Thank you both!
Will try some experimental plays tonight.

This post has been edited by AutoKing93: May 6 2014, 10:58 PM

is sea server so bad right now?

been experiencing bad delays for the whole night.

AutoKing93
You're welcome , and do please don't be shy to ask if you have any problem or question .
Please do share us your experiences too .

what i(pugna) can do to counter sky bm?
he reflect my ward like shizzz.
i purposely pick pugna to shut down sky, but in the end im the one who being shut down and not able to fight.
he bm, ulti, few skill, i die.

^uhh to counter sky, jst pick bristle or slardar or any heroes that can burst him down. he's so fragile like paper. one stun, he's gone.


sigh, no new heroes until ti4 ends right? doubt they will releae a hero now as it's ti4 season

150 ms after 7 pm .

hihi. pugna ward is pain in the behind for sky.
but i never imagine he go bm just to counter my ward. haizzzz

You can burst him down , just buy 3 vitality boosters , see who can stand the damage and who'll win .

You guys should try blink on Tusk...damn 4 sec team phase shift

Then a wild Magnataur has appeared , ulti > pull back > + meepos with scepter Poooooffffff .
Okay good night guys .

actually tusk with meepo also quite fun

As I see it, there are only three reasons to pick up a Midas:
1. Your hero is exp/level dependent and the rest of your lineup has what it takes to buy you time to farm a core item after a Midas. For example, going Midas on a jungle Doom is a bad idea if your hard carry is an AM as you're forcing your team to play 3v4 or 3v5 for longer than necessary.
2. You had a great early game, allowing for a speedy Midas pickup. In a freefarming lane, I can usually pick one up at the 4 minute mark. Anything past 8 minutes is rather slow, and should only be picked up if;
3. An enemy player has already picked up a Midas, and your lineup doesn't allow for early push. Here, the Midas is picked up so that your farm can stay on par with the enemy team.

I respectfully disagree. Clock is a snowball hero, and he scales pretty well. The general mistake people make is they take bad fights (eg. hookshot into the entire team 1v5). If the enemy team can get a level/item advantage over clock, he's a sitting duck after cogs. This is also why Arcisal mentioned a force staff as a core pickup on clock. Although he's a great initiator, I believe his true strength is being able to split the enemy team apart, allowing for pickoffs within a war. This is useful against teams that stick to sustain, eg. you can zone out a Dazzle from casting grave on his carry.

For theorycrafting and/or trolling purposes, yes. It's also a useful item when you have a team full of a$$holes who pick 4 more carries despite you picking AM first (I remember seeing a page 1 EU game where the AM picked up tranquils, mek, vlad, and necro). If you're the main damage source, then it's not exactly a good idea.

Blademail is magic damage, buy a BKB and your problems are settled. It's worth mentioning that if his first item is blademail, you will always survive the return damage because your base str is higher.

Edit: My bad, Skywrath has a higher base str and gain compared to Pugna, so you'll suffer until you get that BKB up.

This post has been edited by v1n0d: May 7 2014, 10:48 AM

well. most of the time. sky and i will die at the same time during war.
it seems that he is okai to suicide to make sure im not in the team fight.

I just checked, and I was wrong about the base str and gain. Sky is tankier than Pugna, and without str items such as a bracer or a casual cloak to reduce the return damage, you will struggle until you can afford a BKB.

v1n0d
That's why the rocket for , scout first before you hookshit into 1v5 situation , other than that either you lock down the carry , try to burst down the annoying supports is a good choice too . Plus clock is really useful for anti chasing and make a wall between supports and carry .
5p3ak
I would prefer Mirana + meepo . Net + arrow + Poof / Arrow+Net +Poof instant nuke any hero .

This post has been edited by jeffng89: May 7 2014, 10:52 AM

the amount of short forms are enough to make me to use more time to understand what the heck is this.

eg: BM, SKY.

BM is what? bahasa melayu? Beast Master!? Blade Mail

Sky is Sky, if you pointing out skywrath, just use that word

This post has been edited by Agito666: May 7 2014, 10:52 AM

I use SWM for Skywarth Mage

SWM is silent wave motor in Nikon.
mostly morden AF motor

even using EOS (skadi) i sometimes rage because EOS is canon lineup

This post has been edited by Agito666: May 7 2014, 11:00 AM

Sorry, sudah biasa. I still call Daedlus as Buriza and Shadow Blade as Lothar.

SK : Sand King , Skeleton King and Soul Keeper .