QUOTE(buysellaccount @ Mar 18 2014, 09:37 AM)
no budgetttt.their budget for an episode can cover a whole season of drama in Malaysia.
plus most of the talented tend to work in commercial line where the pay is better.
why do korean movies cinematography looks so good?
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Mar 18 2014, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(buysellaccount @ Mar 18 2014, 09:37 AM) no budgetttt.their budget for an episode can cover a whole season of drama in Malaysia. plus most of the talented tend to work in commercial line where the pay is better. |
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Mar 18 2014, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Mar 18 2014, 09:50 AM) if you watch enough Asian TV & Drama, you'd realize in Drama except Japan, most uses very sharp lens with little bukake effects, the object & background are both clear, this really takes away the focus. People always think the Sharper the image the better, but not really the case. kawan, normal fps is 24 or 25 fps. 30 is normally for animation. And 60hz and 100hz got nothing to do with fps. It's just the TV rate with imho dont make a difference to Me.notice Hollywood movies they purposely make the screen abit blurry by adding noise etc so the image looks more natural, only those B-Movies look sharp all the way. also higher FPS doesn't mean better, Movies purposely stick to 30fps to make things go slower, if you look at those demo Bluray they boost the fps to 60Hz or 100Hz, everything looks strange, like it's no longer a movie but you are watching them taking the shots beside, everthing looks real but awkward that you don't feel like you are watching a movie. the hobbit are one of the first film to release 50fps digitally, so i dont think what u said got anything to do with It. |
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Mar 18 2014, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Mar 18 2014, 10:17 AM) dude the hobbit is 48fps, there are demos purposely made for higher than 48fps to showcase the tv technology, which result is more realistic but less cinematic feel. sorry kawan yup it's 48fps.frequency = fps, whether it's accelerated or not is another story. but fps = frequency?? I donno what u talking. |
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Mar 18 2014, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Mar 18 2014, 10:23 AM) also don't simply think that movies using 24fps, is showing you 24fps, they could have reduced their fps by putting in clone frames so the movement is more cinematic than realistic, while i believe normal asian dramas shows pretty much their default fps with no modifications, that is another reason why soap operas look realistic like you looking at your macik next door while US/Japan dramas have more of a cinematic feel. kawannn, 24 fps IS the movie frame rate. If u shot using film then that is the rate.and doesn't matter they reduce the frame rate or not but end product they still want it to be 24fps. people in production shot something with the end product in mind, they shot 50fps, 120 fps or even higher ie. with phantom because of certain effect. and if we purely talking about movie, only the hobbit is release in 48fps. |
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Mar 18 2014, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Mar 18 2014, 10:26 AM) do you even know the basics of how TV works? kawan itu iz tv. Nothing to do with camera. U shot la 120fps ke apa pipu will broadcast in 24/25fps.Frequency is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit time. The hertz (symbol Hz) is the unit of frequency in the International System of Units (SI). It is defined as one cycle per second. 60hz = 60 frame per second (fps). because u said iz camera so tak kisah shot is what rate but later in post change to to 24/25fps the setting lor kawan. |
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Mar 18 2014, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Mar 18 2014, 10:38 AM) well i'm not sure local dramas uses what fps when released, but it's definately higher than 24fps, this is why Local dramas doesn't look cinematic, they also don't apply bukakeness in their shots so that makes it look cheap. Koreans is still behind Japan, but is probably no.2 in Asia. China is not bad too, but their plot & acting needs improvement, China shows usually more down to earth. HK maybe no.4, Singapore no.5, Malaysia dunno maybe no.10. kawan i also never play with my tv i donno lol. When TV playback 24fps movie, the TV still shows 60fps, but they replicate 2-3fps for each fps of the movie so to our eyes it's still look like 24fps whereas in actual there's 60fps, so meaning movie producers can use same technique to fill up their 24fps, to make the movie look even slower and more cinematic. Higher FPS = more realistic but less cinematic. all i know is for asterok, teebeetiga or teebeesatu all is 24fps. Movie also iz 24fps normally laaaaaaaaaaaaaa if u see in cinema except it olang pendek mia movie. and as i said laa all iz budget one. If u got involve u see laaa the budget.in melehsia our Camera so canggih we use 10 years tarak losak mia Camera i also sooo fuyooo with them. itu bukakeness is see bajet la kawannn, no bujet use itu murah murah one. Now asterok also no accept 5D mia footage how to shot shiok shiok. |
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Mar 18 2014, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Mar 18 2014, 10:41 AM) That is Western standard, Asian standard still using this wide DOF on all their shots, drama sitcom news documentaries. kawan itu f1.2 Lens can beli a car wooo. Not cheap mia. Only movies they apply less DOF but result still meh. I 1st noticed the difference when i watched J-Drama, because somehow they just look totally different, take 2 snap shots i can immediately tell the difference, not just color tone, but DOF, lighting, framerate. It's already so many years, yet local cameraman still can't learn this simple technique. also if Fast pace drama people lari here there everywhere need focus puller some more, do 36 episode x gaji itu focus puller better makan itu wang. |
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Mar 18 2014, 10:58 AM
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Kawan itu movie look is everyone want to do but not everyone can do.
u need moneh and time. good cemera, excellent lighting, good dop, good post prod. and no one post process bokeness la kawan, itu satu minute videoX24fps=@&%$ of frame mau buat nobody do also. |
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Mar 18 2014, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Mar 18 2014, 11:06 AM) why can't you post process bukakeness? it's not as difficult as improving a shot making it look sharper, they just need to make the surroundings blurrer. itu playing with fps thing i think too complex for u, u kno some action shots are shot with super high fps cameras, so some shots in the movie actually have more frames than the others like slo-mo scenes. QUOTE(interquad @ Mar 18 2014, 10:32 AM) and doesn't matter they reduce the frame rate or not but end product they still want it to be 24fps. kawan i sudah reply lor, u Mau shot high frame rate mau ada bajet lor, ada bajet u use phantom 1000fps itu pistol pew peewwww pewwwwwwwww also u can slow down in post and see lor.people in production shot something with the end product in mind, they shot 50fps, 120 fps or even higher ie. with phantom because of certain effect. so everything is bajet. and kawan later i use movie maker see if i can adjust bokeness in post okay. |
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