it's not rely on chipset.. the cost also include better mobo component..
u got the point on the chipset.. that's why i take a risk to get M2N-E which use 570 SLI new chipset eventhough disable SLI ability..

i'm not very sure about biostar.. for me on selecting a mobo i look forward the oc features.. layout and also good bios..

correct.. got biostar and msi only..
the worst case.. no t-force and ultra/platinum... maybe pricey that time..
even asus also don't have.. only now came dfi..
but msi not that bad ler.. cheap n can oc still ok right..

@duarnt

is called 'warmboot'.. i also some times face it when doing 250fsb..
normal for oc setup.. but still can't really understand what's the prob.. maybe voltage supply not enough.. or maybe the mobo prob..

i also wonder..
i've tried the htt mul below 3 and fsb more than 250, the mobo requires more voltage on dimm.. eventough had reduced the ddr divider.. (by calculation both cpu and ram not oc at all)

that's why i just play with 10 n 9 cpu mul..
is it cpu mul, htt mul, fsb are also related to voltage demand? or the memory controller on the cpu itself? still blur on ddr2..

i did mention about the voltage before..

as u can see the pic that i ran the stress requires 1.4v for the cpu eventough can merely achieve 2.5ghz,
i just suppy 1.8v for the ram and keep its timing tight...

i've tried superPI for 800ddr setting, i've set 1.95v, loose the timing and set to 2T CR
on the stock cpu speed.. still stable... means KVR 667 can support 800DDR and for sure the M2N-E as well..
tough ppls had a prob when using M2N-E (i've proved them wrong luckily)

but the main consent is when i set 2.4ghz for the cpu.. which i understood 1.4v would sufficient enough to
power up a cpu.. but for sure it won't.. i need to add up additional voltage to make a system bootable and stable..

the question is why need that more cpu voltage when i can remain the same voltage for the ram at 1.95v to do 800DDR?
and ofcourse can use 1.4v for 250fsb while 240fsb cannot?

i really don't understand the current architecture, how they do the calculation, memory divider affect by the cpu mul and other related things that can prove the different setting would require different voltage supplies..

other thing that make me really confused when trying to play with cpu mul and the cpu htt...
if decrease the cpu mul below 8 or htt mul below 3, the system needs more voltage on the ram...

thus for now i just can assume the memory controller adjustment will affect the whole system settings..
or anyone here can enlighten me regarding the scenarios?

currently running at tight ram timing and 667 divider coz the superPi result more better even less cpu speed..
the memory bandwidth also no big different.. tight timing rockz...


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welcome.. at least got someone using msi platinum..
i think ur rig good enough.. just browse back to read about ocing am2..

This post has been edited by 8tvt: Sep 13 2006, 02:07 PM

3600+ can go 2.4g easily..
i'm also on stock heatsink..

DDR = double data rate..... so it's doubled thus u need to multiply by 2

HTT = AMD HyperTransport technology
http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=206

u really need to google dude..

great indeed..
mine cannot even surpase 1200..
not try to go further?
seems vcpu on default.. ever try to prime stable it?

i've primed mine more than 10 hours @ 2.45ghz with 1.4v but the temp reach 62c..
try 2.50ghz easily hit 65C so don't want to stress it more.. maybe if got good cooler..

u should run 2 copies of prime.. better download the beta for dual core..
http://sp2004.fre3.com/beta/beta2.htm

u can endup with more than 60c temp.. ram supply 1.8v would be enough.. and ofcourse u need more voltage for the cpu..

budget is everything...

@fantasy_kenny
how come u manage to clock 2.8g using default voltage? u set it auto or manually in the bios?

as the pic i'm refering the cpuz reading.. but for my case i cannot rely on it.. i put 1.4v in the bios but cpuz reported 1.2v..

if really can do higher speed with less voltage... maybe i should get a better cooler to reduce the temp..

haha i got same peak as urs.. now considering better cooler if the cpu can go even further with less voltage.. if can go until 2.8g.. i don't mind to invest on better cooler...
actually i'm quite happy with 245 now.. the temp not so bad and even stable for all application.. heavy task just on gaming which also not fully utilize it..

some tips for u.. i think ur ram can set to 1T.. 4-4-4-12..with 1.8v
with ur timming i manage to get 800ddr.. with 1.95v..
so pick urs.. for me.. i like to play with tight timing..

@pcmoddingmy
lyp shops like that.. last time i bought x2 3600+, the price in the list is just for bundle.. after some survey they normally add up RM5-10...
that day everage shop selling @ RM455-460.. if add more RM5-10 sure more expensive..
luckily big computers (viewnet) selling @ RM444.. but quote RM454 for cpu alone..
so i nego i got RM450 for X2 3600+ the price for the last 1-2 months..

that's should ok coz sometimes the voltage even flunctuate..

but for my case using asus probe (the mobo utility) and also speedfan give a right voltage.. so i suspected cpuz gave a error readings..

i'm no worry about the voltage.. just curious whether good cooler can make my cpu speed higher.. coz i believe my cpu also fall in to the same week/batch as most forummer here.. so should be able to clock same as urs.. just a matter of good cooler..

AC Freezer 64 pro good or not.. coz the price half the zalman..
or scythe infinity.. coz this 3 coolers got in our market especially for AM2..

found OCZ Tempest..
http://www.xsreviews.co.uk/reviews-66-page5.html

most of the review afraid to reach 60C... but here lyn ppl crazy enough to do more than 60C.. lol..

@Algojo
nice ram u got there.. better for u to browse back and study how to calculate the ram divider..
maybe u can try ~320fsb and ram divider set to 533..
320 x 9 = 2880mhz

2880 / 7 (533ddr divider as table on the first page for 9 cpu mul) = 411
maybe can tight the ram timing a bit...

put htt mul 3

if u crazy enough can put 350fsb.. if kaboom don't blame me.. lol...

normally core less heat than cpu..

why not try speedfan?
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

u using amd or what?

this is mine oc.. sometimes achieve 62C while stress load...
but during gaming the temp more less.. around 57C.. that's why stick at this clock..

@fenixtx
what htt mul u put? better set it 4 or 3

This post has been edited by 8tvt: Sep 20 2006, 10:15 AM


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last time i use chapalang psu also can oc high..

what ram divider ur using for both? good ram setting will boost super PI

i've told edi.. maybe relate to memory controller.. u need to figure it out...

same ram timing also?
maybe ur cpu throttling.. due to less power supplied..