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post Apr 15 2014, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 15 2014, 04:03 PM)
Cheh...

So what price you queue now?

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drop to 25% - 29% I will Queue again, dont worry.

Guys you have to respect KFC trader like me icon_question.gif laugh.gif
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post Apr 15 2014, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 15 2014, 04:07 PM)
I jump in with u. Q at 2.2  brows.gif
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2.2 =.=" wait few more days or weeks la
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post Apr 15 2014, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 15 2014, 04:10 PM)
Boon asked me not to play kfc ah .... So I buy lower lo  brows.gif
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what can do, boon disappointed to teach me liao. I always go for KFC cry.gif
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post Apr 15 2014, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 15 2014, 04:14 PM)
Your dream may come true .... Lau sai already 2.75
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Like that I go play malton better
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post Apr 15 2014, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 15 2014, 04:50 PM)
This is true, but if a stock is overvalued, it tends to move towards FV, likewise, undervalued stock tends to move up towards FV. So FV is the closest benchmark
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if FV wrong leh ? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 15 2014, 04:53 PM)
China shares drop over 1% as banks hit by weak data

BEIJING: China shares fell sharply on Tuesday as the banking sector took a beating after data showed the country's money supply grew at its slowest pace in more than a decade.

The Shanghai Composite Index ended down 1.4 percent at 2,101.60 points. The CSI300 of the leading Shanghai and Shenzhen A-share listings lost 1.7 percent.

The CSI300 banking subindex fell 2.3 percent after statistics showed China's money supply grew at its weakest pace since 2001 and loan growth slowed in March.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...t-by-weak-data/
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you made me cry.gif ,
But hor last 3 weeks already up almost 15 % every bank. So correction a bit is normal actually.
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 15 2014, 04:58 PM)
China bank is also like a rubber band stretched too far already... but this one not the price but the NPL...  whistling.gif

Like Boon say.. waiting when want to snap only...  rolleyes.gif
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I also scared scared when see the NPL....hold these stocks for 1 and half year. Can't even beat FD.

Lee Kah Shing just cancelled many developer project in Mainland China...made me more sweat.gif


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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 15 2014, 05:01 PM)
I remember.... reading recently a report saying the banks were selling under its cash per share value....

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I wonder why.... tongue.gif
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Almost 1 and half year already lo...not recently happened one. cry.gif
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post Apr 15 2014, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 15 2014, 05:03 PM)
The NPL they let you see is just the tip of the ice berg... a lot of NPL is off the books one in china.. like lehman minibonds. Already got a few default, but still the government cover up... when want burst only.  laugh.gif
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I actually know de...shadow banking mah.

I sigh this for sometimes already. Maybe one word stubborn. Since 07 these bank macam never recovered one.

Those US investment bank almost every month also post regarding the NPL , shadow banking , toxic assets sweat.gif

Can say I hear until no feeling already.

Stock up and down like roller coaster. sometimes up 8 % in one day, sometimes drop 8% in one. vmad.gif
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post Apr 15 2014, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 15 2014, 05:12 PM)
Nah new one... how they repackage these toxic loans....
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The PRC already stepped in two times last time. sweat.gif

I keep on tracking the biggest developer in China now sweat.gif

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post Apr 15 2014, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 15 2014, 05:13 PM)
If so long ..... what does it mean? tongue.gif
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PRC have serious economy problem.

Start from 2008, the shanghai index composite behave like very long U curve that probably last a decade for economic restructure. ( similar taipei index in 1980's )

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post Apr 15 2014, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 15 2014, 05:27 PM)
There was once a super power country froma  poor country suddenly become wealthy due to industrial might... everybody thought they are invincible... economy was good, property market rise at unprecedented pace, then follow by stock market, everyone was rich... it was happy times indeed.

Sounds like china now? But it has happened in history before... guess which country is this..

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japanese "cough cough"

But cannot compared japanese economies at 1970's to current china now la.
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 15 2014, 05:32 PM)
Not directly comparable yes, but some downturns can last several decades, you will first die before you can manage to breakeven...  sweat.gif
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if PRC have deflation issue, this definitely will happen.

I try my luck and guess it turn out to be like US 1970's instead. Still a lot of room untapped in China.

Better be bull instead of bear.

If really I guess wrong, I will not have any regrets.

I am ready more than 2 times my current portfolio size for my cash reserve in case anything worst happened ( more than 70% drops sweat.gif )


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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 15 2014, 05:41 PM)
Will China's one-child policy ultimately lead to deflation  hmm.gif
On top of that, pollution is serious. PRC may need to spend more on medical bills, and therefore have less cash for other things.
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I am not economist, so I don't know laugh.gif

But based on the Japan history, it shouldn't be the reason lead to deflation ( In my opinion la )


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post Apr 16 2014, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 16 2014, 10:35 AM)
Gark, what is the easiest way to calculate fair value for a stock?
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 16 2014, 10:40 AM)
I believe he has a huge Excel sheet with all the formulas and variables, ready to plug and play. Now, the easiest way is to hack his PC  brows.gif
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I don't think he have...my guess la....
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Homer climb like snail everyday wub.gif

Today lag behind latitude yawn.gif
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post Apr 16 2014, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 16 2014, 10:48 AM)
Nope dont believe in excel and all those formula.. evaluating Fv is like evaluating fine wine.. via taste, smell and experience.  wink.gif
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But one thing I have to add....whenever calculate Intrinsic value, the most important part is understand the business enough 1st before you can do so. So you can have the confidence to believe your IV.

Just my opinion biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 16 2014, 10:55 AM)
Coma jor lah.. no need everyday see... wink.gif
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