.
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 3 2014, 10:16 AM)
... But I won't be surprised if they release a similar priced product within this year or next.
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Head fi mods trolling ahahah
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It would be a new milestone in headfi industry if they really releasing such DAP...biggrin.gif
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post May 11 2014, 08:19 PM

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Lol they're not done with the older revamped models yet smile.gif
Actually looks sexy, and it's android based with wifi. Unfortunately it looks like there's only 1 sd card slot.

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This is not going to be good.
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post May 13 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(joshuachew @ May 11 2014, 10:40 PM)
This is not going to be good.
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Looks like they are going to call it AK200 and AK220. I think they are going down the smartphone road, releasing newer versions every year lol
I hope the specs suck... Then I won't be sucked back in sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 13 2014, 03:29 PM)
Looks like they are going to call it AK200 and AK220. I think they are going down the smartphone road, releasing newer versions every year lol
I hope the specs suck... Then I won't be sucked back in  sweat.gif
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How do you know they're calling it that?
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ May 13 2014, 03:38 PM)
How do you know they're calling it that?
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Just a guess from this pic smile.gif

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 13 2014, 03:51 PM)
Just a guess from this pic smile.gif

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 13 2014, 03:29 PM)
Looks like they are going to call it AK200 and AK220. I think they are going down the smartphone road, releasing newer versions every year lol
I hope the specs suck... Then I won't be sucked back in  sweat.gif
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I hope their specs suck too biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Already kena sucked by the AK100 v1 and AK120, but luckily not the A240, I hope this time I won't be sucked in again
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post May 15 2014, 07:43 PM

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lol specs are out...

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post May 15 2014, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 15 2014, 07:43 PM)
lol specs are out...

http://www.astellnkern.com/
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Finally the search function. The IU seems to have much improvement...Wondering how much the price tag for it drool.gif
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QUOTE(yang2910 @ May 15 2014, 07:53 PM)
Finally the search function. The IU seems to have much improvement...Wondering how much the price tag for it drool.gif
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Its gonna set us back by some pretty pennies again thats for sure. blush.gif

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QUOTE(joshuachew @ May 15 2014, 09:49 PM)
Its gonna set us back by some pretty pennies again thats for sure.  blush.gif
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Big mistake liking Peter's facebook page!

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I didn't know you're into the whole portable set up too, I thought you were just a set up guy.
And you just haaaaaaaaddddd to share it? You like to watch your brothers fall don't ya'? LOL.
On a serious note, if this upgrading from AK is going to be a yearly Samsung like thing, we are dead.
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ May 15 2014, 10:22 PM)
I didn't know you're into the whole portable set up too, I thought you were just a set up guy.
And you just haaaaaaaaddddd to share it? You like to watch your brothers fall don't ya'? LOL.
On a serious note, if this upgrading from AK is going to be a yearly Samsung like thing, we are dead.
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Nope my preference still isn't into portables, for the time being. LOL

I agree on that statement, portable setups come up way too often. I think it is barely 2 years and A&K have way too many models and revisions over this period in which the original AK100 was their own mistake for putting that 22 ohm output impedance.

Then came the AK120 to correct that mistake, then the MK2 fixed the original OI on the AK100. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Problem @ May 15 2014, 10:31 PM)
Nope my preference still isn't into portables, for the time being. LOL

I agree on that statement, portable setups come up way too often. I think it is barely 2 years and A&K have way too many models and revisions over this period in which the original AK100 was their own mistake for putting that 22 ohm output impedance.

Then came the AK120 to correct that mistake, then the MK2 fixed the original OI on the AK100.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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If it becomes this yearly Samsung like thing, I think it is going to put alot of people off. Hopefully after this two come out they will slow it down abit.

Last night when I saw the Calyx M's more or less finalised specs, I was thinking to myself, why don't I get this instead and abandon the AK ship. But yea. I will see out this AK120 Titan that I have first and see how it goes from there and how the DAP scene is like when its time for me to buy my next DAP.

To all my AK brothers.....
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Lol from what I read, AK100 and 120 2nd gen plays DSD64 natively but PCM for DSD128. I have a feeling native playing for DSD128 will be implemented via firmware in the future.
But I'm really tempted now dammit lol
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 15 2014, 11:05 PM)
Lol from what I read, AK100 and 120 2nd gen plays DSD64 natively but PCM for DSD128. I have a feeling native playing for DSD128 will be implemented via firmware in the future.
But I'm really tempted now dammit lol
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Yea, put your 128GB baby to good use, get the AK120 II.
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ May 15 2014, 11:32 PM)
Yea, put your 128GB baby to good use, get the AK120 II.
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Lol I heard Apple will be going hi def... All they need is a micro sd slot..
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 16 2014, 01:12 AM)
Lol I heard Apple will be going hi def... All they need is a micro sd slot..
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Agenda in bold is never going to happen. Lol.
But seriously. If Apple makes high end DAPs. That's win of the century. Good design. Fantastic UI. Apple ecosystem. Easy to source for accessories. Easy warranty wise. Sky high price. But who cares. Lol. Apple.
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ May 16 2014, 01:24 AM)
Agenda in bold is never going to happen. Lol.
But seriously. If Apple makes high end DAPs. That's win of the century. Good design. Fantastic UI. Apple ecosystem. Easy to source for accessories. Easy warranty wise. Sky high price. But who cares. Lol. Apple.
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Lol but i hate their ecosystem though...

btw price for the 2nd gen AK
100: 999 Euro / 120: 1799 Euro
100: 1090000 won / 120: 1980000 won

estimate RM 3450 and RM6250 (before any hanky panky price hike)

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 16 2014, 06:35 PM)
Lol but i hate their ecosystem though...

btw price for the 2nd gen AK
100: 999 Euro / 120: 1799 Euro
100: 1090000 won / 120: 1980000 won

estimate RM 3450 and RM250 (before any hanky panky price hike)
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hanky panky price hike is a real thing!
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 16 2014, 06:35 PM)
Lol but i hate their ecosystem though...

btw price for the 2nd gen AK
100: 999 Euro / 120: 1799 Euro
100: 1090000 won / 120: 1980000 won

estimate RM 3450 and RM250 (before any hanky panky price hike)
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At that price, I would not be bothered with the AK120 II already and if I were to upgrade, I would just go for the AK240.
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QUOTE(pj_guitarist @ May 16 2014, 07:07 PM)
hanky panky price hike is a real thing!
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Sad but true ;(

QUOTE(joshuachew @ May 16 2014, 08:40 PM)
At that price, I would not be bothered with the AK120 II already and if I were to upgrade, I would just go for the AK240.
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Hehe but you get to save extra RM2k tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 16 2014, 09:31 PM)
Sad but true ;(
Hehe but you get to save extra RM2k tongue.gif
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1,799 Euro is like Rm8,000 already. E1 selling the 240 for about Rm8,999?
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ May 16 2014, 09:43 PM)
1,799 Euro is like Rm8,000 already. E1 selling the 240 for about Rm8,999?
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Nah, can't use Euro to compare with us for dollar to dollar. We usually follow USD or closer to the Won, and based on past trend when it's 1,799 Euro it'll be around 1,799 USD brows.gif
Just like AK240 selling for around USD 2,500, in Europe it goes for around Euro 2,500 as well.
Those poor Euro folks have it tough.

If using USD, it should be around USD 1,799. Seeing the Korean price is 1,980,000 Won = 1,930 USD, it's around that price i guess
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 16 2014, 10:02 PM)
Nah, can't use Euro to compare with us for dollar to dollar. We usually follow USD or closer to the Won, and based on past trend when it's 1,799 Euro it'll be around 1,799 USD  brows.gif
Just like AK240 selling for around USD 2,500, in Europe it goes for around Euro 2,500 as well.
Those poor Euro folks have it tough.

If using USD, it should be around USD 1,799. Seeing the Korean price is 1,980,000 Won = 1,930 USD, it's around that price i guess
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1,799 USD I am in. LOL
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ May 16 2014, 10:40 PM)
1,799 USD I am in. LOL
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LOL, dammit... no dual dac for me again haha
would have jumped at Geek Wave which offers better value for money, but i'm a sucker for aesthetics =.=
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If its 2K USD then no thanks, I'll stick to my current players and the Hugo. But if its 1,799USD. Maybe. Just maybe.
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ May 16 2014, 11:19 PM)
If its 2K USD then no thanks, I'll stick to my current players and the Hugo. But if its 1,799USD. Maybe. Just maybe.
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hehe will this tempt you more? biggrin.gif
http://www.whathifi.com/news/qobuz-app-bri...ll-kern-players

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 17 2014, 12:14 AM)
I don't think they will have the music I listen to available for download there, or anywhere else. tongue.gif
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I don't think they will have the music I listen to available for download there, or anywhere else. tongue.gif
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Hehe you're in luck! Will be USD1799 biggrin.gif
Expect an extra few RM hundreds once it hits Malaysia tongue.gif
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Hehe you're in luck! Will be USD1799 biggrin.gif
Expect an extra few RM hundreds once it hits Malaysia tongue.gif
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Where? Links or it didn't happen. tongue.gif rclxms.gif
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Where? Links or it didn't happen.  tongue.gif  rclxms.gif
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Lol from the German AK FB page biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 18 2014, 04:35 PM)
Lol from the German AK FB page biggrin.gif
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Why germaon page quoting us in USD one? They trying to tease us and get our hopes up and then later tell us typo and its actually 1,799 Euro......... cry.gif
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Why germaon page quoting us in USD one? They trying to tease us and get our hopes up and then later tell us typo and its actually 1,799 Euro......... cry.gif
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Haha figures are the same for both USD and Euro. Someone asked for the price in USD and they also quoted same figure. So the Euro folks are getting screwed nicely tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 18 2014, 07:08 PM)
Haha figures are the same for both USD and Euro. Someone asked for the price in USD and they also quoted same figure. So the Euro folks are getting screwed nicely tongue.gif
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Hehe. Just like the Shures. SE846 is selling for 999USD in US and 950Pounds in UK.
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Why you do this to me when I just got my ak120 few months ago sad.gif

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Why you do this to me when I just got my ak120 few months ago sad.gif
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It has been in-store ready for audition for over a week nod.gif

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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Jun 17 2014, 10:57 PM)
It has been in-store ready for audition for over a week  nod.gif

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How does it sound against the 240?
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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Jun 17 2014, 10:57 PM)
It has been in-store ready for audition for over a week  nod.gif

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Wanna try it out doh.gif
I got my ak120 for 3.5k
Is this better or the old one is better?
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QUOTE(eugenelimys @ Jun 18 2014, 12:12 AM)
Wanna try it out doh.gif
I got my ak120 for 3.5k
Is this better or the old one is better?
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Gentlemen, drop by with your AKs and familiar tracks on microSDs to compare. Let your ears be the judge thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ Jun 17 2014, 11:03 PM)
How does it sound against the 240?
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Don't worry. Your AK240 is still better. biggrin.gif Tested when I was in HK 2 weeks ago.
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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Jun 18 2014, 12:30 AM)
Gentlemen, drop by with your AKs and familiar tracks on microSDs to compare.  Let your ears be the judge  thumbup.gif
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would love to be there.... but this guy here is in Penang la... macam mana try >< I need to prepare for my IELTS T_T
tell me about how was it compared to the ol' AK120 :3

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jun 18 2014, 01:50 AM)
Don't worry. Your AK240 is still better.  biggrin.gif Tested when I was in HK 2 weeks ago.
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I was almost going to buy the AK120 II to upgrade from my AK120 Titan. But after reading the initial reviews I just got the 240 and didn't bother with the 120 II
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ Jun 18 2014, 10:08 AM)
I was almost going to buy the AK120 II to upgrade from my AK120 Titan. But after reading the initial reviews I just got the 240 and didn't bother with the 120 II
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You mean upgrade your RWAK120 Titan? sweat.gif
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