Interesting. First time I saw it I actually took no notice because the program was so simple. Might not be good enough for a full stability check, but enough to find a rough limit for memory overclocking. Thanks.

for full stability, prime/orthos is still the best way

oh ya...

memtest also loads your cpu usage up to 100% with low~normal priority. therefore, you need to make sure that the cpu is 'averagely' stable so that you won't get reboot or crash during the test.

it test the remaining ram...
tat means the unused ones r tested by it...
those use rams no nid test liao mar...cauz if got problem sure BSOD or hang...
orthos is modified prime...can go read out at its site...

Hi guys,

I'll be trying my hands on OC the X2 3600+ soon. But, just to clarify some stuffs, need u guys wan advice here abit:

1. Basically, simple OC by changing the CPU frequency up to it's limit before it needs to increase the Voltage ?

2. As CPU frequency increases, memory frequency will increase too. So does the timing values, which means loose timings, and it's won't be able to complete super Pi as fast as 4-4-4-12 timings ? Voltage will need to be increase to reduce the timing at higher frequency , correct ?

3. The hypertransport speed will also increase, but should be kept below 1GHz, izzit ?

hmmm wat else did I missed out ?

Drats.. It was too dark for me to type a message.. *turns on the lights*


1) Basically it's best if you can find your max limit overclocking on the lowest voltage possible, eg, stock voltage. Well, none of us would mind bumping up the voltage providing it's within safe range and it could really contribute to some extra overclocking.

2) Right now.. You should know what you wanna overclock.. I was taught to overclock in a way that.. overclocks the proc and the ram invidually first only finding a sweet balance between both. Eg, I will find how high my processor can go, next I'll check on my rams, thirdly, I'll find the sweet balance which gives me the best results and stability without sacrificing much timing and clockspeed from both sides, especially when the DDR2 dividers are rather.. funny. And about increasing voltage when you wanna lower the timings on higher frequencies.. pretty much depends if your rams can take it actually. If it can, yes you can try to do that and see if it works.

3) Yes. Keep it under 1Ghz. Just keep the bloody HT Link at 3x since the very start of your overclock la. LOL.


Well, that's my overclocking method.. Others might very well have better or different opinions.

The timing wont increase...You better manual set the timing.

When HTT increase, only memory frequency, clock speed and HT link will increase.


-pWs-

Keke.. if you set it to auto.. *shudders*
One of my friends done that actually, set to auto and overclock. His E4300 done 3Ghz on stock, ended up with ram of timings 5-6-6-x.. At 800mhz.. LOL!!! That's Intel though.

But I think jy14 meant the timings required to be loosen when increasing frequencies la, not in a term of 'automatically' *shrugs*



OT@pWs: Eh no time to test test today.. I am still in Ampunk.. When i go back to Semenyih I'll try it out la ya.

This post has been edited by Enigmatic: May 14 2007, 01:10 AM

O..I see. Damn sleepy now...Misunderstood d
Btw, take your time to test the bios. I am busy of my final exam also


-pWs-

All the time I left those timings within the Auto settings, so, thats y it's increasing I suppose. But I know the RAMs that I using can easily reach DDR2 1000MHz at 5-5-5-15 timing at 1.9V on a C2D rig. So, now the concern is how far the brisbane can push lo.

I'll try to increase the CPU frequency(aka HTT ?) first, then oni c if the brisbane can reach how high without the need for increase in volts 1st.

Then, if I want to go beyond stock voltages, besides the CPU voltages, what other voltage that I can fiddle with ? DRAM volts I know can play but it's to increase the RAM's speed when it hits the limit. Any other stuffs to tweak ?

alrite -pws-, wish u all the best in ur exams 1st, i'll post my results here once I start to OC the brisbane. Will see if can match ur speed or not , hehehe

Ram will overclock differently with a different memory controller, just because the ram will reach DDR1000 on a C2D setup doesn't mean it will do the same on a AM2 setup (not that AM2 really needs that much memory bandwidth). Better if you set so that the HT link and DDR are NOT overclocked at all while you overclock your processor. Trust me, it'll save you a lot of headache later when you try to figure out whats holding your overclock back. In any case its pretty much guaranteed that anything will run stable when its running below default, so you can also go easier on stress testing (only test what you're overclocking).

Generally,

Processor will be stable if the voltage is at or above default while running at stock speed or slower. Ditto for HT link.

Memory will be stable if the voltage is at or above default while running at stock speed or slower with default or looser timings.

There are a few exceptions, but very rare. Mostly on very specific pieces of hardware only (typically memory).

my brisbane can even boot up @ 1.v..
1.1v default can set till 230fsb... that's on my M2N-E..
tried 285fsb with 1.26..

but the thing is.. my new TA690G mobo set startup voltage @ 1.225...
and lowest ddr option is 1.95v.. so no EE option... lol... set to 270fsb easily...

This post has been edited by 8tvt: May 14 2007, 10:49 AM


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wow finally sumsone is ocing wif this mobo...
ur ram timing nice le...
looks like it's really an oc mobo...got such high minimum vcore n vdimm...

This post has been edited by byfc2010: May 14 2007, 01:52 PM

How much ur vcore at 2.973GHz?? And what ur OPN code??


-pWs-

im kinda not really understand what u trying to say here...

tat means he cannot use lower vcore to boot on this mobo like wad he can do on his M2N-E lar...

owwwwhhh....
heheheh....
maybe bios not compatible....try update it ar.....

no lar...it's minimum vcore is high...higher than other board...

thats why try update the bios....maybe it change the vcore value....

oo yea hor...loL
forgot bout it...
reli gud oc wif this board i think...
the ram timing quite tight for tat speed on a kvr...

One thing I dislike about Biostar... minimum Vdimm is 1.95V