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celdric
post Dec 16 2015, 01:29 PM

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After reading all over in this thread, seem like I should have order a Z5 Skylake GTX970M instead of GTX960M. But the price. T___T
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post Dec 17 2015, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Dec 16 2015, 01:39 PM)
I find it worth add-on extra RM 999 for the GTX 970M if you want much better gaming performance.
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If and only if I can fork out that RM999. Illegear did do Z5 Haswell with 970 price at RM4999 now versus Skylake 960 price at RM4599. I guess 960M should be quite overkill for online games. (seldom play offline game plus might just need a bit or so of CAD and Solidworks)
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post Dec 17 2015, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Dec 17 2015, 03:24 PM)
GTX970m performance is almost double of GTX 960m. DOTA 2 reborn requirement is getting higher. So... you should really think again. If GTX 965m I think is still can handle most of the game quite sometime. But 960m I dont think so.
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Which you mean that Haswell with GTX970M is better than Skylake with GTX960M for long run?
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post Dec 17 2015, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Dec 17 2015, 09:12 PM)
Yes, definitely, exactly and obviously.
Performance wise, Skylake over Haswell is neglect-able. Skylake is good in efficiency and power saving only. Skylake bring a long of advantages on ultrabook and tablet for more battery life.

When comes to gaming notebook, they are they same. You won't benefit from Skylake compare with Hawell. And you will never want to game on battery.
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I see. Thanks for your reply. But to remove Z5 battery need open up back cover to do so. Long period of gaming advisable to remove the battery?
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post Dec 18 2015, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Dec 18 2015, 12:05 AM)
I suggest you check the benchmark online before decide.

If money issue. I suggest you go for Z5 Haswell with 970M. It is much worth.
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I have check a numerous of article. 970M in nutshell win 960M by around 60%. rclxms.gif
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post Dec 19 2015, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(fish@5311 @ Dec 18 2015, 02:22 PM)
Since the chip is soldered on to the motherboard, the extra cash is worth the 60% upgrade for the long run.

My old gtx670m,  can still run most of today's demanding titles and applications at decent quality settings, sometimes better compared to the 760m, 860m chip sets which are newer generations of mobile gpus.

The 970m will take you at least 2 years or maybe more to be obsolete.  While the 960m will most likely be sufficient only for the near future.
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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Dec 18 2015, 02:24 PM)
You not believe in me huh? Told you the performance is double.  tongue.gif
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I am still in dilemma for that RM1k extra. Actually my usage will most probably with online games, some CAD, movie, music etc. Less likely will play a lot graphic demanding offline game
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post Dec 19 2015, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Dec 19 2015, 01:07 PM)
4999-4599=400

No? How is you come out with the 1k?
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Ohh sorry, I mean was Skylake 970 versus 960 is RM1k. Skylake 960 and Haswell 970 and 960 is RM400.
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post Dec 19 2015, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Dec 19 2015, 01:42 PM)
You are making the thing complicated. Haha...
If budget was your concern, Haswell 970m is your best bet.

I think I will not provide any comment any more.  blush.gif

Good luck ya!  laugh.gif
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Alright, thanks everyone!
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post Dec 30 2015, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(xersian @ Dec 30 2015, 12:19 PM)
I7 6700 + 4gb 960m vs i7 4700 + 6gb 970m

Latest processor vs higher GPU performance. Which one a better choice? Need to use the laptop at least for 5/6 years?
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This would be the same dillemma I have few weeks ago. I would share a bit of my insights. It's actually depend on your usage, are you gaming enthusiast? If Yes, get the 970M. If you're gamer and wanted future proof then 970M as well.

Skylake is better cooling with enable more future proof of DRR4 ram. But all these doesn't play much role when come to gaming performance. Cost wise also 970M is more expensive. In the end, it is all depend on how high the graphic you want to play your game.

The best future proof combo is i7 6700 + 6gb 970M which I once wanted to upgrade to that cost around RM 6k which set me back a little.
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post Dec 30 2015, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(xersian @ Dec 30 2015, 02:01 PM)
Can next 3/4 years games be played using 970 with highest setting?
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I haven't get my skylake with 960M yet. Couldn't commend much. 970M is more than 60% performance compared to 960M. What is coming out the next 3/4 years no one knows best, what can be sure is 970M will be able to play better graphic setting than 960M is for sure.

Like I mentioned Z5 Skylake with 970M should be quite a beast that can last for sometime if you able to fork out around 5.6k
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post Dec 30 2015, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Dec 30 2015, 02:11 PM)
Z5 970m vs S5; the latter wins hands down?
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Yea, if you are able to fork out the money I guess. tongue.gif
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post Dec 30 2015, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Dec 30 2015, 02:34 PM)
5.6 vs 6.2 not much difference leh, the screen for 5.6k seems much better than S5 though coz of promo.

though really prefer haswell 970 with aluminium.

Now im torn between Hw 970, Z5 970 and S5 970. Coz planning to throw in Microsoft office and windows 10 too. work out to be around 6k to 7k.

ROFL.
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Initially I limit my budget to around 4k, then fork out a little for skylake 960M. Heart wants 970M but Brain and Wallet say No. tongue.gif I think you save more if you a-hem the OS and get OpenOffice instead?
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post Dec 30 2015, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(xersian @ Dec 30 2015, 03:00 PM)
Why you didn't get the haswell 970 one? Only RM400+- different
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I initially wanted to get Haswell 960M only. Then stretch to Skylake 960M. Before I place my order, Prince J told me the Haswell 970M promo which torn my mind apart of which one to choose from. After that I settle with Skylake 960M as I barely got time for game now, the game I played mostly will be online game. So I guess 960M should suffice enough.
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post Dec 31 2015, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Neomax3 @ Dec 31 2015, 03:11 PM)
Guys,need some help.. Looking for something future proof here, maybe at least 5 years..

Z5 Haswell GTX970m or Z5 Skylake GTX970m

Please help me choose..
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The answer is pretty straightforward. Z5 Skylake GTX970M for future proof.
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post Jan 3 2016, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jan 2 2016, 07:04 PM)
Neomax3

y??
no usb 3.1 afaik, or type C
and with skylake dependence on Mobo VRM.. theres a higher chance of mobo degradation than haswell when long term expose to heat etc.

clock to clock 4720hq and 6700hq performs about the same with the former beating the later frequently.

So to be frank the gain is

1. CPU temps lower by 10C since theres no more integrated VRM
2. PCIE NVME SSD ( if u can afford a 512gb.. since anything lower doesnt make sense for a dedicated gaming laptop.. cheaper to get two msata ssd and raid them)
3. Support for 16gb single density dimm ram.

nothing is set for the future atm dude. The only gain ppl are talking about is temps.

So my advice choose based on ure budget with gpu u want first. 960m or 970m and then see whether it falls into haswell or skylake.

There is no such thing as future proofing. Just the Now
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Thanks for your insight, which mean Haswell i7 4700HQ 970M vs Skylake i7 6700hq 970M performance are about the same? Except temperature and battery life utilisation is better?

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post Jan 28 2016, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Jan 28 2016, 11:01 AM)
Nice item. Maybe we can include this in our customization options smile.gif
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QUOTE(hayrol @ Jan 28 2016, 11:21 AM)
It's look nice.
I wonder if its fit with Illegear D5 model as well.
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http://world.tmall.com/item/41361928278.ht...0714.0.0.tPYqGK
Can refer here for more including Z5 model. I already ordered mine, just waiting it to reach then I will test it out. If it is good, suggest Illegear can put in the customisation option in future, since quite a number of customers might want some protection on the keyboard.
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post Jan 29 2016, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jan 29 2016, 05:23 AM)
Hi.

I wonder if there's one for P150SM-A (Illegear RS-15).

Very interested to grab one if there's one?

I read the website, but since I don't understand chinese it was very difficult to navigate huhuhu.
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Hi there, I think you can refer to forumer cslance. He is using for RS-15. For my case, I am eyeing on Z5 only. Not very sure with other model. I will look for it later on. tongue.gif
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post Jan 30 2016, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(asn_11 @ Jan 28 2016, 01:04 PM)
cant wait for your review. if good will be interested to buy.
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Hi you can check it out here for the product. https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry78517607

 

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