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Apr 18 2014, 11:08 AM
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Apr 18 2014, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 18 2014, 11:09 AM) Disagree. So, should I go scold himThe dividends that the stock pays is never constant. It can go up and it also can go down. (Up examples - plenty) (Down example - YTL Power and oh... CScenic ... and possibly many others too.) Stock prices - never constant. Business profitability can improve... But it also can decline. So for someone like a big boss or what to tell you such statement.... there are a lot of assumptions made. "Oi! Why u lead me to Holland!" ??? |
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Apr 18 2014, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 18 2014, 11:12 AM) Divvy is MD's idea, he's more of a FA investorScomi Eng is GM's stock pick, he's more of a hot tip speculator, he never see FA wan This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Apr 18 2014, 11:14 AM |
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Apr 18 2014, 11:18 AM
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Apr 18 2014, 11:24 AM
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Apr 18 2014, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 18 2014, 12:34 PM) Last time i also play divvy stock, but end up my capital near to zero dun understand that part majority of gain derived from divvy after 1-2 years Then ah boon gave advise, i only realise growth company can bring tremendous gain. Let me give an example, Those who bought Hartalega since IPO, receiving 20%+ divvy yield if based on IPO, MYEG also look the same. |
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Apr 18 2014, 02:39 PM
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Apr 18 2014, 02:41 PM
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Apr 18 2014, 03:01 PM
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Apr 21 2014, 09:32 AM
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Looking to dump DY 6% but stagnant Magnum for DY 5% but grow-able Amway.
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Apr 21 2014, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 21 2014, 09:42 AM) What worries me on Amway is its >100% dividend payout ratio for the past few years. Where is it getting the money from? Reserves, loan etc? Any motive for doing this? My projection of 95% payout for FY14 also yields DY of >5%.Cheerio. FY13 payout was 95%. But looking at its Balance Sheet, it's quite cash rich. And being an MLM company, its main asset would be its sales/agency force, little need for capital expenditure. My concerns are: - future growth - competition from smaller MLM players This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Apr 21 2014, 09:45 AM |
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Apr 21 2014, 09:56 AM
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Apr 21 2014, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 21 2014, 09:56 AM) Wondering why is its debt/cap so high at 60+% as it is not a capital intensive company. Huh? It's net cash/zero-geared lar Its EPS profile over the years is very impressive. But not all good thing will last forever. Sorry. Need pne's judgement to look ahead and then make one's decision. Cheerio. Calculation of gearing ignores trade payables, u only take borrowings. That's the conventional way of calculating it lar. |
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Apr 21 2014, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 21 2014, 10:06 AM) Sifu PS, thanks. Please clarify for me. Look at its Balance Sheet@Statement of Financial Position, u don't see any borrowings, right?Don't understand why its debt/cap is so high then if it is not really debt. I did not do well in my school accounting subject! Ha. Cheerio. Most calculation of gearing only takes borrowings, trade creditors/payables are not taken into account. |
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Apr 21 2014, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 21 2014, 10:24 AM) I ACCA graduate but I slept thru my finance paper. Don't ask me cost of capital, beta, alpha etc etc etc » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Apr 21 2014, 10:26 AM |
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 21 2014, 10:36 AM) 1. Free cash flow > dividend paid Only that 2 a bit hard...2. Dividend pay rate < 60% 3. Growth in dividend paid at least matching inflation 4. Long term dividend paying must at least raised dividend (YoY) 6 times out of last 10 paid. 5. Reasonable growth in profits (otherwise your dividend cannot grow) 6. Buy at reasonable price PE (after debt) or the earning yield you target (1/PEx100) 7. Business must have reasonable moat and consistent profits Well those are my criteria... |
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