i used to age water(with anti-chlorine+chloramine(a good branded one)) for at least 24 hrs...no more than 2 days(as i usually change water every 2 days ) By right, indian almond leaf is suppose to help prevent/cure fin rot but if u soak the leaf in the water for too long, it will start to grow fungus(as i tried to age it with my water for more than 24 hours). 1 trick a singaporean 'kaki' taught me was to cut off the stem of the leaf and roll/shove the leaf into an empty small mineral water bottle and age it until the colour turns brownish and then throw out the leaf (and continuing mixing the 'brown water' with each water change). also, fyi, the brown water has the same effect as black water sold in LFSs if i remember correctly (sorry its been 5 yrs )

swim bladder is not cancer....its not life threatening...its just a disorder that will be with the fish for life....Dropsy is like cancer...

Back to the previous topic, Aged water can remove chlorine but what about chloramine?

i myself do not know about Malaysian water....maybe got a kit to test chloramine?

mineral water? not advisable to use mineral water for any fish...use normal tap water...also make sure that you use the unfiltered water as some filters totally filters out the chlorine and adds in additional minerals hence changing the chemistry of the water totally.

Just soak the leaf for less than 24 hours...or before the leaf starts to grow fungus as the growth of fungus causes bettas to get fin rot.

i came across an Indian almond tree so i decided to snap 2 pics to show hobbyists who do not know how the tree looks like

This is the picture of the tree as a whole....(the middle tree above the waja)


and this is the upclose pict of the leaf


This post has been edited by ynneb25: Feb 23 2008, 02:53 PM

answer 1:

pick up the leaves that have fallen on the floor. Wash it til all the dirt is removed, then soak the leaf in the water in any container(be it together with the betta or wherever)

answer 2:

no problem at all...just make sure that the leaf does not grow any fungus.

d) apparently, feeding ur betta the yellow powder(LFS medicine) can heal dropsy....but then again getting ur betta to eat medicine is a long shot. Just buy medication for dropsy and let nature take its course.


@cirebonbetta,

Yes, it does look like the correct leaf Btw, only pick those on the floor....those green ones 'tak boleh pakai' yet. It has to be brown leaves.

This post has been edited by ynneb25: Feb 28 2008, 03:08 PM

omg diamond filter? Read alot of research condemning that filter

Anyways, back to the main topic. There could be a chance that your fish is not suffering from dropsy. Are you sure of that diagnosis?

Here are the more humane ways of killing ur betta (as learnt from betta breeders):
1) flush them down the toilet.
2) throw them into monsoon drain
3) put them in the freezer(yes, i am serious...and i have tried it b4)

to be on the safe side, don't feed mosquitoes....especially after they have been exposed to insecticide....ur betta sure die after eating them

try going: here

alot of betta breeders are not active in Lyn. good luck!

i can enter one...

anyway just go here: http://www.bettasocietymalaysia.com.my/forum

for that quality...i expect RM1.50...personally think u got ripped off

BTW, do u know how many % aquarium shops make for each sale of bettas? Approx. 200-300%(min). In the past, i have personally supplied an aquarium shop with low grade crowntails for rm1.50 each....only to find out that he was selling each for RM25. Also found out that aquarium shops purchase veil tails for only 30 sen each.

This post has been edited by ynneb25: Jun 23 2008, 11:40 PM

actually, aquarium shops do NOT have to take in much....their bulk in terms of bettas would be 30-50 bettas which is not much in terms of the amount of frys expected to get from each spawn.

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Added on June 24, 2008, 12:02 amIf you want quality fish, obviously i would recommend you to purchase from local breeders...And of coz, quality matches the price you pay.

This post has been edited by ynneb25: Jun 24 2008, 12:02 AM

there are a few variations to the way to get bettas to breed. Well, this is (or was) my way. Use 2 see-thru (transparent) containers of different sizes(1 small and 1 big- make sure the smaller container can fit into the big container) Place the female into the small container and the male into the big container(same water level for both containers). Place a half-cut styrofoam cup floating in the big container for male to build the nest. Leave them there for a few days until both of them are ready. Siphon the uneaten/faeces everyday and top-up a lil water. The female will show vertical stripes when she is ready. I normally let her 'fatt hao' abit until she stops running from the male and the male calms down abit. Then i transfer her into the big container. Then, fingers crossed

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Added on June 24, 2008, 12:47 pmJust don't overfeed. If you feel that ur betta is starving, then you could feed ur fish twice a day(lesser amount at a time of coz)

This post has been edited by ynneb25: Jun 24 2008, 12:47 PM

I guess u the male is not ready yet...

hungry? it doesn't make sense

i seriously doubt there is such a thing....never heard of b4 maybe some sifus can shed some light on this

extremely poor water condition. Try changing water everyday. Make sure u r using anti-chlorine(do not overdose/underdose). Make sure u put in a pinch of aquarium salt. From the looks of it, your betta could die within these few days

if u want quality bettas, i wouldn't recommend u to buy them from pet shops....most of the time petshops' bettas carry crappy genes....i know..i supplied quite a few of crappy ones in the past

Try going to http://www.bettasocietymalaysia.com.my/forum/index.php and ask around....

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Added on June 25, 2008, 11:13 pmi have never encountered fin rot where the fin turns black....so i cannot confirm that it's fin rot...anyway, melafix is the best solution for fin rot...apart from being a 'barber' for ur fish

This post has been edited by ynneb25: Jun 25 2008, 11:13 PM

Try isolating the shy/scared betta for a week or so. Don't let it see any other betta. It should start getting territorial after being isolated