Perhaps they expect you to have 1m DPS + 3 beams + 100% skill buff + 40% additional damage against elites?

Nothing wrong to have more DPS.
Yes, it's important. And you know I don't refer to paper DPS.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Apr 6 2014, 12:52 PM

Great. Too bad I salvaged the Fell of Fate. Really Bad roll on my one.

How to u ppl get more than 1 Utility or Conviction Skills ?

Elective Mode. Settings > Gameplay > Elective

thanks bro, does this effect anything like exp gain ?

no effect

if we play crusader as tank, then we'd need something like provoke to be more effective at grabbing aggro to tank ....

when i try stay ahead of the group, the mobs most the time will also run by me to reach the other ranged members ...... so my choice here is to either stunlock to prevent that, or to use provoke .....

so that would be the role of a crusader....... nobody expects much from us, other than adding that itsy bitsy damage, or the small task of tanking as best as we can..... and that is downright disappointing.

Maybe it's a build we haven't figured out yet, but from what i'm seeing we just aren't pulling the numbers that classes the barbarians are doing.



Maybe this isn't too apparent in the lower torment levels. but having played t3 and t4, my dps is less by far compared to the damage dealers in the group so if dps is not what i'm contributing the most, i'm filling the role as a tank to take the hits every chance i get and stunlock (shako clones), and add some damage with my heavens fury and hope that does a little damage to kill the weaker creeps my law buff to speed up attacks also helps the team, along the passive it does.

but if your hoping a crusader can take the role of a main damage dealer in your group, this most likely is not gonna happen

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 6 2014, 10:30 PM

imo, crusader stated dps and toughness divide by 2 = equivalent dps and toughness for other classes.
that's how it feels like for me anyway.

there is an effective build out there which is used by Aureus which requires
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/gyrfalcons-foote
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/jekangbord

Hurl your shield, dealing 280% weapon damage plus 250% of shield Block Chance as damage. The shield will ricochet to 3 nearby enemies.
Blessed Shield ricochets to 4–6 additional enemies.

It's 1H, solves the MS problem
It's 0 cost now, solves the wrath problem
It hits up to 9 enemies at range, mostly solves the move to target/not enough trash mob clearing capabilities of the other crusader primaries
It does more damage too

The other viable build is the thorns/reflect based build.

a while ago some guy discovered using thorns on ghoms cloud or other similar poison spells to reflect back and he did like 40 million dmg per sec.


This was later then fixed lulz


interesting blessed hammer build

seems to be doing about same damage as me, but whats interesting is the attack speed of his attacks which over time seems to hit faster and do much more accumulative damage. the only down side seems to be no stead, and the heavens fury 1 beam seems kinda pathethic now. I actually have a blessed hammer 1 hander that gives my hammers the rune of dominion which lets hammers follow you as you move, meaning i can then use 2 runes.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 7 2014, 07:35 AM

newbie crusader reporting in.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/bsl-6386/hero/45688451

noob question, why my movement speed is stagnant at 10% only?
also, what is the effective way to regenerate wrath quickly?
with my setup 600k+ dps & 8-9m toughness, i only can play at master, T1 is playable but took too long time to kill enemies.
i'm using condemn, heaven's fury & bombardment as main damage.
sometime switch from law of justice to law of valor (unstoppable force) however still keep run out of wrath quickly

using 2-H and passive sure MS got capped bro...

hehe bro.. coz u wear 2 hand wep... that passive - ur max ms speed reduce by 15%

u can check my http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/faheem-1459/hero/44721947 skill

nice jugak

mlm nanti aku ikut.. Cru aku baru graduate smlm

boleh np ;D

ic, but how to resolve wrath regen problem?
yesterday whole day crusader really feel no good leh..

bro, longtime no see u online D3..
mana pegi??

im at EU server now thinking to afk from RoS for a while... loot too bad for me...stuck using rare gears onli

regen wrath every normal hit + shield glare (zelous glare) ini regen 9 wrath every enemy blinded..

so when on low wrath go to the group use condem (vacum) to suck mob then u blind a group mobs. more mob more wrath.

then spam fires of heaven.. 1 or 2 shotgun can kill white mob very fast.

+1 i have loot trag'oul coil bracer..
healing wells replenish all resources.. this for mine..

but we need to have other crusz opinion too.

This post has been edited by faheem: Apr 7 2014, 10:55 AM

Crusader is the best class for now.
No other class can come close to Cru's burst damage, not even Wiz (meh, 20 secs burst damage but 120 sec cool down)

i know it's not the best, but for me 40 mil from bombardment is whack: True story.

Can't imagine someone with mortal drama "Double the bombardment"
"80+ mil" *shudder*

Don't know why people whine about dps. it's not meant to play like a wizard. That's why there is a wizard class. I'd be damned if the crusader could output DPS like a wizard, yet have shield block, and burst AOE at the same time