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 Crusader V1, The unbending champions of Faith & Law

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post Apr 27 2014, 10:03 PM

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The build depend on what your gear. But endgame or High torment, Holy/ Condem build is very viable.
Blade of Prophecy make extra 2X condemn. Each crit up to 20+mil or more.
Once U got akkhan 6 pcs bonus, you can keep spamming Condemn as long as your Akkarat Champion is up.
Mannercookie had showcase this condemn build very well in his youtube and twitch channels. I was his stream almost every night.

I only got 2 akkhan pcs now. BOP just drop for me yesterday. I will keep farming for my akkan pcs and then decide to convert to condem build and craft some Reduced CD set.

Note: I am now lighting build with blessed hammer/justice.
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post Apr 28 2014, 12:14 AM

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Looking at cookie manners bop akkhan condemn build i agree with his explanation and is what i am aiming for now.

So time to stack cdr.

What sold me was his defensive and offensive and almost instant akarat champ recast. All the criteria i wNted addressed, even the explanation how he manages to use less all resistance with thr help of secondary stat reduce elite dmg affixes to be able to gem for more str for 10k.


just to share my opinion on my build i'm switching away from.

1. shield bash - feels a bit slow. like there is a slight delay between spaming sb after another. feels like an internal cooldown. i wish it didn't do that. also pound has a really small radius, which is another down side.

2. on t6 i cannot tank long periods at all. also the wolf shield damage doesn't seem to be much impact on t6. until they buff buff wolf shield, i don't think i'd use that for t6 for now, seeing as there better shields for t6.

3. punish celerity better off replacing for blessed shield using a jaekobong shield to empower it more.

4. and the biggest reason i am moving away from fell of fate and heavens fury, is it the dots from hf does not proc rally..... probly not an issue if your using eberli charlo i suppose, but still u would want hf to work with rally to reduce cooldown for your other spells.

5. a condemn + akarat champ - rally and blessed shield seems the best method using akkhan set with blade of prophecy in t6. the role would be for the crussder to nuke groups of creeps deads quick. this will be my new role in group play in t6.

6. for survivability i will try toning down ares gems to compensate using elite dmg reduction on secondary, so i can use more str gems.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 28 2014, 07:16 AM
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post Apr 28 2014, 11:48 AM

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Since release people have been saying CDR + ele dmg is the way to go for crus. Now people are believing it. Before that all still stacking "Aspd" and go "Trifecta". Lel.

3* T6 builds so far that works really well but very gear dependent.

1. CDR Condemn Build AC with Akkhan.
2. ASPD build with Gyrfalcon's Foote + Jekangbord.
Edit : 3. Commander build, CDR Akkhan with Baleful Remnant and shield bash.

I've got 5 akkhan set pieces and a RoRG just need a freaking BoP to make shits possible.

Or just a gyrfalcon's.

This post has been edited by HeartRoxas: Apr 28 2014, 12:38 PM
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post Apr 28 2014, 01:30 PM

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It's painful to be an under-gear Crusader...

While many of you crusader player there are owning all the high end gears for you to play different builds, many are still struggling as a low-end crusader (like mine) who don't have any good weapon to spam out skill.

I'm currently wielding a 2H weapon and using heavenly strength. What's happen was sometime I happen to got a right full of FAST RUNNING BAST**D. Like those ghost, sand wasp, small spider and so. And many of these fast running monster are good at running away from you, and come back doing guerrilla attack while you're swarmed by other elites...

Today I'm so 'lucky' to kena 2 groups of elites: 1 Group of champion sand wasp and 1 Yellow elite of Ghost. Both are "FAST, EXTRA HEALTH", one of them got nightmarish while another got jail. It's one of the most frustrating fight I ever encountered since playing D3... darn all of them easily out run my slow ass Crusader and runaway whenever I hit them once... it took me close to 20 minutes to clear them...

well I still hoping for a Gryfalcon... wanna go take revenge on all these jokers!!!
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I am running cruz at 400k dps and 1mil toughness. I can tank easily in T1 but take a d**n long time to kill creeps.

Running lightning build fulminator ( thats all i foudn right now) lightning belt... hammer throw plus blessed hammer +50% each.

Still tough... add me biggrin.gif #rawness6261
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Apr 28 2014, 12:14 AM)
Looking at cookie manners bop akkhan condemn build i agree with his explanation and is what i am aiming for now.

So time to stack cdr.

What sold me was his defensive and offensive and almost instant akarat champ recast. All the criteria i wNted addressed, even the explanation how he manages to use less all resistance with thr help of secondary stat reduce elite dmg affixes to be able to gem for more str for 10k.
just to share my opinion on my build i'm switching away from.

1. shield bash - feels a bit slow. like there is a slight delay between spaming sb after another. feels like an internal cooldown. i wish it didn't do that. also pound has a really small radius, which is another down side.

2. on t6 i cannot tank long periods at all. also the wolf shield damage doesn't seem to be much impact on t6. until they buff buff wolf shield, i don't think i'd use that for t6 for now, seeing as there better shields for t6.

3. punish celerity better off replacing for blessed shield using a jaekobong shield to empower it more.

4. and the biggest reason i am moving away from fell of fate and heavens fury, is it the dots from hf does not proc rally..... probly not an issue if your using eberli charlo i suppose, but still u would want hf to work with rally to reduce cooldown for your other spells.

5. a condemn + akarat champ - rally and blessed shield seems the best method using akkhan set with blade of prophecy in t6. the role would be for the crussder to nuke groups of creeps deads quick. this will be my new role in group play in t6.

6. for survivability i will try toning down ares gems to compensate using elite dmg reduction on secondary, so i can use more str gems.
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Yup just watched his vid on BS.
Works well. Time to rest my WD and go back to crus lol
Too bad my jekang only 4 bounce.
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post Apr 28 2014, 04:28 PM

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Is it a good combination jekang + BoP with Arkhan set? If using full set bonus arkhan set. (Assuming royal ring is equipped) do we still need reaper wrath?
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post Apr 28 2014, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Apr 28 2014, 01:30 PM)
It's painful to be an under-gear Crusader...

While many of you crusader player there are owning all the high end gears for you to play different builds, many are still struggling as a low-end crusader (like mine) who don't have any good weapon to spam out skill.

I'm currently wielding a 2H weapon and using heavenly strength. What's happen was sometime I happen to got a right full of FAST RUNNING BAST**D. Like those ghost, sand wasp, small spider and so. And many of these fast running monster are good at running away from you, and come back doing guerrilla attack while you're swarmed by other elites...

Today I'm so 'lucky' to kena 2 groups of elites: 1 Group of champion sand wasp and 1 Yellow elite of  Ghost. Both are "FAST, EXTRA HEALTH", one of them got nightmarish while another got jail. It's one of the most frustrating fight I ever encountered since playing D3... darn all of them easily out run my slow ass Crusader and runaway whenever I hit them once... it took me close to 20 minutes to clear them...

well I still hoping for a Gryfalcon... wanna go take revenge on all these jokers!!!
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And people are looking down on a 1Hander saying there's not enough damage. Neglecting the Aspd and the movespeed.

I run with a Skycutter. A 1handed +holy weapon. I rape better than my 2Hander due to Ele dmg, more hits per sec, and runs faster, and I don't use long CD skills for burst. Of course, it isn't end game, but from lagging behind my team in T2, to carrying them in T3, with just one weapon change and build change. Feelsgoodmang.jpg

Everyone was under-geared at some point. Heck I can't even get one of the three "great weapons" of the crusader. Under-geared crusader is really painful because this class is too gear dependent. Which is no longer an issue after playing for long but I hate it when luck plays huge part in making you "geared".

QUOTE(KruteX @ Apr 28 2014, 04:28 PM)
Is it a good combination jekang + BoP with Arkhan set? If using full set bonus arkhan set. (Assuming royal ring is equipped) do we still need reaper wrath?
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Safe to say as long as you use blessed shield as a spender, Jekang is the best shield.

When using BoP you'll mainly want to focus CDR. Blessed shield should be a "Downtime" skill where all your skills will be on CD. The idea is to get to 0 CD eventually though so by then you can prolly change a different skill.

Only if you have less than say... 5-10 seconds downtime, then you can take away wraps. If not, it's still BiS.

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post Apr 28 2014, 11:01 PM

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today i completed arkhan full set bonus (5 piece + royal ring) and i did tested BoP, but i think currently the build is still not viable to me due to : im low lvl paragon. just P170, if i want to go for cdr, i will lose my cd which boost the dmg.

and my royal ring have quite bad roll... hmm i think i need to farm GG royal ring as well.
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QUOTE(KruteX @ Apr 28 2014, 11:01 PM)
today i completed arkhan full set bonus (5 piece + royal ring) and i did tested BoP, but i think currently the build is still not viable to me due to : im low lvl paragon. just P170, if i want to go for cdr, i will lose my cd which boost the dmg.

and my royal ring have quite bad roll... hmm i think i need to farm GG royal ring as well.
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Grats on 5 set! I just got a FotF drop as well. Currently enjoying God's shotgun.

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post Apr 29 2014, 08:31 AM

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I think the condemn arkhan build only viable and strong enough if you at higher torment level where your cc,cd and cdr at max level. UNLESS you had a really good roll on your eq. Sigh, i guess need use +exp equipment while rifting and do bounties.
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Can't wait to get my hands on a gryfalcon foote! Being doing a lof of Rifts n kadala is being a b*%#¥ as always... Blessed shield (shattering throw) is just too awesome paired with jekangbord... Can't imagine having gryfalcon....

My next enchant for jekangbord cost me 750k ... rclxub.gif so hard to get cc? shakehead.gif

On a side note, do any of you good ppl play hardcore mode?

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post Apr 29 2014, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(gh0sty @ Apr 29 2014, 08:36 AM)
Can't wait to get my hands on a gryfalcon foote! Being doing a lof of Rifts n kadala is being a b*%#¥ as always... Blessed shield (shattering throw) is just too awesome paired with jekangbord... Can't imagine having gryfalcon....

My next enchant for jekangbord cost me 750k ...  rclxub.gif  so hard to get cc?  shakehead.gif

On a side note, do any of you good ppl play hardcore mode?
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same here, am aiming this flail for so long to do multi missles build sweat.gif

Initially I want the flail which give you 3 wrath of heaven rays, but I think with all the elemental dmg stack + aspd, this build prevail~
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post Apr 29 2014, 11:22 AM

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Basically for a crusader, it won't be viable unless equip with the legendary which boost crusader skills.

CDR build, Blesses Shield Build etc

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post Apr 29 2014, 01:10 PM

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hoo hoo just now curi play in office, my slow ass crusader kena 2 groups of foes: 1 group of champion succubus and 1 group of champion morlu incinerator. wow it's a big pain fighting them while the girls running around and the morlu keep teleporting away..
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Apr 29 2014, 10:25 AM)
same here, am aiming this flail for so long to do multi missles build  sweat.gif 

Initially I want the flail which give you 3 wrath of heaven rays, but I think with all the elemental dmg stack + aspd, this build prevail~
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Im capt murica build too, god knows wen falcon flail wil drop.

currently using skycuttet + hallowed shield
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I got both gryfalcon foote and jekang, the damage not impressive though, need to change my build and get good gears.
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im using maximus and jekang..pump fire and blessed shield dmg..now got 9~10m crit and doing well in t3
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http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/21583/a...hat-s-in-store/

"Reducing Tyrael's Chatter
Tyrael talks too much when in town in the game's adventure mode. He will talk less frequently and with more variety in the upcoming patch."
LOL
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post Apr 29 2014, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Apr 29 2014, 10:28 PM)
http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/21583/a...hat-s-in-store/

"Reducing Tyrael's Chatter
Tyrael talks too much when in town in the game's adventure mode. He will talk less frequently and with more variety in the upcoming patch."
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oh why... I kinda like it.

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