QUOTE(darklight79 @ Mar 13 2014, 11:57 AM)
what if skinny like me? No muscle to cut to, too fat to bulk...
Am I bulking too fast?
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Mar 13 2014, 12:04 PM
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Mar 13 2014, 05:32 PM
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Mar 14 2014, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(arul94 @ Mar 13 2014, 06:40 PM) lift weight bro and eat proper food to gain muscle..muscle doesn't come it self. That ain't me brah. Just showing the guy an example of skinny fat. I'm already 3 months in my cut.I think you have to start lifting get into shape first and then you can do bulking to grow bigger if you want to. |
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Mar 14 2014, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Mar 14 2014, 04:47 AM) Thanks for this totally unnecessary post. Do you actually post things like this for the sake of posting or you're actually serious? What part of my earlier comment was unclear? You're the one who judges yourself. Or if you want people to judge you, then post your pic instead of sounding so vague. You're welcome. But I'm kinda serious and hoping that you could give more insight to those who have the same dilemma that I had back then. Thought you could give info like slow bulk or recomp. Or to people who have much fat on them and the effect on estrogen or testosterone. In other words, I'm actually hoping that you could provide your point of view at this. Not just to me, just the mass majority of newbie who started with skinnyfat. My apologies for my vague initial reply. But I'm srs. don't always be on the edge la .. later no one dare to post anything in this section anymore... This post has been edited by GameFr3ak: Mar 14 2014, 12:36 PM |
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Mar 14 2014, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Mar 14 2014, 01:19 PM) Lol you were too vague. A recomp will take quite some time. A slow cut down to 10-12% seems legit then bulk. Cos if your bf% is too high, bulking will just make you gain more fat than muscle. Glad my decision is good. I was at 25% of BF god knows what'll happen if I choose to bulk lel thanks man |
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Mar 15 2014, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Mar 14 2014, 10:45 PM) Oh man.... too long of a post. You need to research buddy. But before you get influenced into IIFYM and pics of noodles, fried rice and stuff, do your research first and foremost. Find out why some of us can do it and get away with it, then strike a balance between the 2. You cannot be too strict and you cannot be too lax either. What advise would you give for someone who's on a cut for 3 months+ and have hit a stonewall with a deficit of 400/day? And also low TDEE 2000 - 400 = 1600 (very low already, can't go any lower). refeed? cardio? reverse diet > slow bulk? |
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Mar 20 2014, 07:58 PM
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Mar 21 2014, 09:55 AM
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Mar 22 2014, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(akiratm @ Mar 21 2014, 10:39 AM) depend. check your progress. if you find out there are no improvement after 2~3weeks. then you might consider reduce it more. I've hit a cut plateau at 70.8kg ~ 71.3kg for over a month. I went to a vacation, pretty much eat what I wanted (mostly sea food and rice). I came back and weighted myself at 70.3kg i personally doing maintenance calories on train day and 30~40% deficit on rest day. and it going well. my strength still same. you just need adjust according to your body. be patience, check on mirror and progress. hit hard, eat smart. I guess eating near/at maintenance helped normalize things a bit. I'll go back to eating at 1600 calories per day for 2 more weeks to see if I'm gonna progress further. My strength level didn't drop much throughout my cut as well. I've considered eating slightly more on my training days but the thing is, I train pretty much 6 days/week. Takkan I eat more 6 days/week lol. I'm now experimenting on eating more only on my worst body part day (push day for me). If I don't progress further after another plateau, I'll try dropping my calories deficit to 1500 calories per day. Thanks a lot man. |
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QUOTE(akiratm @ Mar 22 2014, 09:37 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « abang, 6x per weeks is too much. you can try gym every alternative day. your body need rest and heal too. rest day = calories deficit. more rest day = burn fat more easy right? Push/Pull/Legs/Off/Push/Pull/Legs/Off - repeat hmm I've never though about going even lower after 1600 calories. Is it seriously not gonna affect my over health? |
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Mar 25 2014, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(akiratm @ Mar 25 2014, 09:55 AM) as long as you get your nutrition right, and you didn't feel weak. why not? Big calories deficit (600-800 kcal) for long term, continuously, of course will affect the health. Thanks bro. I'll instead increase my activity (cardio 15 mins?) everyday. as for 6x gym per week, it is depend on individual. for my opinion, i will do 3 times per week, which is (Push/Rest/Pull/Rest/Legs/Rest/ = Repeated). Rest day = Calories Deficit 20~40%. just my 2 cent. it is depend on individual. it work for me might not work for you. Monitor your progress and do adjustment when necessary. |
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Mar 28 2014, 04:29 PM) why not? 2 years ago when i started off cutting, i ate 1k calories, top 1.5k. never more than 1.5k for entire 3 months. But would you be losing lotsa muscles? Though I would give going lower a try if I still stalls. Thanks man.coupled up with 5 days a week workout, 3 cardio sessions every week at least. i was healthier and more energetic, and pooped mroe than i did when i was eating unhealthily before i went for my first ever cut. ![]() top is my bro, 4.5 months progress overall, from june 2013 to november 2013. bottom is me. the timeline goes like this, first pic was in April 2012 (still summer in the states), then 2nd pic was in end of August 2012 (end of summer). 3rd pic was october 2013 (after 3 months cut). now at my bulking phase, all abs gone. eating at around 2.8k to 3k clean calories. BUT STILL troubles gaining weight.. darn.. QUOTE(slimey @ Mar 28 2014, 08:02 PM) Yeah man but I've been advised against going any lower than 1600 a lot on BB.com. Hence my dilemma. |
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QUOTE(slimey @ Mar 28 2014, 08:02 PM) bro, now that I think back to what you said, is this what people call "metabolism slowdown" ?Edit: did some reading, I think I get the gist of it. This post has been edited by GameFr3ak: Apr 3 2014, 05:03 PM |
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