When is it not a good idea to deward? (Ward wars)
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May 2 2014, 02:13 PM
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When is it not a good idea to deward? (Ward wars)
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May 2 2014, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(v1n0d @ May 2 2014, 02:26 PM) Before I answer that, a little preliminary info: Thanks for the advise! 1. Never ward alone (I cannot stress this enough). Ask someone to cover you while you ward. 2. It's okay to ward early! I see some pubs scolding others for placing wards too early. This is just wrong. An early ward means two things - you get to see where your enemy places their ward, and you can easily deward/catch them out of position. 3. Runespot wards are critical until the enemy tier 1 towers have been taken, after which you can move on to more aggressive warding (Radiant/Dire nc). 4. The Radiant ancient ward is arguably the most valuable warding spot in the early game. Try your best to keep vision here. Rune-dependent mids will benefit greatly from this. Now, to answer your question, the following would be bad scenarios to deward: 1. The enemy ward was just placed and you can't see the warder on the map. This means they might still be in the vicinity and may gank you as you attempt to deward. 2. You just lost a war. Leave dewarding to after winning a war. It can be quickly done while you push. 3. Knowledge of the ward can be used against your enemies. If you know a ward is in the area, you may be able to bait a gank from the enemy. |
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May 3 2014, 07:23 AM
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I wounder what went wrong for enemy team ?
This was one of the games that the person that demanded mid (Venge) didn't feed the enemy mid http://dotabuff.com/matches/638799319 Early game they very aggressive wanna gank me and naix with tusk,potm and pudge...bottom also got 1 Zeus not doing well Then I just keep warding, give my carries space to farm... |
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May 3 2014, 06:35 PM
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new small update?
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May 4 2014, 07:29 AM
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QUOTE(hard2k @ May 3 2014, 10:51 PM) yeah sure will do so I didn't know you are a fan of Arrow! As i wan to do this to give them encouragement coz they actually have potential to go further in scene. My motif is to show them that they have fan that want them to succes so by doing this hopefully will encouraged them Maybe can ask them what they think about 6.81 patch ? |
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May 4 2014, 04:50 PM
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Any comments on my BH ?
http://dotabuff.com/matches/640652559 inb4 teammate problem I'm trying to play my best already...but somehow I feel something lacking When the match 1st started some1 pick pudge and the BS player go crazy...scold scold blablabla and then me and him top (off lane)...I ask him play safe he very aggressive end up always kena ganked and he always ask me for tango when he can heal with last hit, but I gave him some anyway Dazzle and PA was good, perhaps I didn't ganked a lot ? |
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May 4 2014, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(Arcisal @ May 4 2014, 05:53 PM) You should have gotten a Desolator after your Drums. Maybe replace your Bottle with an Urn since you didn't go mid and Pudge bought a Bottle already. Thanks for the response Other than that, it's probably the BS who fed them a lot. Going Force Staff and SnY first is terrible. I didn't go Deso cuz very glass cannon IMO Urn? Maybe I'll try that out. |
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May 5 2014, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(v1n0d @ May 5 2014, 04:00 PM) You have a good mid-game lineup, but there's very little lockdown. Against a team with a decent selection of disables and escape mechanisms, there's not really much you can do. If I had to guess, the biggest mistake was dragging the game up to 45 minutes. PA has a very limited window of functionality, which is up to the point the enemy team picks up an MKB. The fact that she (and Pudge, for that matter) don't have BKBs is a testament to their score as well. Thanks for your review Maybe I should've pick another hero... What hero has a good lockdown that is fun to play as well ? |
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May 5 2014, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ May 5 2014, 04:22 PM) Good lockdown heroes are those with many disabling spells. Lion, Rhasta, ES, etc... Best is Silencer and Doom... Lion and Rhasta really nice disables...but somehow I feel they very easy to die... Doom very single target Ok, maybe I'll try ES/Silencer. For Silencer what skill/item build do You go ? QUOTE(v1n0d @ May 5 2014, 04:26 PM) Actually, BH was a decent pick. A mid-game lineup means you'll have plenty of opportunity to gank and farm up track gold. Your team had only one reliable disable (dismember), and since Pudge didn't pick up a BKB against a stun-heavy lineup, that's pretty much down the drain. Could there be a better pick ? Try Clock. His hook isn't too difficult to hit, and the low cd means you can gank often. An excellent pickup if the opposite team has a melee carry. Yeah I always track enemy when ganking so more gold. For clock what is the optimal skill build ? Agha good on clock ? QUOTE(jeffng89 @ May 5 2014, 04:29 PM) Actually I like bane his solo mid very strong IMO, but then when enemy 5 man it's really hard. He lack AOE. This post has been edited by 5p3ak: May 5 2014, 07:36 PM |
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May 6 2014, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(Arcisal @ May 5 2014, 09:48 PM) You should get 1 level of your Q, W and E by level 3. After that 9 times out of 10 you max your Q (Battery Assault) first, followed by Rockets and then finally cogs. Always take cogs at level 1. Boots of Speed then Finish Urn or finish phase then go urn ? Aghanims is good on Clock, but you should not rush it. A Clock with Boots and Aghanims is useless compared to a Clock with Boots, Force Staff, Drums and Urn. 12 second ulti is nice, but it will be a very long time before you can start spamming it. My usual itembuild is Phase > Urn (Bottle) > Drums > Force Staff (Blademail). Everything after that is situational. You can go straight for Aghanims or you can get Necrobook, Orchid, Hex, BKB or Heaven's Halberd. Just get whatever your team needs the most. Clockwerk should be the one that goes in first right during team battle? QUOTE(jeffng89 @ May 6 2014, 11:31 AM) 5p3ak Clock very nice hero , on early + mid game but not so good if late game . Scepter is a must get items on Clock I think , that 12 scd hookshot is wicked sicked . Stout shield > Shoes(Can choose between phase/tranquility) > Urn > Wood magic Sticks(not really)/Bottles > Rush for scepter . Try to move around and gank after getting boots and Urn , get smoke + TP . http://dotabuff.com/players/101404949/matc...gion=&duration= |
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May 7 2014, 10:30 AM
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You guys should try blink on Tusk...damn 4 sec team phase shift
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May 7 2014, 10:34 AM
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May 7 2014, 10:57 AM
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May 7 2014, 12:21 PM
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May 7 2014, 03:58 PM
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May 8 2014, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(~min~ @ May 7 2014, 11:48 PM) there your answer Meh just make sure you have a reason./k dotard are more friendly. when party or lobby if feed or lose no one scold. scold also friendly 1 no one act like omg omg im the best so you should listen to me!! something like that, thats why more active <-----omg, im the 1 scold team alot srsly I see some pub players just simply scold...just because of item build/skill build then start to judge people I still remember last time a few versions ago when Charles Blakely Huskar was possible got some others see me get ghost then say noob ...etc end up ? |
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May 10 2014, 06:30 PM
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May I ask what courier thingy you guys talking about ? I am lost
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May 10 2014, 07:11 PM
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May 12 2014, 06:39 PM
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May 12 2014, 07:34 PM
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What do you guys think of
Dual mid ? Solo Offlane and dual safe ? |
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