i have a question here,,,knw first tat i'm not anti proton,,i don't do butt dyno,ketuk2 for reliability or hoping sports performance on these cars.Priority of making car should always be like this as customer:safety(active<=passive))>reliability>efficiency>usability(market targeted)>performance...With that said,in my opinion neither perodua or proton have been producing really bad but good cars for the money n improved a lot(in detail,yes),,,i don't just do some barbarian styled evaluation.

However,this proton preve seems to be overrated to me.Considering it's price,performance,safety.It is EXCELLENT(having everythin under 1 package is engineers challange).
Well,crash test seems to be good.Engine is good.But there goes a story about engine efficiency.Many sites including proton Official site claims preve passes Euro Emission "5",WTF THIS IS TOTally unbelievab;e.Seriously i can't trust this men.
Here's like ,,"why' :honda vs preve.,,,think carefully pls>>lol,,pls
1.car weighs 1300kg.(heavy)..made with help of some guy from bmw(refer wiki+car curves,it do smell like bmw. ,,then honda city 2014 about 1050kg.

Both have cvt.
Both have good cayalytic converter.(assume honda's better because they tweak their own while proton use something on par with some good aftermarket stuff)
Both have cam profile(definitely vtec have better history n is on GM's top list,,it is a knwn winner).
Engine itself for sure honda made it better(not supporting this pricy rich kids car,,but Honda is GOOD,,engine,efficiecy,chassis,,they would have some fancy stuffs like..mmm..let say better aluminium application on engines(for weight saving)
Campro is dohc + honda is sohc(won't matter coz test of mpg is usually under 90kph,,,sohc still holds good power band)

The result on paper,,,f*** this:official 1 claims around(non-cfe) 6.2l/100km other sites 7-8l/km

well,for honda(i believe they r not influenced by their government to tokok tambah in order to make it a globall car instead being monitor strictly(not that strict,i knw,cars nw day have some quality issues)--but it's official and any other result claims -5.7l/100km(lighter body of honda/preve is heavy,that's fine but it's 1.5l engine pack more power n torque).
Thus if u understand how engines combustion efficiency effect Euro emission rating/How much green gas produced...less fuel per 100/km mean=better rating.(other factors like performance of catalytic converter are usually negligible n in this case is safe to be said equal)
How the hell does honda,which have better mpg does only have Euro emission of 2 while preve is '5"(more is better).Even ford's highly "fuel economy-focused" ford fiesta,some of them are only euro 3 n 4.But this not-so-fancy(it is good but...) engine +heavy body),achieves 5 n they even claim they have prepare it for future (it looks like edge of it in terms of mpg)

PLs forgive for long post n forgive me if i'm being rude,,,but that's normal, ,Pls read carefully,,n explain to me because reading statitics alone,nothing
No war pls,,. i would not like some replies from peeps who replies without them knw wat they r talking about,shouting,cursing,the statistic guy(robots),n pretty much,,pls,,stay away.

Other than that,the car sound perfect to me

This post has been edited by hdbjhn2: Mar 25 2014, 06:51 PM