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TSCable707
post Mar 17 2014, 04:30 PM, updated 12y ago

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Whaddaya know.....it V5 already!![cool.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

Thanks for the continous supports from the contributors and forumers.Now let's begin the new version!!! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif


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post Mar 17 2014, 04:32 PM

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post Mar 17 2014, 04:50 PM

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After almost 4 months,V5 already.The time flies so fast.. whistling.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Mar 17 2014, 04:53 PM

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First page? Woo. Come on with yer questions who wants some suggestions matey.
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post Mar 17 2014, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 17 2014, 04:50 PM)
After almost 4 months,V5 already.The time flies so fast.. whistling.gif  rclxm9.gif
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waa still can sell meh that old stuff? im suprised..unfortunately mobo is out already..
thats good sugestion to reimburse later..

this intel G3220 is good enough for max setting diablo n dota2 without any problem?
thanks in advance for ur much help.. smile.gif
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post Mar 17 2014, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(sinbei @ Mar 17 2014, 05:02 PM)
waa still can sell meh that old stuff? im suprised..unfortunately mobo is out already..
thats good sugestion to reimburse later..

this intel G3220 is good enough for max setting diablo n dota2 without any problem?
thanks in advance for ur much help.. smile.gif
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Did you run Diablo3 and Dota2 without problem with your old CPU?Cause the G3220 is better than the one u have.. tongue.gif
Well that sucks,but if u sell the CPU,it'll cover almost all but RM6.. nod.gif

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post Mar 17 2014, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 17 2014, 05:09 PM)
Did you run Diablo3 and Dota2 without problem with your old CPU?Cause the G3220 is better than the one u have.. tongue.gif
Well that sucks,but if u sell the CPU,it'll cover almost all but RM6.. nod.gif
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OK OK OK
that's good enough to hear, I think the more I ask the more kene sindir...lol

thanks bro!

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post Mar 17 2014, 05:20 PM

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If people want to check if their CPUs or GPUs are "good enough", or require upgrading to balance with the new parts, then one place I have always found useful are the CPU and GPU bench data at Anandtech:

http://www.anandtech.com/Bench/CPU/2
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/815
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QUOTE(sinbei @ Mar 17 2014, 05:14 PM)
OK OK OK
that's good enough to hear, I think the more I ask the more kene sindir...lol

thanks bro!
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Hehe your welcome. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 17 2014, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 17 2014, 05:20 PM)
If people want to check if their CPUs or GPUs are "good enough", or require upgrading to balance with the new parts, then one place I have always found useful are the CPU and GPU bench data at Anandtech:

http://www.anandtech.com/Bench/CPU/2
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/815
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cannot find intel G3220 shakehead.gif
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post Mar 17 2014, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 17 2014, 05:20 PM)
If people want to check if their CPUs or GPUs are "good enough", or require upgrading to balance with the new parts, then one place I have always found useful are the CPU and GPU bench data at Anandtech:

http://www.anandtech.com/Bench/CPU/2
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/815
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Another one is techPowerup.. brows.gif
Here's an example of Powercolor R9 290X PCS+ 4GB GDDR5 review.There's even a list of games on how many FPS does this GPU gets on Max Settings 1080p Battlefield 4.All you've to do is click the page button(U need to scroll the page first tongue.gif),then click on which game that u want to see the GPU's FPS etc compared to others.
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/..._290X_PCS_Plus/
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post Mar 17 2014, 05:36 PM

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I don't log into LYN for awhile and BOOM! V5!

Congrats! rclxms.gif
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post Mar 17 2014, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(sinbei @ Mar 17 2014, 05:24 PM)
cannot find intel G3220  shakehead.gif
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If u want to compare CPU vs CPU,search up in example:"Intel Core i3 4130 vs AMD FX6300".If u see a link which includes http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/351/AMD_F...i3_i3-4130.html
Then that's it. smile.gif
Here's Intel G3220 vs AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600 http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/12/AMD_At...Core_G3220.html
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post Mar 17 2014, 07:31 PM

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[Budget] - around RM2000, but trying to get as cheap as possible
[Purpose] - distributed rendering NODE - CPU rendering

I had in mind the following stuff, just looking for any constructive input. hmm.gif
I am wondering if best just get FX8320 which cost around RM530 and overclock it?
I don't have much experience on CPU matter.

Fractal Design Core1000 mATX chassis - RM170 (I like the minimalistic of it)
AMD FX8350 AM3+ 4.2Ghz OctaCore - RM669
Asrock 960GC-GS mATX AM3+ mobo - RM179 (oh Gawd why no ITX board... cry.gif )
Corsair 550W VS550 PSU - RM209 (in case of expand GPU and stuff)
CoolerMaster Hyper 212X CPU cooler - RM125
Western Digital 1TB HDD - RM189
Kingston KVR 8Gb x2 DDR3 1600 - RM490 (12GB is bare minimum...)
Cheap USB Wi-Fi dongle - RM29

RM2060
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post Mar 17 2014, 07:33 PM

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Hey! Congrats on V5!

My SAMSUNG 2033SW has officially kaput.. Now it got some vertical lines after idk maybe 4 years of service.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824001313

Im looking at something presumably the same specs. What monitor would you guys recommend? Budget is just about RM 400 maybe? haha thx


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post Mar 17 2014, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(M1X @ Mar 17 2014, 07:31 PM)
[Budget] - around RM2000, but trying to get as cheap as possible
[Purpose] - distributed rendering NODE - CPU rendering

I had in mind the following stuff, just looking for any constructive input.  hmm.gif
I am wondering if best just get FX8320 which cost around RM530 and overclock it?
I don't have much experience on CPU matter.

Fractal Design Core1000 mATX chassis - RM170 (I like the minimalistic of it)
AMD FX8350 AM3+ 4.2Ghz OctaCore - RM669
Asrock 960GC-GS mATX AM3+ mobo - RM179 (oh Gawd why no ITX board...  cry.gif )
Corsair 550W VS550 PSU - RM209 (in case of expand GPU and stuff)
CoolerMaster Hyper 212X CPU cooler - RM125
Western Digital 1TB HDD - RM189
Kingston KVR 8Gb x2 DDR3 1600 - RM490 (12GB is bare minimum...)
Cheap USB Wi-Fi dongle - RM29

RM2060
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Try these :

Intel Core i7 4770 3.4GHz RM929
Asrock B85M-ITX mainboard RM289
Kingston KVR1600MHz 8GB RM239
FSP Hexa 500W PSU RM149
CM Elite 110 ITX case RM135
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM189

Total - RM1930.00
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post Mar 17 2014, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Hyph @ Mar 17 2014, 07:33 PM)
Hey! Congrats on V5!

My SAMSUNG 2033SW has officially kaput.. Now it got some vertical lines after idk maybe 4 years of service.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824001313

Im looking at something presumably the same specs. What monitor would you guys recommend? Budget is just about RM 400 maybe? haha thx
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Better go for full HD monitor(21.5") since you can afford one.
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post Mar 17 2014, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(M1X @ Mar 17 2014, 07:31 PM)
[Budget] - around RM2000, but trying to get as cheap as possible
[Purpose] - distributed rendering NODE - CPU rendering

I had in mind the following stuff, just looking for any constructive input.  hmm.gif
I am wondering if best just get FX8320 which cost around RM530 and overclock it?
I don't have much experience on CPU matter.

Fractal Design Core1000 mATX chassis - RM170 (I like the minimalistic of it)
AMD FX8350 AM3+ 4.2Ghz OctaCore - RM669
Asrock 960GC-GS mATX AM3+ mobo - RM179 (oh Gawd why no ITX board...  cry.gif )
Corsair 550W VS550 PSU - RM209 (in case of expand GPU and stuff)
CoolerMaster Hyper 212X CPU cooler - RM125
Western Digital 1TB HDD - RM189
Kingston KVR 8Gb x2 DDR3 1600 - RM490 (12GB is bare minimum...)
Cheap USB Wi-Fi dongle - RM29

RM2060
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Wrong choice on the CPU and board. For FX-8xxx builds, it is recommended to get an ATX board, mainly the fact that only ATX boards have proper VRMs for powering the CPU. Note that a weak VRM would throttle the CPU, and in rare cases, causes the VRM to fail. The only way to do so is to go with a Xeon/i7 build, as they have much lower power requirements.

The power requirements of FX CPUs (especially FX-8xxx series CPUs) are very high and generally requires very robust VRMs, and robust VRMs usually require a lot of space on the motherboard, unless motherboard manufacturers do this:
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Mar 17 2014, 07:52 PM)
Wrong choice on the CPU and board.  For FX-8xxx builds, it is recommended to get an ATX board, mainly the fact that only ATX boards have proper VRMs for powering the CPU.  Note that a weak VRM would throttle the CPU, and in rare cases, causes the VRM to fail.  The only way to do so is to go with a Xeon/i7 build, as they have much lower power requirements.
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I see hmm.gif didn't know there will be such hardware issue. Definitely need a reliable system as it can be stressing for days.
Yes I also trying to keep it small so was thinking about ITX.
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QUOTE(M1X @ Mar 17 2014, 07:55 PM)
I see  hmm.gif  didn't know there will be such hardware issue. Definitely need a reliable system as it can be stressing for days.
Yes I also trying to keep it small so was thinking about ITX.
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Also, do take some time reading this:
http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-moth...m-info-database

VRM throttling/failures is no joke, though. There are several members who encountered VRM throttling issues. Here's some: tongue.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3068076/all (System freezes, when the CPU is loaded using Prime95, most likely VRM throttling)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3078942/all (MSI 970A-G43, very well-known for problematic VRMs, causes FX-8350 to throttle)

Even our moderator goldfries he wrecked his MSI 790FX-GD70 (due to VRM failure) with a Phenom II x6 1100T... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Mar 17 2014, 07:57 PM)
VRM throttling/failures is no joke, though.  There are several members who encountered VRM throttling issues.  Here's some: tongue.gif
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Thanks for info notworthy.gif

How about ITX board like Asrock B85M-ITX mainboard posted by cable707 above? (2x DIMM slots though, should be suffice)
Is it reliable to keep 4770 running and don't have any crazy issue?

mATX maybe still OK, considering ITX chassis may cost a little most after all. But both form factor are possible choices regardless.
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QUOTE(M1X @ Mar 17 2014, 08:13 PM)
Thanks for info  notworthy.gif

How about ITX board like Asrock B85M-ITX mainboard posted by cable707 above? (2x DIMM slots though, should be suffice)
Is it reliable to keep 4770 running and don't have any crazy issue?

mATX maybe still OK, considering ITX chassis may cost a little most after all. But both form factor are possible choices regardless.
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Intel CPUs are fine with that motherboard.. wink.gif
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hello all.. : )

[Budget]
RM2500 - 3000

[Purpose]
Mostly for gaming, with occasional 2D/3D work

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
- Thinking of reusing my HDD from my current PC, since all my data is in here. (Do I need to reformat it? )
- is is possible to reuse my DVDRW drive? Currently using a Dell Inspiron 545 CPU

[Monitor resolution]
1600 x 900

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Guild Wars 2, LoL, Blade & Soul, PSO2, Titanfall (planning to get), Photoshop, Maya, Unity3D.

[Personal preferences]
Mainly for gaming. Planning to get a SSD.. can it work together with HDD?

[Location]
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Thank you in advanced!

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QUOTE(hikari151 @ Mar 18 2014, 12:17 AM)
hello all.. : )

[Budget]
RM2500 - 3000

[Purpose]
Mostly for gaming, with occasional 2D/3D work

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
- Thinking of reusing my HDD from my current PC, since all my data is in here. (Do I need to reformat it? )
- is is possible to reuse my DVDRW drive? Currently using a Dell Inspiron 545 CPU

[Monitor resolution]
1600 x 900

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Guild Wars 2, LoL, Blade & Soul, PSO2, Titanfall (planning to get), Photoshop, Maya, Unity3D.

[Personal preferences]
Mainly for gaming. Planning to get a SSD.. can it work together with HDD?

[Location]
PJ
Thank you in advanced!
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yes you can re-use your old HDD and your dvd player (can refer here : http://www.wikihow.com/Install-a-DVD-Drive ) , add an SSD for your OS and your 3D work programs (autodesk maya, adobe photoshop, adobe after effects etc) and another hard disk for extra storage.

CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo-Asrock B85M Pro-4-RM279
GPU-Gainward GTX 760 2GB-RM799
Memory-Gskill Value Ram 1X8GB-RM239
SSD-Plextor M5S 128GB-RM299
HDD-WD Blue 1TB-RM189
PSU-FSP Raider 550W-RM239
Case-CM K380-RM149

total-RM2972
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post Mar 18 2014, 01:07 AM

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nicee for v5, been following this thread eventhough i bought my rig biggrin.gif
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Grats for V5 rclxms.gif

Still learning in this fields, thanks in advance for your help nod.gif

[Budget] 3k-3.5k

[Purpose]
- Dual booting (Win & Linux Server),
- Web Development
- Network Forensic/Hacking
- Program/App Development (Coding/Programming)
- Multitasking
- Other typical purpose: Downloading, Light-Gaming, Light Photoshop

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Start from scratch.

[Monitor resolution] Suitable for dual-screen

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Packet Tracer, Eclipse, Google Chrome(w/ a lot of tab), uTorrent, DOTA2

[Personal preferences] Whichever value for money. 2nd hand part can be consider.

[Location] Doesn't matter. Can travel.

P/S: Let me know if my budget is too tight

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I have built a few systems using AMD, including the FX series CPUs, with the intention to save a few bucks, but the reliability of AMD systems are still way below Intel, not just only due to the CPU's higher heat, but the chipset/motherboard as well.

If you are planning to run your PCs 24/7, please consider using Intel CPUs, and quality motherboards, instead of AMD.
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Mar 18 2014, 01:05 AM)
yes you can re-use your old HDD and your dvd player (can refer here : http://www.wikihow.com/Install-a-DVD-Drive ) , add an SSD for your OS and your 3D work programs (autodesk maya, adobe photoshop, adobe after effects etc) and another hard disk for extra storage.

CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo-Asrock B85M Pro-4-RM279
GPU-Gainward GTX 760 2GB-RM799
Memory-Gskill Value Ram 1X8GB-RM239
SSD-Plextor M5S 128GB-RM299
HDD-WD Blue 1TB-RM189
PSU-FSP Raider 550W-RM239
Case-CM K380-RM149

total-RM2972
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May I ask why Xeon E3 over i5 / i7? Do you think I can skip the 1TB HDD since I plan to reuse my old one? (1TB as well)

thanks again thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(capitalFlynn @ Mar 18 2014, 07:46 AM)
Grats for V5  rclxms.gif

Still learning in this fields, thanks in advance for your help  nod.gif

[Budget] 3k-3.5k

[Purpose]
- Dual booting (Win & Linux Server),
- Web Development
- Network Forensic/Hacking
- Program/App Development (Coding/Programming)
- Multitasking
- Other typical purpose: Downloading, Light-Gaming, Light Photoshop

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Start from scratch.

[Monitor resolution] Suitable for dual-screen

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Packet Tracer, Eclipse, Google Chrome(w/ a lot of tab), uTorrent, DOTA2

[Personal preferences] Whichever value for money. 2nd hand part can be consider.

[Location] Doesn't matter. Can travel.

P/S: Let me know if my budget is too tight
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CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo-Asrock H87M-Pro-4-RM319
Memory-Gskill Value ram 2x8GB-RM478
GPU-Leadtek GTX 750 ti 2GB-RM569
SSD-Samsung 840 EVo 250GB-RM569 or you can use two 128GB SSD's for raid
HDD-Seagate Barracuda 3TB-RM379
PSU-FSP Hexa 500w-RM149
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Case-CM N300-RM149

total-RM3450
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post Mar 18 2014, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(hikari151 @ Mar 18 2014, 08:27 AM)
May I ask why Xeon E3 over i5 / i7? Do you think I can skip the 1TB HDD since I plan to reuse my old one? (1TB as well)

thanks again  thumbup.gif
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The Xeon is an i7 in disguise with lower clock and no IGP. If you think you don't need a new 1 ( HDD ) , yes.
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QUOTE(hikari151 @ Mar 18 2014, 08:27 AM)
May I ask why Xeon E3 over i5 / i7? Do you think I can skip the 1TB HDD since I plan to reuse my old one? (1TB as well)

thanks again  thumbup.gif
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the Xeon e3 is basically an i7 without onboard gpu and has slightly lower cpu clock rate but in all in all it's almost the same. Yes you can skip it, with that extra budget you can add another stick of 8gb memory or upgrade the gpu (probably gtx 760 with non reference cooler, Gainward 760 Phantom or Leadtek 760 OC for example).
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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 18 2014, 08:10 AM)
I have built a few systems using AMD, including the FX series CPUs, with the intention to save a few bucks, but the reliability of AMD systems are still way below Intel, not just only due to the CPU's higher heat, but the chipset/motherboard as well.

If you are planning to run your PCs 24/7, please consider using Intel CPUs, and quality motherboards, instead of AMD.
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Actually. no. You need to give them cooling, on the board and the CPU itself... The FX series are TDP monsters... It's too bad that AMD doesn't want to improve their FX and wants to push APUs instead...

Too bad they screwed themselves after the release of first-gen FX CPUs (aka Faildozer)... The Phenom II days were great for AMD, however. sad.gif
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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 18 2014, 08:10 AM)
I have built a few systems using AMD, including the FX series CPUs, with the intention to save a few bucks, but the reliability of AMD systems are still way below Intel, not just only due to the CPU's higher heat, but the chipset/motherboard as well.

If you are planning to run your PCs 24/7, please consider using Intel CPUs, and quality motherboards, instead of AMD.
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Doesn't matter if it's AMD or Intel bith can run 24/7, chocobo7779 is right about them FX series being hotter than Intel but not all of AMD CPUs are the same so saying that AMD isn't recommended to run 24/7 is wrong and even motherboards vary between brands and series where the quality varies.. same goes to Intel motherboards as well

Not too sure what bad experiences you have with the AMD builds you have so far but I have an Athlon 64x2 system that's still kicking till today without any major issues so far, so long as you understand what to do with them can make a difference on the longevity and behaviour of your RIG, such as giving them proper airflow and cleaning the system from time to time helps avoid overheating which by the way is the same with Intel products
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Good to hear that many of you have had good experiences in running AMD 24/7, but I guess there are some caveats, like better cooling, more maintenance, more careful part selection.

On my experience, for all the builds I have done, I have not invested in additional CPU cooling, and AMD has had more issues. Intel has been the more reliable build for me, though it is not perfect of course, just that it is more reliable.
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i was thinking does the GST gonna make the hardware price rising?

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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Mar 18 2014, 08:46 AM)
the Xeon e3 is basically an i7 without onboard gpu and has slightly lower cpu clock rate but in all in all it's almost the same. Yes you can skip it, with that extra budget you can add another stick of 8gb memory or upgrade the gpu (probably gtx 760 with non reference cooler, Gainward 760 Phantom or Leadtek 760 OC for example).
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Mar 18 2014, 11:48 AM)
i was thinking does the GST gonna make the hardware price rising?
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I do expect the GST to increase the total cost to us, as the GST is payment to the government, not to the vendor.
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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 18 2014, 01:26 PM)
I do expect the GST to increase the total cost to us, as the GST is payment to the government, not to the vendor.
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so it means better to buy now before GST apply isnt it?.

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Mar 18 2014, 02:06 PM)
so it means better to buy now before GST apply isnt it?.

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If it does increase,the question is..how many percent? tongue.gif
If you wanna chat more about GST stuffs,go to the Kopitiam section.. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 18 2014, 02:45 PM)
If it does increase,the question is..how many percent? tongue.gif
If you wanna chat more about GST stuffs,go to the Kopitiam section.. wink.gif
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doesnt mean to get off-topic, im sorry.

lets continue. nod.gif
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Mar 18 2014, 02:50 PM)
doesnt mean to get off-topic, im sorry.

lets continue. nod.gif
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If asking about what will GST do to PC hardware price is fine here.. biggrin.gif Other than PC Hardware then offtopic.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sinbei @ Mar 17 2014, 05:24 PM)
cannot find intel G3220  shakehead.gif
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sinbei, you are right ... there is no G3220 ... here is a direct review of the G3220 CPU, looks like it is not too bad:
http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-pentium-...eview_137016/13
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 15 2014, 11:41 AM)
CPU:Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3 3.3Ghz RM799
Mobo:Asrock H87 Pro4 RM319
GPU:Gainward GTX660 Golden Sample 2GB GDDR5 RM595
Ram:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM239
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM189
PSU:Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
Casing:CM K380 RM149
Total:RM2589
Optional:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
GPU is from Lingloong,the rest are from Viewnet.
Since you are doing AutoCAD,i included a Intel Xeon CPU,which is an i7 in disguise,only .1Ghz slower and no iGP.

And yeah,Seasonic have good PSUs.. brows.gif I included that Seasonic PSU,so that in the future,if u wanna upgrade your GPU,no need to upgrade your PSU. wink.gif
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thanks alot Minecrafter biggrin.gif

may i know y u choose intel Xeon unsure.gif what's the advantage over i5 chipset??
btw is it worth if i pay a little bit more for items below:

a) Seasonic S`1G-750 80+Gols
b) Gainward GTX760 phantom 2048mb GD5

thanks for the great help thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(qifa_mfeo @ Mar 18 2014, 08:36 PM)
thanks alot Minecrafter  biggrin.gif

may i know y u choose intel Xeon unsure.gif  what's the advantage over i5 chipset??
btw is it worth if i pay a little bit more for items below:

a) Seasonic S`1G-750 80+Gols
b) Gainward GTX760 phantom 2048mb GD5

thanks for the great help  thumbup.gif
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The xeon has multithreading which will help with your 3D/video editing works (this programs are cpu intensive) , best result would be getting the Sandy bridge-e/ivy bridge-e processor as they have 6 cores/12 threads , but it's far more expensive as the cpu/mobo and of course the cooling solution would add more to your budget. But the xeon would work fine too.

a) Yes Seasonic psu is the best right now, but that would cost more so better just get the S12 620w or the M12 620w as both still do the job and cost slighly cheaper plus you will still have that Seasonic brand.

b) If you can expand your budget then why not smile.gif
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QUOTE(qifa_mfeo @ Mar 18 2014, 08:36 PM)
thanks alot Minecrafter  biggrin.gif

may i know y u choose intel Xeon unsure.gif  what's the advantage over i5 chipset??
btw is it worth if i pay a little bit more for items below:

a) Seasonic S`1G-750 80+Gols
b) Gainward GTX760 phantom 2048mb GD5

thanks for the great help  thumbup.gif
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Intel Xeon has 4C/8T,the i5 has 4C/4T.Since you're doing AutoCAD works,an i7 and Intel Xeon helps because of the extra 4 Threads. nod.gif

A)Overkill..if you want Seasonic S12G,then get Seasonic S12G 80+ Gold 650W RM409.But the PSU i suggested is already enough.. tongue.gif

B)Get that GPU instead.. brows.gif The GPU i recommended is OOS atm.Not sure if there's a shop selling it or not atm.
Get it from Lingloong,he sells it at RM845... icon_idea.gif brows.gif
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I have found that SSDs improve the PC experience by quite a lot, as the HDD is often the bottleneck of the overall PC, especially when you are working with large files, or when you are turning on and turning off the PC. Even if you are gaming, level load times will reduce significantly.

The other key area to invest your ringgit is in the GPU, if you have extra budget, and you use the PC for gaming, then putting those ringgits in your GPU will also bring a significant difference to your PC experience.
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 18 2014, 02:45 PM)
If it does increase,the question is..how many percent? tongue.gif
If you wanna chat more about GST stuffs,go to the Kopitiam section.. wink.gif
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Even though it might be a small increment but if you factor the increment to full PC builds then the increment can be very substantial... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Mar 18 2014, 09:24 PM)
Even though it might be a small increment but if you factor the increment to full PC builds then the increment can be very substantial... sweat.gif
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Hopefully the increase may not be that big.. cry.gif If GST got implemented(Is that how u say it? unsure.gif ) like last year,i don't even know whether i'd get a Computer.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Mar 18 2014, 07:55 PM)
The xeon has multithreading which will help with your 3D/video editing works (this programs are cpu intensive) , best result would be getting the Sandy bridge-e/ivy bridge-e processor as they have 6 cores/12 threads , but it's far more expensive as the cpu/mobo and of course the cooling solution would add more to your budget. But the xeon would work fine too.

a) Yes Seasonic psu is the best right now, but that would cost more so better just get the S12 620w or the M12 620w as both still do the job and cost slighly cheaper plus you will still have that Seasonic brand.

b) If you can expand your budget then why not  smile.gif
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How about 2011 socket 8-core and 12-core Xeon processors? brows.gif

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QUOTE(PfftClock @ Mar 18 2014, 10:39 PM)
How about 2011 socket 8-core and 12-core Xeon processors? brows.gif
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QUOTE(PfftClock @ Mar 18 2014, 10:39 PM)
How about 2011 socket 8-core and 12-core Xeon processors? brows.gif
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Dual xeon E5 with 12 cores each ohmy.gif
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Did somebody say dual Xeons?

Summoning Lucassss..

Also please explain why you use dual xeons to only play Dota. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Did somebody say dual Xeons?

Summoning Lucassss..

Also please explain why you use dual xeons to only play Dota. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Lucassss @ Mar 19 2014, 01:57 AM)
Video above is 24C/48T. I only have 16C/32T, I don't belong here.  cry.gif
Don't la go tell everyone what I use my Xeons for.  sweat.gif
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Still faster than most here on LYN Hahahaha. tongue.gif


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Please help recommend build :-

Budget: 2-3K

Purpose: Gaming

Hardwares that will be re-use: Keyboard/Mouse/Speaker/Modem

Monitor resolution: LED 22inch min brand Samsung/Philips/LG

Games & softwares that use frequently: Company Heroes/Up coming Titanfall/Crisis 3

Personal preferences:

GPU : Readon or Nvidia? If Nvidia 760 or 750?Which one better then Gigabtye / MSI / Asus / Leadtek ? Why most people I see dont recommend asus or gigabyte ? Mostly other I seldom heard brand ?

Processor: Intel or AMD ? Not familiar with AMD if intel i5 or i7? Gigabtye/ Asus/ Asrock

Power supply: Coolmaster / Cosair / Antec / Seasonic ? Power 650w or higher ?

RAM : Hyper x ? 2x 8GB or 2x 4GB (extra ram any improvement?)

Hardisk : Seagate / Western D ?

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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Mar 18 2014, 08:42 AM)
CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo-Asrock H87M-Pro-4-RM319
Memory-Gskill Value ram 2x8GB-RM478
GPU-Leadtek GTX 750 ti 2GB-RM569
SSD-Samsung 840 EVo 250GB-RM569 or you can use two 128GB SSD's for raid
HDD-Seagate Barracuda 3TB-RM379
PSU-FSP Hexa 500w-RM149
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Case-CM N300-RM149

total-RM3450
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Sorry for the late reply.
Thanks to @alfiejr for the recommendation! rclxm9.gif

CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo-Asrock H87M Pro-4-RM319
Memory-Gskill Value ram 2x8GB-RM478
GPU-Leadtek GTX 750 ti 2GB-RM569
SSD-Samsung 840 EVo 250GB-RM569 or you can use two 128GB SSD's for raid
HDD-Seagate Barracuda 3TB-RM379
PSU-FSP Hexa 500w-RM149
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Case-CM N300-RM149

The green one are the parts that I've confirm to use. For the others, I'm still considering.

BTW, alfiejr and other sifus, it will be great if you able to justify why you recommend the parts.

As for the CPU, I would like to compare the XEON E3 1230 with OC i5 4670K.

From my readings, Xeon chipsets are more suitable for server because of hyper-threading and more L3 cache.
But what does exactly hyperthreading & L3 cache do for server?

While some people claims OC i5 will outperform Xeon.
But how?

Other things to consider: Price for mobo, future proof, resale value?
And are the price difference (i5 cheaper ~RM30) is worth for 4 cores over the on-board GPU (and 0.1 clocked lower)? Why?

As for the Mobo, why Asrock and why opt for Pro 4 instead of Performance/H87M?

Sorry for too many questions. But I hope we can have informative and educational discussion here. nod.gif
Thanks in advance.

P/S: Where can I get the parts with the price you stated?
Can recommend me which brand of monitor (for movie-watching), wireless adaptor, value kb+mouse(wired).
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 19 2014, 12:35 PM)
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QUOTE(capitalFlynn @ Mar 19 2014, 12:37 PM)
Sorry for the late reply.
Thanks to @alfiejr for the recommendation!  rclxm9.gif

CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo-Asrock H87M Pro-4-RM319
Memory-Gskill Value ram 2x8GB-RM478
GPU-Leadtek GTX 750 ti 2GB-RM569
SSD-Samsung 840 EVo 250GB-RM569 or you can use two 128GB SSD's for raid
HDD-Seagate Barracuda 3TB-RM379
PSU-FSP Hexa 500w-RM149
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Case-CM N300-RM149

The green one are the parts that I've confirm to use. For the others, I'm still considering.

BTW, alfiejr and other sifus, it will be great if you able to justify why you recommend the parts.

As for the CPU, I would like to compare the XEON E3 1230 with OC i5 4670K.

From my readings, Xeon chipsets are more suitable for server because of hyper-threading and more L3 cache.
But what does exactly hyperthreading & L3 cache do for server?

While some people claims OC i5 will outperform Xeon.
But how?

Other things to consider: Price for mobo, future proof, resale value?
And are the price difference (i5 cheaper ~RM30) is worth for 4 cores over the on-board GPU (and 0.1 clocked lower)? Why?

As for the Mobo, why Asrock and why opt for Pro 4 instead of Performance/H87M?

Sorry for too many questions. But I hope we can have informative and educational discussion here. nod.gif
Thanks in advance.

P/S: Where can I get the parts with the price you stated?
Can recommend me which brand of monitor (for movie-watching), wireless adaptor, value kb+mouse(wired).
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Xeon CPUs (they are not chipsets as what you mention above) are designed for servers, so they do not have a GPU, and have hyperthreading to run more parallel jobs, and more L3 cache to support those additional processes. Servers normally handle a lot of "processing jobs" in parallel, with multiple different clients requesting from the CPU at the same time, so the higher capability to support each job request along with the memory will make the Xeon CPU perform better in those environments.

If there are only a few threads running at the same time, like for example in computer games of today, then a faster clocked processor will finish that same job faster.

So in short, whether a Xeon or a OC i5 is faster depends on the software or program that you are using. Generally, for workstation type software (image editing, video editing, etc) that can run many jobs in parallel, or if you are running multiple programs at the same time, then Xeon will be better. If you are playing a FPS game, then an OC i5-4670K would be better.

However, for gaming, normally the bottleneck is the GPU, so in your specific example above, the GPU will most likely be the bottleneck at 1920x1080 high quality resolutions before the CPU is the bottleneck, so it is possible there will not be much of a difference when gaming between the two CPUs.

I am not familiar with Asrock motherboards, I am most familiar with Asus, and next I use Gigabyte, so I cannot really provide an opinion to you on that one.

You can buy the parts in Low Yat Plaza ... one of the best places to get computer hardware. I buy from one shop in Low Yat because I have been buying there since Low Yat Plaza started about 15 years ago, and I get very good service from the owner, and he is like a friend to me now. Any of the main shops are OK, I think.

For movie-watching, look for brands that use IPS screens, like LG, and Dell. IPS screens give good color reproduction, and although contrast is not that good, monitors from Dell give good contrast from IPS screens. I am using Dell monitors now, after going through a few brands.

Wireless adaptor is pretty standard, I normally use TP-Link for their good replacement policy, and never had an issue.

KB+Mouse I use Logitech, but I also think these are pretty standard, and any brand will do ... the more important is whether you feel comfortable with the KB/mouse or not.

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 19 2014, 01:00 PM)
You may refer to my quote to you in the previous thread. biggrin.gif
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Please help me see is these rig spec is ok ?

CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1230V3
MOBO: Asus B85M-G
RAM: GSkill AEGIS 8GB DDR3 160pMhz
SSD: Plextor M5S 128GB SSD
HHD: WD 1TB Cavier Blue
GPU: Gainward GTX760 2GB DDR5
PSU: FSP Raider 650W PSU
ODD: Liteon 24x sata DVDRW
Chasis: Xigmatek Asgard 382 Casing
Cooler: Artic cooling A13 cooler

Total: Rm3170

P.s what is the difference btw GTX 760 n OC version

Thank for help in advance

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 19 2014, 02:09 PM)
Please help me see is these rig spec is ok ?

CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1230V3
MOBO: Asus B85M-G
RAM: GSkill AEGIS 8GB DDR3 160pMhz
SSD: Plextor M5S 128GB SSD
HHD: WD 1TB Cavier Blue
GPU: Gainward GTX760 2GB DDR5
PSU: FSP Raider 650W PSU
ODD: Liteon 24x sata DVDRW
Chasis: Xigmatek Asgard 382 Casing
Cooler: Artic cooling A13 cooler

Total: Rm3170

P.s  what is the difference btw GTX 760 n OC version

Thank for help in advance
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Well to put it in a way, the OC version of the 760 is slightly better and will give you an extra fps.
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Doubleposted...

This post has been edited by Minecrafter: Mar 19 2014, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 19 2014, 02:09 PM)
Please help me see is these rig spec is ok ?

CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1230V3
MOBO: Asus B85M-G
RAM: GSkill AEGIS 8GB DDR3 160pMhz
SSD: Plextor M5S 128GB SSD
HHD: WD 1TB Cavier Blue
GPU: Gainward GTX760 2GB DDR5
PSU: FSP Raider 650W PSU
ODD: Liteon 24x sata DVDRW
Chasis: Xigmatek Asgard 382 Casing
Cooler: Artic cooling A13 cooler

Total: Rm3170

P.s  what is the difference btw GTX 760 n OC version

Thank for help in advance
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 02:20 PM)
Well to put it in a way, the OC version of the 760 is slightly better and will give you an extra fps.
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I would get Gainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 RM849 from Lingloong instead.. icon_idea.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 02:23 PM)
I would get Gainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 RM849 from Lingloong instead.. icon_idea.gif  brows.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 02:41 PM)
To me Gainward makes the sexiest cooler brows.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 02:23 PM)
I would get Gainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 RM849 from Lingloong instead.. icon_idea.gif  brows.gif
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My rig combination is it ok?
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 02:20 PM)
Well to put it in a way, the OC version of the 760 is slightly better and will give you an extra fps.
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The slightly better And extra fps is it worth the extra money ? To me the differences is quite alot
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 19 2014, 02:49 PM)
The slightly better And extra fps is it worth the extra money ? To me the differences is quite alot
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If you got the money, go for it. I think it's like 10-19[? Dunno didn't check yet] extra fps or maybe even more.
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Anybody here uses a Fan controller? Currently looking at the NZXT Sentry Mix 2, but wondering if you guys are using anything else that's nice.
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 19 2014, 02:49 PM)
The slightly better And extra fps is it worth the extra money ? To me the differences is quite alot
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It has a better cooling design,pre-OCed and can OC further(which can go as high as 13% quicker than the normal GTX760,depends on what kinda game you play)without worrying the temp..

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 19 2014, 02:09 PM)
Please help me see is these rig spec is ok ?

CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1230V3
MOBO: Asus B85M-G
RAM: GSkill AEGIS 8GB DDR3 160pMhz
SSD: Plextor M5S 128GB SSD
HHD: WD 1TB Cavier Blue
GPU: Gainward GTX760 2GB DDR5
PSU: FSP Raider 650W PSU
ODD: Liteon 24x sata DVDRW
Chasis: Xigmatek Asgard 382 Casing
Cooler: Artic cooling A13 cooler

Total: Rm3170

P.s  what is the difference btw GTX 760 n OC version

Thank for help in advance
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Your build above has Idealtech's signature all over it. laugh.gif

Very solid indeed, but what happened to your monitor? hmm.gif You require one right?
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 19 2014, 02:46 PM)
My rig combination is it ok?
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Yup it is okay! nod.gif
The CPU Cooler is optional,but if u want it,no one is stopping u.. wink.gif

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 02:52 PM)
If you got the money, go for it. I think it's like 10-19[? Dunno didn't check yet] extra fps or maybe even more.
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Between theGainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 you mentioned is single axial fan ! Some use up to 3 fan like those in gigabyte 760 ! Some are twin fan

What the differences ? Is one fan lose out cooling effect to 3 fan ?
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 19 2014, 03:12 PM)
Between theGainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 you mentioned is single axial fan ! Some use up to 3 fan like those in gigabyte 760 ! Some are twin fan

What the differences ? Is one fan lose out cooling effect to 3 fan ?
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Iinm,the GTX760 Phantom have 2 fans.
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 19 2014, 03:10 PM)
Your build above has Idealtech's signature all over it. laugh.gif

Very solid indeed, but what happened to your monitor? hmm.gif You require one right?
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Yeap I require a monitor but will take your advice
Viewsonic VX2370S 23" IPS LED

Others still thinking either take your specs or idealtech

You guys really pro thanks for help

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 19 2014, 03:16 PM)
Yeap I require a monitor but will take your advice
Viewsonic VX2370S 23" IPS LED

Others still thinking either take your specs or idealtech

You guys really pro thanks for help
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I don't consider myself as a Pro,but kinda a rookie.. tongue.gif Your welcome. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 03:21 PM)
I don't consider myself as a Pro,but kinda a rookie.. tongue.gif  Your welcome. wink.gif
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By the way they say mobo H87 is better than B85 for gaming. Is that right ? Between Leadtek and sapphire which one better ?

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 19 2014, 03:31 PM)
By the way they say mobo H87 is better than B85 for gaming. Is that right ? Between Leadtek and sapphire which one better ?
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Whoever said that...IT'S NOT true!It doesn't do any FPS increase.This is the only difference between H87 Motherboards and B85 Motherboards. wink.gif Read the comparison of a B85 and H87 motherboard.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/compare.asp?Selec...l1ty+B85+Killer

You can't really compare between those two,since Sapphire is AMD's partner(Is that how you say it? unsure.gif ),Leadtek is NVidia's partner.Sapphire have 2 Years of Warranty and Leadtek has 3 iinm.

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 03:42 PM)
Whoever said that...IT'S NOT TRUE!It doesn't do any FPS increase.This is the only difference between H87 Motherboards and B85 Motherboards.  wink.gif Read the comparison.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/compare.asp?Selec...l1ty+B85+Killer

You can't really compare between those two,since Sapphire is AMD's partner(Is that how you say it? unsure.gif ),Leadtek is NVidia's partner.
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Yeap, Leadtek,Palit,Zotac,EVGA and Gainward I think are the only manufacturers that only do Nvidia's card only. MSI,ASUS,Gigabyte do both and XFX only does Sapphire. I think hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 03:47 PM)
Yeap, Leadtek,Palit,Zotac,EVGA and Gainward I think are the only manufacturers that only do Nvidia's card only. MSI,ASUS,Gigabyte do both and XFX only does Sapphire. I think hmm.gif
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You mean XFX , Sapphire and Powercolor only does AMD. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 03:47 PM)
Yeap, Leadtek,Palit,Zotac,EVGA and Gainward I think are the only manufacturers that only do Nvidia's card only. MSI,ASUS,Gigabyte do both and XFX only does Sapphire. I think hmm.gif
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No Powercolor?!?!HIS?!These 3,XFX and Sapphire are AMD's partner. tongue.gif
Typo there? biggrin.gif How come XFX does Sapphire's? laugh.gif
I think this is the correct list of AMD's partners.
1.Powercolor
2.Asus
3.Sapphire
4.XFX
5.Gigabyte
6.MSI
7.VisionTek
8.Club3D
9.HIS
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NVidia's
1.EVGA
2.Leadtek
3.Gigabyte
4.MSI
5.Palit
6.Zotac
7.Club3D
8.Gainward

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 19 2014, 03:48 PM)
You mean XFX , Sapphire and Powercolor only does AMD.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 03:50 PM)
No Powercolor?!Club3D?!HIS?!These 3,XFX and Sapphire are AMD's partner. tongue.gif
Typo there? biggrin.gif  How come XFX does Sapphire's? laugh.gif
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Dang forgot those doh.gif Not much of a Sapphire fan so I only heard of XFX only der tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 03:50 PM)
No Powercolor?!Club3D?!HIS?!These 3,XFX and Sapphire are AMD's partner. tongue.gif
Typo there? biggrin.gif  How come XFX does Sapphire's? laugh.gif
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Typo lah bang. But seriously, haven't been liking Club3D stuff somehow. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 19 2014, 03:53 PM)
Typo lah bang. But seriously, haven't been liking Club3D stuff somehow.  hmm.gif
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I only heard of Club3D from techPowerup.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 03:42 PM)
Whoever said that...IT'S NOT true!It doesn't do any FPS increase.This is the only difference between H87 Motherboards and B85 Motherboards.  wink.gif Read the comparison of a B85 and H87 motherboard.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/compare.asp?Selec...l1ty+B85+Killer

You can't really compare between those two,since Sapphire is AMD's partner(Is that how you say it? unsure.gif ),Leadtek is NVidia's partner.Sapphire have 2 Years of Warranty and Leadtek has 3 iinm.
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Can suggestion me to take which one for mobo ? B85 or H87?
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 03:53 PM)
Dang forgot those doh.gif Not much of a Sapphire fan so I only heard of XFX only der tongue.gif
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Mar 18 2014, 10:22 PM)
workstation CPUs very expensive, not worth it man laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 03:53 PM)
Dang forgot those doh.gif Not much of a Sapphire fan so I only heard of XFX only der tongue.gif
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XFX cards are also good..but no one brings it to Malaysia.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 19 2014, 03:55 PM)
Can suggestion me to take which one for mobo ? B85 or H87?
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You can take Asrock H87 Pro4..since it only costs 40 ringgit more than Asus B85M-G and Asrock B85M-Pro4 biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 03:55 PM)
I only heard of Club3D from techPowerup.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 19 2014, 01:17 PM)
Xeon CPUs (they are not chipsets as what you mention above) are designed for servers, so they do not have a GPU, and have hyperthreading to run more parallel jobs, and more L3 cache to support those additional processes.  Servers normally handle a lot of "processing jobs" in parallel, with multiple different clients requesting from the CPU at the same time, so the higher capability to support each job request along with the memory will make the Xeon CPU perform better in those environments.

If there are only a few threads running at the same time, like for example in computer games of today, then a faster clocked processor will finish that same job faster.

So in short, whether a Xeon or a OC i5 is faster depends on the software or program that you are using.  Generally, for workstation type software (image editing, video editing, etc) that can run many jobs in parallel, or if you are running multiple programs at the same time, then Xeon will be better. If you are playing a FPS game, then an OC i5-4670K would be better.

However, for gaming, normally the bottleneck is the GPU, so in your specific example above, the GPU will most likely be the bottleneck at 1920x1080 high quality resolutions before the CPU is the bottleneck, so it is possible there will not be much of a difference when gaming between the two CPUs.

I am not familiar with Asrock motherboards, I am most familiar with Asus, and next I use Gigabyte, so I cannot really provide an opinion to you on that one.

You can buy the parts in Low Yat Plaza ... one of the best places to get computer hardware.  I buy from one shop in Low Yat because I have been buying there since Low Yat Plaza started about 15 years ago, and I get very good service from the owner, and he is like a friend to me now.  Any of the main shops are OK, I think.

For movie-watching, look for brands that use IPS screens, like LG, and Dell.  IPS screens give good color reproduction, and although contrast is not that good, monitors from Dell give good contrast from IPS screens.  I am using Dell monitors now, after going through a few brands.

Wireless adaptor is pretty standard, I normally use TP-Link for their good replacement policy, and never had an issue.

KB+Mouse I use Logitech, but I also think these are pretty standard, and any brand will do ... the more important is whether you feel comfortable with the KB/mouse or not.
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So basically I guess I will go for the Xeon CPU for the reasons.

What is the shop in LYP? The price alfiejr quote is the generally lowest among others but he doesn't mention the place.

Yeah I guess will go with Dell U series too.

Thanks again. nod.gif

Drafted specs:
CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo-Asrock H87M Pro-4-RM319
Memory-Gskill Value ram 2x8GB-RM478
GPU-Leadtek GTX 750 ti 2GB-RM569
SSD-Samsung 840 EVo 250GB-RM569 or you can use two 128GB SSD's for raid
HDD-Seagate Barracuda 3TB-RM379
PSU-FSP Hexa 500w-RM149
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Case-CM N300-RM149

Is there any reason why consider the Seagate brand for HDD?
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To me Nvidia's Beauty are from EVGA,Gainward and MSI. MSI with those Red line so smexy and EVGA and Gainward got those Black looking colour scheme....Hnggg so sexy tongue.gif [ Honorable Mentions - Asus tongue.gif ]
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 03:58 PM)
You can take Asrock H87 Pro4..since it only costs 40 ringgit more than Asus B85M-G and Asrock B85M-Pro4 biggrin.gif
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Thanks
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QUOTE(PfftClock @ Mar 19 2014, 03:56 PM)
I know it's expensive, but it's good for rendering, video editing, server thingy, etc.  thumbup.gif
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depends on his workline mah

i7 more than sufficient for those amateur levels

only when youre going professional and above, this is where youll need the best of the best wink.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 03:58 PM)
You can take Asrock H87 Pro4..since it only costs 40 ringgit more than Asus B85M-G and Asrock B85M-Pro4 biggrin.gif
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Why conisder Asrock H87 Pro4 over that two? Mind sharing?

Basically can you share what is the important factor in choosing a mobo?

Thanks Minecrafter. nod.gif

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Guys/gals, please comment on the build... ;-)

[Budget] 2.5K - 3K

[Purpose] Gaming / dualboot hackintosh

[Hardwares that will be re-use] HDD/SSD/Monitor

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Photo editing/Gaming

[Personal preferences]

{CPU} Core i5 4670
{MOBO} Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H
{RAM} 8GB 1600Mhz DDR3 -- Any ideas on this?
{PSU} Seasonic M12 II 620W PSU
{CPU cooler} Silverstone AR01 or AR03?
{GC} I'm lost on this ;-)
{Casing} Coolermaster/ Corsair?

[Location]Pg

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QUOTE(capitalFlynn @ Mar 19 2014, 04:26 PM)
Why conisder Asrock H87 Pro4 over that two? Mind sharing?

Basically can you share what is the important factor in choosing a mobo?

Thanks Minecrafter.  nod.gif
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1.It has more USB3.0 ports,which might come in handy. wink.gif
2.It has Intel Smart Response Technology,which also helps if u have an SSD.I once got "taught" by a forumer here,cause i was clueless why H87 and not B85 since this 1 guy is asking for recommendation..here's about Intel SRT.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/arc...technology.html
3.More SATA3 ports,which may also come in handy. wink.gif

Important factor in choosing Mobo eh?

1.Well,first of all,your CPU.
For example your CPU is i5 3470,which is LGA1155(IvyBridge) socket.And if you wanna buy a Mobo,it has to be LGA1155 compatible.

2.Budget also comes into play.. tongue.gif

3.What is your usage and future "plans"?Like are you gonna SLI?CfX?If the mobo have 2 SATA3 Ports,and you have 4HDD that you want to install.But you can only install 2,since there's only 2 SATA3..unless,there's 2 SATA2..but it might decrease the speed of the HDD iinm.

4.How many sticks of RAMs do you want to install?If u have 4 sticks of 4GB,but there's only 2 RAM slots,you can only install 2.And remember,nowadays,Mobos only support from 1333 upto...2400MHz without problem?I could be wrong though.

5.If you wanna SLI/CfX,you need TWO and above PCIE 3.0 Slots that runs at X16 .Which im sure Z87 and X79 Motherboards has. tongue.gif

6.If you wanna overclock,let's say i7 4770K.And you have 2 choices,Asrock B85 Killer or Asrock Z87 Extreme4.You can't overclock it on Asrock 85 Killer...because it is NOT Z87.Intel CPUs with K prefix at the back can only be Overclocked with an Z87 Motherboard..(If u're using LGA1150 CPU)

I hope i've answered your questions.The first time i got a question like this since i started recommending.. sweat.gif wink.gif
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QUOTE(Siow @ Mar 19 2014, 04:46 PM)
Guys/gals, please comment on the build... ;-)

[Budget] 2.5K - 3K

[Purpose] Gaming / dualboot hackintosh

[Hardwares that will be re-use] HDD/SSD/Monitor

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Photo editing/Gaming

[Personal preferences]

{CPU} Core i5 4670
{MOBO} Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H
{RAM} 8GB 1600Mhz DDR3  -- Any ideas on this?
{PSU} Seasonic M12 II 620W PSU
{CPU cooler} Silverstone AR01 or AR03?
{GC} I'm lost on this ;-)
{Casing} Coolermaster/ Corsair?

[Location]Pg
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May I ask, why using dual boot. Why not just use windows only? I mean if it's only Photo Edit and gaming wouldn't a Windows OS suffice? That's all I'm asking.
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 04:53 PM)
May I ask, why using dual boot. Why not just use windows only? I mean if it's only Photo Edit and gaming wouldn't a Windows OS suffice? That's all I'm asking.
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Just want to have fun and experiment... ;-)
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QUOTE(Siow @ Mar 19 2014, 04:55 PM)
Just want to have fun and experiment... ;-)
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 04:57 PM)
Ahh I see, thanks for the clarification. Minecrafter shoot him with your build.
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I always get that feeling the early days i recommend people..since my knowledge at that time is average-ish.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 05:18 PM)
Eh why don't you recommend him?Nervous? brows.gif
I always get that feeling the early days i recommend people..since my knowledge at that time is average-ish.. tongue.gif
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Nah, not my kind of stuff. I am lazy der, need to check the price everytime. I dunno why I haven't download the PDF yet. Since he's gonna double boot, you think a Xeon would do good?
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QUOTE(Siow @ Mar 19 2014, 04:46 PM)
Guys/gals, please comment on the build... ;-)

[Budget] 2.5K - 3K

[Purpose] Gaming / dualboot hackintosh

[Hardwares that will be re-use] HDD/SSD/Monitor

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Photo editing/Gaming

[Personal preferences]

{CPU} Core i5 4670
{MOBO} Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H
{RAM} 8GB 1600Mhz DDR3  -- Any ideas on this?
{PSU} Seasonic M12 II 620W PSU
{CPU cooler} Silverstone AR01 or AR03?
{GC} I'm lost on this ;-)
{Casing} Coolermaster/ Corsair?

[Location]Pg
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You can't use Mac OS since it's only available for Macbooks and iMacs. tongue.gif
You can use Linux and Windows though.But i've no idea on how to switch OSs.. whistling.gif

If you're doing Photo Editing is a lot,then consider this.

CPU:Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3 3.3GHz RM799
Mobo:Asrock H87 Pro4 RM319
GPU:Gainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 RM849
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RM239
PSU:Seasonic M12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM359
CPU Cooler:CoolerMaster TX3 Evo RM89
Casing:CM K380 RM149
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Total:RM2862
GPU is from Lingloong @GS,CPU Cooler is from C-Zone,the rest are from Viewnet.

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 05:19 PM)
Nah, not my kind of stuff. I am lazy der, need to check the price everytime. I dunno why I haven't download the PDF yet. Since he's gonna double boot, you think a Xeon would do good?
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I can remember around 85% of the stuffs i recommend price's.. brows.gif
Once you start recommending a lot more,you'll get used to it.. wink.gif The early days for me,everytime wanna recommend *opens up hardwarezone pricelists*. tongue.gif

Double Boot?Using Linux and Windows at the same time or Linux then can change to Windows vice versa? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 05:29 PM)
I can remember around 85% of the stuffs i recommend price's.. brows.gif
Once you start recommending a lot more,you'll get used to it.. wink.gif The early days for me,everytime wanna recommend *opens up hardwarezone pricelists*.  tongue.gif

Double Boot?Using Linux and Windows at the same time or Linux then can change to Windows vice versa?  hmm.gif
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Yup. My boss is using a crack version of Windows 7 Ultimate in his Macbook Air in dual boot mode with the Mac OS. So anytime I need to do things using Windows I just slide the touchpad and I go from Mac to Windows screen. thumbup.gif

And rajin nyer taikor suggestion thread ni. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 19 2014, 05:36 PM)
Yup. My boss is using a crack version of Windows 7 Ultimate in his Macbook Air in dual boot mode with the Mac OS. So anytime I need to do things using Windows I just slide the touchpad and I go from Mac to Windows screen.  thumbup.gif

And rajin nyer taikor suggestion thread ni.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 19 2014, 05:36 PM)
Yup. My boss is using a crack version of Windows 7 Ultimate in his Macbook Air in dual boot mode with the Mac OS. So anytime I need to do things using Windows I just slide the touchpad and I go from Mac to Windows screen.  thumbup.gif

And rajin nyer taikor suggestion thread ni.  tongue.gif
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Just slide the touchpad?!Man,i didn't know about that haha.. tongue.gif

Haha terima kasih. biggrin.gif Now can remember most of the prices la haha.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 05:37 PM)
Taiko kite, given many suggestion ady brows.gif
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Dedikasi bro. flex.gif Wait abit more. Sure get 'Elite' tag edi. brows.gif

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 05:37 PM)
Taiko kite, given many suggestion ady brows.gif
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Sudah around 600 posts,(the rest bukan suggestions.. tongue.gif ),but i still consider myself as a "Rookie" Sifu haha.Still more to belajar haha.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 19 2014, 05:44 PM)
Dedikasi bro.  flex.gif  Wait abit more. Sure get 'Elite' tag edi.  brows.gif
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Me as a Elite Member? xD If i do get the tag,i'd be the youngest Elite Member ever on LYF.. brows.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 05:43 PM)
Just slide the touchpad?!Man,i didn't know about that haha.. tongue.gif

Haha terima kasih. biggrin.gif Now can remember most of the prices la haha.. tongue.gif
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Yeah lol. Mac has Damn nice dual boot mode for laptops. Not sure about PCs though. Prolly just needs a push of a button.

If i were your dad and you fail exam I would scold you for remembering PC prices more
Than your sejarah/science/math homework. tongue.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 19 2014, 05:47 PM)
Yeah lol. Mac has Damn nice dual boot mode for laptops. Not sure about PCs though. Prolly just needs a push of a button.

If i were your dad and you fail exam I would scold you for remembering PC prices more
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Press the button with Windows logo and slide to right/left? biggrin.gif

PC Hardware history anyone? brows.gif icon_idea.gif

This is turning more and more into a Rig Suggestions Thread and a bit of a chit-chat haha. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 05:51 PM)
Press the button with Windows logo and slide to right/left? biggrin.gif

PC Hardware history anyone? brows.gif  icon_idea.gif

This is turning more and more into a Rig Suggestions Thread and a bit of a chit-chat haha. wink.gif
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Not sure. Better do more research on dual boot Windows PCs.

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 19 2014, 05:50 PM)
The heck. Zgames also 16 only. Walao eh suggestion thread so many young guys. I also feel old like hell now.
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Hi guys

am planning to build a rig soon and am still surveying the prices around. I usually buy my parts from Viewnet and have them assemble it

Would you guys recommend going to places like IdealTech or Cyntrix Technologies (in terms of pricing / service ) or would I be better off getting the parts and having them assembled from Viewnet/All-IT etc ?

thanks guys
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QUOTE(faridz7 @ Mar 19 2014, 06:01 PM)
Hi guys

am planning to build a rig soon and am still surveying the prices around. I usually buy my parts from Viewnet and have them assemble it 

Would you guys recommend going to places like IdealTech or Cyntrix Technologies (in terms of pricing / service ) or would I be better off getting the parts and having them assembled from Viewnet/All-IT etc ?

thanks guys
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Pricing more or less the same..but shops like IdealTech have good service... brows.gif icon_idea.gif
Even IdealTech does better Cable Management than those shops in Lowyat Plaza.. brows.gif

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Thanks for taking your time.  notworthy.gif

So basically I guess I will go for the Xeon CPU for the reasons.

What is the shop in LYP? The price alfiejr quote is the generally lowest among others but he doesn't mention the place.

Yeah I guess will go with Dell U series too.

Thanks again.  nod.gif

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CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo-Asrock H87M Pro-4-RM319
Memory-Gskill Value ram 2x8GB-RM478
GPU-Leadtek GTX 750 ti 2GB-RM569
SSD-Samsung 840 EVo 250GB-RM569 or you can use two 128GB SSD's for raid
HDD-Seagate Barracuda 3TB-RM379
PSU-FSP Hexa 500w-RM149
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Case-CM N300-RM149

Is there any reason why consider the Seagate brand for HDD?
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Prices in LYP are almost the same irrespective of where you go ... to me the differentiating factor is service and support. All of the shops take from the same distributors, and the prices are very much controlled at that point. The shop I go to is Cycom.

To me HDDs are about the same, I have used all brands, and all are about the same in performance and reliability at this time. I think WD is easier to find, compared to SG, and you have more choices. If you can find Hitachi, then that could be a good choice, as there are reports that show Hitachi to be more reliable in a cloud storage environment.
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Thanks Minecrafter

ah ok..will ask them for a quotation soon regarding the rig I'd like to have.

yup, I didnt know about cable management too, hence the messy cable management in my current pc. Thanks !
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 19 2014, 05:50 PM)
The heck. Zgames also 16 only. Walao eh suggestion thread so many young guys. I also feel old like hell now.
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 06:28 PM)
Surprised eh? Last year I got into PC gaming. Best year of my life brows.gif Steam sales and then I picked up "How To Build PC" by Austin. From then on just know which one the best and stuff whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 19 2014, 06:51 PM)
Eeeeeeyer, wish I was as lucky as you. Hahaha.

After SPM go find job. Then build a monster rig.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 07:01 PM)
Maybe, but I think that money gone into Uni fees ler. Dunno what to be when grow up. Don't have a fixed "want to be"
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[Hardwares that will be re-use] PSU

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Autodesk Maya, 3d studio max, Adobe softwares - Photoshop, After Effects, Premiere

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Hi guys,

I've chosen my core parts :

Processor : CORE I7 4770 - 3.40ghz ( RM949 )
Casing : Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl Non-Window (RM370)
RAM : 16gb ram
SSD hdd for main C:\ drive : ( INTEL 530 SERIES 120GB ) RM359
additional hdd :- 2tb sata 3 - western digital - RM269
DVD-RW drive - RM62

*prices sourced from Viewnet + ALL-IT

I'd appreciate a recommendation for RAM, motherboard and a graphics card

Chose a MSI GTX660 for my graphics card but if there's a better one which fits in my budget, please do let me know !

A wee bit confused for the RAM as there are a few brands but to fit into my allocated budget i chose a DDR3 1600Mhz value ram from ALL-IT priced at RM209 , it should be ok yeah ?

still considering between ordering it from IdealTech or sourcing the parts on my own from lowyat but as I've no experience in proper cable management for airflow and all, I still have got to look up more on that

thanks guys
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QUOTE(faridz7 @ Mar 19 2014, 07:06 PM)
[Budget] RM4k - RM4.2k

[Purpose] 3d design work, photo & video editing and gaming too

[Hardwares that will be re-use] PSU

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Autodesk Maya, 3d studio max, Adobe softwares - Photoshop, After Effects, Premiere

[Location] KL

Hi guys,

I've chosen my core parts :

Processor : CORE I7 4770 - 3.40ghz ( RM949 )
Casing : Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl Non-Window (RM370)
RAM : 16gb ram
SSD hdd for main C:\ drive : ( INTEL 530 SERIES 120GB )  RM359
additional hdd :- 2tb sata 3 - western digital - RM269
DVD-RW drive - RM62

*prices sourced from Viewnet + ALL-IT

I'd appreciate a recommendation for RAM, motherboard and a graphics card

Chose a MSI GTX660 for my graphics card but if there's a better one which fits in my budget, please do let me know !

A wee bit confused for the RAM as there are a few brands but to fit into my allocated budget i chose a DDR3 1600Mhz value ram from ALL-IT priced at RM209 , it should be ok yeah ?

still considering between ordering it from IdealTech or sourcing the parts on my own from lowyat but as I've no experience in proper cable management for airflow and all, I still have got to look up more on that

thanks guys
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I honestly cant remember the brand from the top of my head, I've to check it when I'm back home but I think there's sufficient power though if that's what you're wondering..about 550W I reckon
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QUOTE(faridz7 @ Mar 19 2014, 07:13 PM)
I honestly cant remember the brand from the top of my head, I've to check it when I'm back home but I think there's sufficient power though if that's what you're wondering..about 550W I reckon
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How about this?
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Mobo-Asrock H87M-Pro-4-RM319
Memory-Gskill Value ram 2x8GB-RM478
GPU-Leadtek GTX760 OC 2GB GDDR5 RM949
SSD-Samsung 840 EVo 250GB-RM569
HDD-Seagate Barracuda 3TB-RM379
PSU:Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl Non-Window RM370

Getting a nice new PSU will help in the long run. Especially if your old one is a really old unit. SSD for all your programs, and nice big HDD to store all your data.
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Reading about PSU and stumble upon this. This might be helpful.

http://support.asus.com/powersupply.aspx

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wow right on the dot Sentinel, RM4201 !

noted regarding the PSU and thanks for the recommendation and suggestions ! Any specific reason why the Asrock over Gigabyte for the motherboard? Been seeing alot of Asrock suggestions for the motherboard..I tend to prefer Gigabyte as I faced the least problems with it..so far

Also, for the RAM, is there alot of difference compared to the value Kingston RAM that I chose?

I did consider the Xeon but I think i'll still stick with the i7 as I'll still have the on-board graphics function should my graphics card fail
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 19 2014, 07:28 PM)
How about this?
CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo-Asrock H87M-Pro-4-RM319
Memory-Gskill Value ram 2x8GB-RM478
GPU-Leadtek GTX760 OC 2GB GDDR5 RM949
SSD-Samsung 840 EVo 250GB-RM569
HDD-Seagate Barracuda 3TB-RM379
PSU:Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl Non-Window RM370

Getting a nice new PSU will help in the long run. Especially if your old one is a really old unit. SSD for all your programs, and nice big HDD to store all your data.
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 08:00 PM)
Tak mau Gainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 RM849 dari Lingloong? brows.gif
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QUOTE(faridz7 @ Mar 19 2014, 07:13 PM)
I honestly cant remember the brand from the top of my head, I've to check it when I'm back home but I think there's sufficient power though if that's what you're wondering..about 550W I reckon
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Here's my suggestion

Intel Core i7 4820K 3.1GHz RM1079
Asrock X79 Extreme4 mainboard RM719
Kingston KVR1600MHz 8GB x2 RM478
Gainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB RM849
FSP Raider 650W 80+ Silver PSU RM259
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM199
Intel 530 series 120GB SSD RM359
NZXT Source 210 Elite case RM179
Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59

Total - RM4180.00

Optional :

CM Hyper 212X CPU Cooler RM129
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QUOTE(faridz7 @ Mar 19 2014, 07:42 PM)
wow right on the dot Sentinel, RM4201 !

noted regarding the PSU and thanks for the recommendation and suggestions !  Any specific reason why the Asrock over Gigabyte for the motherboard? Been seeing alot of Asrock suggestions for the motherboard..I tend to prefer Gigabyte as I faced the least problems with it..so far

Also, for the RAM, is there alot of difference compared to the value Kingston RAM that I chose?

I did consider the Xeon but I think i'll still stick with the i7 as I'll still have the on-board graphics function should my graphics card fail
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Asrock for the simple reason it has pretty good bang for buck value. But it's all down the preference I guess. If you still want Gigabyte it's fine. smile.gif

Not much really. If you can find a lower price 16GB 1600Mhz RAM by all means go ahead and get it. I know for your work load more RAM is better.

The in built graphics processor is a pale shadow of the discrete GPU in your system. Which I'm not sure whether it can handle your workload. Is your requirements very graphics intensive? If yes, then the in built one won't do much.

Btw you can remove the Leadtek GPU i suggested and go with the Gainward Phantom Mr minecraft suggested. Cheaper and very nice looking. But no slouch in the speed department either.

Also, Cable also has a good x79 setup for you to consider. smile.gif

QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 19 2014, 08:31 PM)
Here's my suggestion

Intel Core i7 4820K 3.1GHz RM1079
Asrock X79 Extreme4 mainboard RM719
Kingston KVR1600MHz 8GB x2 RM478
Gainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB RM849
FSP Raider 650W 80+ Silver PSU RM259
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM199
Intel 530 series 120GB SSD RM359
NZXT Source 210 Elite case RM179
Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59

Total - RM4180.00

Optional :

CM Hyper 212X CPU Cooler RM129
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thanks alot guys! really appreciate it

ok ive to look up on this Gainward GTX760 Phantom card

still have to do my research on the difference between the cards, like for example, I had my eyes set on the msi gtx 660 twin frozr which is priced at rm900+, and yet this gtx760 is much cheaper..

@Sentinel92 oh the reason for the in built cards for the i7 rather than the xeon is because in case of gpu failure then at least ive the option to use the in built graphics card for my graphics work just for emergencies
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 19 2014, 08:41 PM)
Asrock for the simple reason it has pretty good bang for buck value. But it's all down the preference I guess. If you still want Gigabyte it's fine. smile.gif

Not much really. If you can find a lower price 16GB 1600Mhz RAM by all means go ahead and get it. I know for your work load more RAM is better.

The in built graphics processor is a pale shadow of the discrete GPU in your system. Which I'm not sure whether it can handle your workload. Is your requirements very graphics intensive? If yes, then the in built one won't do much.

Btw you can remove the Leadtek GPU i suggested and go with the Gainward Phantom Mr minecraft suggested. Cheaper and very nice looking. But no slouch in the speed department either.

Also, Cable also has a good x79 setup for you to consider. smile.gif
X79 Haoness.  notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(faridz7 @ Mar 19 2014, 08:52 PM)
thanks alot guys! really appreciate it

ok ive to look up on this Gainward GTX760 Phantom card

still have to do my research on the difference between the cards, like for example, I had my eyes set on the msi gtx 660 twin frozr which is priced at rm900+, and yet this gtx760 is much cheaper..

@Sentinel92 oh the reason for the in built cards for  the i7 rather than the xeon is because in case of gpu failure then at least ive the option to use the in built graphics card for my graphics work just for emergencies
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GTX760 is better than GTX660. tongue.gif Higher the price doesn't mean it's better.. wink.gif

Just to poison you.. brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 08:56 PM)
GTX760 is better than GTX660. tongue.gif Higher the price doesn't mean it's better.. wink.gif

Just to poison you.. brows.gif  brows.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 08:59 PM)
I'm still waiting if GTX 750 Gainward gonna come sleep.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 09:02 PM)
Gainward GTX750Ti Phantom.. brows.gif  icon_idea.gif Doubt that will happen though. hmm.gif
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Got 750 TI GS. http://www.gainward.com/main/vgapro.php?id=925&lang=en
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QUOTE(faridz7 @ Mar 19 2014, 08:52 PM)
thanks alot guys! really appreciate it

ok ive to look up on this Gainward GTX760 Phantom card

still have to do my research on the difference between the cards, like for example, I had my eyes set on the msi gtx 660 twin frozr which is priced at rm900+, and yet this gtx760 is much cheaper..

@Sentinel92 oh the reason for the in built cards for  the i7 rather than the xeon is because in case of gpu failure then at least ive the option to use the in built graphics card for my graphics work just for emergencies
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Well then, you can other get a Z87 Core i7 or follow Cable's X79 Core i7 build. Better to have a parachute than none at all I guess.

And get the Phantom 760. Its better for cheaper. Haha.
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 08:53 PM)
U called me wot m8
Haha,i already saw people called my name incorrectly..5-6 times already.. tongue.gif
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really appreciate this guys, will look up on this Phantom card and put it on my list and will share my final specs here

looking to get my new rig sorted start of next month when pay comes in!
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 09:04 PM)
Got 750 TI GS. http://www.gainward.com/main/vgapro.php?id=925&lang=en
Bet it'll either be RM 690-ish icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif But the 750 looks small and cute enough....
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RM690 ish can get you Sapphire R9 270 OC RM679 OR Gainward GTX760 at RM789.. brows.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 19 2014, 09:07 PM)
I did it on purpose. I like calling you Mr Minecraft.  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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Hey guys. My rig is about 5yrs old ady. Now only got time to upgrade my system. Just want to get your opinion, does this setup below is fine? Budget as low as possible. Gonna switch to Intel and mATX build. smile.gif

- Intel i3 4130 @ RM365
- ASRock H81M-HDS @ RM185
- Zotac GTX 760 @ RM799
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The rest part will be reuse from my current rig. Prepare for The Elders Scroll Online.
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QUOTE(creative zn @ Mar 19 2014, 11:15 PM)
Hey guys. My rig is about 5yrs old ady. Now only got time to upgrade my system. Just want to get your opinion, does this setup below is fine? Budget as low as possible. Gonna switch to Intel and mATX build. smile.gif

- Intel i3 4130 @ RM365
- ASRock H81M-HDS @ RM185
- Zotac GTX 760 @ RM799
- Bitfenix Prodigi M @ RM319

The rest part will be reuse from my current rig. Prepare for The Elders Scroll Online.
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Elder Scroll Online?That game favors a better CPU instead of powerful GPU.. smile.gif

Intel Core i5 4440 RM579
Asrock H81M-HDS mainboard RM185
Palit GTX750 Ti StormX OC RM599
Bitfenix Prodigy M RM319
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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 19 2014, 11:31 PM)
Elder Scroll Online?That game favors a better CPU instead of powerful GPU.. smile.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Oh is it? sweat.gif But not just Elder Scroll, the current Titanfall and last year games i also intend to play. BF4, AC4, TR and such. I think better to go with better GPU? Or maybe follow your route?
The next upgrade might be end of this year when got budget.
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Hi guys, need some advice here. I'm doing surfing & watching 1080p movies brows.gif & some light gaming occasionally (dota 2)

This is the rig i have in mind:

FM2+ A10-7850K
Gigabyte G1.SNIPER A88X
1TB WD Black
DDR3 1600Mhz 8GB RAM
475W psu
Cooler master casing

Some questions regarding this setup, cos i chose A10 APU & A88X mobo only:
1. I heard AMD notorious for heating issue? Should i get better cooling system instead of using stock fan?
2. shud i wait for ssd price to drop or upgrade now?
3. Can I dual screen output with current setup for gaming? 1 DVI 1 HDMI?
4. should i crossfire a R7 250 gpu or get better gpus?
5. Is 475W psu enough?
6. Did i miss anything?

Thanks in advance biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(cysam90 @ Mar 20 2014, 12:11 AM)
Hi guys, need some advice here. I'm doing surfing & watching 1080p movies  brows.gif  & some light gaming occasionally (dota 2)

This is the rig i have in mind:

FM2+ A10-7850K
Gigabyte G1.SNIPER A88X
1TB WD Black
DDR3 1600Mhz 8GB RAM
475W psu
Cooler master casing

Some questions regarding this setup, cos i chose A10 APU & A88X mobo only:
1. I heard AMD notorious for heating issue? Should i get better cooling system instead of using stock fan?
2. shud i wait for ssd price to drop or upgrade now?
3. Can I dual screen output with current setup for gaming? 1 DVI 1 HDMI?
4. should i crossfire a R7 250 gpu or get better gpus?
5. Is 475W psu enough?
6. Did i miss anything?

Thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cysam90 @ Mar 20 2014, 12:11 AM)
Hi guys, need some advice here. I'm doing surfing & watching 1080p movies  brows.gif  & some light gaming occasionally (dota 2)

This is the rig i have in mind:

FM2+ A10-7850K
Gigabyte G1.SNIPER A88X
1TB WD Black
DDR3 1600Mhz 8GB RAM
475W psu
Cooler master casing

Some questions regarding this setup, cos i chose A10 APU & A88X mobo only:
1. I heard AMD notorious for heating issue? Should i get better cooling system instead of using stock fan?
2. shud i wait for ssd price to drop or upgrade now?
3. Can I dual screen output with current setup for gaming? 1 DVI 1 HDMI?
4. should i crossfire a R7 250 gpu or get better gpus?
5. Is 475W psu enough?
6. Did i miss anything?

Thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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1. If you want to be on a safe side you could go for a cheap cpu cooler.
2. If you're bothered by the boot and how long it'll take to open a program an ssd is good.
3. I thought only 1 output for screening.
4. The 7850k is good enough for Dota 2
5. Why not a FSP Hexa 500w at RM 150? Good psu for this kind of build.
6. I think APU Utilizes a higher speed RAM for maximum potential. If you can get a 2133MHz RAM it will increase the performance of the APU.

Why not this?

Proc - A10-7850k - RM 679
Mobo - Asrock FM2A88M - RM 299 [ Support 2133MHz RAM ]
HDD - 1TB WD Blue - RM 189
RAM - GSkill 8GB 2133MHz RAM - RM 369
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w - RM 159
Casing - CM K380 - RM 149

All of this prices are from Idealtech. But first budget plox.
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QUOTE(creative zn @ Mar 19 2014, 11:36 PM)
Oh is it?  sweat.gif  But not just Elder Scroll, the current Titanfall and last year games i also intend to play. BF4, AC4, TR and such. I think better to go with better GPU? Or maybe follow your route?
The next upgrade might be end of this year when got budget.
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Seems like i3 is underpowered.
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QUOTE(cysam90 @ Mar 20 2014, 12:11 AM)
Hi guys, need some advice here. I'm doing surfing & watching 1080p movies  brows.gif  & some light gaming occasionally (dota 2)

This is the rig i have in mind:

FM2+ A10-7850K
Gigabyte G1.SNIPER A88X
1TB WD Black
DDR3 1600Mhz 8GB RAM
475W psu
Cooler master casing

Some questions regarding this setup, cos i chose A10 APU & A88X mobo only:
1. I heard AMD notorious for heating issue? Should i get better cooling system instead of using stock fan?
2. shud i wait for ssd price to drop or upgrade now?
3. Can I dual screen output with current setup for gaming? 1 DVI 1 HDMI?
4. should i crossfire a R7 250 gpu or get better gpus?
5. Is 475W psu enough?
6. Did i miss anything?

Thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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Costs involved:
CPU- RM679
Board- RM399
HDD- RM259
RAMs-RM239
PSU- RM139 (CM Extreme II, but I'd recommend a better unit)
Case- RM129 (CM K280)
Total: RM1844

1. AMD CPUs do not run hot, but the problem is the fans can be noisy at times. You can solve this by getting an aftermarket cooler, such as the Hyper TX3 EVO, the reduce the noise of the fan.

2. SSD prices are stagnant for quite a while right now... It might be a good choice for an upgrade, if your budget permits. tongue.gif

3. Not sure on dual screen setups since I do not have experience with them. tongue.gif

4. Note that Hybrid Crossfire only works for GDDR3 variant of the GPU, shown here:
http://www.eteknix.com/amd-kaveri-dual-gra...-graphic-cards/
Do bear in mind that Hybrid Crossfire can be buggy at times, and may introduce unwanted frame time latencies (i.e. stuttering in games). It might be a much better choice to work with discrete card, as outlined by TechSpot here:

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If possible, we recommend spending a little extra money on a competent mid-range graphics card for guaranteed performance in all of your favorite games. While AMD's latest APUs make an interesting value proposition on their own, it seems like there are few situations where it would make sense to buy the company's FM2+ platform for Dual Graphics between an APU and a low-end discrete GPU.


5. 475W is enough, but I'd recommend a better unit. The FSP Hexa 500W would be perfect for an entry-level PSU. tongue.gif



Personally, I'd recommend this build:
i5 4440-RM579
ASRock H81M-DGS-RM179
WD Caviar Blue 1TB-RM189
4GB DDR3 1600 RAM-RM124
Palit GTX750Ti StormX Dual-RM560 (GBros@Garage Sales)
FSP Hexa 500W-RM149
CM K280 Case-RM129
Total: RM1909

Even though it only has a single 4GB RAM, it has a much stronger single threaded performance, and a GPU that is almost as fast as the HD7850, with very low power consumption. If you want to cut the cost down, drop the CPU to an i3, and consider downgrading the GPU as well. icon_idea.gif
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The Intel i3-4xxx CPU is sufficient to support most of the games out there, as most games do not take advantage of more than 2 cores. I think games like Crysis 3 are considered the exception, and is able to take advantage of up to 4 cores. If budget is a constraint, the i3 should be OK for >95% of the time.

In general, for gaming, the GPU is still the main bottleneck today, so if you are interested in a smooth, and enjoyable game play experience, the Geforce GTX760 that is recommended quite often here is a very good choice, especially if the price is ~RM850, which is a good deal. GTX760 will give a better experience compared to GTX750Ti.
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There was a question on running dual GPUs in CrossFireX or SLI, versus a more powerful single GPU. I have done only one CrossFireX build before, and one SLI build, and my experience from those two builds has not been very good, with a lot of follow-up maintenance on drivers, game and driver settings, heat management, cable management, etc.

I personally think that single GPUs today are more than enough for most games, and the additional average frame rates is not worth the additional cost (GPU, M/B) and trouble.

If you really want to run dual GPUs, I found the Nvidia SLI set-up better compared to CrossFireX. It was more stable, and had less issues. There are also reports that CrossFireX dual-GPU set-ups are also not as smooth, due to synchronization issues, but it seems that this has been resolved now in the latest drivers.
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QUOTE(capitalFlynn @ Mar 20 2014, 12:20 AM)
Mind sharing what monitor you are using?  icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 20 2014, 02:36 PM

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Hi guys,

Would like your opinions on this build:

PROC: i5-4570 (Haswell)
MB: Asrock B85M-HDS
RAM: Team Elite DDR3 4GB 1600mhz
GPU: Asus HD7790-DC2OC-1GD5
PSU: Enermax NAXN 500W 80Plus

Will mostly used for gaming and movies.
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QUOTE(ChickenWorm @ Mar 20 2014, 02:36 PM)
Hi guys,

Would like your opinions on this build:

PROC: i5-4570 (Haswell)
MB: Asrock B85M-HDS
RAM: Team Elite DDR3 4GB 1600mhz
GPU: Asus HD7790-DC2OC-1GD5
PSU: Enermax NAXN 500W  80Plus

Will mostly used for gaming and movies.
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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 20 2014, 10:27 AM)
The Intel i3-4xxx CPU is sufficient to support most of the games out there, as most games do not take advantage of more than 2 cores.  I think games like Crysis 3 are considered the exception, and is able to take advantage of up to 4 cores.  If budget is a constraint, the i3 should be OK for >95% of the time.

In general, for gaming, the GPU is still the main bottleneck today, so if you are interested in a smooth, and enjoyable game play experience, the Geforce GTX760 that is recommended quite often here is a very good choice, especially if the price is ~RM850, which is a good deal.  GTX760 will give a better experience compared to GTX750Ti.
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An i3 can also run R9 280X.. nod.gif
Goldfries once tried an i3 with R9 280X iinm,he said no problem.. wink.gif
Btw,Lingloong sells Gainward GTX760 2GB at RM789.. brows.gif

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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 20 2014, 02:40 PM)
What is your budget?seems good,tho..
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QUOTE(ChickenWorm @ Mar 20 2014, 03:01 PM)
Around 2k-2.5k
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CPU:Intel Core i5 4440 3.1GHz RM579
Mobo:Asrock B85M-Pro4 RM279
GPU:Gainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 RM849
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM239
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM189
PSU:Antec VP-550 550W RM199
Casing:CM K380 RM149
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Total:RM2542
GPU is from Lingloong @GS,the rest are from Viewnet.
A bit over budget there,if you want it cheaper,you can consider Sapphire R9 270 2GB GDDR5 OC RM679 and FSP Hexa 500W RM149 (From Viewnet). wink.gif
If u want to upgrade the GPU to let's say GTX770/R9 280 and above,you need a better PSU. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 20 2014, 03:08 PM)
CPU:Intel Core i5 4440 3.1GHz RM579
Mobo:Asrock B85M-Pro4 RM279
GPU:Gainward GTX760 2GB GDDR5 RM789
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM239
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM189
PSU:Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
Casing:CM K380 RM149
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Total:RM2582
GPU is from Lingloong @GS,the rest are from Viewnet.
A bit over budget there,if you want it cheaper,you can consider Sapphire R9 270 2GB GDDR5 OC RM679 and FSP Hexa 500W RM149 (From Viewnet). wink.gif
If u want to upgrade the GPU to let's say GTX770/R9 280 and above,you need a better PSU. smile.gif
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Tone down the PSU to Antec VP-550 so chickenworm can afford to buy Gainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB.
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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 20 2014, 03:27 PM)
Tone down the PSU to Antec VP-550 so chickenworm can afford to buy Gainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB.
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Edited the build. wink.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks for both your advise!
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 20 2014, 02:59 PM)
An i3 can also run R9 280X.. nod.gif
Goldfries once tried an i3 with R9 280X iinm,he said no problem.. wink.gif
Btw,Lingloong sells Gainward GTX760 2GB at RM789.. brows.gif
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Thanks Minecrafter, for correcting me on the GTX760 prices. ~RM790 is even better than RM850. Is this RM790 price for the normal GTX760 with standard cooler, or is this for the GTX760 Phantom?
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Grats for V5  rclxms.gif

Still learning in this fields, thanks in advance for your help  nod.gif

[Budget] 3k-3.5k

[Purpose]
- Dual booting (Win & Linux Server),
- Web Development
- Network Forensic/Hacking
- Program/App Development (Coding/Programming)
- Multitasking
- Other typical purpose: Downloading, Light-Gaming, Light Photoshop

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Start from scratch.

[Monitor resolution] Suitable for dual-screen

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Packet Tracer, Eclipse, Google Chrome(w/ a lot of tab), uTorrent, DOTA2

[Personal preferences] Whichever value for money. 2nd hand part can be consider.

[Location] Doesn't matter. Can travel.

P/S: Let me know if my budget is too tight
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After some changes,

CPU- Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3
Mobo- ASrock B85M Pro4
GPU- Leadtek GTX 750 ti 2GB
SSD- Samsung 840 EVo 250GB
PSU- FSP Raider 650W
HDD- Seagate 1TB Baracuda
WiFi- TP-LINK TL-WDN4800
ODD- Lite-On 24x DVD/RW
Case- CM N200
RAM- GSkill Aegis 2x8GB DDR3 1600mhz

Is this okay?
P/S: Need to cut down a lot as much as posibble cus I needed a monitor too. No dual monitor too. cry.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 20 2014, 02:59 PM)
An i3 can also run R9 280X.. nod.gif
Goldfries once tried an i3 with R9 280X iinm,he said no problem.. wink.gif
Btw,Lingloong sells Gainward GTX760 2GB at RM789.. brows.gif
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Minecraft: My place here seldom sell GPU other than normal standard Leadtek , Gigabyte, Asus and MSI

For pricing and performance it seems a lot people are recommending Gainward GTX760 2GB

any brand can replace Gainward for same pricing and performance ???
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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 20 2014, 11:33 PM)
Thanks Minecrafter, for correcting me on the GTX760 prices.  ~RM790 is even better than RM850.  Is this RM790 price for the normal GTX760 with standard cooler, or is this for the GTX760 Phantom?
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Gainward GTX760 Reference.. brows.gif

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 21 2014, 12:50 AM)
Minecraft: My place here seldom sell GPU other than normal standard Leadtek , Gigabyte, Asus and MSI

For pricing and performance it seems a lot people are recommending Gainward GTX760 2GB

any brand can replace Gainward for same pricing and performance ???
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I think Leadtek have GTX760 2GB GDDR5 at RM849. smile.gif

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In terms of GPU as well as computer hardware selection, I personally find noise performance important, as I run my PCs 24/7. It is irritating to me to have to hear fan noise when idle, and especially when gaming, where high fan noise (especially from some GPUs today) can intrude into the gaming experience (if you do not wear headphones).

In that respect, I have mostly kept to buying GPUs from either Asus, Gigabyte, or MSI - specifically the Asus Direct Cu II, Gigabyte WindForce, or MSI TwinFrozr series of graphics cards. I do understand that they do cost more, but for those people who are looking to buy a new rig, please consider if you are willing to spend more for a quieter PC.
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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 21 2014, 02:28 PM)
In terms of GPU as well as computer hardware selection, I personally find noise performance important, as I run my PCs 24/7.  It is irritating to me to have to hear fan noise when idle, and especially when gaming, where high fan noise (especially from some GPUs today) can intrude into the gaming experience (if you do not wear headphones).

In that respect, I have mostly kept to buying GPUs from either Asus, Gigabyte, or MSI - specifically the Asus Direct Cu II, Gigabyte WindForce, or MSI TwinFrozr series of graphics cards.  I do understand that they do cost more, but for those people who are looking to buy a new rig, please consider if you are willing to spend more for a quieter PC.
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The reference card especially do tend to run louder than the non reference. My card for example is slightly quieter than my sister reference gtx 760 (my fan setting is set to auto as I see no problem with the temp). Buying case with noise dampener and quiet case fans would help a lot to.
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I'm looking at Asus 760 DCUIIOC and 770DCUIIOC, wondering if the rm 300++ price difference is justifiable.
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Mar 21 2014, 02:40 PM)
The reference card especially do tend to run louder than the non reference. My card for example is slightly quieter than my sister reference gtx 760 (my fan setting is set to auto as I see no problem with the temp). Buying case with noise dampener and quiet case fans would help a lot to.
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Yes, you are right ... reference cards are louder than the cards with more specialized cooling and also run hotter most of the time, but the reference cards are generally cheaper as well.

It is a good point that you brought up on the special cases that dampen noise, like the CM Silencio series, but I have never found them to be as effective as buying a lower noise GPU, since the cases basically try to dampen the noise after it is generated, whereas quiet GPUs and quiet case fans stop the noise from being generated.

One thing I found out is that quiet case fans (Noctua, and others) can also be very expensive as well, so in the end, I ended up investing mainly in quieter GPUs.
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QUOTE(Eiensakura @ Mar 21 2014, 02:52 PM)
I'm looking at Asus 760 DCUIIOC and 770DCUIIOC, wondering if the rm 300++ price difference is justifiable.
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I would go for Sapphire R9 280X Toxic 3GB GDDR5 RM1299..but if you're a NVidia guy,get Gainward GTX770 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 RM1199 from Lingloong.. nod.gif


But,what's your budget and rig specs? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 21 2014, 03:01 PM)
I would go for Sapphire R9 280X Toxic 3GB GDDR5 RM1299..but if you're a NVidia guy,get Gainward GTX770 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 RM1199 from Lingloong.. nod.gif
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If there is consideration between a GTX760, and a GTX770, then there are reports on the internet that show that the GTX770 will give a noticeably smoother gaming experience compared to the GTX760, at high gaming resolutions (2560x1440) and high quality for most of today's games. If you are already using at least an i5 CPU, then a GTX770 will be worth the additional investment, if you have the budget.

I suspect that there will not be much difference in overall gaming experience if you game at 1920x1080, and this might not be worth the difference in price.

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this is my first pc. after google budget gaming pc. i want to make this pc and need advice at some part. my budget is really tight. around rm1500 to 1600 for pcu only.

CPU - AMD FX-6300 (any advice)
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 (any advice)
Video Card - sapphire r7 260x 2gb (ill stick with this gpu mybe)
RAM - Kingston hyperx blu RAM 4GB
HDD - wd blu 500 GB
Case - cheap case under rm100 or below. cheaoer is better. (need suggestion)
Power Supply - cheap rm150 or below (need suggestion )

about monitor. ill buy secondhand. and cheap mouse and keyboard. also need suggestion in place to buy. ( great deal and service)

p/s = this is my first post or reply and my English is baddd
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QUOTE(octavius_inc @ Mar 21 2014, 05:29 PM)
this is my first pc. after google budget gaming pc. i want to make this pc and need advice at some part. my budget is really tight. around rm1500 to 1600 for pcu only.

CPU - AMD FX-6300 (any advice)
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 (any advice)
Video Card - sapphire r7 260x 2gb (ill stick with this gpu mybe)
RAM - Kingston  hyperx blu RAM 4GB
HDD - wd blu 500 GB
Case - cheap case under rm100 or below. cheaoer is better. (need suggestion)
Power Supply - cheap rm150 or below (need suggestion )

about monitor. ill buy secondhand. and cheap mouse and keyboard.  also need suggestion in place to buy. ( great deal and service)

p/s = this is my first post or reply and my English is baddd
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Most games aren't that CPU intensive. Why not i3?

Proc - i3-4130 RM 370
Mobo - Asrock H81M-DGS RM 180
GPU - Palit GTX 750 StormX dual RM 420
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w RM 150
HDD - 1TB WD Blue [ It's cheaper than buying 500x2 ] RM 190
Casing - Coolermaster K380 RM 130
RAM - Value RAM 4GB RM 130

Well would you look at that on the spot RM 1,570. All prices are from viewnet except the GPU from GBros can search them here in this forum.

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 21 2014, 05:44 PM)
Most games aren't that CPU intensive. Why not i3?

Proc - i3-4130 RM 370 RM369
Mobo - Asrock H81M-DGS RM 180 RM179
GPU - Palit GTX 750 StormX dual RM 420
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w RM 150 RM149
HDD - 1TB WD Blue [ It's cheaper than buying 500x2 ] RM 190 RM189
Casing - Coolermaster K380 RM 150 CM K280 RM129
RAM - Value RAM 4GB RM 140 RM129
Total:RM1564

Well would you look at that on the spot RM 1,600. All prices are from viewnet except the GPU from GBros can search them here in this forum.

P.S.Correct price on the right.Im a noob at colours tagging...
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Yeah, since I'll be working in Singapore, post-conversion i should be able to set aside some rm4k (1.6ksgd, don't feel like buying in SG coz bloody charlatans in Simlim damn scary.) plus for the pc, so in that regards, any spec reccie? Not getting them any time soon tho, need to save up first lol. Mainly for gaming tho.
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let say i wan to play tomb rider at high setting. how many frame rate ill get. or ill need to stick at med setting?
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let say i wan to play tomb rider at high setting. how many frame rate ill get. or ill need to stick at med setting?
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You mean the GTX750? For Tomb Raider Ultra Settings@1920x1080 FXAA should be able to get 40FPS for your setup. But high or medium should do you fine.
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let say i wan to play tomb rider at high setting. how many frame rate ill get. or ill need to stick at med setting?
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Read this
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Hi Guys, want to ask you guys opinion about this build. I almost make up my mind and I'm down to this 3 option and my budget is around 2k-ish:

Option 1:
CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3 Rm799
Mobo: Asrock H87 Performance Rm399
RAM: Kingston Value RAM 1600MHz 8G RM245
Casing: CM N600 RM269
PSU: Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
Total: RM2011

Option 2:
CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3 RM799
Mobo: Asrock Z87 Extreme3 RM429
RAM: Kingston Value RAM 1600MHz 8G RM245
Casing: CM N600 RM269
Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM 299
Total: RM2041

CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3 RM 799
Mobo: Asus H87-Pro RM439
RAM: Kingston Value RAM 1600MHz 8G RM 245
Casing: CM N600 RM 269
PSU: Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM 299
Total: RM2051

The reason for the build is for some video editing, photo editing and some programming such as Mat-lab and currently I have 2 monitor and will be using dual display cos i will do some multitasking like doing some work on one monitor and surfing the net on the other monitor. I also play some game such as DOTA2, FM, Grid 2, Hawx, starcraft 2, i can live with medium setting. Here are some part that I will re-used back:
HDD: WD 500G Blue
WD 1TB Green
WD 3TB Green
GPU: Asus EAH 6870
Monitor: LG 21.5" E2242
Viewsonic VA1703wb

The reason I choose these 3 motherboard is that:
-all 3 have 6 sata3 connector (can install up to 6 HDD since I'm a heavy downloader tongue.gif )
-all 3 have DIGI+ VRM - Phase digital power design (asrock Z87 & H87 performance 8) & (Asus H87=Pro 6)
-all 3 have 6 USB 3.0
*although the price difference is just around RM30 to RM40.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/compare.asp?Selec...H87+Performance

For the CPU i think i choose the Xeon since its have 4C and 8T which help in doing some rendering video and programing (sorry correct me if im wrong still in learning process biggrin.gif )

The casing I choose CM N600 is because it can support fan up to 10 fans (which might help full in future since I want a good airflow for the casing in order to keep it cool) http://apac.coolermaster.com/en/product/De...eries/n600.html

plus I might left my computer on 24/7 most of the time.
What do you guys think about this rig since I'm stuck with these 3 option hmm.gif . Appreciate you guys opinion and suggestion notworthy.gif
sorry for the long explanation.. blush.gif
Thanks in advance guys.. notworthy.gif icon_question.gif


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QUOTE(kenshin84 @ Mar 21 2014, 07:45 PM)
Hi Guys, want to ask you guys opinion about this build. I almost make up my mind and I'm down to this 3 option and my budget is around 2k-ish:

Option 1:
CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3 Rm799
Mobo: Asrock H87 Performance Rm399
RAM: Kingston Value RAM 1600MHz 8G RM245
Casing: CM N600  RM269
PSU: Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
Total: RM2011

Option 2:
CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3 RM799
Mobo: Asrock Z87 Extreme3 RM429
RAM: Kingston Value RAM 1600MHz 8G RM245
Casing: CM N600 RM269
Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM 299
Total: RM2041

CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3 RM 799
Mobo: Asus H87-Pro RM439
RAM: Kingston Value RAM 1600MHz 8G RM 245
Casing: CM N600 RM 269
PSU: Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM 299
Total: RM2051

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Appreciate you guys opinion and suggestion  notworthy.gif
sorry for the long explanation.. blush.gif
Thanks in advance guys.. notworthy.gif  icon_question.gif
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Option 2 is out. That Z87 board is meant for unlocked K processors. Your Xeon isn't meant for OCing.

I suggest going with option 1. All perform the same at that range anyways so why not go with the cheaper option. Use the saved up cash and top up a bit to get 16GB RAM since youre multitasking.

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Dear All, would like to ask for you advice to build a rig.
I'm a noobie in all these stuffs so do shed some lights! Thanks in advance smile.gif

[Budget] RM2.5 -2.8k
[Purpose] Casual to mid-heavy gaming
[Hardwares that will be re-use] None
[Monitor resolution] Expect to have full HD if possible
[Games & softwares that use frequently] just some usual thingy, nothing special
[Personal preferences] nope.. not an audiophile or whatsoever
[Location] KL gombak


Sorry for being lazy, but I'm already too old to pick up some IT knowledge

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is Palit GTX 750 StormX dual is better than sapphire r7 260X? the reason i choose r7 260x was.. jayacom put really low price at it around rm470. im looking for performance/price value.. haha..
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QUOTE(AlOnE89 @ Mar 21 2014, 08:13 PM)
Dear All, would like to ask for you advice to build a rig.
I'm a noobie in all these stuffs so do shed some lights! Thanks in advance smile.gif

[Budget] RM2.5 -2.8k
[Purpose] Casual to mid-heavy gaming
[Hardwares that will be re-use] None
[Monitor resolution] Expect to have full HD if possible
[Games & softwares that use frequently] just some usual thingy, nothing special
[Personal preferences] nope.. not an audiophile or whatsoever
[Location] KL gombak


Sorry for being lazy, but I'm already too old to pick up some IT knowledge
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CPU:Intel Core i3 4130 3.4GHz RM369
Mobo:Asrock B85M-Pro4 RM279
GPU:Gainward GTX760 2GB GDDR5 RM789
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RM239
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM189
PSU:Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
Casing:CM K380 RM149
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Monitor:Dell S2240L 21.5" RM489
Total:RM2861
GPU is from Lingloong @GS,the rest are from Viewnet.


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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 21 2014, 06:23 PM)
K380 RM 129 der? Not 149? hmm.gif Damn I miss little details. Btw I just round up the numbers whistling.gif
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Eh my bad. tongue.gif I wrote "CM K280" next to it. doh.gif
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QUOTE(octavius_inc @ Mar 21 2014, 08:17 PM)
is Palit GTX 750 StormX dual is better than sapphire r7 260X? the reason i choose r7 260x was.. jayacom put really low price at it around rm470. im looking for performance/price value.. haha..
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I don't think there's a StormX Dual version for the GTX750.Or you meant to say GTX750Ti? hmm.gif

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I don't think there's a StormX Dual version for the GTX750.Or you meant to say GTX750Ti? hmm.gif
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mr Zgames said Palit GTX 750 StormX dual and it price Rm420. btw i dont see any palit gpu at pc hardware pricelist and where to find it?

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QUOTE(octavius_inc @ Mar 21 2014, 08:34 PM)
mr Zgames said Palit GTX 750 StormX dual and it price Rm420. btw i dont see any palit gpu at pc hardware pricelist and where to find it?
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I checked on GBros and Lingloong Palit pricelist,there's no GTX750 StormX Dual.. hmm.gif
Typo maybe? Zgames :lol

There is! wink.gif
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2836324

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QUOTE(octavius_inc @ Mar 21 2014, 08:34 PM)
mr Zgames said Palit GTX 750 StormX dual and it price Rm420. btw i dont see any palit gpu at pc hardware pricelist and where to find it?
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There is GTX 750 at RM 420.

> https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2836324

Check the palit Section. 1GB GDDR5 at 420 rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 21 2014, 08:39 PM)
I checked on GBros and Lingloong Palit pricelist,there's no GTX750 StormX Dual.. hmm.gif
Typo maybe? Zgames :lol

There is! wink.gif
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2836324
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Double check everything whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 21 2014, 08:39 PM)
I checked on GBros and Lingloong Palit pricelist,there's no GTX750 StormX Dual.. hmm.gif
Typo maybe? Zgames :lol

There is! wink.gif
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2836324
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GTX750 StormX Dual is better than r7 260x? can i combine the amd gpu with intel cpu?
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QUOTE(octavius_inc @ Mar 21 2014, 08:55 PM)
GTX750 StormX Dual is better than r7 260x? can i combine the amd gpu with intel cpu?
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Imo, the R7 260X is good but you find one for RM 470 right? Then go for it, don't get hoax on ah biggrin.gif. And yes AMD GPU does work with Intel CPU.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 21 2014, 07:53 PM)
Option 2 is out. That Z87 board is meant for unlocked K processors. Your Xeon isn't meant for OCing.

I suggest going with option 1. All perform the same at that range anyways so why not go with the cheaper option. Use the saved up cash and top up a bit to get 16GB RAM since youre multitasking.
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OO...thanks for the fast response notworthy.gif.. ..true true.. thumbup.gif appricieta your suggest, will be hunting them once the bonus out..hehehe.. drool.gif thanks again
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QUOTE(kenshin84 @ Mar 21 2014, 07:45 PM)
Hi Guys, want to ask you guys opinion about this build. I almost make up my mind and I'm down to this 3 option and my budget is around 2k-ish:

Option 1:
CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3 Rm799
Mobo: Asrock H87 Performance Rm399
RAM: Kingston Value RAM 1600MHz 8G RM245
Casing: CM N600  RM269
PSU: Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
Total: RM2011

Option 2:
CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3 RM799
Mobo: Asrock Z87 Extreme3 RM429
RAM: Kingston Value RAM 1600MHz 8G RM245
Casing: CM N600 RM269
Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM 299
Total: RM2041

CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3 RM 799
Mobo: Asus H87-Pro RM439
RAM: Kingston Value RAM 1600MHz 8G RM 245
Casing: CM N600 RM 269
PSU: Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM 299
Total: RM2051

The reason for the build is for some video editing, photo editing and some programming such as Mat-lab and currently I have 2 monitor and will be using dual display cos i will do some multitasking like doing some work on one monitor and surfing the net on the other monitor. I also play some game such as DOTA2, FM, Grid 2, Hawx, starcraft 2, i can live with medium setting. Here are some part that I will re-used back:
HDD: WD 500G Blue
  WD 1TB Green
  WD 3TB Green
GPU: Asus EAH 6870
Monitor: LG 21.5" E2242
            Viewsonic VA1703wb

The reason I choose these 3 motherboard is that:
-all 3 have 6 sata3 connector (can install up to 6 HDD since I'm a heavy downloader  tongue.gif )
-all 3 have DIGI+ VRM - Phase digital power design (asrock Z87 & H87 performance 8) & (Asus H87=Pro 6)
-all 3 have 6 USB 3.0
*although the price difference is just around RM30 to RM40.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/compare.asp?Selec...H87+Performance

For the CPU i think i choose the Xeon since its have 4C and 8T which help in doing some rendering video and programing (sorry correct me if im wrong still in learning process  biggrin.gif )

The casing I choose CM N600 is because it can support fan up to 10 fans (which might help full in future since I want a good airflow for the casing in order to keep it cool) http://apac.coolermaster.com/en/product/De...eries/n600.html

plus I might left my computer on 24/7 most of the time.
What do you guys think about this rig since I'm stuck with these 3 option  hmm.gif . Appreciate you guys opinion and suggestion  notworthy.gif
sorry for the long explanation.. blush.gif
Thanks in advance guys.. notworthy.gif  icon_question.gif
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option 1 and 3 , both relatively have the same specs but my preference would be option 1 as it has that 7.1 CH HD Audio and also the colour scheme looks nicer. Plus its a bit cheaper too.
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 21 2014, 08:53 PM)
There is GTX 750 at RM 420.

> https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2836324

Check the palit Section. 1GB GDDR5 at 420 rclxms.gif
Double check everything whistling.gif
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There is Palit GTX750 STORMX OC 1GB GDDR5 at RM420,but where's STORMX DUAL? hmm.gif
Or that "double check" means you checked it? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 21 2014, 09:34 PM)
There is Palit GTX750 STORMX OC 1GB GDDR5 at RM420,but where's STORMX DUAL? hmm.gif
Or that "double check" means you checked it? tongue.gif
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No dual? Damn I really need to double check stuff whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 21 2014, 08:59 PM)
Imo, the R7 260X is good but you find one for RM 470 right? Then go for it, don't get hoax on ah biggrin.gif. And yes AMD GPU does work with Intel CPU.
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the palit gpu price is fix? maybe i can get good deal for PALIT GTX 750 Ti StormX OC GDDR5 2GB haha
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QUOTE(octavius_inc @ Mar 21 2014, 09:36 PM)
the palit gpu price is fix? maybe i can get good deal for PALIT GTX 750 Ti StormX OC GDDR5 2GB haha
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Palit GTX750Ti StormX OC 2GB GDDR5 price is RM530 from GBros.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 21 2014, 09:37 PM)
Palit GTX750Ti StormX OC 2GB GDDR5 price is RM530 from GBros.. tongue.gif
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750 Ti and 260X on par right? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 21 2014, 09:36 PM)
No dual? Damn I really need to double check stuff whistling.gif
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This will help u.. tongue.gif biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 21 2014, 09:37 PM)
Palit GTX750Ti StormX OC 2GB GDDR5 price is RM530 from GBros.. tongue.gif
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yeah i know. what i mean is can we nego the price haha..
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750 Ti and 260X on par right? hmm.gif
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Answer:Nope!
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QUOTE(octavius_inc @ Mar 21 2014, 09:40 PM)
yeah i know. what i mean is can we nego the price haha..
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Idk about that.. hmm.gif
Maybe you can try.. icon_idea.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(octavius_inc @ Mar 21 2014, 09:40 PM)
yeah i know. what i mean is can we nego the price haha..
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Yes you can, simply PM him. You can see the PM button down there to ask for better prices.

QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 21 2014, 09:40 PM)
Answer:Nope!
But..the former is better.. brows.gif
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Wah can give me link to the site? I haven't bookmark most of this whistling.gif
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QUOTE(octavius_inc @ Mar 21 2014, 06:39 PM)
let say i wan to play tomb rider at high setting. how many frame rate ill get. or ill need to stick at med setting?
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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 21 2014, 07:30 PM)
Read this
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Guru3D does have a pretty exhaustive comparison of the GTX750 and GTX750Ti against many other graphics cards, and uses the standard basis of comparison, which is average frame rates.

Another good resource is to use this report to provide another point of reference:
http://techreport.com/review/26050/nvidia-...ics-processor/7

TechReport's approach to graphics card benchmarking has been revolutionary, and based on frame time trends. Although GTX750 still makes it for Tomb Raider (use the 33.3ms standard which equivalent to 30fps), GTX750Ti provides just a little more headroom to ensure that the game play experience is nice and smooth, with no stuttering. If your budget allows for the GTX750Ti, please consider that card to ensure you can enjoy playing Tomb Raider at 1920x1080 FXAA with most settings on Ultra.

However, if you are a BF4 fan, then GTX750Ti is the much better card compared to GTX750 which has too many high frame time occurrences, causing stuttering to occur for 1920x1080 High quality settings.
http://techreport.com/review/26050/nvidia-...ics-processor/8

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 21 2014, 09:41 PM)
Yes you can, simply PM him. You can see the PM button down there to ask for better prices.
Wah can give me link to the site? I haven't bookmark most of this whistling.gif
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Suree.
http://www.techpowerup.com
Or just simply type "GTX750Ti Techpowerup".It will show the results(webpages links to if u know what i mean.. tongue.gif ),click the one that says review.And when you're on review page,scroll down,there'll be a menu that you can change to it's performance summary and games benchmarks etc. brows.gif

Credit to Chocobo7779,when i started recommending,i don't know about TPU at all!He gave me the name of the website! rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 21 2014, 09:45 PM)
Guru3D does have a pretty exhaustive comparison of the GTX750 and GTX750Ti against many other graphics cards, and uses the standard basis of comparison, which is average frame rates.

Another good resource is to use this report to provide another point of reference:
http://techreport.com/review/26050/nvidia-...ics-processor/7

TechReport's approach to graphics card benchmarking has been revolutionary, and based on frame time trends.  Although GTX750 still makes it for Tomb Raider (use the 33.3ms standard which equivalent to 30fps), GTX750Ti provides just a little more headroom to ensure that the game play experience is nice and smooth, with no stuttering.  If your budget allows for the GTX750Ti, please consider that card to ensure you can enjoy playing Tomb Raider at 1920x1080 FXAA with most settings on Ultra.

However, if you are a BF4 fan, then GTX750Ti is the much better card compared to GTX750 which has too many high frame time occurrences, causing stuttering to occur for 1920x1080 High quality settings.
http://techreport.com/review/26050/nvidia-...ics-processor/8
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im trying to get a good price for PALIT GTX 750 Ti StormX OC GDDR5 2GB.. already pm the dealer
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sorry for asking, but i wanna know any place other than lowyat specifically around shah alam and melaka to buy pc components with low price?.
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 21 2014, 07:04 AM)
I think Leadtek have GTX760 2GB GDDR5 at RM849. smile.gif
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You one Leadtek have GTX760 2GB GDDR5 @RM849 is OC version or Normal standard version ???
JB here Normal version is RM799 and OC version is RM 969

If your standard version is RM849 and JB is RM799 then I gonna push the shop for more discount

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 22 2014, 12:19 AM)
You one Leadtek have GTX760 2GB GDDR5 @RM849 is OC version or Normal standard version ???
JB here Normal version is RM799 and OC version is RM 969

If your standard version is RM849 and JB is RM799 then I gonna push the shop for more discount
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At Idealtech the normal one cost RM 799 [ 2GB DDR5 ] and the OC one cost RM 919.
> Here https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1273097&hl=
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Mar 21 2014, 11:44 PM)
sorry for asking, but i wanna know any place other than lowyat specifically around shah alam and melaka to buy pc components with low price?.
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apart from thunder match at alam sentral..i guess the nearest would be digital mall pj...not sure if there is any other shop at alam sentral...long time didn't go there even just nearby my house lol...

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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Mar 21 2014, 09:16 PM)
option 1 and 3 , both relatively have the same specs but my preference would be option 1 as it has that 7.1 CH HD Audio and also the colour scheme looks nicer. Plus its a bit cheaper too.
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brows.gif true true...the Asrock H87 performance colour scheme look nicer... thumbup.gif thanks again guys... notworthy.gif
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one question, upgrade now or wait for DDR4?


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Can somebody suggest me a complete system
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no monitor needed since i will use my lcd tv as monitor.

Thanks.
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Mar 21 2014, 11:44 PM)
sorry for asking, but i wanna know any place other than lowyat specifically around shah alam and melaka to buy pc components with low price?.
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QUOTE(heizad Mar 22 2014 @ 12:56 AM)
apart from thunder match at alam sentral..i guess the nearest would be digital mall pj...not sure if there is any other shop at alam sentral...long time didn't go there even just nearby my house lol...
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The best would be GBros or Cyntrixtech which located at Puchong.

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QUOTE(joker_jr @ Mar 22 2014, 05:40 AM)
Salam n greetings to all.
Can somebody suggest me a complete system
for budget around rm 1k.
Lite user. Not for gaming, just for internet browsing.
no monitor needed since i will use my lcd tv as monitor.

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Proc - Intel Pentium G3220 RM 179
Mobo - Asrock H81M-DGS RM 179
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w RM 149
HDD - 1TB WD Blue RM 189
RAM - 4GB Value RAM RM 129
Casing - CM K280 RM 129

All for RM954 . Prices are from viewtech. Hope this help biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kdr31 @ Mar 22 2014, 04:19 AM)
hi sifus

one question, upgrade now or wait for DDR4?
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hmm... you're upgrading from what? DDR2? what's the issue that you wanna perform an upgrade?
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post Mar 22 2014, 10:48 AM

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Hi guys, looking for GPU at below RM300. Using a FXP HExa 400W.
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QUOTE(DeepMemory @ Mar 22 2014, 10:48 AM)
Hi guys, looking for GPU at below RM300. Using a FXP HExa 400W.
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What's your purpose? at that price, you'll get what we call a "display-card" hardly any games can run smoothly on it on 1080P at low settings... unless you're looking to watch movies and web surfing only then it's another story

RM289 can net you a GT630 from Nvidia or a HD7730 from AMD.. any higher will be more than RM300 already
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QUOTE(DeepMemory @ Mar 22 2014, 10:48 AM)
Hi guys, looking for GPU at below RM300. Using a FXP HExa 400W.
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R7-250-rm299

though you can look for 2nd hand gc for that price, I saw a hd 6870 selling around that price at garage sales.
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if i want to use PALIT GTX 750 Ti StormX Dual GDDR5 do i need to change my psu and case?
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Well I am upgrading my bro's Nvidia Gt 430 for gaming. His monitor resolution is 1600x900.
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QUOTE(octavius_inc @ Mar 22 2014, 11:29 AM)
if i want to use PALIT GTX 750 Ti StormX Dual GDDR5 do i need to change my psu and case?
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What case do you have?Btw,no need to change PSU if u wanna get Palit GTX750Ti StormX DUal... brows.gif nod.gif

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QUOTE(kdr31 @ Mar 22 2014, 04:19 AM)
hi sifus

one question, upgrade now or wait for DDR4?
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Unless you're getting the new generation X99 or Z89 or Haswell-E, no point getting DDR4. Will be expensive as hell too.
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QUOTE(DeepMemory @ Mar 22 2014, 11:30 AM)
Well I am upgrading my bro's Nvidia Gt 430 for gaming. His monitor resolution is 1600x900.
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well it's not much of an upgrade at that price... maybe a 2nd hand GPU will help a lot but you'd need to scour the GS... sticking to brands like Sapphire or Leadtek may help you could look for at least a HD7750 or a Gtx550ti at your budget, making offers as you go

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 22 2014, 11:41 AM)
Unless you're getting the new generation X99 or Z89 or Haswell-E, no point getting DDR4. Will be expensive as hell too.
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RM300-350 price range for 4x2GB? hmm.gif That is my guess.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 22 2014, 11:31 AM)
What case do you have?Btw,no need to change PSU if u wanna get Palit GTX750Ti StormX DUal... brows.gif  nod.gif
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planning to buy normal atx case. PALIT GTX 750 Ti StormX is bigger right?
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QUOTE(octavius_inc @ Mar 22 2014, 11:46 AM)
planning to buy normal atx case. PALIT GTX 750 Ti StormX is bigger right?
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mid tower case, it should fit.
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QUOTE(octavius_inc @ Mar 22 2014, 11:46 AM)
planning to buy normal atx case. PALIT GTX 750 Ti StormX is bigger right?
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It'll fit a mid-tower case just fine. nod.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 22 2014, 11:49 AM)
It'll fit a mid-tower case just fine. nod.gif
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QUOTE(octavius_inc @ Mar 22 2014, 11:55 AM)
any suggestion in cheap mid tower case. i mean really cheap. i dont care about the brand
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Really cheap?I would say CoolerMaster K280 RM129 as a cheap but decent. tongue.gif
Other option is Xigmatek Helios 232 RM109. nod.gif

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QUOTE(octavius_inc @ Mar 22 2014, 11:55 AM)
any suggestion in cheap mid tower case. i mean really cheap. i dont care about the brand
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CM LAN Case RM 80
GZ Case RM 69

And...that's it that I got in mind hmm.gif
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yup gigabyte gz series, Xigmatek Helios(edited-its a micro atx case), Aerocool cases (some of my friends are using it so far its ok) , CM 343 elite black (i think it's rm99, edited- this is a micro-atx case but the 750ti should fit in easily).

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hurm my 4 years old A42JV is dying on me edy...still thinking how much should i fork out to build a rig...haven't been following up with these kind of things for 4-5 years edy...lol..last rig was a wolfdale..a bit of OC'ing...
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 22 2014, 12:07 PM)
hurm my 4 years old A42JV is dying on me edy...still thinking how much should i fork out to build a rig...haven't been following up with these kind of things for 4-5 years edy...lol..last rig was a wolfdale..a bit of OC'ing...
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Usage? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 22 2014, 12:08 PM)
Usage? tongue.gif
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medium to high gaming..already have a monitor...not sure if i want to get back to little oc'ing or not lol
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 22 2014, 12:12 PM)
medium to high gaming..already have a monitor...not sure if i want to get back to little oc'ing or not lol
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 22 2014, 12:14 PM)
Can please state the budget? whistling.gif
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that's why still thinking tongue.gif

maybe can give me few options..perhaps for 2-3k..3-4k?
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 22 2014, 12:14 PM)
Can please state the budget? whistling.gif
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He said:"still thinking how much should i fork out to build a rig.." tongue.gif
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 22 2014, 12:15 PM)
that's why still thinking tongue.gif

maybe can give me few options..perhaps for 2-3k..3-4k?
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CPU:Intel Core i5 4440 3.1GHz RM579
Mobo:Asrock H87 Pro4 RM319
GPU:Gainward GTX760 PHantom 2GB GDDR5 RM849
RAm:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM239
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM189
PSU:Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
Casing:Corsair Carbide 200r RM229
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
SSD:Intel 530 Series 120GB RM349
Total:RM3111
GPU is from Lingloong @GS,the rest are from Viewnet.
If you want it 4K,get Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4GB GDDR5 RM1699 (from Viewnet).If want 3.5K,get Sapphire R9 280X Toxic 3GB GDDR5 RM1299 (from C-Zone).If want 2.5K,drop the SSD and get Intel Core i3 4130 3.4GHz RM369 (from Viewnet). icon_idea.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 22 2014, 12:21 PM)
CPU:Intel Core i5 4440 3.1GHz RM579
Mobo:Asrock H87 Pro4 RM319
GPU:Gainward GTX760 PHantom 2GB GDDR5 RM849
RAm:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM239
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM189
PSU:Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
Casing:Corsair Carbide 200r RM229
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
SSD:Intel 530 Series 120GB RM349
Total:RM3111
GPU is from Lingloong @GS,the rest are from Viewnet.
If you want it 4K,get Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4GB GDDR5 RM1699 (from Viewnet).If want 3.5K,get Sapphire R9 280X Toxic 3GB GDDR5 RM1299 (from C-Zone).If want 2.5K,drop the SSD and get Intel Core i3 4130 3.4GHz RM369 (from Viewnet). icon_idea.gif  brows.gif
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Imo ditch SSD and get a cheaper case like Bitfenix Shadow [ DAMN BEAUTY ] and get 780 Amp! He is going for High "Gaming" icon_idea.gif
Edit - DON'T DITCH the SSD. I just noticed the price down there. Get Bitfenix Shadow and throw in the 780 Amp for Smoothness olalala.

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 22 2014, 12:23 PM)
Imo ditch SSD and get a cheaper case like Bitfenix Shadow [ DAMN BEAUTY ] and get 780 Amp! He is going for High "Gaming" icon_idea.gif
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Zotac GTX780 AMP! Can get you R9 290X Tri-X for 250 more.. brows.gif icon_idea.gif or he can opt for Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4GB GDDR5 RM1699..better in Price/Performance ratio than the Zotac GTX780 AMP!.. brows.gif icon_idea.gif

Bitfenix Shadow same price as Corsair Carbide 200r.. tongue.gif
No monitor in 3K build,an i5,GTX760 and SSD are well balanced in 3K imo.. brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 22 2014, 12:28 PM)
Zotac GTX780 AMP! Can get you R9 290X Tri-X for 250 more.. brows.gif  icon_idea.gif or he can opt for Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4GB GDDR5 RM1699..better in Price/Performance ratio than the Zotac GTX780 AMP!.. brows.gif  icon_idea.gif

Bitfenix Shadow same price as Corsair Carbide 200r.. tongue.gif
No monitor in 3K build,an i5,GTX760 and SSD are well balanced in 3K imo.. brows.gif  brows.gif
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Only 8% Better whistling.gif But depend also. I don't know why, I always loved Nvidia so that's why just keep sticking to nvidia. Damn I don't know much bout AMD sad.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 22 2014, 12:30 PM)
Only 8% Better whistling.gif But depend also. I don't know why, I always loved Nvidia so that's why just keep sticking to nvidia. Damn I don't know much bout AMD sad.gif
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Recommending people cannot always recommend the one you like the most like NVidia. tongue.gif Find the one that fits the budget,suit his needs etc. nod.gif wink.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 22 2014, 12:33 PM)
Recommending people cannot always recommend the one you like. tongue.gif Find the one that fits the budget,suit his needs etc. nod.gif  wink.gif
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Yea...need to stop recommend people all nvidia whistling.gif Seems like I got some homework to do on AMD whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 22 2014, 12:30 PM)
Only 8% Better whistling.gif But depend also. I don't know why, I always loved Nvidia so that's why just keep sticking to nvidia. Damn I don't know much bout AMD sad.gif
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haha opposite from me , been with AMD GPUs all the way tongue.gif
BTW @hiezad - wait for another week, BitFenix launching new airflow-optimised chassis wink.gif
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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Mar 22 2014, 12:35 PM)
haha opposite from me , been with AMD GPUs all the way tongue.gif
BTW @hiezad - wait for another week, BitFenix launching new airflow-optimised chassis wink.gif
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You mean

this one > user posted image

Comrade Bitfenix, we have come to annihilate the dark ones.
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 22 2014, 12:39 PM)
You mean

this one > user posted image

Comrade Bitfenix, we have come to annihilate the dark ones.
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drool.gif drool.gif Biiitiful!! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 22 2014, 12:39 PM)
You mean

this one > user posted image

Comrade Bitfenix, we have come to annihilate the dark ones.
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tsk tsk tsk, nope biggrin.gif

here's a teaser

Attached Image
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 22 2014, 12:56 AM)
apart from thunder match at alam sentral..i guess the nearest would be digital mall pj...not sure if there is any other shop at alam sentral...long time didn't go there even just nearby my house lol...
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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 22 2014, 06:16 AM)
The best would be GBros or Cyntrixtech which located at Puchong.
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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Mar 22 2014, 12:44 PM)
tsk tsk tsk, nope biggrin.gif

here's a teaser

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Demmit, Bitfenix y u make so sexy case ;-;

Whatever it is better be an ATX case whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 22 2014, 12:42 PM)
drool.gif  drool.gif Biiitiful!! biggrin.gif
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lol these are budget-oriented chassis bro wink.gif expect them to the priced close to the Merc or the Outlaw

otw to our shores and even the windowed side panel version is coming
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 22 2014, 12:46 PM)
Demmit, Bitfenix y u make so sexy case ;-;

Whatever it is better be an ATX case whistling.gif
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long story short.. yes it's an ATX chassis
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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Mar 22 2014, 12:49 PM)
lol these are budget-oriented chassis bro wink.gif expect them to the priced close to the Merc or the Outlaw

otw to our shores and even the windowed side panel version is coming
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Wait the price the same as Merc or Outlaw? And a windowed version too?! I see what I'm getting at. Dunnid Bitfenix Shadow no more whistling.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Mar 22 2014, 12:49 PM)
lol these are budget-oriented chassis bro wink.gif expect them to the priced close to the Merc or the Outlaw

otw to our shores and even the windowed side panel version is coming
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hmm.gif Might start recommending those new Bitfenix casings instead of CM K380/K280 in the RM120-180 price range if budget allows.. tongue.gif hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 22 2014, 01:00 PM)
hmm.gif Might start recommending those new Bitfenix casings instead of CM K380/K280 in the RM120-180 price range if budget allows. tongue.gif  hmm.gif
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The mercs and outlaw are great budget chassis and looks nice. Their range is RM 130-190 whistling.gif
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this thread is moving fast lol...thx guys for some input..will consider smile.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 22 2014, 01:02 PM)
The mercs and outlaw are great budget chassis and looks nice. Their range is RM 130-190 whistling.gif
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biggrin.gif There's the Corsair Carbide 200r RM229.. tongue.gif
But i still think that CM K380 is the best budget computer case,as most Sifus in this thread (Including me tongue.gif ) always recommend that casing,unless the build have a 3 slot GPU,u may need a casing with longer GPU's length support.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 22 2014, 01:07 PM)
this thread is moving fast lol...thx guys for some input..will consider smile.gif
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Your welcome Liverpool fan.. tongue.gif
Yup,this thread is moving fast,im sure by June or July,V6! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 22 2014, 01:07 PM)
biggrin.gif There's the Corsair Carbide 200r RM229.. tongue.gif
But i still think that CM K380 is the best budget computer case,as most Sifus in this thread (Including me tongue.gif ) always recommend that casing,unless the build have a 3 slot GPU,u may need a casing with longer GPU's length support.. tongue.gif
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How bout CM N200 against K380?
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[Purpose]
- Photo / Video / Audio Editing / Rendering Heavy
- Web Design & Programming
- Workstation, Long working hours (24/7)

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
- Sapphire Radeon HD5770 Vapor-X OC
- 2 x Dell S2340L
- Samsung 840 Pro 256GB
- Keyboard & Mouse & Speaker

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
- Adobe Series Programs
- Dota 2 / Battlefield 4

[Location]
KL / JB

[Personal preferences]
Hey guys ! I've been long long away from rig build since my last did.. abit lost with the current rig trends.. and i need your guys help me in picking
Basically after my previous desktop dead from thunder short circuit I just move forwards to laptop as I've travel alot until now again back to desktop rig world rclxm9.gif

CPU :: Intel Xeon or i7 ?
Yeap as i mentioned above I will need to do a lot of heavy rendering, according what I 'googled' and most of the post over here I think what i need is CPU intensive instead of GPU
But I'm confuse with some technical questions which do I pick ? At first I was good to go with Xeon as the parallel processing power is better, but some said i7 multi-threading wins at some point..
Performance wise, which shall I go ? as I saw i7 at certain level is quite exp thou ...

Mobo :: ASUS or Asrock ?
Never heard of Asrock before but it looks like it's like one of the mainstream ? rclxub.gif

Memory :: Performance / Value RAM ? 8 / 16GB ?
From my experience of ram choosing for laptop.. Performance or Value ram doesn't make significant improvement.. I doubt that on desktop.. suggestion ?

GPU :: SAPPHIRE R9 280X TOXIC / VAPOR-X
No really a demand for this time as my 3yrs old HD5770 still working well (hopefully), I found that R9 280x looks like the decent hot pick in here ?
If budget allow I don't mind do this upgrade tongue.gif Question only for the different on Toxic & Vapor-X, I read some post said it's most probably the same and do the RM50 worth the different ?

HDD :: WD Black / Purple / Green ?
I'm very storage-hungry user as most of my working files counts by GB.. doh.gif
2 or 3TB looks like my need here. For a file storage purpose, do I need a better one like Black or Purple ?

PSU :: 850w / 1000w ? Corsair / CM ?
My most less knowledge on this everytime
My maths sucks i can't understand the format on the post here, which I need assist in this very much.. cry.gif

ODD :: Liteon 24x SATA DVDR+W
This one I think should be fit me enough ~

Case :: Corsair Vengeance C70 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case
Only this will be my only 'must-have', I like the design and it score high feedback on temp control and i'll need this rig operate almost non-stop.. doh.gif
You guys have any cheaper/better choice suggestion ?


I know i'm annoying questions people.. so.. thanks in advance!

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QUOTE(gandaft_iye @ Mar 22 2014, 05:12 PM)
[Budget] 3.5 ~ 4k

[Purpose]
- Photo / Video / Audio Editing / Rendering Heavy
- Web Design & Programming
- Workstation, Long working hours (24/7)

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
- Sapphire Radeon HD5770 Vapor-X OC
- 2 x Dell S2340L
- Samsung 840 Pro 256GB
- Keyboard & Mouse & Speaker

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
- Adobe Series Programs
- Dota 2 / Battlefield 4

[Location]
KL / JB

[Personal preferences]
Hey guys ! I've been long long away from rig build since my last did.. abit lost with the current rig trends.. and i need your guys help me in picking 
Basically after my previous desktop dead from thunder short circuit I just move forwards to laptop as I've travel alot until now again back to desktop rig world  rclxm9.gif

CPU :: Intel Xeon or i7 ?
Yeap as i mentioned above I will need to do a lot of heavy rendering, according what I 'googled' and most of the post over here I think what i need is CPU intensive instead of GPU
But I'm confuse with some technical questions which do I pick ? At first I was good to go with Xeon as the parallel processing power is better, but some said i7 multi-threading wins at some point..
Performance wise, which shall I go ? as I saw i7 at certain level is quite exp thou ...

Mobo :: ASUS or Asrock ?
Never heard of Asrock before but it looks like it's like one of the mainstream ?  rclxub.gif

Memory :: Performance / Value RAM ? 8 / 16GB ?
From my experience of ram choosing for laptop.. Performance or Value ram doesn't make significant improvement.. I doubt that on desktop.. suggestion ?

GPU :: SAPPHIRE R9 280X TOXIC / VAPOR-X
No really a demand for this time as my 3yrs old HD5770 still working well (hopefully), I found that R9 280x looks like the decent hot pick in here ?
If budget allow I don't mind do this upgrade  tongue.gif  Question only for the different on Toxic & Vapor-X, I read some post said it's most probably the same and do the RM50 worth the different ?

HDD :: WD Black / Purple / Green ?
I'm very storage-hungry user as most of my working files counts by GB..  doh.gif
2 or 3TB looks like my need here. For a file storage purpose, do I need a better one like Black or Purple ?

PSU :: 850w / 1000w ? Corsair / CM ?
My most less knowledge on this everytime
My maths sucks i can't understand the format on the post here, which I need assist in this very much..  cry.gif

ODD :: Liteon 24x SATA DVDR+W
This one I think should be fit me enough ~

Case :: Corsair Vengeance C70 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case
Only this will be my only 'must-have', I like the design and it score high feedback on temp control and i'll need this rig operate almost non-stop..  doh.gif
You guys have any cheaper/better choice suggestion ?
I know i'm annoying questions people.. so.. thanks in advance!
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Intel Xeon E3-1230v3 3.3GHz RM799
Asrock H87 Pro4 mainboard RM319
Kingston KVR1600MHz 8GB x2 RM478
Sapphire Toxic R9 280X OC 3GB RM1199
Cooler Master V550 80+ Gold RM329
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM189
Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Corsair C70 case RM379
Cooler Master TPC 612 Cooler RM199

Total - RM3950.00
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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 22 2014, 05:45 PM)
Fuhhh..tower of text sweat.gif tongue.gif

Intel Xeon E3-1230v3 3.3GHz RM799
Asrock H87 Pro4 mainboard RM319
Kingston KVR1600MHz 8GB x2 RM478
Sapphire Toxic R9 280X OC 3GB RM1199
Cooler Master V550 80+ Gold RM329
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM189
Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Corsair C70 case RM379
Cooler Master TPC 612 Cooler RM199

Total - RM3950.00
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That's the Semi Modular isn't it?I would get the Seasonic G-550 Modular 80+ Gold RM359 instead.. tongue.gif

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That's the Semi Modular isn't it?I would get the Seasonic G-550 Modular 80+ Gold RM359 instead.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 22 2014, 05:45 PM)
Fuhhh..tower of text sweat.gif tongue.gif

Intel Xeon E3-1230v3 3.3GHz RM799
Asrock H87 Pro4 mainboard RM319
Kingston KVR1600MHz 8GB x2 RM478
Sapphire Toxic R9 280X OC 3GB RM1199
Cooler Master V550 80+ Gold RM329
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM189
Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Corsair C70 case RM379
Cooler Master TPC 612 Cooler RM199

Total - RM3950.00
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Thanks ! Some questions following..
Why Asrock H87 Pro4 ?
Toxic R9 @ RM1199 from which dealer ?

Different between Cooler Master V550 80+ Gold & Seasonic G-550 Modular 80+ Gold is .. ?

how do you know that 550w is enough for these ?

Thanks again ! tongue.gif

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Thanks ! Some questions following..
Why Asrock H87 Pro4 ?
Toxic R9 @ RM1199 from which dealer ?

Different between Cooler Master V550 80+ Gold & Seasonic G-550 Modular 80+ Gold is .. ?

how do you know that 550w is enough for these ?

Thanks again ! tongue.gif
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Sorry.Typo error.It's actually RM1299

Why H87 Pro4?It's cheap.Major brands like Asus,Gigabyte are always overpriced and usually has no much difference with other cheaper brands like Asrock,MSI etc.

Regarding the PSU,it's up to you to choose.Both made by seasonic AFAIK and should be no much differences in terms of reliability.
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Thanks ! Some questions following..
Why Asrock H87 Pro4 ?
Toxic R9 @ RM1199 from which dealer ?

Different between Cooler Master V550 80+ Gold & Seasonic G-550 Modular 80+ Gold is .. ?

how do you know that 550w is enough for these ?

Thanks again ! tongue.gif
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Both the V550 and G-550 are built by Seasonic, one is semi-modular cables, and another is full modular cables, though there is not much of a difference. Overall, there is no real significance difference between the two, at least from a normal usage perspective.

Most single GPU PCs, and using Intel CPU should not draw more than 500W maximum, so 550W is OK. If you want a little more headroom, consider a 600W to 650W PSU, but anything more than that is overkill, and a waste of budget.

I prefer Asus motherboards in all my builds (I build 1 rig every 3 months or so), and I never had any issues with them. Generally, there is no major differences between motherboards.
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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 22 2014, 06:25 PM)
Depends.Both build by seasonic.. smile.gif
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CoolerMaster V550 Semi Modular is build by Enhance la.. tongue.gif http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/...er/V550S/1.html
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 22 2014, 07:17 PM)
CoolerMaster V550 Semi Modular is build by Enhance la.. tongue.gif http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/...er/V550S/1.html
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Edited :

Sorry.V700 and 850 that made by seasonic.But Enhance also a good manufacturer.They've built most of Silverstone's PSU,Zalman,CM's Silent PSUs etc..

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Read the first paragraph :
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I know that V Series is build by Seasonic.
But it says the VS series is build by Enhance.. rclxub.gif
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I know that V Series is build by Seasonic.
But it says the VS series is build by Enhance..  rclxub.gif
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Minecrafter, yes, the V550S is built by Enhance. Looks like my information is outdated.

In this case, it is better to go for the Seasonic PSU, Enhance is good, but Seasonic in my opinion is better.
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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 22 2014, 07:20 PM)
Edited :

Sorry.V700 and 850  that made by seasonic.But Enhance also a good manufacturer.They've built most of Silverstone's PSU,Zalman,CM's Silent PSUs etc..
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I prefer Seasonic if the budget allows though.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 22 2014, 07:53 PM)
Minecrafter, yes, the V550S is built by Enhance.  Looks like my information is outdated.

In this case, it is better to go for the Seasonic PSU, Enhance is good, but Seasonic in my opinion is better.
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Yup lol,Seasonic is better IMO.But if the budget doesn't allow,then a non-seasonic is okay.. nod.gif But better not skimp too much on the PSU.. wink.gif
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Hi there...my friend want to build a rig around 2.5-2.8k...mainly for gaming...bf4, cod, and new upcoming games

Hardware to reuse only keyboard and monitor using his tv...1080p I think...if not...maybe 720p..

Here's some setup that I manage to do on his budget by keeping it at the low side...please comment on the setup

CPU:Intel Core i5 4440 3.1Ghz RM579
Mobo:Asus B85M-G RM279
GPU:Sapphire R9 270x bf4 RM759
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RM239
PSU:FSP HEXA 500W RM149
Casing:CM elite 431 RM 159
HDD: 1tera RM 189
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Mouse:razer abyssus RM129 (HE WANT RAZER MOUSE TO PAIR WITH HIS RAZER KEYBOARD)

Total RM2541

Can the sound came out to the tv if connect via hdmi from tv to gc??

Will the gc have enough juice from the psu??

Can the gc support the resolution of the tv he will be using as his monitor for gaming??



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QUOTE(spadecrew @ Mar 22 2014, 08:50 PM)
Hi there...my friend want to build a rig around 2.5-2.8k...mainly for gaming...bf4, cod, and new upcoming games

Hardware to reuse only keyboard and monitor using his tv...1080p I think...if not...maybe 720p..

Here's some setup that I manage to do on his budget by keeping it at the low side...please comment on the setup

CPU:Intel Core i5 4440 3.1Ghz RM579
Mobo:Asus B85M-G RM279
GPU:Sapphire R9 270x bf4 RM759
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RM239
PSU:FSP HEXA 500W RM149
Casing:CM elite 431 RM 159
HDD: 1tera RM 189
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Mouse:razer abyssus RM129 (HE WANT RAZER MOUSE TO PAIR WITH HIS RAZER KEYBOARD)

Total RM2541

Can the sound came out to the tv if connect via hdmi from tv to gc??

Will the gc have enough juice from the psu??

Can the gc support the resolution of the tv he will be using as his monitor for gaming??
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Why not a GTX760? brows.gif

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Mar 22 2014, 08:58 PM)
Why not a GTX760? brows.gif
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Remember what Minecrafter recommend? The gainward one for RM 845 [ Phantom ] brows.gif
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Remember what Minecrafter recommend? The gainward one for RM 845 [ Phantom ] brows.gif
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Phantom... brows.gif
Zotac AMP not bad as well.... brows.gif with free games and stuff as well...

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Mar 22 2014, 09:03 PM)
Phantom... brows.gif
Zotac AMP not bad as well.... brows.gif
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Still the most mainstream card.....for this kind of budget brows.gif
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Phantom... brows.gif
Zotac AMP not bad as well.... brows.gif  with free games and stuff as well...
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POISONOUS VENOM BELOW! laugh.gif

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Still the most mainstream card.....for this kind of budget brows.gif
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You still remember hehehee... laugh.gif
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Yes the sound can come out from the tv as HDMI do carry both audio and video signals.

@ 1080P that GC can run well with new games, eventhough you will have to turn some of the eye candies but it will still work well.

Btw that mouse better get the Deathadder 2013 instead, really nice mouse to use thumbup.gif .
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QUOTE(spadecrew @ Mar 22 2014, 08:50 PM)
Hi there...my friend want to build a rig around 2.5-2.8k...mainly for gaming...bf4, cod, and new upcoming games

Hardware to reuse only keyboard and monitor using his tv...1080p I think...if not...maybe 720p..

Here's some setup that I manage to do on his budget by keeping it at the low side...please comment on the setup

CPU:Intel Core i5 4440 3.1Ghz RM579
Mobo:Asus B85M-G RM279
GPU:Sapphire R9 270x bf4 RM759
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RM239
PSU:FSP HEXA 500W RM149
Casing:CM elite 431 RM 159
HDD: 1tera RM 189
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Mouse:razer abyssus RM129 (HE WANT RAZER MOUSE TO PAIR WITH HIS RAZER KEYBOARD)

Total RM2541

Can the sound came out to the tv if connect via hdmi from tv to gc??

Will the gc have enough juice from the psu??

Can the gc support the resolution of the tv he will be using as his monitor for gaming??
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spadecrew, here are my answers to your questions:

Yes, if you connect the PC to the TV using HDMI, and you install the latest drivers, you will get sound coming out through the TV's speakers.

Yes, the 500W PSU is sufficient to power the R9 270X GPU.

Yes, the R9 270x is able to handle resolutions up to 1920x1080 (most common TVs 39" and above have this resolution), so it should not be any concern.

One thing to note, since you will be pairing the PC with a TV and could possibly use the PC to play TV shows or movies, then it might make sense to go for a very quiet card, and try to use low-noise components in your rig. The i5 is very quiet so no issues there, but I would be concerned on the sound from the Sapphire Dual-X fans, and also the FSP HEXA PSU. Maybe you might consider investing a little bit more budget to get a graphics card that is quiet from MSI (Twin Frozr), and maybe a Cooler Master M2 series PSU. I have experienced both before, and they were suitable for watching movies (totally cannot hear from more than 6 feet away).

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i wonder, any second hand monitor at lowyat?
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i wonder, any second hand monitor at lowyat?
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Yup.There is.Just proceed to the Garage Sales section.
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i wonder, any second hand monitor at lowyat?
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Here.
https://forum.lowyat.net/MonitorsGarageSales
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i know. already search it but what i mean is in lowyat kl. haha
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i know. already search it but what i mean is in lowyat kl. haha
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In LYP?I've no idea.You can ask the people who have went there before,i haven't.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(octavius_inc @ Mar 22 2014, 11:15 PM)
i know. already search it but what i mean is in lowyat kl. haha
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I don't think there is anybody in Lowyat KL selling second hand PC stuff. Phones yes. But otherwise I don't think so.

Unless you can ask some of the smaller shops in the back areas if they have any used monitors. Or buy a display unit for a lesser price.

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I've seen used laptops for sale before in Low Yat Plaza KL, but I've not seen used monitors. It is better to go into the Low Yat Net forums, in my opinion.

It is also not common for people to sell their monitors unless it is very old, maybe 4:3 aspect ratio monitors. Monitors are not upgraded as often.
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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Mar 22 2014, 10:32 AM)
hmm... you're upgrading from what? DDR2? what's the issue that you wanna perform an upgrade?
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 22 2014, 11:41 AM)
Unless you're getting the new generation X99 or Z89 or Haswell-E, no point getting DDR4. Will be expensive as hell too.
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why want to upgrade? ENVY whistling.gif

my system is actually ok. i3 3220, 4gb ram, R7870, b75 chipset mobo. but now when look at mitx build, i want it. haha tongue.gif
since my mobo is matx, there's no way it gonna fit in mitx case. that is the only reason.

suggestion, sifus here can provide choices for tower build or sff build. we might not ask, but who knows someone might like it. i came here one year ago to ask suggestion for my system and till now, i still visit, lurking in the dark. haha

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i know. already search it but what i mean is in lowyat kl. haha
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Yes.There are 2nd hand monitors at LYP.But the pricetag seems very wrong..almost the same like you're buying the new ones... sweat.gif usually,the pakistan's shop selling it.
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Kdr31, you're bringing up a good point ... In addition to the common assessment of performance and cost, there are also additional considerations that are important to how a person values their rig. Based on my experience, most people want a small rig, that's also quiet, in addition to being powerful enough for them to game as well as do their workstation tasks.

So low noise, and mITX criteria becomes important in addition to being powerful and cheap.

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[Budget] 2.5~2.7

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Anything to be reuse?? Monitor keyboard mouse speaker wifi dongle??
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Anything to be reuse?? Monitor keyboard mouse speaker wifi dongle??
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mouse sensei and headphone ss
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QUOTE(fateh @ Mar 23 2014, 03:30 PM)
mouse sensei and headphone ss
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Just Dota 2?

CPU:Intel Core i3 4130 3.4GHz RM369
Mobo:Asrock B85M-Pro4 RM279
GPU:Sapphire R9 270 BF4!! 2GB GDDR5 RM649
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM239
PSU:Antec VP-550 RM199
Casing:CM K380 RM149
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Monitor:Dell S2240L 21.5" RM489
Keyboard:Logitech Wireless K270 RM65
Wifi:TP-Link WN881ND RM49
Total:RM2735
Prices are from Viewnet. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 23 2014, 03:45 PM)
Just Dota 2?

CPU:Intel Core i3 4130 3.4GHz RM369
Mobo:Asrock B85M-Pro4 RM279
GPU:Sapphire R9 270 + BF4!! 2GB GDDR5 RM649
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM239
PSU:Antec VP-550 RM199
Casing:CM K380 RM149
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Monitor:Dell S2240L 21.5" RM489
Keyboard:Logitech Wireless K270 RM65
Wifi:TP-Link WN881ND RM49
Total:RM2735
Prices are from Viewnet. smile.gif
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You forgot the "+" later confuse the poor fella biggrin.gif
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You forgot the "+" later confuse the poor fella biggrin.gif
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biggrin.gif Of course all gamers know what is BF4.. thumbup.gif biggrin.gif
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Hi fellas, i need help and suggestions from u guys on building my very first rig pls imma noob. Im quite a gamer not the hardcore ones, current laptop (dell studio 15) is getting old and very lag while playing modern games and even dota2. Did some research and came out with the specs below. Any improvement or cheaper component to change, mobo with wifi or external wifi card better?

Budget around 2k+-

- amd fx6300 / amd athlon x4 750k 459
- msi 970A-g43 279
- radeon hd7790 389
- kingston value ram DDR3 1600mhzs 4gb 129
- WD 1TB Blue 185
- CM GX2 550w 279
- CM N200 M-ATX CASING 179
- aoc E2060 monitor 265


The prices are only for a rough calculation may not accurate tho.
Will the spec be able to play on high mix ultra setting in 1080p / 20 inch mon?
Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(Harooluvstar @ Mar 23 2014, 04:48 PM)
Hi fellas, i need help and suggestions from u guys on building my very first rig pls imma noob. Im quite a gamer not the hardcore ones, current laptop (dell studio 15) is getting old and very lag while playing modern games and even dota2. Did some research and came out with the specs below. Any improvement or cheaper component to change, mobo with wifi or external wifi card better? 

Budget around 2k+-

- amd fx6300 / amd athlon x4 750k  459
- msi 970A-g43            279
- radeon hd7790            389
- kingston value ram DDR3 1600mhzs 4gb 129
- WD 1TB Blue            185
- CM GX2 550w              279
- CM N200 M-ATX CASING    179
- aoc E2060 monitor            265
The prices are only for a rough calculation may not accurate tho.
Will the spec be able to play on high mix ultra setting in 1080p / 20 inch mon?
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For 2k go for an i3 build.

Proc - i3-4130 RM 369
Mobo - Asrock H81M-DHS RM 179
GPU - GTX 750 Ti Palit StormX Dual RM 560
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w RM 150
HDD - 1TB WD Blue RM 189
RAM - 4GB Value RAM RM 129
Casing - CM K280 RM 129
Monitor - AOC E2060 RM 265

RM 1970, prices from Viewnet except GPU from GBros in the forum here. This 750 Ti is one of the best currently at cheap and use low power consumption. Can play most game on a mix of high + ultra on 1080p easily with FXAA tho sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 23 2014, 04:59 PM)
For 2k go for an i3 build.

Proc - i3-4130 RM 369
Mobo - Asrock H81M-DGS RM 179
GPU - GTX 750 Ti Palit StormX Dual 2GB GDDR5 RM 560
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w RM 149
HDD - 1TB WD Blue  RM 189
RAM - Corsair 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz RM 129
Casing - CM K280 RM 129
Monitor - BenQ VW2245Z RM379

RM 2083, prices from Viewnet except GPU from GBros in the forum here. This 750 Ti is one of the best currently at cheap and use low power consumption. Can play most game on a mix of high + ultra on 1080p easily with FXAA tho sweat.gif
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Edited that haha,since the person that is asking says "Around 2K",i added changed the Monitor.. nod.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 23 2014, 03:45 PM)
Just Dota 2?

CPU:Intel Core i3 4130 3.4GHz RM369
Mobo:Asrock B85M-Pro4 RM279
GPU:Sapphire R9 270 BF4!! 2GB GDDR5 RM649
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM239
PSU:Antec VP-550 RM199
Casing:CM K380 RM149
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Monitor:Dell S2240L 21.5" RM489
Keyboard:Logitech Wireless K270 RM65
Wifi:TP-Link WN881ND RM49
Total:RM2735
Prices are from Viewnet. smile.gif
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what the different about amd FX 6350 and Core i5 4440.
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what the different about amd FX 6350 and Core i5 4440.
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FX6350 have 6 Cores,the Core i5 4440 have 4 Cores and 4 Threads.
Even though the FX6350 has more cores,it only beats the i3 4130 by just .01.. tongue.gif
i3 4130 vs FX6350 http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/356/AMD_F...i3_i3-4130.html

i5 4440 vs FX6350 http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/364/AMD_F...i5_i5-4440.html

Plus,Intel CPUs have lower power consumption.. :nod
Let's say,if you're going to get AMD FX8320 and MSI 970A-G43 motherboard,it's gonna be a bad decision.Since AMD FX8320 is a power hungry CPU,you need a Mobo with good VRM cooling(Is that how do you say it? unsure.gif ),if you use the MSI 970A-G43 mobo with AMD FX8320,it'll throttle the CPU.. sweat.gif It's better to get a Mobo with 8 or 8+2 VRM phase counts if u're gonna use AMD FX8xxx series and above. wink.gif

Here's more info about AMD CPUs motherboard VRM. wink.gif http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-moth...m-info-database

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 23 2014, 03:59 PM)
For 2k go for an i3 build.

Proc - i3-4130 RM 369
Mobo - Asrock H81M-DHS RM 179
GPU - GTX 750 Ti Palit StormX Dual RM 560
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w RM 150
HDD - 1TB WD Blue  RM 189
RAM - 4GB Value RAM RM 129
Casing - CM K280 RM 129
Monitor - AOC E2060 RM 265

RM 1970, prices from Viewnet except GPU from GBros in the forum here. This 750 Ti is one of the best currently at cheap and use low power consumption. Can play most game on a mix of high + ultra on 1080p easily with FXAA tho sweat.gif
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Is FSP Hexa 500w PSU trusted? Got Certificate?
Sorry me noob, but i3 can game? Will it bottleneck the graphix card? I choose all AMD i tot they are cheaper and more cores so worth the price since a budget build.
GTX 750ti is nice but how about HD 7850? RM35 cheaper drool.gif
card benchmark --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hc0xUReZwU
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Edited that haha,since the person that is asking says "Around 2K",i added changed the Monitor.. nod.gif  tongue.gif
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Lol! Like that also can ar... U help me changed to most not important component >.<!
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QUOTE(Harooluvstar @ Mar 23 2014, 06:13 PM)
Lol! Like that also can ar... U help me changed to most not important component >.<!
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Or u want the AOC monitor and get Sapphire R9 270 + BF4 2GB GDDR5 RM649? icon_idea.gif brows.gif
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Or u want the AOC monitor and get Sapphire R9 270 + BF4 2GB GDDR5 RM649? icon_idea.gif  brows.gif
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Only single 20inch monitor 1gb is more than enough lo..r9 270 2gb too overkilled.. ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(Harooluvstar @ Mar 23 2014, 06:07 PM)
Is FSP Hexa 500w PSU trusted? Got Certificate?
Sorry me noob, but i3 can game? Will it bottleneck the graphix card? I choose all AMD i tot they are cheaper and more cores so worth the price since a budget build.
GTX 750ti is nice but how about HD 7850? RM35 cheaper   drool.gif
card benchmark --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hc0xUReZwU
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Yes FSP Hexa 500w is a good and reliable PSU, it has the 80+ Bronze. i3 is more than enough to game. A game doesn't utilizes more than 2 cores #fact. Except games that's mostly the rpg genre which is skyrim etc etc. No it won't bottleneck with the 750Ti. And as per mention by Minecrafter Intel has uses less power than AMD processors.

About 750 Ti vs HD 7850. Here's the performance.
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 23 2014, 06:45 PM)
Yes FSP Hexa 500w is a good and reliable PSU, it has the 80+ Bronze. i3 is more than enough to game. A game doesn't utilizes more than 2 cores #fact. Except games that's mostly the rpg genre which is skyrim etc etc. No it won't bottleneck with the 750Ti. And as per mention by Minecrafter Intel has uses less power than AMD processors.

About 750 Ti vs HD 7850. Here's the performance.
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Can help recommend PSU ?

Power rating 550W ~ 650w

If value by money is what brand
If value by its quality is what brand
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Can help recommend PSU ?

Power rating 550W ~ 650w

If value by money is what brand
If value by its quality is what brand
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If no budget then i think Corsair cx series or Cooler Master.. LOL! Macam Yes.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 23 2014, 07:01 PM)
Can help recommend PSU ?

Power rating 550W ~ 650w

If value by money is what brand
If value by its quality is what brand
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Hmmm Corsair, Seasonic and FSP are good brands.
Value by money is either Seasonic or FSP.
Corsair is by quality, if you read their review on PSU are great. If want to know more visit here to see what kind of psu is bad
> http://www.johnnylucky.org/power-supplies/...lemon-list.html

So 650w right? Hmmm budget please?
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QUOTE(Harooluvstar @ Mar 23 2014, 07:27 PM)
If no budget then i think Corsair cx series or Cooler Master.. LOL! Macam Yes..  hmm.gif
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The Corsair CX series I think is obsolete now. If you are budget oriented, I would buy a CoolerMaster PSU today, if you are quality oriented, then Seasonic is the best in my opinion.
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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 23 2014, 08:12 PM)
The Corsair CX series I think is obsolete now.  If you are budget oriented, I would buy a CoolerMaster PSU today, if you are quality oriented, then Seasonic is the best in my opinion.
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A good entry level PSU..FSP Hexa 500W. wink.gif
CoolerMaster entry level/low end PSUs normally have problems.. sweat.gif Like Elite Power,Extreme2 and Extreme Power Plus... shakehead.gif
http://www.johnnylucky.org/power-supplies/...lemon-list.html
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 23 2014, 05:39 PM)
FX6350 have 6 Cores,the Core i5 4440 have 4 Cores and 4 Threads.
Even though the FX6350 has more cores,it only beats the i3 4130 by just .01..  tongue.gif
i3 4130 vs FX6350 http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/356/AMD_F...i3_i3-4130.html

i5 4440 vs FX6350 http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/364/AMD_F...i5_i5-4440.html

Plus,Intel CPUs have lower power consumption.. :nod
Let's say,if you're going to get AMD FX8320 and MSI 970A-G43 motherboard,it's gonna be a bad decision.Since AMD FX8320 is a power hungry CPU,you need a Mobo with good VRM cooling(Is that how do you say it? unsure.gif ),if you use the MSI 970A-G43 mobo with AMD FX8320,it'll throttle the CPU.. sweat.gif It's better to get a Mobo with 8 or 8+2 VRM phase counts if u're gonna use AMD FX8xxx series and above. wink.gif

Here's more info about AMD CPUs motherboard VRM. wink.gif http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-moth...m-info-database
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if 500w psu is enough?

Core i5 4440 and mobo msi Z87-G55. is it ok?

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 23 2014, 07:01 PM)
Can help recommend PSU ?

Power rating 550W ~ 650w

If value by money is what brand
If value by its quality is what brand
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QUOTE(Harooluvstar @ Mar 23 2014, 07:27 PM)
If no budget then i think Corsair cx series or Cooler Master.. LOL! Macam Yes..  hmm.gif
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Here's some good PSU :

FSP Hexa 500W PSU RM149
Gigabyte Powerock 500W RM170
Antec Strictly VP-550P RM199
FSP Raider 550W/650W RM225/259
Seasonic S12 II 620W RM299

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how much those this cost?
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QUOTE(fateh @ Mar 23 2014, 08:27 PM)
if 500w psu is enough?
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Yup,it is enough.Included a 550W incase u want extra headroom. wink.gif You can go for FSP Hexa 500W RM149 if u want. smile.gif

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[Purpose] wanna watch blu-ray video with desktop + surf net

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor dell S2440L, keyboard, maybe will use back old casing and HDD

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1200

[Games & softwares that use frequently] web game only

[Personal preferences] dell S2440L is having problem with Nvidia, so maybe i should use AMD if i wanna use HDMI ??


ODD : Asus BM-12B1ST Internal Blu-ray Writer RM359

prefer MoBo with HDMI output and usb 3.0 output
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 23 2014, 08:19 PM)
A good entry level PSU..FSP Hexa 500W. wink.gif
CoolerMaster entry level/low end PSUs normally have problems.. sweat.gif Like Elite Power,Extreme2 and Extreme Power Plus... shakehead.gif
http://www.johnnylucky.org/power-supplies/...lemon-list.html
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Minecrafter, you are correct, the low level PSU from CoolerMaster, or any brand for that matter, should be avoided.

CoolerMaster budget series should be the G-series at least, about RM240 for 600W.

The list that you are referring to has some reviews of power supplies from 5 to 6 years ago, and most of those power supplies are obsolete. So it is important to look at the current PSU that are being sold today, and try to look up reviews on the internet, especially those reviews that use proper tools to measure the PSU's performance.

I would not say that the list is indicative of the overall performance of a certain brand. Many brands today do not make their own power supplies, like CoolerMaster, or Corsair, so it is best to identify the specific PSU based on budget and/or performance, then check out for reviews that have actual power measurements.




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Hi everyone! New here, and wanting to try my hand at building PCs.

Budget: RM3k~3.5k

Purpose: Gaming, art/photo-editing (Photoshop), watching shows

Hardware to re-use: Keyboard and mouse, external DAC+amp (Schiit Modi and Magni)

Monitor resolution: 1080p, 1920x1200

Games & Software used frequently: DOTA2, Mass Effect trilogy, Photoshop, Microsoft Office, Mozilla Firefox. Currently playing Arkham Asylum, with a backlog of Arkham City, Assassin's Creed Revelations, DmC, Tomb Raider and Fallout.

Personal preferences: Should be able to run Frostbite 3 games (can't wait until DA:Inquisition and Mass Effect 4 are out! biggrin.gif), but I don't mind if I can't run them at ultra settings. Will also need wireless card.

Location: KL

Thanks for all the help!
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QUOTE(aeonsakura @ Mar 23 2014, 09:07 PM)
[Budget] 1.5k~2k

[Purpose] wanna watch blu-ray video with desktop + surf net

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor dell S2440L, keyboard, maybe will use back old casing and HDD

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1200

[Games & softwares that use frequently] web game only

[Personal preferences] dell S2440L is having problem with Nvidia, so maybe i should use  AMD if i wanna use HDMI ??
ODD : Asus BM-12B1ST Internal Blu-ray Writer RM359

prefer MoBo with HDMI output and usb 3.0 output
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This should be enough.. nod.gif

CPU:Intel G3220 3GHz RM179
Mobo:Asrock H87 Pro4 RM319
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM239
PSU:FSP Hexa 500W RM149
SSD:Intel 530 Series 240GB RM659
ODD:Asus BM-12B1ST Internal Blu-ray Writer RM359
Mouse:Logitech M100 RM19
Total:RM1923
ODD is from C-Zone,the rest are from Viewnet. smile.gif
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QUOTE(aeonsakura @ Mar 23 2014, 09:07 PM)
[Budget] 1.5k~2k

[Purpose] wanna watch blu-ray video with desktop + surf net

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor dell S2440L, keyboard, maybe will use back old casing and HDD

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1200

[Games & softwares that use frequently] web game only

[Personal preferences] dell S2440L is having problem with Nvidia, so maybe i should use  AMD if i wanna use HDMI ??
ODD : Asus BM-12B1ST Internal Blu-ray Writer RM359

prefer MoBo with HDMI output and usb 3.0 output
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aeonsakura, please help to advise what are the problems that Nvidia is having with the Dell S2440L monitor? It is surprising to me that Nvidia would have a problem with a monitor that is specific to Nvidia, and not any of other GPUs from AMD, or Intel.
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QUOTE(captainfate @ Mar 23 2014, 10:22 PM)
Hi everyone! New here, and wanting to try my hand at building PCs.

Budget: RM3k~3.5k

Purpose: Gaming, art/photo-editing (Photoshop), watching shows

Hardware to re-use: Keyboard and mouse, external DAC+amp (Schiit Modi and Magni)

Monitor resolution: 1080p, 1920x1200

Games & Software used frequently: DOTA2, Mass Effect trilogy, Photoshop, Microsoft Office, Mozilla Firefox. Currently playing Arkham Asylum, with a backlog of Arkham City, Assassin's Creed Revelations, DmC, Tomb Raider and Fallout.

Personal preferences: Should be able to run Frostbite 3 games (can't wait until DA:Inquisition and Mass Effect 4 are out! biggrin.gif), but I don't mind if I can't run them at ultra settings. Will also need wireless card.

Location: KL

Thanks for all the help!
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Mobo:Asrock H87 Pro4 RM319
GPU:Gainward GTX770 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 RM1199
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RM239
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM189
PSU:Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
Wifi Card:TP Link WN881ND RM49
Casing:CM K380 RM149
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 23 2014, 08:31 AM)
Kdr31, you're bringing up a good point ... In addition to the common assessment of performance and cost, there are also additional considerations that are important to how a person values their rig. Based on my experience, most people want a small rig, that's also quiet, in addition to being powerful enough for them to game as well as do their workstation tasks.

So low noise, and mITX criteria becomes important in addition to being powerful and cheap.
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small and powerful brows.gif . also easier to carry. i guess i go with upgrade my system then. so, anybody here wants to buy my current system? hehe
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small and powerful brows.gif . also easier to carry. i guess i go with upgrade my system then. so, anybody here wants to buy my current system? hehe
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Small form factor build are cheaper?
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aeonsakura, please help to advise what are the problems that Nvidia is having with the Dell S2440L monitor? It is surprising to me that Nvidia would have a problem with a monitor that is specific to Nvidia, and not any of other GPUs from AMD, or Intel.
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this is copy from comment from others :
If you're using an Nvidia GPU through HDMI, contrast ratios will reportedly be horrible unless you set the digital color format to "YCbCr444". (Credit to PC Monitor's review for this information).

i plug in hdmi, the black color cant be totally black.

btw, i try to adjust but fail, so i use back vga cable >.<

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quick question, will anyone actually want to use a AMD A10/A8 for gaming? As far as I acknowledge it is something R7 240/ R7 250?
My friend just went to a local shop and he got a list below which i am thinking it is kinda underwhelming... hmm.gif

A10 7770k - 589
8GB ram - 263
Asus A88XM-A - 319
CM casing N400 - 229
psu not listed
1TB hdd - 219
zalman cooler - 149

1768

.........

I am thinking better grab i3 + R9 270 if under RM2000. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Harooluvstar @ Mar 23 2014, 10:49 PM)
Small form factor build are cheaper?
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i'm not sure. the difference are the mobo and case. it could be higher, it could be cheaper. i think the cheapest mitx case is CM elite 120. im not sure the price tho. i dont usually look at the price.
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QUOTE(Harooluvstar @ Mar 23 2014, 10:49 PM)
Small form factor build are cheaper?
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i'm not sure. the difference are the mobo and case. it could be higher, it could be cheaper. i think the cheapest mitx case is CM elite 120. im not sure the price tho. i dont usually look at the price.
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QUOTE(M1X @ Mar 23 2014, 10:55 PM)
quick question, will anyone actually want to use a AMD A10/A8 for gaming? As far as I acknowledge it is something R7 240/ R7 250?
My friend just went to a local shop and he got a list below which i am thinking it is kinda underwhelming...  hmm.gif

A10 7770k - 589
8GB ram - 263
Asus A88XM-A - 319
CM casing N400 - 229
psu not listed
1TB hdd - 219
zalman cooler - 149

1768

.........

I am thinking better grab i3 + R9 270 if under RM2000.  hmm.gif
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I would get this instead.

CPU:Intel Core i3 4130 3.4GHz RM369
Mobo:Asrock B85M-Pro4 RM279
GPU:Sapphire R9 270 + BF4 2GB GDDR5 RM649
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM239
PSU:FSP Hexa 500W RM149
Casing:CM K380 RM149
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Total:RM2082
Prices are from Viewnet.
I'd only get APUs if my budget is tight,or i wanna build a HTPC.. wink.gif
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GPU:Sapphire R9 270 + BF4 2GB GDDR5 RM649


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QUOTE(aeonsakura @ Mar 23 2014, 10:54 PM)
this is copy from comment from others :
If you're using an Nvidia GPU through HDMI, contrast ratios will reportedly be horrible unless you set the digital color format to "YCbCr444". (Credit to PC Monitor's review for this information).

i plug in hdmi, the black color cant be totally black.

btw, i try to adjust but fail, so i use back vga cable >.<
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Thanks for the feedback. The Nvidia compressed RGB issue has been well documented for years, and the latest drivers require changing from "RGB" to "YCbCr444" to enable improved contrast and color performance. This issue is not specific to Dell S2440L, but all monitors in general, including HDTVs. I am using a Nvidia card with a Panasonic plasma TV, and YCbCr444 is enabled for better picture quality.

There are also many other settings to calibrate to obtain the best black level performance from your monitor. Generally, HDMI or DVI (digital signal) will provide better picture quality compared to VGA (analog signal), so I would still recommend using HDMI connection, and then properly calibrating the system, including using YCbCr444 in the Nvidia drivers, and doing the proper contrast and brightness calibration on the monitor (if possible).
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In LYP?I've no idea.You can ask the people who have went there before,i haven't.. sweat.gif
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where u buy your stuff from minecrafter?.
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i'm not sure. the difference are the mobo and case. it could be higher, it could be cheaper. i think the cheapest mitx case is CM elite 120. im not sure the price tho. i dont usually look at the price.
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Generally, for the same level of performance, the smaller form factor build will be slightly more expensive, due to the motherboard, and casing. For example, an iTX motherboard will generally be more expensive than an equivalent mATX motherboard, and nice iTX cases are slightly more expensive than mATX cases as well. Also, the iTX build will normally be more difficult to cool, and this will need more careful selection of components to maintain the same level of performance and/or reliability.

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how to change to YCbCr444?

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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 23 2014, 11:27 PM)
Generally, for the same level of performance, the smaller form factor build will be slightly more expensive, due to the motherboard, and casing.  For example, an iTX motherboard will generally be more expensive than an equivalent mATX motherboard, and nice iTX cases are slightly more expensive than mATX cases as well.  Also, the iTX build will normally be more difficult to cool, and this will need more careful selection of components to maintain the same level of performance and/or reliability.
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I know. from what i see, most of the mitx build is pricier than matx build. it also offer less expandability than matx and atx board. small system doesn't mean small budget
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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 23 2014, 08:28 PM)
Here's some good PSU :

FSP Hexa 500W PSU RM149
Gigabyte Powerock 500W RM170
Antec Strictly VP-550P RM199
FSP Raider 550W/650W RM225/259
Seasonic S12 II 620W RM299
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The above all is non modular PSU right ?

if I wan choose a modular or semi modular PSU power supply also around 550w - 650w which one should I choose ?

Do you guys take the 80 plus platnium, gold, silver, bronze into consideration?

Btw all pro stfu use fully modular/modular/semi-modular/non mudular PSU?

Sorry keep asking question but I am new to building these kinda gigs
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 24 2014, 06:49 AM)
The above all is non modular PSU right ?

if I wan choose a modular or semi modular PSU power supply also around 550w - 650w which one should I choose ?

Do you guys take the 80 plus platnium, gold, silver, bronze into consideration?

Btw all pro stfu use fully modular/modular/semi-modular/non mudular PSU?

Sorry keep asking question but I am new to building these kinda gigs
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Semi Modular and Full Modular are expensive imo. Just stick with the normal Non Modular PSU. To me Full Modular or Semi Modular only to increase the airflow of your casing and space saving in ITX build and also easier psu removal. But there is a disadvantages in those as well such as the cable if failure to one of the cable can cause damage to the psu. 80+ Efficiency is dependable. To me bronze is enough actually. Unless you're doing an AMD Build with 4xTitan might want to get a 1000w 80+ Gold biggrin.gif

Read here > https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2620035

It got more explanation. And lastly if you're new to these kinda gigs just go with a non modular PSU, easier to handle cause you don't need to know what cable goes where and you put the wrong cable yada yada etc etc~
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 07:22 AM)
Semi Modular and Full Modular are expensive imo. Just stick with the normal Non Modular PSU. To me Full Modular or Semi Modular only to increase the airflow of your casing and space saving in ITX build and also easier psu removal. But there is a disadvantages in those as well such as the cable if failure to one of the cable can cause damage to the psu. 80+ Efficiency is dependable. To me bronze is enough actually. Unless you're doing an AMD Build with 4xTitan might want to get a 1000w 80+ Gold biggrin.gif

Read here > https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2620035

It got more explanation. And lastly if you're new to these kinda gigs just go with a non modular PSU, easier to handle cause you don't need to know what cable goes where and you put the wrong cable yada yada etc etc~
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Thanks for the explanation
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[Budget]
RM2500-3000
[Purpose]
Dota 2
Movie
[Hardwares that will be re-use]
cooler master 550w
[Monitor resolution]
suggest..not including in budget
[Games & softwares that use frequently]
dota 2
torrent
[Personal preferences]
best for buck..atlease dont need to upgrade for 2 years
dont do OC and quite system
[Location]
KL
tq

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where u buy your stuff from minecrafter?.
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how to change to YCbCr444?
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Go to the Nvidia Control Panel, then under "Display", look for "Adjust desktop color settings", then look for "Digital color format", and select "YCbCr444".

If your drivers do not have this setting, then there are three possibilities I know of:

1. You do not have the correct monitor driver installed, or
2. Your display does not support the YCbCR444 mode, or
3. You are not connected using HDMI between graphics card and the display

All the later versions of Nvidia graphics card support the YCbCr444 format, unless your Nvidia card is from more than 5 years ago.
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QUOTE(elanessar @ Mar 24 2014, 08:40 AM)
[Budget]
RM2500-3000
[Purpose]
Dota 2
Movie
[Hardwares that will be re-use]
cooler master 550w
[Monitor resolution]
suggest..not including in budget
[Games & softwares that use frequently]
dota 2
torrent
[Personal preferences]
best for buck..atlease dont need to upgrade for 2 years
dont do OC and quite system
[Location]
KL
tq
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Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - Asrock B85M Pro 4 RM 279
GPU - Gainward GTX 760 RM 799
PSU - Seasonic S12 II 620 RM 299
HD - WD Blue 1TB RM 189
RAM - 8 GB RAM Value RAM RM 239
Casing - Bitfenix Shadow RM 229
Monitor - ??? out of my specialty.

Without monitor RM 2,613
All prices are from Viewnet. Except GPU and Casing from Idealtech.
Edit Forgot your Monitor doh.gif

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 09:02 AM)
Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - Asrock B85M Pro 4 RM 279
GPU - Gainward GTX 760 RM 799
PSU - Seasonic S12 II 620 RM 299
HD - WD Blue 1TB RM 189
RAM - 8 GB RAM Value RAM RM 239
Casing - Bitfenix Shadow RM 229
Monitor - ??? out of my specialty.

Without monitor RM 2,613
All prices are from Viewnet. Except GPU and Casing from Idealtech.
Edit Forgot your Monitor doh.gif
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so my psu cm 550w not advice to reuse?
if i opt for i5 4670k will it be a waste?
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I have some old stuff but not sure which to use back. I would like to have some recommendation on this. My budget is as low as possible since it's for some simple work biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 24 2014, 06:49 AM)
The above all is non modular PSU right ?

if I wan choose a modular or semi modular PSU power supply also around 550w - 650w which one should I choose ?

Do you guys take the 80 plus platnium, gold, silver, bronze into consideration?

Btw all pro stfu use fully modular/modular/semi-modular/non mudular PSU?

Sorry keep asking question but I am new to building these kinda gigs
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kelv1983, here are my inputs to your questions:

1. If you stick with Seasonic brand, you would be in good shape. Buy a good Seasonic PSU, and you will be able to re-use it again, and again

2. Yes, I do take into account the 80+ ratings. Not because of efficiency alone (it doesn't make too much of a difference in terms of power consumption between silver and gold, for example, unless you are running your PC full load 24/7), but because:
- Circuit design and components of silver, gold, and platinum PSUs have much better performance as well as quality.
- Gold and Platinum PSUs normally are quieter because they run cooler, and do not have to use the fan as much.
- Platinum is overkill, as it costs to much in my opinion for the difference between gold and platinum.

3. Yes, I use and prefer to recommend only semi-modular, or modular PSUs. This is because:
- Semi-modular and modular PSUs are of the higher grade PSUs from a certain manufacturer, example, it is hard to find non-modular gold or platinum PSU
- Semi-modular and modular PSUs allow you to use only the cables you need, so cable management is easier, and air flow is better, especially if you want to build a smaller PC in the future and re-use the PSU

In summary, a Seasonic gold modular PSU is one the better investments to make, especially if you use your rig for gaming. I have been using gold Seasonic PSUs since the first X-series came out.

However, in the end, when you have narrowed down the PSU selection to what you would like to get, search around the internet for the electrical and noise measurements, and hopefully an understanding of the PSU circuit design, and confirm that the PSU is good, before buying.

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QUOTE(elanessar @ Mar 24 2014, 09:18 AM)
so my psu cm 550w not advice to reuse?
if i opt for i5 4670k will it be a waste?
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You're not in oc-ing right? The 4670k is a waste if you're not OC-ing. CM 550w what series? The 1st line of GX not that good. The seasonic that I recommended has more juice and enough to get your system going.
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 09:24 AM)
You're not in oc-ing right? The 4670k is a waste if you're not OC-ing. CM 550w what series? The 1st line of GX not that good. The seasonic that I recommended has more juice and enough to get your system going.
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hehe..sorry it's been 7 years didnt build any rig..thanks mate for ur recommendation
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QUOTE(elanessar @ Mar 24 2014, 09:30 AM)
hehe..sorry it's been 7 years didnt build any rig..thanks mate for ur recommendation
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Aye, it's ok lad biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 09:38 AM)
Aye, it's ok lad biggrin.gif
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if using 4670 mobo need to change?
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QUOTE(elanessar @ Mar 24 2014, 09:51 AM)
if using 4670 mobo need to change?
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No need they both use the LGA 1150 socket. IMO i5-4440 is enough already. If you're hardcore in game why not invest more into gpu. Most games don't use up to 2 cores. Till recently big games like BF4 with big open world utilize more core afaik hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 10:11 AM)
No need they both use the LGA 1150 socket. IMO i5-4440 is enough already. If you're hardcore in game why not invest more into gpu. Most games don't use up to 2 cores. Till recently big games like BF4 with big open world utilize more core afaik hmm.gif
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understood...any recommendation on cpu or proc cooling?n FSP raider 650w is ok?
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QUOTE(elanessar @ Mar 24 2014, 10:13 AM)
understood...any recommendation on cpu or proc cooling?n FSP raider 650w is ok?
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for stock settings, you can use stock cooler, it's sufficient wink.gif and yes the FSP Raider 650W is a very good PSU
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Currently choosing between r9 280x or gtx760
I heard that amd is working mantel technology that make gpu work at console efficiency
Do I need to sacrifice my cpu to get that ...
Really tight budget here 2.7k without
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QUOTE(Kent93 @ Mar 24 2014, 10:46 AM)
Currently choosing between r9 280x or gtx760
I heard that amd is working mantel technology that make gpu work at console efficiency
Do I need to sacrifice my cpu to get that ...
Really tight budget  here 2.7k without
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Umm,the R9 280X beats the GTX760.. tongue.gif

Blue-Reference
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CPU:Intel Core i5 4440 3.1GHz RM579
Mobo:Asrock B85M-Pro4 RM279
GPU:Gainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 RM849
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHZ RM239
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM189
PSU:Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
Casing:Corsair Carbide 200r RM229
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Total:RM2722
GPU is from Lingloong @GS,the rest are from Viewnet.
Btw,what's your usage?Do u need a monitor?

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hi guys, need opinion from expert out there..want to do a custom pc..mostly gaming,downloading watching movies only. Games normally DOta2,COD,MOH,Batman and all the FPS shooting game..so i wanted good graphic. Does this spec good or can be minimised?

Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - ASUS Z87-PRO RM749
GPU - ASUS GTX750 TI oc RM 645
PSU - CORSAIR VS SERIES 650W RM 229
HD - WD Blue 1TB RM 189
RAM - 8 GB RAM Value RAM RM 239
Casing - THERMALTAKE MS - I RM 199
Monitor - Dell 23EA53V led ips RM519
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QUOTE(rusty27 @ Mar 24 2014, 10:57 AM)
hi guys, need opinion from expert out there..want to do a custom pc..mostly gaming,downloading watching movies only. Games normally DOta2,COD,MOH,Batman and all the FPS shooting game..so i wanted good graphic. Does this spec good or can be minimised?

Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - ASUS Z87-PRO  RM749
GPU - ASUS GTX750 TI oc RM 645
PSU - CORSAIR VS SERIES 650W RM 229
HD - WD Blue 1TB RM 189
RAM - 8 GB RAM Value RAM RM 239
Casing - THERMALTAKE MS - I RM 199
Monitor - Dell 23EA53V led ips RM519
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Graphic card is sadly, overpriced. Also, overpriced motherboard as well. What is your max budget? smile.gif
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 24 2014, 10:58 AM)
Graphic card is sadly, overpriced. Also, overpriced motherboard as well. What is your max budget? smile.gif
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alamak overpriced ka? my budget is rm3k..can suggest better one? Thanks in advance
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QUOTE(rusty27 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:00 AM)
alamak overpriced ka? my budget is rm3k..can suggest better one? Thanks in advance
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Here you go. wink.gif

Intel Core i5 4440 - RM579
Asrock B85M Pro4 – RM279
Corsair Value Ram 8GB DDR3 1600MHz - RM239
Zotac GTX 760 2GB – RM799 (Cycom)
FSP Hexa 500W PSU - RM149
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD - RM189
Cooler Master K380 Casing - RM149
Viewsonic VX2370S 23" IPS LED - RM499
Lite-On 24x DVDRW – RM59

Total - RM2941 (prices are from Viewnet)

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QUOTE(rusty27 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:00 AM)
alamak overpriced ka? my budget is rm3k..can suggest better one? Thanks in advance
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CPU:Intel Core i5 4440 3.1GHz RM579
Mobo:Asrock B85M Pro4 RM279
GPU:Gainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 RM849
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RM239
HDD:WD Caviar Blue TB RM189
PSU:Antec VP-550 RM199
Casing:CM K380 RM149
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Monitor:LG 23EA53V 23' RM519
Total:RM3061
GPU is from Lingloong @GS,the rest are from Viewnet. wink.gif

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Hmm then can I build the gaming rig with 2.7k budget
with r9 280x
I would to ask those second hand 23' mmonitor is it okay to buy at garage sale any around 400?
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QUOTE(rusty27 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:00 AM)
alamak overpriced ka? my budget is rm3k..can suggest better one? Thanks in advance
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just need to mod a bit from your spec

Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - MSI B85M-G43 RM289
GPU - SAPPHIRE R9 270X RM 759
PSU - FSP Raider 650W RM 269
HD - WD Blue 1TB RM 189
RAM - 8 GB RAM Value RAM RM 239
Casing - BitFenix Merc Alpha RM140
Monitor - Dell 23EA53V led ips RM519

RM2983
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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:09 AM)
just need to mod a bit from your spec

Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - MSI B85M-G43 RM289
GPU - SAPPHIRE R9 270X RM 759
PSU - FSP Raider 650W RM 269
HD - WD Blue 1TB RM 189
RAM - 8 GB RAM Value RAM RM 239
Casing - BitFenix Merc Alpha RM140
Monitor - Dell 23EA53V led ips RM519

RM2983
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Umm,that monitor is from LG la.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:03 AM)
Here you go. wink.gif

Intel Core i5 4440 - RM579
Asrock B85M Pro4 – RM279
Corsair Value Ram 8GB DDR3 1600MHz - RM239
Zotac GTX 760 2GB – RM799 (Cycom)
FSP Hexa 500W PSU - RM149
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD - RM189
Cooler Master K380 Casing - RM149
Viewsonic VX2370S 23" IPS LED - RM499
Lite-On 24x DVDRW – RM59

Total - RM2941 (prices are from Viewnet)
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 24 2014, 11:05 AM)
CPU:Intel Core i5 4440 3.1GHz RM579
Mobo:Asrock B85M Pro4 RM279
GPU:Gainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 RM849
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RM239
HDD:WD Caviar Blue TB RM189
PSU:Antec VP-550 RM199
Casing:CM K380 RM149
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Monitor:LG 23EA53V 23' RM519
Total:RM3061
GPU is from Lingloong @GS,the rest are from Viewnet. wink.gif
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Thanks for the reply guys. I tought ASUS is a good brand and worth to buy.Tatz y picked ASUS MOBO n GPU
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QUOTE(rusty27 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:10 AM)
Thanks for the reply guys. I tought ASUS is a good brand and worth to buy.Tatz y picked ASUS MOBO n GPU
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Psst,you don't need a Z87 motherboard unless you are Overclocking.. wink.gif
I saw someone's signature on the forum,he has an i3 with a Z87 mobo.. doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(rusty27 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:10 AM)
Thanks for the reply guys. I tought ASUS is a good brand and worth to buy.Tatz y picked ASUS MOBO n GPU
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Asus Mobo and gpu are overpriced. But they do have a sexy smexy killer red looking fan for their gpu drool.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 24 2014, 11:10 AM)
Umm,that monitor is from LG la.. tongue.gif
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Lol yeah, wasn't paying attention to everything, Thanks!
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Asus Mobo and gpu are overpriced. But they do have a sexy smexy killer red looking fan for their gpu drool.gif
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Lol yeah, wasn't paying attention to everything, Thanks!
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Ayee,remember this?Better isn't it? flex.gif  biggrin.gif
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post Mar 24 2014, 11:20 AM

I find your lack of faith disturbing!
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 11:12 AM)
Asus Mobo and gpu are overpriced. But they do have a sexy smexy killer red looking fan for their gpu drool.gif
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Actually, Asus GPUs tend to be more expensive, but it is often for a good reason. They are usually very solid, have superb cooling solution and an extra year of warranty from what we usually recommend here. smile.gif

It's sad that our local pricing for Asus is on the high side here, hence most of the time we need to stick to recommending those more affordable brands like Sapphire, Leadtek or Gainward. But if there is very marginal difference in pricing compared to Asus, then the choice is really clear.
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:20 AM)
Actually, Asus GPUs tend to be more expensive, but it is often for a good reason. They are usually very solid, have superb cooling solution and an extra year of warranty from what we usually recommend here. smile.gif 

It's sad that our local pricing for Asus is on the high side here, hence most of the time we need to stick to recommending those more affordable brands like Sapphire, Leadtek or Gainward. But if there is very marginal difference in pricing compared to Asus, then the choice is really clear.
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:20 AM)
Actually, Asus GPUs tend to be more expensive, but it is often for a good reason. They are usually very solid, have superb cooling solution and an extra year of warranty from what we usually recommend here. smile.gif 

It's sad that our local pricing for Asus is on the high side here, hence most of the time we need to stick to recommending those more affordable brands like Sapphire, Leadtek or Gainward. But if there is very marginal difference in pricing compared to Asus, then the choice is really clear.
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The 290X Matrix have GTX780Ti Matrix cooler/heatpipes.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 11:22 AM)
Yea I heard that Asus cooling is one of the best other than EVGA. They also have superb oc'ing capabilities right?
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Actually MSI's TwinFrozr IV is also another excellent cooler, along with Windforce 3X and Sapphire Tri-X. Some of the better ones I can recall at the moment. tongue.gif

OC'ing abilities is really sometimes like a silicone lottery. Sometimes the chip just wouldn't go any higher. sweat.gif And also may be due to Nvidia's restrictions on pumping in more voltage. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 24 2014, 11:28 AM)
The 290X Matrix have GTX780Ti Matrix cooler/heatpipes.. tongue.gif
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I think that is probably a design limitation on their part. Noticed that the clock speed isn't any faster than the regular DCUII 290X, but how come temperature increased by so much? Really mind boggling.

Overall, DCUII are among the better ones out there and I stand by this point, having run so many cards before, I really find them to be significantly superior when you compare them with those more economical solutions that I mentioned earlier. You try comparing DCUII with Dual-X and you will understand what I mean.

Edit: Just recalled something on top of my head. Problem with the latest gen DCUII cooler used on Hawaii cards is that it is actually a respin from existing DCUII used on bigger Kepler GK110 chips (e.g GTX 780 / Ti). So you will see that 2 of its 5 heatpipes doesn't contact fully with the slightly smaller die size of the Hawaii chip, so that is waste, really. But fully understandable on Asus' part, creating a new cooler purely just for Hawaii may create unnecessary excess inventory. That's why you see them do what they do.

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 24 2014, 11:28 AM)
The 290X Matrix have GTX780Ti Matrix cooler/heatpipes.. tongue.gif
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Damn matrix that hot?! Better invest in on either Asus or MSI to play game on 24/3 whistling.gif 3 DAY NON STOP SKYRIM for me huehuehuehue if I have the money cry.gif
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:32 AM)
I think that is probably a design limitation on their part. Noticed that the clock speed isn't any faster than the regular DCUII 290X, but how come temperature increased by so much? Really mind boggling.

Overall, DCUII are among the better ones out there and I stand by this point, having run so many cards before, I really find them to be significantly superior when you compare them with those more economical solutions that I mentioned earlier. You try comparing DCUII with Dual-X and you will understand what I mean.
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I noticed that,it kinda makes me think Asus favours NVidia more than AMD.. biggrin.gif

Yup,DCUII are also fine. nod.gif

Latest collection,Zotac GTX780 AMP! ?Saw that on your siggy.. tongue.gif

EDIT reply:If Asus makes new DCUII cooler for Hawaii GPUs,then it will cost some money. hmm.gif If the Hawaii is the same size as GK110,then i think it could be..fine. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 11:34 AM)
Damn matrix that hot?! Better invest in on either Asus or MSI to play game on 24/3 whistling.gif 3 DAY NON STOP SKYRIM for me huehuehuehue if I have the money cry.gif
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ASUS trying to be lazy and tries to cut cost... icon_idea.gif
Using the 780Ti cooler on a 290X GPU... shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 11:34 AM)
Damn matrix that hot?! Better invest in on either Asus or MSI to play game on 24/3 whistling.gif 3 DAY NON STOP SKYRIM for me huehuehuehue if I have the money cry.gif
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LAWL!Matrix is Asus's.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 24 2014, 11:55 AM)
LAWL!Matrix is Asus's.. tongue.gif
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I know that, but didn't I tell you I'm more nvidia than amd whistling.gif
Edit 2nd, I think that Asus really gave most of amd cards not that much cooling whistling.gif

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:50 AM)
ASUS trying to be lazy and tries to cut cost... icon_idea.gif
Using the 780Ti cooler on a 290X GPU...  shakehead.gif
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If I am not mistaken Gigabyte does the same for its WindForce 3X coolers on both 780Ti and 290X. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 24 2014, 12:01 PM)
If I am not mistaken Gigabyte does the same for its WindForce 3X coolers on both 780Ti and 290X.  sweat.gif
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Okay.. tongue.gif
It's around 15-20C cooler than Matrix 290X..

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 24 2014, 11:40 AM)
I noticed that,it kinda makes me think Asus favours NVidia more than AMD.. biggrin.gif

Yup,DCUII are also fine. nod.gif

Latest collection,Zotac GTX780 AMP! ?Saw that on your siggy.. tongue.gif

EDIT reply:If Asus makes new DCUII cooler for Hawaii GPUs,then it will cost some money. hmm.gif If the Hawaii is the same size as GK110,then i think it could be..fine. hmm.gif
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Nah, all that matters to them is dollars and cents, and unlike any of us, they don't favour anyone.

Nvidia came out first with the GPU upon which the latest gen DCUII was based upon, so I do not think they will purposely create another design just for Hawaii. They just adapt the cooler so that it can be used for Hawaii as well. They would indefinitely do so even if it's the other way around.
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guys..between plextor m5s and intel 530 series..which one should i get? from what i read on the net, plextor's advantage is the extra size while for intel is on the write speed...
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 24 2014, 01:24 PM)
guys..between plextor m5s and intel 530 series..which one should i get? from what i read on the net, plextor's advantage is the extra size while for intel is on the write speed...
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Well if you want faster open file/boot windows then the intel. Plextor....can't say tho hmm.gif
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Well if you want faster open file/boot windows then the intel. Plextor....can't say tho hmm.gif
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 24 2014, 01:24 PM)
guys..between plextor m5s and intel 530 series..which one should i get? from what i read on the net, plextor's advantage is the extra size while for intel is on the write speed...
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Well if you want faster open file/boot windows then the intel. Plextor....can't say tho hmm.gif
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M5S-Good Price/Performance ratio.. brows.gif  icon_idea.gif
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hi i'm new here nk tanya psal asus g56jr berbaloi ke klau beli untuk game and progamming?
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hi i'm new here nk tanya psal asus g56jr berbaloi ke klau beli untuk game and progamming?
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Laptop?depends..lebih kepada mobility,angkat laptop.No mobile,so PC jauh lebih bagus..
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i'm going to study science computer and need to buy laptop for progamming tpi nk guna untuk gaming gk bleh bgi cadangan x?
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gaming is do-able but not advisable, they run hotter and battery life is almost always not enough... and they're more expensive... what's your budget for this gaming laptop?
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 09:02 AM)
Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - Asrock B85M Pro 4 RM 279
GPU - Gainward GTX 760 RM 799
PSU - Seasonic S12 II 620 RM 299
HD - WD Blue 1TB RM 189
RAM - 8 GB RAM Value RAM RM 239
Casing - Bitfenix Shadow RM 229
Monitor - ??? out of my specialty.

Without monitor RM 2,613
All prices are from Viewnet. Except GPU and Casing from Idealtech.
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From what I know it cant be OC right? Is it because of the price or is it because of performance ? If wish to have a OC processor what kinda processor will you advice ?


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agak2 berapa harga nnti masuk malaysia?
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 24 2014, 04:09 PM)
Alot people seems recommend i5-4440 for processor
From what I know it cant be OC right? Is it because of the price or is it because of performance ?  If wish to have a OC processor what kinda processor will you advice ?
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the i5-4440 is the non k variant of the new i5 haswell cpu which means it's non overclockable(as it has locked multiplier) , it has a base clock frequency 3.1ghz but it can boost up to 3.3GHZ when you're doing heavy task like gaming, rendering etc..

well you can take the i5-4670K and pair it with a Z87 chipset mobo. If you're on a budget can get the Asrock Z87 Pro or the Extreme series.
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QUOTE(luqakim @ Mar 24 2014, 04:16 PM)
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For 2k go for an i3 build.

Proc - i3-4130 RM 369
Mobo - Asrock H81M-DHS RM 179
GPU - GTX 750 Ti Palit StormX Dual RM 560
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w RM 150
HDD - 1TB WD Blue  RM 189
RAM - 4GB Value RAM RM 129
Casing - CM K280 RM 129
Monitor - AOC E2060 RM 265
That mobo only has 1 PCI slot, i prefer more than 1 cause in future might install sound / wifi card.. atx, matx also can, or any build in wifi to recommend?
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QUOTE(Harooluvstar @ Mar 24 2014, 04:37 PM)
That mobo only has 1 PCI slot, i prefer more than 1 cause in future might install sound / wifi card.. atx, matx also can, or any build in wifi to recommend?
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Hmm more PCI yes? Asrock B85 Killer RM 299. It has 1 PCIE 3.0x16, PCIE 2.0x16, PCIEx1 [ 2 ] and 3 PCI.
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Hi, im asking behalf of my friend. He need gaming rig that equipped with GTX Titan. I also dont know the best proc,mobo,psu that can support Titan. Can anyone recommend the other component. Try to be budget as can. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(killer zone II @ Mar 24 2014, 08:25 PM)
Hi, im asking behalf of my friend. He need gaming rig that equipped with GTX Titan. I also dont know the best proc,mobo,psu that can support Titan. Can anyone recommend the other component. Try to be budget as can. biggrin.gif
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No need for Titan in gaming rig,it'll be a waste IMO.Even R9 290X beats it.. tongue.gif brows.gif icon_idea.gif
Please state your budget,we can't do anything without a budget.. whistling.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 24 2014, 08:32 PM)
No need for Titan in gaming rig,it'll be a waste IMO.Even R9 290X beats it.. tongue.gif  brows.gif  icon_idea.gif
Please state your budget,we can't do anything without a budget.. whistling.gif  sweat.gif
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Dude 780 Ti still the king whistling.gif This king only lost to the dual combo which is 690 and 7990 whistling.gif
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Dude 780 Ti still the king whistling.gif This king only lost to the dual combo which is 690 and 7990 whistling.gif
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Of course i know.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 24 2014, 08:32 PM)
No need for Titan in gaming rig,it'll be a waste IMO.Even R9 290X beats it.. tongue.gif  brows.gif  icon_idea.gif
Please state your budget,we can't do anything without a budget.. whistling.gif  sweat.gif
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He Nvidia fan. As for budget, prefer lowest as can. No need to put performance ram, etc. Casing, Monitor and peripheral he got his own choice ady. Intel i5 with B85 mobo can support Titan? sweat.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(killer zone II @ Mar 24 2014, 08:37 PM)
He Nvidia fan. As for budget, prefer lowest as can. No need to put performance ram, etc. Casing, Monitor and peripheral he got his own choice ady. Intel i5 with B85 mobo can support Titan?  sweat.gif   laugh.gif
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Tell your friend pfft Laugh at Titan and say to him Praise the GTX 780 TI tongue.gif

Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - Asrock B85M-Pro 4 RM 279
GPU - GTX 780 TI RM 2290
PSU - Seasonic SI2 II 620w RM 299
HDD - 1TB WD Blue RM 189
RAM - 8 GB Value RAM RM 239

Prices are from Viewnet, except GPU from Zotac GTX 780 TI from GBros.

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Tell your friend pfft Laugh at Titan and say to him Praise the GTX 780 TI tongue.gif

Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - Asrock B85M-Pro 4 RM 279
GPU - GTX 780 TI RM 2290
PSU - Seasonic SI2 II 620w RM 299
HDD - 1TB WD Blue RM 189
RAM - 8 GB Value RAM RM 239

Prices are from Viewnet, except GPU from Zotac GTX 780 TI from GBros.
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Thanks bro. Yep. Just saw few review. GTX 780 Ti owning Titan with about 1k lesser. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(killer zone II @ Mar 24 2014, 08:37 PM)
He Nvidia fan. As for budget, prefer lowest as can. No need to put performance ram, etc. Casing, Monitor and peripheral he got his own choice ady. Intel i5 with B85 mobo can support Titan?  sweat.gif  laugh.gif
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CPU:Intel Core i5 4440 3.1Ghz RM579
Mobo:Asrock H87 Pro4 RM319
GPU:Zotac GTX780Ti AMP! 3GB GDDR5 RM2459
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RM239
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM189
SSD:Plextor M5S 128GB RM289
PSU:Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
Casing:Corsair Carbide 200R RM229
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Total:RM4661
GPU is from Cycom,the rest are from Viewnet. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 08:42 PM)
Tell your friend pfft Laugh at Titan and say to him Praise the GTX 780 TI tongue.gif

Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - Asrock B85M-Pro 4 RM 279
GPU - GTX 780 TI RM 2290
PSU - Seasonic SI2 II 620w RM 299
HDD - 1TB WD Blue RM 189
RAM - 8 GB Value RAM RM 239

Prices are from Viewnet, except GPU from Zotac GTX 780 TI from GBros.
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Is that AMP! or reference?
Btw..Tak Mau SSD?! doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 24 2014, 08:48 PM)
CPU:Intel Core i5 4440 3.1Ghz RM579
Mobo:Asrock H87 Pro4 RM319
GPU:Zotac GTX780Ti AMP! 3GB GDDR5 RM2459
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RM239
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM189
SSD:Plextor M5S 128GB RM289
PSU:Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
Casing:Corsair Carbide 200R RM229
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Total:RM4661
GPU is from Cycom,the rest are from Viewnet. wink.gif
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Dude, he said that his friend already choosed the casing etc etc
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 24 2014, 08:49 PM)
Is that AMP! or reference?
Btw..Tak Mau SSD?! doh.gif  doh.gif
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Itu reference sama, tak tau budget. He said lowest as possible so...I gave him lowest as possible whistling.gif
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any shop selling bitfenix casing or only at GS?
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Just apps him. Haha. Thanks guy. As long 5k and below good ady. Will add anything useful later, or save. smile.gif
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 24 2014, 08:52 PM)
any shop selling bitfenix casing or only at GS?
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Idealtech, GBros, Lingloong a.k.a DotatechIT and APES.my, I think Hikari85 also sell Bitfenix Cases

QUOTE(killer zone II @ Mar 24 2014, 08:52 PM)
Just apps him. Haha. Thanks guy. As long 5k and below good ady. Will add anything useful later, or save. smile.gif
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Can any sifus check the pricing from viewnet and idealtech for the same parts, and whether there's anything off about this set:

Processor: i5-4440 rm599
PSU:C.master extreme 525w rm189
Mobo: Asrock b85m-hds rm239
HD: WD 1tb blue rm190
or 2tb rm275
GPU:
1. Giga Gtx650 oc 2gb rm485
2. Leadtek gtx650ti boost and oc 2gb rm559
3. Leadtek gtx 760 2gb rm799
4. Sapphire ati r9 270x oc 2gb rm730
RAM:
Kingston 4gb 1600mhz 4gb rm135 OR
8gb rm255
Casing: Avf hadeso 228 rm129

Other bits:
Keyboard: Logitech mk200 rm45
Monitor Anything rm280

Is there anything wrong with the mobo choice? I'm not entirely sure what that thing is. I just picked a random one whose name I knew. I think all the others at the local shop are Giga. The GPUs are variable depending on what the monitors (RM200~) and everything else costs. I'm looking to spend about RM2.5k max. I'm mostly looking to run some standard games like Europa Universalis IV, Starcraft II and Dota 2 with some Borderlands 2 as well. All of those parts I listed can be found at the local shop near my place. I don't really care about the casing tbh as long as it's cheap. I won't be showing it off.

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Can any sifus check the pricing from viewnet and idealtech for the same parts, and whether there's anything off about this set:

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Whoa that's long. So want all cheap and not into OC'ing right?

Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - Asrock B85M-HDS RM 239
GPU - Gainward GTX 660 GS Dual Fan RM 639
HDD - 1TB WD Blue RM 189
PSU - FSP Hexa 500watt RM 150
RAM - 8GB RAM 239
Casing - AVF Hadeso RM 129/CM K280 RM 129
Monitor - Cheap 20" AOC RM 280
Keyboard - RM 45

All for RM 2,489
All prices are from Viewnet except GPU from Idealtech.

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 09:24 PM)
Whoa that's long. So want all cheap and not into OC'ing right?

Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - Asrock B85M-HDS RM 239
GPU - Gainward GTX 660 GS Dual Fan RM 639
HDD - 1TB WD Blue RM 189
PSU - FSP Hexa 500watt RM 150
RAM - 8GB RAM 239
Casing - AVF Hadeso RM 129/CM K280 RM 129
Monitor - Cheap 20" AOC RM 280
Keyboard - RM 45

All for RM 2,489
All prices are from Viewnet except GPU from Idealtech.
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The parts that I listed are all compatible right? Is that GTX660 better than any of the 4 GPUs I listed? And is the GTX650Ti boost oc decent enough or would the GTX760 be a better choice? hmm.gif As for the monitor I think I saw a cheap 19" Samsung or whatever for under RM200. I'm actually looking for the best bang for the buck without having to travel to KL other than picking up a part or two or not at all if possible because I hate travelling laugh.gif
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QUOTE(red streak @ Mar 24 2014, 09:39 PM)
The parts that I listed are all compatible right? Is that GTX660 better than any of the 4 GPUs I listed? And is the GTX650Ti boost oc decent enough or would the GTX760 be a better choice?  hmm.gif As for the monitor I think I saw a cheap 19" Samsung or whatever for under RM200. I'm actually looking for the best bang for the buck without having to travel to KL other than picking up a part or two or not at all if possible because I hate travelling laugh.gif
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Hmm you found one under RM 200? Can invest more into gpu...so let's say the Monitor around RM 180 or so. Extra RM 111, hmm the R9 270X OC is RM 730. Welp it's on to you the GTX 660 is GS which I think that's the best "OC'ed" that gainward could offer. If can for out RM 69 more can get the Leadtek GTX 760 which is good enough brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(red streak @ Mar 24 2014, 09:39 PM)
The parts that I listed are all compatible right? Is that GTX660 better than any of the 4 GPUs I listed? And is the GTX650Ti boost oc decent enough or would the GTX760 be a better choice?  hmm.gif As for the monitor I think I saw a cheap 19" Samsung or whatever for under RM200. I'm actually looking for the best bang for the buck without having to travel to KL other than picking up a part or two or not at all if possible because I hate travelling laugh.gif
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Seems not right.20" monitor only?really?

Intel Core i3 4130 3.3GHz RM369
Asrock H81M-DGS mainboard RM179
Kingston KVR1600MHz 4GB RM129
Palit GTX750Ti StormX OC 2GB RM560
FSP Hexa 500W PSU RM149
Cooler Master N200 case RM129
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM189
Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Viewsonic VA2241WM monitor RM399

Total - RM2162.00

Optional :

- Intel Core i5 4440 RM579
- Gainward GTX660 GS 2GB RM639
- Plextor M5S 128GB SSD RM299
- CM Devastator Gaming combo RM149

You can choose to exchange/swap with any optional item.

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 08:50 PM)
Dude, he said that his friend already choosed the casing etc etc
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Sorry bro,tak perasan tadi.. doh.gif sweat.gif
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Guys, check with you all. Does FSP RAIDER 650W 80Plus Silver is a good PSU? These few days planning to build rig, now feel like to get GTX 770 Phantom pulak. doh.gif
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QUOTE(creative zn @ Mar 24 2014, 11:00 PM)
Guys, check with you all. Does FSP RAIDER 650W 80Plus Silver is a good PSU? These few days planning to build rig, now feel like to get GTX 770 Phantom pulak. doh.gif
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Yup,it can power up the GTX770 Phantom. nod.gif
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QUOTE(luqakim @ Mar 24 2014, 03:47 PM)
dlam rm5000
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RM5000?
i would suggest you to spend 2k for any laptop
and another 3k for custom rig.

so you got laptop to do all the work with mobile advantage and a custom pc rig for fun station and all.

QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 24 2014, 08:52 PM)
any shop selling bitfenix casing or only at GS?
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sorry, but what is GS?
garage sales?

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 24 2014, 11:00 PM)
Yup,it can power up the GTX770 Phantom. nod.gif
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Aaa.. Bro help. My budget now only allow me to get these 2 opt i can think off.

Opt 1

- Intel Core i5 4440 @ RM589
- Asrok H81M-HDS @ RM179
- Gainward GTX 760 Phantom @ RM849
- Plextor M5S 128GB @ RM299
- Silverstone PS08 @ RM125
Accs
- CM Devastator kb/mouse @ RM149
- Superlux Headset @ RM150

Total RM2339

Opt 2

- Intel Core i5 4440 @ RM589
- Asrok H81M-HDS @ RM179
- Gainward GTX 770 Phantom @ RM1199
- FSP Raider 650W @ RM255
- Silverstone PS08 @ RM125

Total RM2347


ps: price all from ideal tech
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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 24 2014, 10:08 PM)
Seems not right.20" monitor only?really?

Intel Core i3 4130 3.3GHz RM369
Asrock H81M-DGS mainboard RM179
Kingston KVR1600MHz 4GB RM129
Palit GTX750Ti StormX OC 2GB RM560
FSP Hexa 500W PSU RM149
Cooler Master N200 case RM129
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM189
Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Viewsonic VA2241WM monitor RM399

Total - RM2162.00

Optional :

- Intel Core i5 4440 RM579
- Gainward GTX660 GS 2GB RM639
- Plextor M5S 128GB SSD RM299
- CM Devastator Gaming combo RM149

You can choose to exchange/swap with any optional item.
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Wow that's very nice. drool.gif You're from Idealtech/Viewnet right bro?

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One thing I do not see being discussed is an automatic voltage regulator. I never used to consider it, until I started seeing a lot of rigs I built having power supply failure problems, irrespective of whether the power supply quality was good, or not.

I soon realized that just having a lightning surge suppressor was not sufficient to maintain the reliability of the rig, you also needed to have a automatic voltage regulator. In many parts of the Klang Valley at least, there is a bit of voltage fluctuation, and maybe this reduces the reliability of PSUs, especially if the voltage spikes.

AVRs are not very expensive, about RM80 for a 1000W model, which is more than enough to power almost any rig, and some peripherals as well, like the router, or printer, or NAS. Please consider this additional item in your budget if you are planning to build a rig. It will help prolong the life of your rig.
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QUOTE(creative zn @ Mar 24 2014, 11:12 PM)
Aaa.. Bro help. My budget now only allow me to get these 2 opt i can think off.

Opt 1

- Intel Core i5 4440 @ RM589
- Asrok H81M-HDS @ RM179
- Gainward GTX 760 Phantom @ RM849
- Plextor M5S 128GB @ RM299
- Silverstone PS08 @ RM125
Accs
- CM Devastator kb/mouse @ RM149
- Superlux Headset @ RM150

Total RM2339

Opt 2

- Intel Core i5 4440 @ RM589
- Asrok H81M-HDS @ RM179
- Gainward GTX 770 Phantom @ RM1199
- FSP Raider 650W @ RM255
- Silverstone PS08 @ RM125

Total RM2347
ps: price all from ideal tech
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The 1st option is better if you game at max 1920x1080, since the SSD will really help to speed things along when you are booting or just generally using the computer. If you game at higher than 1920x1080, then the GTX770 is a requirement.
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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:28 PM)
The 1st option is better if you game at max 1920x1080, since the SSD will really help to speed things along when you are booting or just generally using the computer.  If you game at higher than 1920x1080, then the GTX770 is a requirement.
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Is it? Im gaming at 1920x1080 only. Will never go beyond that. blush.gif

Im wondering, since GTX760 will mostly max out current games with above 30fps, do i feel any different if go with GTX770?
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QUOTE(red streak @ Mar 24 2014, 11:25 PM)
Wow that's very nice.  drool.gif You're from Idealtech/Viewnet right bro?
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Nope.. sweat.gif but the prices are.. biggrin.gif

Another suggestion :

Intel Core i3 4130 3.3GHz RM369
Asrock H81M-HDS mainboard RM239
Kingston KVR1600MHz 4GB RM129
Palit GTX750Ti StormX OC RM560
Antec Strictly VP-550 PSU RM199
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM189
Cooler Master N200 case RM129
Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Dell S2240L 21.5" Monitor RM489
CM Devastator Kb&Mouse RM149

Total - RM2519.00
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QUOTE(creative zn @ Mar 24 2014, 11:31 PM)
Is it? Im gaming at 1920x1080 only. Will never go beyond that.  blush.gif

Im wondering, since GTX760 will mostly max out current games with above 30fps, do i feel any different if go with GTX770?
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More fps though, but it's dependable on you. And also more durability? The 770 might handle 3-5 year of gaming before going outdated..just like the 4XX series. But hey there's still some 4XX that can still kick *ss biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(creative zn @ Mar 24 2014, 11:31 PM)
Is it? Im gaming at 1920x1080 only. Will never go beyond that.  blush.gif

Im wondering, since GTX760 will mostly max out current games with above 30fps, do i feel any different if go with GTX770?
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There might be some games, like Crysis 3, that might be able to show some difference between GTX760 and GTX770 if you game at 1920x1080, and if you use AA and ultra quality settings. However, most games will not see a difference between those 2 cards at 1920x1080, the GTX760 is a really powerful card, and is more than enough for most games at 1920x1080.
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:08 PM)
RM5000?
i would suggest you to spend 2k for any laptop
and another 3k for custom rig.

so you got laptop to do all the work with mobile advantage and a custom pc rig for fun station and all.
sorry, but what is GS?
garage sales?
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GarageSalesHehe. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:32 AM)
I think that is probably a design limitation on their part. Noticed that the clock speed isn't any faster than the regular DCUII 290X, but how come temperature increased by so much? Really mind boggling.

Overall, DCUII are among the better ones out there and I stand by this point, having run so many cards before, I really find them to be significantly superior when you compare them with those more economical solutions that I mentioned earlier. You try comparing DCUII with Dual-X and you will understand what I mean.

Edit: Just recalled something on top of my head. Problem with the latest gen DCUII cooler used on Hawaii cards is that it is actually a respin from existing DCUII used on bigger Kepler GK110 chips (e.g GTX 780 / Ti). So you will see that 2 of its 5 heatpipes doesn't contact fully with the slightly smaller die size of the Hawaii chip, so that is waste, really. But fully understandable on Asus' part, creating a new cooler purely just for Hawaii may create unnecessary excess inventory. That's why you see them do what they do.
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I do agree with you on the DCUII cooling solutions from Asus. Very quiet, very efficient in cooling, and very reliable. I have built 3 rigs with DCUII cooling, and the oldest one is about 4 years old now, and recently, when I checked on the rig, it was still running quiet with no issues, with no cleaning done whatsoever. Of course, I must also say I have built one rig with WindForce, and one rig with TwinFrozr, and they have had no issues as well. WindForce was not as quiet as DCUII, but TwinFrozr was about the same, based on my memory.
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 11:41 PM)
More fps though, but it's dependable on you. And also more durability? The 770 might handle 3-5 year of gaming before going outdated..just like the 4XX series. But hey there's still some 4XX that can still kick *ss biggrin.gif
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True. But within that time, i think i can upgrade to 9 series maybe. tongue.gif

QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:48 PM)
There might be some games, like Crysis 3, that might be able to show some difference between GTX760 and GTX770 if you game at 1920x1080, and if you use AA and ultra quality settings.  However, most games will not see a difference between those 2 cards at 1920x1080, the GTX760 is a really powerful card, and is more than enough for most games at 1920x1080.
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Sound convincing. Also when i search the review/benchmark it seem the margin about 20+ fps. I think i can live with just high/ultra tweaking setting.
Thanks mate. Will go with Opt 1 then. 1st timer to feel how SSD like. laugh.gif
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Thanks for the reply guys. I tought ASUS is a good brand and worth to buy.Tatz y picked ASUS MOBO n GPU
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Yes, Asus mobo is good, I have been specifying and using Asus for all my builds, never had any issues with any of the motherboards. However, if you do not mind using other brands, then Asrock is also OK, as well as MSI and Gigabyte. I would not buy any lower brands than those.
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True. But within that time, i think i can upgrade to 9 series maybe. tongue.gif
Sound convincing. Also when i search the review/benchmark it seem the margin about 20+ fps. I think i can live with just high/ultra tweaking setting.
Thanks mate. Will go with Opt 1 then. 1st timer to feel how SSD like.  laugh.gif
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No worries, mate. I tasted SSD about 3 years ago (first one was the Corsair SSD), and now I recommend SSD for all my builds, the difference in general usage speed of the PC is really significant - especially if you start-up and shut-down, and also when you load programs, or even when you load levels within games. The best option in my opinion is to buy a 120GB SSD, and a hard disk to store data.
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The setting for YCbCr444 is only for Nvidia only. If you are using Intel, I am not sure if there is a need to use the YCbCr color space. It is best to read the forums, and check if that is required, or not.
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QUOTE(creative zn @ Mar 24 2014, 11:00 PM)
Guys, check with you all. Does FSP RAIDER 650W 80Plus Silver is a good PSU? These few days planning to build rig, now feel like to get GTX 770 Phantom pulak. doh.gif
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Hardware Secrets has a good write up on the FSP Raider 650W. The circuit design is similar to the FSP Aurum, so it should be very good, and it uses high quality MOSFETs and Teapo capacitors. Maybe it is FSP's way to "downgrade" Aurum PSUs that fail to meet the 80Plus Gold criteria during final electrical test, and then sell those units as a FSP Raider 80Plus Silver.

In other words, the FSP Raider 650W is a good buy ... you should get about 90% of the Aurum PSU performance for 75% of the cost.
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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:25 PM)
One thing I do not see being discussed is an automatic voltage regulator.  I never used to consider it, until I started seeing a lot of rigs I built having power supply failure problems, irrespective of whether the power supply quality was good, or not.

I soon realized that just having a lightning surge suppressor was not sufficient to maintain the reliability of the rig, you also needed to have a automatic voltage regulator.  In many parts of the Klang Valley at least, there is a bit of voltage fluctuation, and maybe this reduces the reliability of PSUs, especially if the voltage spikes.

AVRs are not very expensive, about RM80 for a 1000W model, which is more than enough to power almost any rig, and some peripherals as well, like the router, or printer, or NAS.  Please consider this additional item in your budget if you are planning to build a rig.  It will help prolong the life of your rig.
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Thats what I thought too. But most of the brand name ones with backup batteries all cost in the region off RM500-1000 at least. Not even counting the RM1-4K ones. Looking for something that regulates voltages and can provide temporary backup power when the power goes down. Been selling PS Audio power plants to HiFi customers so i recognized the importance of a AVR/Circuit Breaker/Power Filter.

Where is this RM80 AVR? Would like it check it out.

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 25 2014, 12:39 AM)
Thats what I thought too. But most of the brand name ones with backup batteries all cost in the region off RM500-1000 at least. Not even counting the RM1-4K ones. Looking for something that regulates voltages and can provide temporary backup power when the power goes down. Been selling PS Audio power plants to HiFi customers so i recognized the importance of a AVR/Circuit Breaker/Power Filter.

Where is this RM80 AVR? Would like it check it out.
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Sentinel92, the RM80 AVR I mentioned does only simple voltage regulation and surge protection, it will not do any backup power. It is better than normal, and from my experience, I have zero failures on my builds using AVR and good power supplies.

You must be knowledgeable then in AVRs, if you are familiar with PS Audio Power Plants, that is some serious power conditioning hardware, and in Hi-Fi, you can actually hear a huge difference in the sound.

The RM80 AVR is made by Power Logic Koss, and here is the website:
http://www.kossups.com.my/activa.html
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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 25 2014, 12:56 AM)
Sentinel92, the RM80 AVR I mentioned does only simple voltage regulation and surge protection, it will not do any backup power.  It is better than normal, and from my experience, I have zero failures on my builds using AVR and good power supplies.

You must be knowledgeable then in AVRs, if you are familiar with PS Audio Power Plants, that is some serious power conditioning hardware, and in Hi-Fi, you can actually hear a huge difference in the sound.

The RM80 AVR is made by Power Logic Koss, and here is the website:
http://www.kossups.com.my/activa.html
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Yes i know. That's why I mentioned I'm looking for AVRs that also work as backup power sources. But the brands that do have backup batteries are so expensive. Sigh.

But yeah, I guess even without a backup battery an AVR is still a good place to start with to ensure my PC gets regulated current.

And yes, the PS Audio Power plants are insane pieces of equipment. With price tags which are nothing to sneeze at either. Best way to protect expensive Amps/DACs and transports.

Hmm, alright will take a look. Thanks for the link. Btw you mentioned you make builds. Which company do you work for?

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QUOTE(red streak @ Mar 24 2014, 09:39 PM)
The parts that I listed are all compatible right? Is that GTX660 better than any of the 4 GPUs I listed? And is the GTX650Ti boost oc decent enough or would the GTX760 be a better choice?  hmm.gif As for the monitor I think I saw a cheap 19" Samsung or whatever for under RM200. I'm actually looking for the best bang for the buck without having to travel to KL other than picking up a part or two or not at all if possible because I hate travelling laugh.gif
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red streak, please reconsider spending a bit more budget on your monitor. The monitor is the key interface between the PC and you and it will influence how you experience everything in your PC. It is the same principle with speakers/headphones, keyboard, and mouse. These are the hardware components that actually "connects" the PC virtual reality with you, so plan some budget and also choose these hardware components carefully.

Also, once you buy a good monitor, speaker/headphones, keyboard, and mouse, then you do not have to upgrade them again for a long time.

Also, a 19" or 20" monitor means 1366x768 resolution, or 1600x1200 resolution, so a GTX760 is overkill. Maybe a GTX750 or GTX750Ti is more than enough. GTX660 and GTX650Ti are old hardware, and the GTX750/GTX750Ti is better.

But please consider spending about RM500 to RM700 on a good 23" 1920x1080 monitor, most monitors using IPS panels are good.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 25 2014, 01:05 AM)
Yes i know. That's why I mentioned I'm looking for AVRs that also work as backup power sources. But the brands that do have backup batteries are so expensive. Sigh.

But yeah, I guess even without a backup battery an AVR is still a good place to start with to ensure my PC gets regulated current.

And yes, the PS Audio Power plants are insane pieces of equipment. With price tags which are nothing to sneeze at either. Best way to protect expensive Amps/DACs and transports.

Hmm, alright will take a look. Thanks for the link. Btw you mentioned you make builds. Which company do you work for?
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I do not work for any company Sentinel92, it is more of a hobby. Over the years, I have built up a reputation, and I make or recommend builds for friends, relatives, friends of friends, relatives of friends, etc.
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Hey guys, been stalking the threads and I must say you guys are doing an impressive job. Back to the issue at hand, I have been using my laptop for the past 3 years to play my games and I have been noticing the games now require more hardware specs so I think I will save up for a gaming rig soon so...here goes.

[Budget] - 3k

[Purpose] Gaming. Hardcore gaming.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None.

[Monitor resolution] the biggest there is?

[Games & softwares that use frequently] ummm....directx11? I dont know this question? Crysis? AC4?

[Personal preferences] I dont mind splurging to 4k if it looks good

[Location] Only problem is that I am in kuching so maybe I am thinking I go over to KL for a day or two, pay for the rig in advance then carry the PC only to kuching in my arms. The monitor would have to be bought in kuching. suggestions on this problem?
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CPU: Intel Core i5 4440 RM589
Mobo: ASUS H87 PLUS RM375 Asrock H87 Performance RM399
RAM: GSkill AEGIS 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz RM139x2units Corsair Vengance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R DDR3 1600MHz 4GB x2unit RM339
GPU: Gainward GTX 760 2GB DDR5 Phantom RM880
PSU: FSP Raider 550W PSU RM239
SSD: Plextor M5S 128GB SSD RM289
HDD: WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM195
Chasis: NZXT H440 Black Red RM399
ODD: Lite-On 24x DVDRW RM60 (don't need these item as my case don't hv optical bay)
Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight RM129 Thermaltake NiC C5 Untouchable RM219

Between idealtech say it did not recommend me to take Asrock H87 Performance but instead prefer to take ASUS H87 Plus. Both I see from specs are similar. I take Asrock H87 Performance because the mother board Red colour scheme match with my NZXT H440 black/red theme.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 25 2014, 10:33 AM)
Hey guys, been stalking the threads and I must say you guys are doing an impressive job. Back to the issue at hand, I have been using my laptop for the past 3 years to play my games and I have been noticing the games now require more hardware specs so I think I will save up for a gaming rig soon so...here goes.

[Budget] - 3k

[Purpose] Gaming. Hardcore gaming.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None.

[Monitor resolution] the biggest there is?

[Games & softwares that use frequently] ummm....directx11? I dont know this question? Crysis? AC4?

[Personal preferences] I dont mind splurging to 4k if it looks good

[Location] Only problem is that I am in kuching so maybe I am thinking I go over to KL for a day or two, pay for the rig in advance then carry the PC only to kuching in my arms. The monitor would have to be bought in kuching. suggestions on this problem?
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Alright, here is what I can optimize for you. Basically, close to a RM3.8k budget will get you a nice GTX 770 paired with a superb 23" IPS monitor. Best of all, it even includes a 128GB SSD. Well, speed is a luxury they say, so if you are tight on your budget, you can just omit the SSD for some precious bucks. biggrin.gif

Intel Core i5 4440 - RM579
Asrock B85M Pro4 – RM279
Corsair Value Ram 8GB DDR3 1600MHz - RM239
Gainward GTX 770 Phantom 2GB – RM1199 (lingloong / IdealTech)
Seasonic S12 II 620W PSU - RM299
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD - RM189
Plextor M5S 128GB SSD - RM289
Cooler Master K380 Casing - RM149
LG 23EA53V 23" IPS LED - RM519
Lite-On 24x DVDRW – RM59

Total - RM3800 (prices are from Viewnet)
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 25 2014, 10:40 AM)
Over the week of checking and asking around, these will be my final build. To all Stfu any commend  brows.gif  ?

CPU: Intel Core i5 4440 RM589
Mobo: ASUS H87 PLUS RM375 Asrock H87 Performance RM399
RAM: GSkill AEGIS 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz RM139x2units Corsair Vengance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R DDR3 1600MHz 4GB x2unit RM339
GPU: Gainward GTX 760 2GB DDR5 Phantom RM880
PSU: FSP Raider 550W PSU RM239
SSD: Plextor M5S 128GB SSD RM289
HDD: WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM195
Chasis: NZXT H440 Black Red RM399
ODD: Lite-On 24x DVDRW RM60 (don't need these item as my case don't hv optical bay)
Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight RM129 Thermaltake NiC C5 Untouchable RM219

Between idealtech say it did not recommend me to take Asrock H87 Performance but instead prefer to take ASUS H87 Plus. Both I see from specs are similar. I take Asrock H87 Performance because the mother board Red colour scheme match with my NZXT H440 black/red theme.
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From what I see, those Vengeance RAMs are purely optional since they will not affect you much, in terms of gaming performance per se. But if you're looking to match to a certain theme in your rig build, then no harm going for them. They are a tad pricy, just for you to know. tongue.gif

The Thermaltake cooler looks awesome, so it's entirely up to you. For the record, you don't really need a 3rd party cooler considering that your CPU is locked and has little to no overclocking capabilities. If you would want it just for the sake of quietness and lower temps, then going for cheaper solutions e.g Hyper 212X or Dark Knight would probably make more sense. But all in all, it's all really up to you. wink.gif
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 25 2014, 10:52 AM)
From what I see, those Vengeance RAMs are purely optional since they will not affect you much, in terms of gaming performance per se. But if you're looking to match to a certain theme in your rig build, then no harm going for them. They are a tad pricy, just for you to know. tongue.gif

The Thermaltake cooler looks awesome, so it's entirely up to you. For the record, you don't really need a 3rd party cooler considering that your CPU is locked and has little to no overclocking capabilities. If you would want it just for the sake of quietness and lower temps, then going for cheaper solutions e.g Hyper 212X or Dark Knight would probably make more sense. But all in all, it's all really up to you. wink.gif
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Fully agree with rav3n82 ... unless you plan to show off your rig, then the Vengeance RAMs, and Thermaltake cooler is not really necessary from a performance standpoint.

Of course, if you are someone who does care about the color of your mobo to coordinate with your NZXT, then by all means, do consider completing the whole rig with Vengeance and Thermaltake, it does make the rig look a lot better. The NZXT has a window to see your cool components!

Please also consider to install a white LED light inside the case, it does make the whole thing look much nicer if you have light to see inside at all the nice components. Also, since you are going to see inside, dust will be your No.1 enemy. To counter this, try to get proper dust filters as well for the three front intake fans and single rear fan, and please also consider to turn the rear fan inside out. Positive air pressure with filters for all the fans, will reduce the dust build up inside your case by a significant amount, and keep your rig looking pretty for a much longer time.
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 25 2014, 10:47 AM)
Alright, here is what I can optimize for you. Basically, close to a RM3.8k budget will get you a nice GTX 770 paired with a superb 23" IPS monitor. Best of all, it even includes a 128GB SSD. Well, speed is a luxury they say, so if you are tight on your budget, you can just omit the SSD for some precious bucks. biggrin.gif

Intel Core i5 4440 - RM579
Asrock B85M Pro4 – RM279
Corsair Value Ram 8GB DDR3 1600MHz - RM239
Gainward GTX 770 Phantom 2GB – RM1199 (lingloong / IdealTech)
Seasonic S12 II 620W PSU - RM299
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD - RM189
Plextor M5S 128GB SSD - RM289
Cooler Master K380 Casing - RM149
LG 23EA53V 23" IPS LED - RM519
Lite-On 24x DVDRW – RM59

Total - RM3800 (prices are from Viewnet)
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 25 2014, 10:33 AM)
Hey guys, been stalking the threads and I must say you guys are doing an impressive job. Back to the issue at hand, I have been using my laptop for the past 3 years to play my games and I have been noticing the games now require more hardware specs so I think I will save up for a gaming rig soon so...here goes.

[Budget] - 3k

[Purpose] Gaming. Hardcore gaming.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None.

[Monitor resolution] the biggest there is?

[Games & softwares that use frequently] ummm....directx11? I dont know this question? Crysis? AC4?

[Personal preferences] I dont mind splurging to 4k if it looks good

[Location] Only problem is that I am in kuching so maybe I am thinking I go over to KL for a day or two, pay for the rig in advance then carry the PC only to kuching in my arms. The monitor would have to be bought in kuching. suggestions on this problem?
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Avangelice, you should consider coming to KL, the price difference between Low Yat plaza, and Kuching, along with the wider selection of components, might just be worth the trip. If you are planning to ship the thing back to Kuching, or carry it, then you will need to make sure the weight and size is considered as well. The prices can be higher by up to 30% in Kuching.

One way to get a good monitor at a good price is to buy a Dell IPS monitor, they will ship it to Kuching with no cost, I think. The other thing that needs consideration is the casing, maybe spend a bit more to set up an iTX rig, the weight is lighter, and size is smaller, but cost will be more.
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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 25 2014, 11:16 AM)
Avangelice, you should consider coming to KL, the price difference between Low Yat plaza, and Kuching, along with the wider selection of components, might just be worth the trip.  If you are planning to ship the thing back to Kuching, or carry it, then you will need to make sure the weight and size is considered as well.  The prices can be higher by up to 30% in Kuching. 

One way to get a good monitor at a good price is to buy a Dell IPS monitor, they will ship it to Kuching with no cost, I think.  The other thing that needs consideration is the casing, maybe spend a bit more to set up an iTX rig, the weight is lighter, and size is smaller, but cost will be more.
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I think Ill just have to hand carry it. yes I checked through the so called mini "lowyat" in kuching. Everything has a 10-20% increase in price. Sakit hati I moved back to my home town.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 25 2014, 11:20 AM)
I think Ill just have to hand carry it. yes I checked through the so called mini "lowyat" in kuching. Everything has a 10-20% increase in price. Sakit hati I moved back to my home town.
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Actually, you could have the rig built here in West Malaysia and then have it shipped back to you, with some charges of course. Companies like Ideal Tech (zhen^wei) do shipments to whole of Malaysia, you can check them out in Garage Sales. Or they may have already caught you on their radar and will approach you shortly. brows.gif
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 25 2014, 11:25 AM)
Actually, you could have the rig built here in West Malaysia and then have it shipped back to you, with some charges of course. Companies like Ideal Tech (zhen^wei) do shipments to whole of Malaysia, you can check them out in Garage Sales. Or they may have already caught you on their radar and will approach you shortly. brows.gif
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+1, Apes.my, Hikari85 and a few others also offer the same kinda service, you could pm them all for a quote and select one that best fits your criteria and budget wink.gif
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 25 2014, 10:52 AM)
From what I see, those Vengeance RAMs are purely optional since they will not affect you much, in terms of gaming performance per se. But if you're looking to match to a certain theme in your rig build, then no harm going for them. They are a tad pricy, just for you to know. tongue.gif

The Thermaltake cooler looks awesome, so it's entirely up to you. For the record, you don't really need a 3rd party cooler considering that your CPU is locked and has little to no overclocking capabilities. If you would want it just for the sake of quietness and lower temps, then going for cheaper solutions e.g Hyper 212X or Dark Knight would probably make more sense. But all in all, it's all really up to you. wink.gif
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If I option for the i5 4670 which is nee to top up extra RM180, would the Motherboard ASUS H87 Plus / Asrock H87 Performance still suitable ?
Another thing is the usually put e.g Corsair Vengance DDR3 1600MHz 4GBx2 - RM339 (mean 2 RAM for RM339 or 1 unit RM339)?
Haiz the idealtech reply me they not encourage to sell corsair ram because of poor RMA and price is damn high now ... the RM339 is last year.
Any nice RAM that is Red in colour that can recommend me?

How about the ASUS H87 Plus Vs Asrock H87 Performance ???

By the way the CPU cooler is it hard to install ? Idealtech don't sell Thermaltake NIC C5 untouchable, and they don't help me install the rig unless it is from them. will it hard to install if I install it last ?

QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 25 2014, 11:07 AM)
Fully agree with rav3n82 ... unless you plan to show off your rig, then the Vengeance RAMs, and Thermaltake cooler is not really necessary from a performance standpoint. 

Of course, if you are someone who does care about the color of your mobo to coordinate with your NZXT, then by all means, do consider completing the whole rig with Vengeance and Thermaltake, it does make the rig look a lot better.  The NZXT has a window to see your cool components! 

Please also consider to install a white LED light inside the case, it does make the whole thing look much nicer if you have light to see inside at all the nice components.  Also, since you are going to see inside, dust will be your No.1 enemy.  To counter this, try to get proper dust filters as well for the three front intake fans and single rear fan, and please also consider to turn the rear fan inside out.  Positive air pressure with filters for all the fans, will reduce the dust build up inside your case by a significant amount, and keep your rig looking pretty for a much longer time.
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Yes I am trying to coordinate all the colour scheme to match the casing. Now learn how to add more LEDs interior casing design. It is all about Budget build Average performance with Nice interior looking.

This post has been edited by kelv1983: Mar 25 2014, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 25 2014, 11:37 AM)
If I option for the i5 4670 which is nee to top up extra RM180, would the Motherboard ASUS H87 Plus / Asrock H87 Performance still suitable ?
Another thing is the usually put e.g Corsair Vengance DDR3 1600MHz 4GBx2 - RM339 (mean 2 RAM for RM339 or 1 unit RM339)?
Haiz the idealtech reply me they not encourage to sell corsair ram because of poor RMA and price is damn high now ... the RM339 is last year.
Any nice RAM that is Red in colour that can recommend me?

How about the ASUS H87 Plus Vs Asrock H87 Performance ???
Yes I am trying to coordinate all the colour scheme to match the casing. Now learn how to add more LEDs interior casing design. It is all about Budget build Average performance with Nice interior looking.
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Adding LEDs is easy depending on the solutions you're looking at.. I suggest getting the LED strips that connects directly to a molex for hassle-free lighting.. NZXT should have some sleeved solutions, Other brands like Xigmatek , BitFenix and even Akasa and icute have them as well wink.gif

some samples for you to see

NZXT user posted image
BitFenix user posted image
Xigmatek user posted image

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 25 2014, 11:37 AM)
If I option for the i5 4670 which is nee to top up extra RM180, would the Motherboard ASUS H87 Plus / Asrock H87 Performance still suitable ?
Another thing is the usually put e.g Corsair Vengance DDR3 1600MHz 4GBx2 - RM339 (mean 2 RAM for RM339 or 1 unit RM339)?
Haiz the idealtech reply me they not encourage to sell corsair ram because of poor RMA and price is damn high now ... the RM339 is last year.
Any nice RAM that is Red in colour that can recommend me?

How about the ASUS H87 Plus Vs Asrock H87 Performance ???
Yes I am trying to coordinate all the colour scheme to match the casing. Now learn how to add more LEDs interior casing design. It is all about Budget build Average performance with Nice interior looking.
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i5 4670 is a LGA1150 socket CPU.H81/B85/H87/Z87 are LGA1150.The Mobos with those names are compatible with all Haswell CPUs.
That means it comes with 2 sticks of 4GB,not 1 stick of 8GB.

Why do you need Performance RAM?It's a waste IMO,unless u're a benchmarker or a enthusiast.. wink.gif
RAM Red in colour eh?Showing off? brows.gif tongue.gif
I think it's the GSkill RipjawsX series iinm.

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 25 2014, 11:25 AM)
Actually, you could have the rig built here in West Malaysia and then have it shipped back to you, with some charges of course. Companies like Ideal Tech (zhen^wei) do shipments to whole of Malaysia, you can check them out in Garage Sales. Or they may have already caught you on their radar and will approach you shortly. brows.gif
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that good service huh? I feel so.........vulnerable. knowing someone is reading this conversation...hahahah..
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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Mar 25 2014, 11:44 AM)
Adding LEDs is easy depending on the solutions you're looking at.. I suggest getting the LED strips that connects directly to a molex for hassle-free lighting.. NZXT should have some sleeved solutions, Other brands like Xigmatek , BitFenix and even Akasa and icute have them as well wink.gif

some samples for you to see

NZXT user posted image
BitFenix user posted image
Xigmatek user posted image
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Thanks ...nice

QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 25 2014, 11:45 AM)
i5 4670 is a LGA1150 socket CPU.H81/B85/H87/Z87 are LGA1150.The Mobos with those names are compatible with all Haswell CPUs.
That means it comes with 2 4GBs.Not 8x1GB.

Why do you need Performance RAM?It's a waste IMO,unless u're a benchmarker or a enthusiast.. wink.gif
RAM Red in colour eh?Showing off? brows.gif  tongue.gif
I think it'll be GSkill RipjawsX Red iinm.
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Not showing off but makes my interior looks cool if not I will not but a quite expensive casing like NZXT H440 icon_rolleyes.gif
Build something like in the video below:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcSmviYvm2s
I am copying the design but with cheaper option biggrin.gif

Btw is the CPU cooler hard to installed ? will it be difficult to install CPU cooler if It is install last ??
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 25 2014, 11:52 AM)
that good service huh? I feel so.........vulnerable. knowing someone is reading this conversation...hahahah..
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IdealTech have good service.. brows.gif icon_idea.gif They even do better cable management than the shops in LYP.. icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 25 2014, 11:53 AM)
Thanks ...nice
Not showing off but makes my interior looks cool if not I will not but a quite expensive casing like NZXT H440  icon_rolleyes.gif
Build something like in the video below:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcSmviYvm2s
I am copying the design but with cheaper option  biggrin.gif 

Btw is the CPU cooler hard to installed ? will it be difficult to install CPU cooler if It is install last ??
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Im not sure if it's hard or not...i haven't touched any computer components before,other than CPU,HDD,RAM and Mobo..from a laptop.Well,this video shows you how! wink.gif


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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 25 2014, 11:57 AM)
Im not sure if it's hard or not.Well,this video shows you how! wink.gif

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 25 2014, 11:58 AM)
Fixed wink.gif
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LOL!I fixed it a few seconds before u! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 25 2014, 11:53 AM)
Btw is the CPU cooler hard to installed ? will it be difficult to install CPU cooler if It is install last ??
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Not really, thanks to the huge CPU cooler cutout at the mobo tray, you could mount a 3rd party HSF without having to remove the motherboard
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 25 2014, 11:59 AM)
LOL!I fixed it a few seconds before u! rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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You so fast dem =w=
Did somebody said LED Light for bling bling in casing drool.gif drool.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 25 2014, 12:01 PM)
You so fast dem =w=
Did somebody said LED Light for bling bling in casing drool.gif drool.gif biggrin.gif
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Of course im fast..on Lappy and not tablet.. tongue.gif
Ayee m8,you didn't know that you can put LED light in a casing? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 25 2014, 11:57 AM)
Im not sure if it's hard or not...i haven't touched any computer components before,other than CPU,HDD,RAM and Mobo..from a laptop.Well,this video shows you how! wink.gif

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Looks easy to install but my clumsy hand will destroyed it soon enough cry.gif ....Haiz try to pursuit idealtech help me install CPU cooler I buy and courier to them with the rest I purchase from them together.

if everything fails need to seek local expert to help sad.gif ..(never installed before scare fail then damage the Processor or Mobo)
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 25 2014, 12:15 PM)
Looks easy to install but my clumsy hand will destroyed it soon enough  cry.gif ....Haiz try to pursuit idealtech help me install CPU cooler I buy and courier to them with the rest I purchase from them together.

if everything fails need to seek local expert to help sad.gif ..(never installed before scare fail then damage the Processor or Mobo)
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IdealTech can install all the components for you.. wink.gif
Well if you're afraid,then let the shop install the components. nod.gif nod.gif
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 25 2014, 10:40 AM)
Over the week of checking and asking around, these will be my final build. To all Stfu any commend  brows.gif  ?

CPU: Intel Core i5 4440 RM589
Mobo: ASUS H87 PLUS RM375 Asrock H87 Performance RM399
RAM: GSkill AEGIS 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz RM139x2units Corsair Vengance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R DDR3 1600MHz 4GB x2unit RM339
GPU: Gainward GTX 760 2GB DDR5 Phantom RM880
PSU: FSP Raider 550W PSU RM239
SSD: Plextor M5S 128GB SSD RM289
HDD: WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM195
Chasis: NZXT H440 Black Red RM399
ODD: Lite-On 24x DVDRW RM60 (don't need these item as my case don't hv optical bay)
Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight RM129 Thermaltake NiC C5 Untouchable RM219

Between idealtech say it did not recommend me to take Asrock H87 Performance but instead prefer to take ASUS H87 Plus. Both I see from specs are similar. I take Asrock H87 Performance because the mother board Red colour scheme match with my NZXT H440 black/red theme.
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nzxt H440 case already arrive here? drool.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 25 2014, 12:02 PM)
Of course im fast..on Lappy and not tablet.. tongue.gif
Ayee m8,you didn't know that you can put LED light in a casing? tongue.gif
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I already knew about this stuff lad. I don't know whether NZXT or Bitfenix. Both look good, does these 2 companies has green LED? Would be awesome if they have one whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 25 2014, 12:19 PM)
IdealTech can install all the components for you.. wink.gif
Well if you're afraid,then let the shop install the components. nod.gif  nod.gif
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QUOTE(reply from Zhen^Wei:-)
we dotn sell it. u can install ur self.

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QUOTE(SourPower @ Mar 25 2014, 12:30 PM)
nzxt H440 case already arrive here?  drool.gif
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IdealTech say next month I already ask them reserve
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 25 2014, 12:30 PM)
QUOTE(reply from Zhen^Wei:-)
we dotn sell it. u can install ur self.

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What did you ask actually? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 25 2014, 12:30 PM)
QUOTE(reply from Zhen^Wei:-)
we dotn sell it. u can install ur self.

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Where's your location?JB? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 25 2014, 12:15 PM)
Looks easy to install but my clumsy hand will destroyed it soon enough  cry.gif ....Haiz try to pursuit idealtech help me install CPU cooler I buy and courier to them with the rest I purchase from them together.

if everything fails need to seek local expert to help sad.gif ..(never installed before scare fail then damage the Processor or Mobo)
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I believe they would only install for you if you buy everything from them. tongue.gif Either way, hate to break your bubble, but mounting a CPU cooler is not.....easy, at least for the first time. tongue.gif Read the manual properly and try it slowly. It shouldn't be that difficult after a try or two.

The video posted above is on a CM Hyper 212 Evo, if not mistaken. And I personally find this cooler to be one of the easier ones to install. I would suggest that you actually first mount the heatsink to your processor first (outside the chassis), then screw the entire motherboard to your chassis. Only after that, you can fix in the fan mountings.
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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 24 2014, 10:08 PM)
Seems not right.20" monitor only?really?

Intel Core i3 4130 3.3GHz RM369
Asrock H81M-DGS mainboard RM179
Kingston KVR1600MHz 4GB RM129
Palit GTX750Ti StormX OC 2GB RM560
FSP Hexa 500W PSU RM149
Cooler Master N200 case RM129
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM189
Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Viewsonic VA2241WM monitor RM399

Total - RM2162.00

Optional :

- Intel Core i5 4440 RM579
- Gainward GTX660 GS 2GB RM639
- Plextor M5S 128GB SSD RM299
- CM Devastator Gaming combo RM149

You can choose to exchange/swap with any optional item.
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That i3 is good for gaming ah? Some sellers told me not recommended lah. They suggest i5-4440 hmm.gif If it's good enough for most games then I'll probably consider downgrading to save budget because money is a little tight but I need to replace my dead laptop a.s.a.p.. Though to be honest right now that build you posted is a lot cheaper than what I've got here:

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PC Specs
1. Processor:  Intel i5-4440    RM599
2. GPU:  Leadtek GTX650Ti 2GB Boost & OC RM559
3. PSU:  Coolermaster Extreme 525W  RM189
4. RAM:  Kingston 1600mhz 4GB  RM135
5. Motherboard: Asrock b85m-hds  RM239
6. HDD:  WD Blue 1TB    RM190
7. Casing:  AVF Hadeso 228  RM129
8. Monitor: Viewsonic VA2241WM    RM399
Total      RM2439

Prices and parts are all from NavoTech Melaka with the exception of the monitor.
Mine lari budget ody cuz I still need to get a wireless usb thingy, dvd-reader thingy, and keyboard (already got mouse) rclxub.gif

QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 25 2014, 01:10 AM)
red streak, please reconsider spending a bit more budget on your monitor.  The monitor is the key interface between the PC and you and it will influence how you experience everything in your PC.  It is the same principle with speakers/headphones, keyboard, and mouse.  These are the hardware components that actually "connects" the PC virtual reality with you, so plan some budget and also choose these hardware components carefully.

Also, once you buy a good monitor, speaker/headphones, keyboard, and mouse, then you do not have to upgrade them again for a long time. 

Also, a 19" or 20" monitor means 1366x768 resolution, or 1600x1200 resolution, so a GTX760 is overkill.  Maybe a GTX750 or GTX750Ti is more than enough.  GTX660 and GTX650Ti are old hardware, and the GTX750/GTX750Ti is better.

But please consider spending about RM500 to RM700 on a good 23" 1920x1080 monitor, most monitors using IPS panels are good.
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I'm not really looking for anything fancy tbh. 1366x768 reso is fine with me. I just want to be able to run Excel and some games. I'll probably get the monitor Cable707 suggested though since it looks good smile.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 23 2014, 10:35 PM)
CPU:Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3 3.3GHz RM799
Mobo:Asrock H87 Pro4 RM319
GPU:Gainward GTX770 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 RM1199
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RM239
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM189
PSU:Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
Wifi Card:TP Link WN881ND RM49
Casing:CM K380 RM149
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Total:RM3590
GPU is from Lingloong @GS,the rest are from Viewnet.
If you want it to be cheaper,get Gainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 RM849 from Lingloong. wink.gif
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Thanks! Does anyone know if anyone sells the Gainward GTX770 Phantom at LYPlaza itself? A search showed that IPmart sells it for RM1152 with 1 year warranty, but I plan to go to LYP and get it all sorted out in one place/one shot, so any help in this regards would be appreciated.

Also, how big a monitor should I get, with the GTX770? I was thinking of getting a 21.5" screen...
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QUOTE(red streak @ Mar 25 2014, 02:37 PM)
That i3 is good for gaming ah? Some sellers told me not recommended lah. They suggest i5-4440 hmm.gif If it's good enough for most games then I'll probably consider downgrading to save budget because money is a little tight but I need to replace my dead laptop a.s.a.p.. Though to be honest right now that build you posted is a lot cheaper than what I've got here:
Mine lari budget ody cuz I still need to get a wireless usb thingy, dvd-reader thingy, and keyboard (already got mouse)  rclxub.gif
I'm not really looking for anything fancy tbh. 1366x768 reso is fine with me. I just want to be able to run Excel and some games. I'll probably get the monitor Cable707 suggested though since it looks good smile.gif
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Never underestimate the power of 4130.It should be enough for ur purpose unless you're going for heavy multitasking/editing which demands an additional cores
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QUOTE(captainfate @ Mar 25 2014, 03:27 PM)
Thanks! Does anyone know if anyone sells the Gainward GTX770 Phantom at LYPlaza itself? A search showed that IPmart sells it for RM1152 with 1 year warranty, but I plan to go to LYP and get it all sorted out in one place/one shot, so any help in this regards would be appreciated.

Also, how big a monitor should I get, with the GTX770? I was thinking of getting a 21.5" screen...
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GTX770 is capable to play highest setting at 1080p, even 1440p.

lingloong selling Gainward
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/802109
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 25 2014, 12:32 PM)

Umm..okay?They don't sell the cooler that you want? hmm.gif
Where's your location?JB? hmm.gif
Yes, I am in JB .... they don't sell CPU cooler Thermaltake NIC 5 untouchable... any source getting that one ??


QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 25 2014, 01:27 PM)
I believe they would only install for you if you buy everything from them. tongue.gif Either way, hate to break your bubble, but mounting a CPU cooler is not.....easy, at least for the first time. tongue.gif Read the manual properly and try it slowly. It shouldn't be that difficult after a try or two.

The video posted above is on a CM Hyper 212 Evo, if not mistaken. And I personally find this cooler to be one of the easier ones to install. I would suggest that you actually first mount the heatsink to your processor first (outside the chassis), then screw the entire motherboard to your chassis. Only after that, you can fix in the fan mountings.
QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 25 2014, 12:32 PM)


What did you ask actually? whistling.gif
After I check with Idealtek again (I think they misunderstand that I only buy 1 item then ask them install).. I think they agreed to help me ... need to further confirmation again

This post has been edited by kelv1983: Mar 25 2014, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 25 2014, 12:30 PM)
I already knew about this stuff lad. I don't know whether NZXT or Bitfenix. Both look good, does these 2 companies has green LED? Would be awesome if they have one whistling.gif
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Not sure abt NZXT but for BitFenix yes we have green LED strips wink.gif

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 25 2014, 03:32 PM)
Yes, I am in JB .... they don't sell CPU cooler Thermaltake NIC 5 untouchable... any source getting that one ??
After I check with Idealtek again (I think they misunderstand that I only buy 1 item then ask them install).. I think they agreed to help me ... need to further confirmation again
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I'd go for CoolerMaster Hyper 212X.Price should be around RM140. nod.gif
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QUOTE(red streak @ Mar 25 2014, 02:37 PM)
That i3 is good for gaming ah? Some sellers told me not recommended lah. They suggest i5-4440 hmm.gif If it's good enough for most games then I'll probably consider downgrading to save budget because money is a little tight but I need to replace my dead laptop a.s.a.p.. Though to be honest right now that build you posted is a lot cheaper than what I've got here:
Mine lari budget ody cuz I still need to get a wireless usb thingy, dvd-reader thingy, and keyboard (already got mouse)  rclxub.gif
I'm not really looking for anything fancy tbh. 1366x768 reso is fine with me. I just want to be able to run Excel and some games. I'll probably get the monitor Cable707 suggested though since it looks good smile.gif
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a core i3 cpu would do you just fine, just spend the extra money on getting a beefier gpu.
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Clem1982's poison on bitfenix is getting on me tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 25 2014, 03:51 PM)
I'd go for CoolerMaster Hyper 212X.Price should be around RM140. nod.gif
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I would if my casing is white colour ..... but my casing is black/red. If the CoolerMaster Hyper 212X have red colour led light or fan then I would certainly consider.
Btw Thermaltake NIC 5 Untouchable not good ?


If I ever take a I5 4670K processor for OCing can the Asrock H87 Performance adequate for OCing?

Might take your advice to take Gskill Ripjawsx (XL-Red) PC3-17000/DDR3 2133Mhz - RM 369

Just few more item to finalize ... feeling great rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 25 2014, 05:15 PM)
I would if my casing is white colour ..... but my casing is black/red. If the CoolerMaster Hyper 212X have red colour led light or fan then I would certainly consider.
Btw Thermaltake NIC 5 Untouchable not good ?
If I ever take a I5 4670K processor for OCing can the Asrock H87 Performance adequate for OCing?

Might take your advice to take Gskill Ripjawsx (XL-Red) PC3-17000/DDR3 2133Mhz - RM 369

Just few more item to finalize ... feeling great  rclxms.gif
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fans on the Hyper 212 is swappable so no big issues there

tanother RAM you should take a look at are teh Avexir Core LED series wink.gif 4Gb x2 for RM319 from APES.MY
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 25 2014, 04:37 PM)
Clem1982's poison on bitfenix is getting on me tongue.gif
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Same here whistling.gif tongue.gif
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Purpose: Mostly web browsing and watching movies with minimal gaming
Hardwares that will be re-use: WD 1TB
Monitor resolution: 1920x1080
Budget: ~RM 2,500 excluding peripherals

The following are restrictions for certain components of the rig:

CPU: Intel Core i5 4440
RAM: 2x 4GB RAM
HDD: Re-using old 1TB HDD
SSD: 120GB SSD
GPU: Balance budget to be put in here I suppose
PSU: Anything that is enough to power the rig
Chasis: Anything within the size of 55cm (H) x 45cm (L) as I have limited spacing
MOBO: Anything that can fit within the size of the casing?
ODD: Basic DVD-ROM


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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 25 2014, 06:19 PM)
Same here whistling.gif tongue.gif
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u already have bitfenix shadow okla..i have none...lol
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 25 2014, 06:38 PM)
u already have bitfenix shadow okla..i have none...lol
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Dude that is "Planned" build. Didn't buy anything yet cry.gif
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QUOTE(jimhorn @ Mar 25 2014, 06:31 PM)
Purpose: Mostly web browsing and watching movies with minimal gaming
Hardwares that will be re-use: WD 1TB
Monitor resolution: 1920x1080
Budget: ~RM 2,500 excluding peripherals

The following are restrictions for certain components of the rig:

CPU: Intel Core i5 4440
RAM: 2x 4GB RAM
HDD: Re-using old 1TB HDD
SSD: 120GB SSD
GPU: Balance budget to be put in here I suppose
PSU: Anything that is enough to power the rig
Chasis: Anything within the size of 55cm (H) x 45cm (L) as I have limited spacing
MOBO: Anything that can fit within the size of the casing?
ODD: Basic DVD-ROM
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So itx build?

Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - Asrock B85M-ITX RM 289
GPU - Palit GTX 750 Ti StormX Dual OC RM 560
RAM - 8 GB Value RAM 1600 RM 239
SSD - Intel 530 RM 349
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w RM 150
Casing - Bitfenix Prodigy M RM 270/ Bitfenix Phenom RM 290/Fractal Design Node 304 RM 350 [ This one no place to put ODD also the Phenom ]
ODD - Any DVD-RW RM 59

All for RM 2495. With Bitfenix Phenom RM 2445. All prices are from Viewnet, except GPU and Casing from GBros biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by Zgames: Mar 25 2014, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 25 2014, 05:15 PM)
I would if my casing is white colour ..... but my casing is black/red. If the CoolerMaster Hyper 212X have red colour led light or fan then I would certainly consider.
Btw Thermaltake NIC 5 Untouchable not good ?
If I ever take a I5 4670K processor for OCing can the Asrock H87 Performance adequate for OCing?

Might take your advice to take Gskill Ripjawsx (XL-Red) PC3-17000/DDR3 2133Mhz - RM 369

Just few more item to finalize ... feeling great  rclxms.gif
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No,you can only overclock Intel CPUs that has the "K" at the back with Z87 Mobo.. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 25 2014, 06:47 PM)
So itx build?

Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - Asrock B85M-ITX RM 289
GPU - Palit GTX 750 Ti StormX Dual OC RM 560
RAM - 8 GB Value RAM 1600 RM 239
SSD - Intel 530 RM 349
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w RM 150
Casing - Bitfenix Prodigy M RM 319/ Bitfenix Phenom RM 279 [ This one no place to put ODD ]
ODD - Any DVD-RW RM 59

All for RM 2544. With Bitfenix Phenom RM 2445. All prices are from Viewnet, except GPU and Casing from GBros biggrin.gif
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Can also consider Fractal Design Node 304.. smile.gif

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