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Investment SETIA ECOHILL (VERSION 8 @ HUAT AH), Inspiring Eco Township in Semenyih

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post May 6 2014, 03:15 PM

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I don't believe that a public listed company with a capable new CEO/director will fall into despair in a matter of months if not years. There surely will be check and balance in place, or else in AGM, those board of directors sure will be grilled by the shareholders.

Let's see how is SP Setia performing in the next 2 quarters before jumping to the gun to say that it is doomed, shall we?
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PNB biggest mistakes have been underestimating the contribution of TSL and his key staff in developing what SP Setia is today.

A strength of a Property Developer lies not just in its Land Banks but the brains behind what to do with the Land Banks.

Don't believe, ask SHC, they are still kicking themselves for selling the huge plot of Land that transformed SP Setia.

So, PNB thinks, hey I got the Land - you can Garpu Off.

But they underestimated TSL - I can buy 1,000 acres just next to your Development.

Current acting CEO of SP Setia, just a matter of time before he leaves to join TSL.

PNB screwed up big time here and still clueless as to what to do with SP Setia or their current Property. Just BAU
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post May 6 2014, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(KOHTT @ May 6 2014, 03:08 PM)
At least maybank don't have so many staff leaving.

SPS got few hundred staff leaving...really no eyes see....sure kelam kabut inside and poor project execution laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Are you sure Maybank don't have staff leaving when merging with Pacific bank and PhileoAllied banks back on year 2001 / 2012?

You said "sure kelam kabut in project execution", how are you so sure? Already have projects delayed or can't VP accordingly?

As a matter of fact, do you know how many staffs SPS have? How many quit and how many stay and how many new staffs are recruited? Provide more data so that we can discuss further loh..

More fresh blood come in loh, are you sure all the companies purchased by PNB is fated to fail?
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QUOTE(samkps @ May 6 2014, 03:21 PM)
Are you sure Maybank don't have staff leaving when merging with Pacific bank and PhileoAllied banks back on year 2001 / 2012?

You said "sure kelam kabut in project execution", how are you so sure? Already have projects delayed or can't VP accordingly?

As a matter of fact, do you know how many staffs SPS have? How many quit and how many stay and how many new staffs are recruited? Provide more data so that we can discuss further loh.. 

More fresh blood come in loh, are you sure all the companies purchased by PNB is fated to fail?
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Aiyo, already talked so lengthily in the V7...nah, this is the link again:

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/spsetia/45224.jsp

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At SP Setia, the question is not who will replace Liew but who will bring in 250 "foot soldiers" to replace the 250 who will quit SP Setia to mostly join Eco World.

Those 250 are the nuts and bolts of the once formidable SP Setia juggernaut..........



How come you guys can write a very good English but cannot read English properly? shakehead.gif hmm.gif
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post May 6 2014, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(KOHTT @ May 6 2014, 03:30 PM)
Aiyo, already talked so lengthily in the V7...nah, this is the link again:

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/spsetia/45224.jsp

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At SP Setia, the question is not who will replace Liew but who will bring in 250 "foot soldiers" to replace the 250 who will quit SP Setia to mostly join Eco World.

Those 250 are the nuts and bolts of the once formidable SP Setia juggernaut..........

How come you guys can write a very good English but cannot read English properly? shakehead.gif  hmm.gif
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the article was ripped off from another place.
but nevertheless we have discussed/argued about it previously in v7...
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post May 6 2014, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(KOHTT @ May 6 2014, 03:30 PM)
Aiyo, already talked so lengthily in the V7...nah, this is the link again:

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/spsetia/45224.jsp

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At SP Setia, the question is not who will replace Liew but who will bring in 250 "foot soldiers" to replace the 250 who will quit SP Setia to mostly join Eco World.

Those 250 are the nuts and bolts of the once formidable SP Setia juggernaut..........

How come you guys can write a very good English but cannot read English properly? shakehead.gif  hmm.gif
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Haiz... this post again, being showed and discussed long time already.

1.) The author from SPS HR department? How he/she knows 250 staffs will be leaving? So sure?

2.) Do you know how many staffs is in SPS? Let say even assume really 250 staffs are leaving, 250 staffs / 1250 staffs is 20%, but 250/2500 staffs is 10% woh... So, kindly tell me, how many staffs in SPS now? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(samkps @ May 6 2014, 03:43 PM)
Haiz... this post again, being showed and discussed long time already.

1.) The author from SPS HR department? How he/she knows 250 staffs will be leaving? So sure?

2.) Do you know how many staffs is in SPS? Let say even assume really 250 staffs are leaving, 250 staffs / 1250 staffs is 20%, but 250/2500 staffs is 10% woh... So, kindly tell me, how many staffs in SPS now?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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1) The author dare to put in the newspaper, it means the news is confirmed. Cannot be wrong 1.

2) According to our SPS expert raikonen1213, even more SPS staff leaving after the news has appeared in newspaper, close to 400 in total. sweat.gif

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post May 6 2014, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ May 6 2014, 03:15 PM)
PNB biggest mistakes have been underestimating the contribution of TSL and his key staff in developing what SP Setia is today.

A strength of a Property Developer lies not just in its Land Banks but the brains behind what to do with the Land Banks.

Don't believe, ask SHC, they are still kicking themselves for selling the huge plot of Land that transformed SP Setia.

So, PNB thinks, hey I got the Land - you can Garpu Off.

But they underestimated TSL - I can buy 1,000 acres just next to your Development.

Current acting CEO of SP Setia, just a matter of time before he leaves to join TSL.

PNB screwed up big time here and still clueless as to what to do with SP Setia or their current Property.  Just BAU
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CFA gor, I don't have crystal ball, I can't predict how SPS will go in future.

The only facts I know, there are some company under PNB working pretty well, and some are working pretty bad. I dunno whether SPS will be the former one or latter one.. I just strongly oppose the statement, everything under PNB will die..

However, there is one thing is very sure - in SPS, LKS buy land in Semenyih/Beranang, even after going to EcoWorld, they also bought a big land next to SPS. That's proves one thing, LKS and his team see the potential of Semenyih/Beranang area. Those people who believe Semenyih/Beranang project will be a failure also actually questioning the credibility of LKS and his team...

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QUOTE(samkps @ May 6 2014, 03:43 PM)
Haiz... this post again, being showed and discussed long time already.

1.) The author from SPS HR department? How he/she knows 250 staffs will be leaving? So sure?

2.) Do you know how many staffs is in SPS? Let say even assume really 250 staffs are leaving, 250 staffs / 1250 staffs is 20%, but 250/2500 staffs is 10% woh... So, kindly tell me, how many staffs in SPS now?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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As at 2013, SP Setia has about 1,500 staff

http://mystarjob.com/articles/story.aspx?f...job_careerguide

250 / 1500 = 16.7%, is quite a lot actually.
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QUOTE(KOHTT @ May 6 2014, 03:52 PM)
1) The author dare to put in the newspaper, it means the news is confirmed. Cannot be wrong 1.

2) According to our SPS expert  raikonen1213, even more SPS staff leaving after the news has appeared in newspaper, close to 400.  sweat.gif
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your statement number 1 i have to strongly disagree.
There's so many useless newspapers out there that is talking nonsense, so are you saying all news in the so called newspaper is newsworthy?
While it might be true, but saying it is confirmed and cannot be wrong is misleading.


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post May 6 2014, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(KOHTT @ May 6 2014, 03:52 PM)
1) The author dare to put in the newspaper, it means the news is confirmed. Cannot be wrong 1.

2) According to our SPS expert  raikonen1213, even more SPS staff leaving after the news has appeared in newspaper, close to 400.  sweat.gif
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1.) That's not a news, that's personal opinion article. Only can become news if SPS officially announce there are 250 staffs leaving.

2.) Lol, not offense, your buddy whether is a man or a lady I also not sure, how I can sure about the info he/she provide? If he is so powerful, perhaps can show show some official statistics about staff overflow in SPS?
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What most people fail to see is the potential of Semenyih, Kajang and Bangi corridor.
This area is lacking of investment and has a huge population untapped.

The distance to certain area is definitely good for example, Cyberjaya Putrajaya, Seri Kembangan etc.

If I work in the southern part of KV, I don't need to stay in the northern part, hence this Semenyih, Kajang, Bangi area is an attractive proposition for me.
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QUOTE(samkps @ May 6 2014, 03:53 PM)
CFA gor, I don't have crystal ball, I can't predict how SPS will go in future.

The only facts I know, there are some company under PNB working pretty well, and some are working pretty bad. I dunno whether SPS will be the former one or latter one..  I just strongly oppose the statement, everything under PNB will die.. 

However, there is one thing is very sure -  in SPS, LKS buy land in Semenyih/Beranang, even after going to EcoWorld, they also bought a big land next to SPS. That's proves one thing, LKS and his team see the potential of Semenyih/Beranang area. Those people who believe Semenyih/Beranang project will be a failure also actually questioning the credibility of LKS and his team...
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Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against PNB nor am I a fan of SP Setua, EcoWorld, TSL. I am a poor fag, cannot buy such premium properties.

Just that PNB handled the entire takeover of SP Setia very badly, right from the start and until now. They have no plan on what to do with their Prop Biz or SP Setia. They allow their potential biggest competitor to remain on the Board / Mgmt until his last day and until now, TSL is still Chairman of Battersea.

Hello - Wake UP Guys, He is your Prime Competitor now.

U do not takeover a company without a solid biz plan. If not for Property being a scarce resources and in high demand, such company after taken over will surely gulung tikar.


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post May 6 2014, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ May 6 2014, 03:57 PM)
1.) That's not a news, that's personal opinion article. Only can become news if SPS officially announce there are 250 staffs leaving.

2.) Lol, not offense, your buddy whether is a man or a lady I also not sure, how I can sure about the info he/she provide? If he is so powerful, perhaps can show show some official statistics about staff overflow in SPS?
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LOL. He is not my buddy lah. But from from the knowledge that he shared in this thread, no doubt he is the SPS expert. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(robert82 @ May 6 2014, 03:58 PM)
What most people fail to see is the potential of Semenyih, Kajang and Bangi corridor.
This area is lacking of investment and has a huge population untapped.

The distance to certain area is definitely good for example, Cyberjaya Putrajaya, Seri Kembangan etc.

If I work in the southern part of KV, I don't need to stay in the northern part, hence this Semenyih, Kajang, Bangi area is an attractive proposition for me.
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oh.. no wonder your version lies in SEH...understand gehh..
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 6 2014, 04:00 PM)
oh.. no wonder your version lies in SEH...understand gehh..
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that's what i have explained long ago.
Not every soul in this KV works in KLCC area.
alot more people work in other parts of KV.
We don't need to travel to KLCC all the time.

What suits you might not suit others, and vice versa.


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QUOTE(cfa28 @ May 6 2014, 03:54 PM)
As at 2013, SP Setia has about 1,500 staff

http://mystarjob.com/articles/story.aspx?f...job_careerguide

250 / 1500 = 16.7%, is quite a lot actually.
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Lol, that means still lack of 20%... Quite alot? That's mean still more than 80% of staffs are working in the same company and recruitment is keep on going. I do not deny it will somehow affect the operation temporary, while waiting the people to come in. But will this company in chaotic situation with 80% staffs still working?


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QUOTE(samkps @ May 6 2014, 04:03 PM)
Lol, that means still lack of 20%... Quite alot? That's mean still more than 80% of staffs are working in the same company and recruitment is keep on going. I do not deny it will somehow affect the operation temporary, while waiting the people to come in. But will this company in chaotic situation with 80% staffs still working?
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Hello, someone failed to read and understand English properly again...How come ah?? hmm.gif

Those 250 are the nuts and bolts of the once formidable SP Setia juggernaut..........
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QUOTE(KOHTT @ May 6 2014, 04:00 PM)
LOL. He is not my buddy lah. But from from the knowledge that he shared in this thread, no doubt he is the SPS expert.  thumbup.gif
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Haha... you sure now he is SPS expert? Not EW expert? Anyhow, he even condamn EW is an enethical company, perhaps is an SPS / EW grudge expert.... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(KOHTT @ May 6 2014, 04:06 PM)
Hello, someone failed to read and understand English properly again...How come ah?? hmm.gif

Those 250 are the nuts and bolts of the once formidable SP Setia juggernaut..........
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Lol, every staff also nut and bot lah, any staff in the company is dispensable?? doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(samkps @ May 6 2014, 04:06 PM)
Haha... you sure now he is SPS expert?  Not EW expert?  Anyhow, he even condamn EW is an enethical company, perhaps is an SPS / EW grudge expert....  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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ai ya...better than u all lah.

everyday cupid cupid with cheryee...Setia Alam got only 1 thread. SEH got 8 threads wor!!! All the unconstructive love stories. ohmy.gif

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