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 RPGT for property disposed >1year, Can it be 0% if no profit made???

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post Mar 14 2014, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(PACINO @ Mar 14 2014, 10:38 AM)
Property will always go up , due to land is scarce as a commodity. You cannot create land out of thin air.

price may stagnate a little, and you might get some bargain all the time from people wanting a quick fire sale.

If Malaysians have holding power , how long do you think we can hold off our purchase of home ? Seems to me Malaysians in general have holding power , as we all still have jobs and no mid level heavy retrenchment and jobless.

Speculators are currently holding on their property , hoping that they can outlast the slowing down of property purchasers demand. They are tightening their belts , spending less in the retail markets and paying off their investment dues.

So let's see how long they can continue to scale down their lifestyle , or would they be victorious as buyers cannot wait to own their first home without sacrificing their lifestyle by living further away.
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government can reclaim lands... tell you only if they can hold longer than 10 years they survive the wave, holding below 10 years especially 5 years and below, see how they burn their hands in this market..

every market so silence di, no worries, they can hold osos no use, new developments coming, their credit locked in old properties one so competition lesser, with current market flippers sure be very careful couple with developers maximum profit means entry price high, this will make them shy away..

sure got ppl firesales one, many actually plan only to sell off upon VP, those times are still here, but the price quoted beats potential buyers...
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post Mar 14 2014, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Chaud @ Mar 14 2014, 10:45 AM)
oh...I misinterpreted  sweat.gif

means buy at 1m sell at 1.2m have to pay 30% of the 200k?
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yes only from gain, but need to include loan penalties, legal fees (sales & purchase & loan), stamp duties (loan & s&p).. when you bought from developer, and then another round of S& P legal fees when you sell...

and also, minus your initial deposit paied say 500k (50K), and any loan that you have service , say you pay 2.2 k monthly, you paid 10 months, that is 22k..

PROVIDED YOU CAN SELL, minus everything you get the nett, then divide by minimum 3 years or 2 years completions dates for new prop landed and high rise..

other than this it rugi kes... every month bleed 2.2k , sumore insurance fire, quit rent and assessment, and havent include MLTA and MRTA another extra RM200 per month, if flipping they wont bother..

all above this, you as an owner will then buy from them the inflated price, your burden will double of them.. good luck choose wisely, if deal is really good grab it..

first hurdle is the bank valuation anyting less tha 80% not worth it at all even 90% also need to kfully see the surroundings..

my 2 cents
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post Mar 14 2014, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Chaud @ Mar 14 2014, 11:05 AM)
but i thought all these legal fees borne by the buyer?
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no... as a vendor, these is also legal fees to be bourne. dun believe try selling one..
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post Apr 2 2014, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(edyek @ Mar 13 2014, 09:18 AM)
Sometimes it is not about UUU or DDD... Some people might just need the money for emergency hence selling way lower than market value for quick disposal.

So please dont make this an issue of UUU or DDD.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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That is right.. there are ppl who are desperately in need or emergency for money..

btw TS, is it a joint loan and joint ownership? If it is joint ownership.. edyek might come handy..
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post Apr 2 2014, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(gunh @ Apr 2 2014, 09:31 PM)
RPGT has nothing to do with property valuer.  Is the taxable amount from nett gain.  And nett gain is the amount u sell ( stated in snp) minus amount u buy (also stated in your old snp) and minus all the expenses incurred (such as leal fees, agent fees and renovation to the said property)

Please dont provide misleading information
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Ya lor dude must be meaning the adjidication of MOT.. if I m the one committing dat error.. ppl will spam me kao kao..

this is the 2nd incident di.. blatant errors in concept..
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post Apr 4 2014, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Apr 3 2014, 07:09 PM)
Excuse me..... U better speak to your lawyer before saying I'm feeding misleading information.....
If u transact your selling way below market price and declare without profits, TAX dept may impose their own market price as calculation......
Go ask first.....
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Smart dude ... your world class work is framed here..I wonder now....tapao me balik pulak..

This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Apr 4 2014, 09:16 PM
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post Apr 4 2014, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Apr 4 2014, 09:25 PM)
So wat is the problem with the statement?  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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You dare accussed me dunno diffetentiate when I fact It was you.. linking valuer with RPGT which was correctly pointed out by gunh.. remembrr
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post Apr 4 2014, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Apr 4 2014, 09:38 PM)
I'll repeat.....
If prop bought at 400k.....
Now sold or transact at 300k......
Market valuation is at 700k......
Tax dept MAY NOT accept the 300k the transaction price for calculation of the RPGT..... They may hav or determine the 700k as market value for calculating the RPGT......
So does it consider they hav their own valuation?
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There is only 1calculation of RPGT..
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post Apr 5 2014, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(gunh @ Apr 5 2014, 10:14 AM)
I'm not sure where you got your information substantiate from.  I can even sell the house at Rm1 to someone I like and draft the S&P and get it legalised.  What make you say I cannot sell the house below market price and Tax dept will come after me?  I guess you are the one that should go to speak to your lawyer.  You are indeed giving misleading information here.
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that is what i have been saying and referring.. dude is referring s stamp duty model in RPGT calculations and sumore bombard me..
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post Apr 5 2014, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(gunh @ Apr 5 2014, 10:35 AM)
who bombard u?  rclxub.gif
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same dude.. and his herd... i am not BBB, i leave some room for him.. i am not interested in degrading
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post Apr 6 2014, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(gunh @ Apr 5 2014, 04:13 PM)
The article itself explained why there is clause25 and how it works.  Not based on what essence which u have highlighted.  Clause 25 have to be read in full and not interpreted part by part like what you have said. If u read again the clause and the article, you will find clause 25(1) ,25(2), and 25(3) are inter relate. 

i have explained and shared enough. if you still want to maintain your believing, then i cannot stop you. But i will not changed mine.
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Walao argue to this level.. refer to hansard.. see parliament intention lahh.. we copy cat uk wat..

at the end any form arguements remain as it is.. courts and government will interpret so far to suit their needs.. more revenues for gov are never a wrong..

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