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SUSPink Spider
post Apr 18 2014, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(cksoon @ Apr 18 2014, 11:07 AM)
to all homer holders, what price you all plan to let go?
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satu enam kosong! biggrin.gif
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post Apr 18 2014, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 18 2014, 11:09 AM)
Disagree.

The dividends that the stock pays is never constant.
It can go up and it also can go down.

(Up examples - plenty)
(Down example - YTL Power and oh... CScenic ... and possibly many others too.)

Stock prices - never constant.

Business profitability can improve...
But it also can decline.

So for someone like a big boss or what to tell you such statement....
there are a lot of assumptions made.

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So, should I go scold him

"Oi! Why u lead me to Holland!" mad.gif

???

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post Apr 18 2014, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 18 2014, 11:12 AM)
I remember last time you post about your boss...

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Which Scomi did he ask you to buy? tongue.gif
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Divvy is MD's idea, he's more of a FA investor

Scomi Eng is GM's stock pick, he's more of a hot tip speculator, he never see FA wan

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Apr 18 2014, 11:14 AM
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post Apr 18 2014, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 18 2014, 11:16 AM)
By who ah?  rolleyes.gif

Today on jalan-jalan, long weekend.. indon today public holiday due to good friday lol... wink.gif
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Itu...Negara Islam...ada cuti Hari Jumaat Bagus? tongue.gif
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post Apr 18 2014, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 18 2014, 11:21 AM)
Indonesia where got negara Islam?

You must be imagining...
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ini...sarcasm ka? tongue.gif
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post Apr 18 2014, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 18 2014, 12:34 PM)
Last time i also play divvy stock, but end up my capital near to zero

majority of gain derived from divvy after 1-2 years

Then ah boon gave advise, i only realise growth company can bring tremendous gain.

Let me give an example,
Those who bought Hartalega since IPO, receiving 20%+ divvy yield if based on IPO, MYEG also look the same.
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post Apr 18 2014, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 18 2014, 02:38 PM)
30 counters in my favorite list, only one blinking nonstop like tomorrow is end of earth.
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Might as well buy an index ETF doh.gif
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post Apr 18 2014, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 18 2014, 02:40 PM)
Favorite list is different from buy list... need some sort of entertainment...
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u sicko rclxub.gif
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post Apr 18 2014, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 18 2014, 02:57 PM)
Ops sorry, is "Capital Gain"
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Funny, my capital gain > dividends received blink.gif

Or am I doing my dividend investing wrong? sweat.gif
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post Apr 21 2014, 09:32 AM

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Looking to dump DY 6% but stagnant Magnum for DY 5% but grow-able Amway.

Anyone willing to comment? notworthy.gif
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post Apr 21 2014, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 21 2014, 09:42 AM)
What worries me on Amway is its >100% dividend payout ratio for the past few years. Where is it getting the money from? Reserves, loan etc? Any motive for doing this?

Cheerio.
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My projection of 95% payout for FY14 also yields DY of >5%.

FY13 payout was 95%.

But looking at its Balance Sheet, it's quite cash rich. And being an MLM company, its main asset would be its sales/agency force, little need for capital expenditure.

My concerns are:
- future growth
- competition from smaller MLM players

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Apr 21 2014, 09:45 AM
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post Apr 21 2014, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 21 2014, 09:54 AM)
What's Amway's stock code?
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Oi, don't push it now, wait for a bit more weakness tongue.gif
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post Apr 21 2014, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 21 2014, 09:56 AM)
Wondering why is its debt/cap so high at 60+% as it is not a capital intensive company.

Its EPS profile over the years is very impressive. But not all good thing will last forever. Sorry. Need pne's judgement to look ahead and then make one's decision.

Cheerio.
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Huh? It's net cash/zero-geared lar blink.gif

Calculation of gearing ignores trade payables, u only take borrowings. That's the conventional way of calculating it lar.
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post Apr 21 2014, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 21 2014, 09:55 AM)
My advice, get more growth stocks  laugh.gif
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Recommend me some?

But dividend yield must be at least 3% and net gearing <30% biggrin.gif
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post Apr 21 2014, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 21 2014, 10:06 AM)
Sifu PS, thanks. Please clarify for me.

Don't understand why its debt/cap is so high then if it is not really debt.

I did not do well in my school accounting subject! Ha.

Cheerio.
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Look at its Balance Sheet@Statement of Financial Position, u don't see any borrowings, right?

Most calculation of gearing only takes borrowings, trade creditors/payables are not taken into account.
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 21 2014, 10:12 AM)
It's a beautiful day...  rclxms.gif
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Why edited? Year high no more? tongue.gif
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post Apr 21 2014, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 21 2014, 10:17 AM)
risk free rate normally change align with gov bond rate one.  sweat.gif
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Now risk-free rate is 3% lor
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post Apr 21 2014, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 21 2014, 10:22 AM)
LOL.. none!  tongue.gif
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I'm wearing a pink one now blush.gif
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post Apr 21 2014, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 21 2014, 10:24 AM)
College teach people how to use useless crap beta and become academician laugh.gif
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I ACCA graduate but I slept thru my finance paper. Don't ask me cost of capital, beta, alpha etc etc etc rclxub.gif

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post Apr 21 2014, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 21 2014, 10:36 AM)
1. Free cash flow > dividend paid
2. Dividend pay rate < 60%
3. Growth in dividend paid at least matching inflation
4. Long term dividend paying must at least raised dividend (YoY) 6 times out of last 10 paid.
5. Reasonable growth in profits (otherwise your dividend cannot grow)
6. Buy at reasonable price PE (after debt) or the earning yield you target (1/PEx100)
7. Business must have reasonable moat and consistent profits

Well those are my criteria... wink.gif It's a bit hard to find now. hence i concentrate more on small caps..
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Only that 2 a bit hard...

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