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Zgames
post Mar 19 2014, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 09:02 PM)
Gainward GTX750Ti Phantom.. brows.gif  icon_idea.gif Doubt that will happen though. hmm.gif
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Got 750 TI GS. http://www.gainward.com/main/vgapro.php?id=925&lang=en
Bet it'll either be RM 690-ish icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif But the 750 looks small and cute enough....
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post Mar 19 2014, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(faridz7 @ Mar 19 2014, 08:52 PM)
thanks alot guys! really appreciate it

ok ive to look up on this Gainward GTX760 Phantom card

still have to do my research on the difference between the cards, like for example, I had my eyes set on the msi gtx 660 twin frozr which is priced at rm900+, and yet this gtx760 is much cheaper..

@Sentinel92 oh the reason for the in built cards for  the i7 rather than the xeon is because in case of gpu failure then at least ive the option to use the in built graphics card for my graphics work just for emergencies
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Well then, you can other get a Z87 Core i7 or follow Cable's X79 Core i7 build. Better to have a parachute than none at all I guess.

And get the Phantom 760. Its better for cheaper. Haha.
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post Mar 19 2014, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 08:53 PM)
U called me wot m8
Haha,i already saw people called my name incorrectly..5-6 times already.. tongue.gif
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I did it on purpose. I like calling you Mr Minecraft. tongue.gif laugh.gif
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post Mar 19 2014, 09:13 PM

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really appreciate this guys, will look up on this Phantom card and put it on my list and will share my final specs here

looking to get my new rig sorted start of next month when pay comes in!
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post Mar 19 2014, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 19 2014, 09:04 PM)
Got 750 TI GS. http://www.gainward.com/main/vgapro.php?id=925&lang=en
Bet it'll either be RM 690-ish icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif But the 750 looks small and cute enough....
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RM690 ish can get you Sapphire R9 270 OC RM679 OR Gainward GTX760 at RM789.. brows.gif icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 19 2014, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Mar 19 2014, 09:07 PM)
I did it on purpose. I like calling you Mr Minecraft.  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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Mr WC SENTINEL!! tongue.gif laugh.gif
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post Mar 19 2014, 11:15 PM

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Hey guys. My rig is about 5yrs old ady. Now only got time to upgrade my system. Just want to get your opinion, does this setup below is fine? Budget as low as possible. Gonna switch to Intel and mATX build. smile.gif

- Intel i3 4130 @ RM365
- ASRock H81M-HDS @ RM185
- Zotac GTX 760 @ RM799
- Bitfenix Prodigi M @ RM319

The rest part will be reuse from my current rig. Prepare for The Elders Scroll Online.
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post Mar 19 2014, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(creative zn @ Mar 19 2014, 11:15 PM)
Hey guys. My rig is about 5yrs old ady. Now only got time to upgrade my system. Just want to get your opinion, does this setup below is fine? Budget as low as possible. Gonna switch to Intel and mATX build. smile.gif

- Intel i3 4130 @ RM365
- ASRock H81M-HDS @ RM185
- Zotac GTX 760 @ RM799
- Bitfenix Prodigi M @ RM319

The rest part will be reuse from my current rig. Prepare for The Elders Scroll Online.
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Elder Scroll Online?That game favors a better CPU instead of powerful GPU.. smile.gif

Intel Core i5 4440 RM579
Asrock H81M-HDS mainboard RM185
Palit GTX750 Ti StormX OC RM599
Bitfenix Prodigy M RM319
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post Mar 19 2014, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 19 2014, 11:31 PM)
Elder Scroll Online?That game favors a better CPU instead of powerful GPU.. smile.gif
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Oh is it? sweat.gif But not just Elder Scroll, the current Titanfall and last year games i also intend to play. BF4, AC4, TR and such. I think better to go with better GPU? Or maybe follow your route?
The next upgrade might be end of this year when got budget.
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post Mar 20 2014, 12:11 AM

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Hi guys, need some advice here. I'm doing surfing & watching 1080p movies brows.gif & some light gaming occasionally (dota 2)

This is the rig i have in mind:

FM2+ A10-7850K
Gigabyte G1.SNIPER A88X
1TB WD Black
DDR3 1600Mhz 8GB RAM
475W psu
Cooler master casing

Some questions regarding this setup, cos i chose A10 APU & A88X mobo only:
1. I heard AMD notorious for heating issue? Should i get better cooling system instead of using stock fan?
2. shud i wait for ssd price to drop or upgrade now?
3. Can I dual screen output with current setup for gaming? 1 DVI 1 HDMI?
4. should i crossfire a R7 250 gpu or get better gpus?
5. Is 475W psu enough?
6. Did i miss anything?

Thanks in advance biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by cysam90: Mar 20 2014, 12:12 AM
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post Mar 20 2014, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(cysam90 @ Mar 20 2014, 12:11 AM)
Hi guys, need some advice here. I'm doing surfing & watching 1080p movies  brows.gif  & some light gaming occasionally (dota 2)

This is the rig i have in mind:

FM2+ A10-7850K
Gigabyte G1.SNIPER A88X
1TB WD Black
DDR3 1600Mhz 8GB RAM
475W psu
Cooler master casing

Some questions regarding this setup, cos i chose A10 APU & A88X mobo only:
1. I heard AMD notorious for heating issue? Should i get better cooling system instead of using stock fan?
2. shud i wait for ssd price to drop or upgrade now?
3. Can I dual screen output with current setup for gaming? 1 DVI 1 HDMI?
4. should i crossfire a R7 250 gpu or get better gpus?
5. Is 475W psu enough?
6. Did i miss anything?

Thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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Mind sharing what monitor you are using? icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 20 2014, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(cysam90 @ Mar 20 2014, 12:11 AM)
Hi guys, need some advice here. I'm doing surfing & watching 1080p movies  brows.gif  & some light gaming occasionally (dota 2)

This is the rig i have in mind:

FM2+ A10-7850K
Gigabyte G1.SNIPER A88X
1TB WD Black
DDR3 1600Mhz 8GB RAM
475W psu
Cooler master casing

Some questions regarding this setup, cos i chose A10 APU & A88X mobo only:
1. I heard AMD notorious for heating issue? Should i get better cooling system instead of using stock fan?
2. shud i wait for ssd price to drop or upgrade now?
3. Can I dual screen output with current setup for gaming? 1 DVI 1 HDMI?
4. should i crossfire a R7 250 gpu or get better gpus?
5. Is 475W psu enough?
6. Did i miss anything?

Thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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1. If you want to be on a safe side you could go for a cheap cpu cooler.
2. If you're bothered by the boot and how long it'll take to open a program an ssd is good.
3. I thought only 1 output for screening.
4. The 7850k is good enough for Dota 2
5. Why not a FSP Hexa 500w at RM 150? Good psu for this kind of build.
6. I think APU Utilizes a higher speed RAM for maximum potential. If you can get a 2133MHz RAM it will increase the performance of the APU.

Why not this?

Proc - A10-7850k - RM 679
Mobo - Asrock FM2A88M - RM 299 [ Support 2133MHz RAM ]
HDD - 1TB WD Blue - RM 189
RAM - GSkill 8GB 2133MHz RAM - RM 369
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w - RM 159
Casing - CM K380 - RM 149

All of this prices are from Idealtech. But first budget plox.
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post Mar 20 2014, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(creative zn @ Mar 19 2014, 11:36 PM)
Oh is it?  sweat.gif  But not just Elder Scroll, the current Titanfall and last year games i also intend to play. BF4, AC4, TR and such. I think better to go with better GPU? Or maybe follow your route?
The next upgrade might be end of this year when got budget.
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But imo,i3 4130 + GTX760 = bottleneck..no? hmm.gif

Seems like i3 is underpowered.
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post Mar 20 2014, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(cysam90 @ Mar 20 2014, 12:11 AM)
Hi guys, need some advice here. I'm doing surfing & watching 1080p movies  brows.gif  & some light gaming occasionally (dota 2)

This is the rig i have in mind:

FM2+ A10-7850K
Gigabyte G1.SNIPER A88X
1TB WD Black
DDR3 1600Mhz 8GB RAM
475W psu
Cooler master casing

Some questions regarding this setup, cos i chose A10 APU & A88X mobo only:
1. I heard AMD notorious for heating issue? Should i get better cooling system instead of using stock fan?
2. shud i wait for ssd price to drop or upgrade now?
3. Can I dual screen output with current setup for gaming? 1 DVI 1 HDMI?
4. should i crossfire a R7 250 gpu or get better gpus?
5. Is 475W psu enough?
6. Did i miss anything?

Thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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Costs involved:
CPU- RM679
Board- RM399
HDD- RM259
RAMs-RM239
PSU- RM139 (CM Extreme II, but I'd recommend a better unit)
Case- RM129 (CM K280)
Total: RM1844

1. AMD CPUs do not run hot, but the problem is the fans can be noisy at times. You can solve this by getting an aftermarket cooler, such as the Hyper TX3 EVO, the reduce the noise of the fan.

2. SSD prices are stagnant for quite a while right now... It might be a good choice for an upgrade, if your budget permits. tongue.gif

3. Not sure on dual screen setups since I do not have experience with them. tongue.gif

4. Note that Hybrid Crossfire only works for GDDR3 variant of the GPU, shown here:
http://www.eteknix.com/amd-kaveri-dual-gra...-graphic-cards/
Do bear in mind that Hybrid Crossfire can be buggy at times, and may introduce unwanted frame time latencies (i.e. stuttering in games). It might be a much better choice to work with discrete card, as outlined by TechSpot here:

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If possible, we recommend spending a little extra money on a competent mid-range graphics card for guaranteed performance in all of your favorite games. While AMD's latest APUs make an interesting value proposition on their own, it seems like there are few situations where it would make sense to buy the company's FM2+ platform for Dual Graphics between an APU and a low-end discrete GPU.


5. 475W is enough, but I'd recommend a better unit. The FSP Hexa 500W would be perfect for an entry-level PSU. tongue.gif



Personally, I'd recommend this build:
i5 4440-RM579
ASRock H81M-DGS-RM179
WD Caviar Blue 1TB-RM189
4GB DDR3 1600 RAM-RM124
Palit GTX750Ti StormX Dual-RM560 (GBros@Garage Sales)
FSP Hexa 500W-RM149
CM K280 Case-RM129
Total: RM1909

Even though it only has a single 4GB RAM, it has a much stronger single threaded performance, and a GPU that is almost as fast as the HD7850, with very low power consumption. If you want to cut the cost down, drop the CPU to an i3, and consider downgrading the GPU as well. icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 20 2014, 10:27 AM

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The Intel i3-4xxx CPU is sufficient to support most of the games out there, as most games do not take advantage of more than 2 cores. I think games like Crysis 3 are considered the exception, and is able to take advantage of up to 4 cores. If budget is a constraint, the i3 should be OK for >95% of the time.

In general, for gaming, the GPU is still the main bottleneck today, so if you are interested in a smooth, and enjoyable game play experience, the Geforce GTX760 that is recommended quite often here is a very good choice, especially if the price is ~RM850, which is a good deal. GTX760 will give a better experience compared to GTX750Ti.
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post Mar 20 2014, 10:44 AM

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There was a question on running dual GPUs in CrossFireX or SLI, versus a more powerful single GPU. I have done only one CrossFireX build before, and one SLI build, and my experience from those two builds has not been very good, with a lot of follow-up maintenance on drivers, game and driver settings, heat management, cable management, etc.

I personally think that single GPUs today are more than enough for most games, and the additional average frame rates is not worth the additional cost (GPU, M/B) and trouble.

If you really want to run dual GPUs, I found the Nvidia SLI set-up better compared to CrossFireX. It was more stable, and had less issues. There are also reports that CrossFireX dual-GPU set-ups are also not as smooth, due to synchronization issues, but it seems that this has been resolved now in the latest drivers.
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post Mar 20 2014, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(capitalFlynn @ Mar 20 2014, 12:20 AM)
Mind sharing what monitor you are using?  icon_rolleyes.gif
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& also thanks for all the views from everyone! rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by cysam90: Mar 20 2014, 12:11 PM
ChickenWorm
post Mar 20 2014, 02:36 PM

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Hi guys,

Would like your opinions on this build:

PROC: i5-4570 (Haswell)
MB: Asrock B85M-HDS
RAM: Team Elite DDR3 4GB 1600mhz
GPU: Asus HD7790-DC2OC-1GD5
PSU: Enermax NAXN 500W 80Plus

Will mostly used for gaming and movies.
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post Mar 20 2014, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(ChickenWorm @ Mar 20 2014, 02:36 PM)
Hi guys,

Would like your opinions on this build:

PROC: i5-4570 (Haswell)
MB: Asrock B85M-HDS
RAM: Team Elite DDR3 4GB 1600mhz
GPU: Asus HD7790-DC2OC-1GD5
PSU: Enermax NAXN 500W  80Plus

Will mostly used for gaming and movies.
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What is your budget?seems good,tho..
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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 20 2014, 10:27 AM)
The Intel i3-4xxx CPU is sufficient to support most of the games out there, as most games do not take advantage of more than 2 cores.  I think games like Crysis 3 are considered the exception, and is able to take advantage of up to 4 cores.  If budget is a constraint, the i3 should be OK for >95% of the time.

In general, for gaming, the GPU is still the main bottleneck today, so if you are interested in a smooth, and enjoyable game play experience, the Geforce GTX760 that is recommended quite often here is a very good choice, especially if the price is ~RM850, which is a good deal.  GTX760 will give a better experience compared to GTX750Ti.
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An i3 can also run R9 280X.. nod.gif
Goldfries once tried an i3 with R9 280X iinm,he said no problem.. wink.gif
Btw,Lingloong sells Gainward GTX760 2GB at RM789.. brows.gif

This post has been edited by Minecrafter: Mar 20 2014, 03:03 PM

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