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Wang KWSP dalam bank lesap
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SUSMrUbikeledek
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Mar 4 2014, 10:19 AM, updated 12y ago
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QUOTE BESUT - Seorang orang kurang upaya (OKU) terkejut wang simpanan KWSP berjumlah RM8,243.25 yang dimasukkan ke dalam akaun miliknya di sebuah bank di sini lesap.
Azid Mohammad, 55, dari Kampung Tasik Tok Lebai, di sini hampa kerana hasratnya menikmati wang simpanan hari tua hasil kerja selama kira-kira 15 tahun sebagai pemandu lori satu ketika dulu hilang sekelip mata.
Menurutnya, dia membuat urusan pengeluaran wang tersebut di pejabat KWSP Jerteh pada 17 Februari lalu dengan memberikan nombor akaun sebuah bank miliknya untuk dikreditkan pengeluaran itu.
“Saya mengeluarkan kesemua simpanan saya dan tiga hari kemudian saya terima satu SMS daripada KWSP yang memaklumkan bayaran pengeluaran telah dimasukkan ke bank berkenaan.
“Saya hanya ke bank berkenaan pada Ahad lalu bagi mengeluarkan wang itu bagi tujuan membayar urusan tanah pusaka milik ibu saya,” katanya.
Azid yang mengalami kekurangan pada kakinya itu berkata, dia menyerahkan buku akaunnya kepada kerani bank tersebut untuk dikemas kini kerana ingin membuat pengeluaran sebanyak RM7,000.
Bagaimanapun setelah disemak, kerani tersebut memberitahu akaunnya tidak mempunyai wang sebanyak itu kerana telah dikeluarkan sebanyak RM8,270 dua hari sebelum itu menerusi pemindahan Giro Antara Bank (IBG).
Katanya, dia amat terkejut mendengar berita itu apabila terdapat baki RM10.29 sahaja di dalam akuannya sedangkan dia tidak pernah mengeluarkan wang tersebut atau meminta sesiapa mengeluarkannya.
“Saya minta jasa baik pihak bank untuk siasat bagaimana wang tersebut boleh dipindahkan sedangkan saya sendiri tak tahu menggunakan IBG, tetapi gagal dapat jawapan kerana ibu pejabat bank ditutup sebab cuti hujung minggu (Ahad).
“Kemudian saya datang semula pada keesokannya seperti yang dijanjikan ke bank itu namun, hampa apabila gagal untuk mendapatkan punca bagaimana kejadian itu berlaku,” katanya.
Kata Azid, dia kemudiannya membuat laporan mengenai kehilangan wang tersebut di Balai Polis Jerteh, dekat sini.
“Sebelum ini pernah dua kali akaun bank saya dicerobohi iaitu pada 12 Ogos 2012 apabila sejumlah RM5,000 dikreditkan (dimasukkan) ke dalam akaun saya tanpa diketahui daripada mana wang tersebut, namun pada 1 September 2012 pula sebanyak RM5,149.50 dikeluarkan daripada akaun sama,” katanya.
Menurutnya, kejadian itu berulang pada 31 Disember tahun lalu apabila sebanyak RM3,400 dikreditkan ke dalam akuannya dan dikeluarkan semula dalam jumlah sama menerusi kaedah TRF.
“Saya tak tahu TRF tu apa, tetapi ada tertulis dalam buku akaun cara wang saya dikeluarkan,” katanya.
Sementara itu, Ketua Polis Daerah Besut, Superintendan Kamarudin Mohd Zakaria ketika dihubungi mengesahkan menerima laporan kejadian dan siasatan lanjut sedang dijalankan. http://www.sinarharian.com.my/mobile/edisi...-lesap-1.255047
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SUSFindingGamerWife
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Mar 4 2014, 10:24 AM
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So your account got ppl know password, but still continue using? what kind of dickens is this?!
furthermore IBG needs SMS confirmation. he lost his phone no report? wtf is wrong with this guy?
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jerm57
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Mar 4 2014, 10:25 AM
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Songlap!
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SUSSammich!
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Mar 4 2014, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Mar 4 2014, 10:24 AM) So your account got ppl know password, but still continue using? what kind of dickens is this?! furthermore IBG needs SMS confirmation. he lost his phone no report? wtf is wrong with this guy? the thing wrong wif this guy is he is oku
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SUSxtralimited
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Mar 4 2014, 10:26 AM
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IBG no need TAC?
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SteamieHP
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Mar 4 2014, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Mar 4 2014, 10:24 AM) So your account got ppl know password, but still continue using? what kind of dickens is this?! furthermore IBG needs SMS confirmation. he lost his phone no report? wtf is wrong with this guy? wtf is wrong with that guy? He is OKU for godsake
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SUSFindingGamerWife
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Mar 4 2014, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(Sammich! @ Mar 4 2014, 10:26 AM) the thing wrong wif this guy is he is oku he oku doesnt mean he has brain damage. if your password and account compromised, you report/change password/change TAC phone source.
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delon85
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Mar 4 2014, 10:28 AM
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i think someone opened online banking for his account without him knowing. the same person also registered their own phone number for that account.
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SUSSammich!
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Mar 4 2014, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Mar 4 2014, 10:27 AM) he oku doesnt mean he has brain damage. if your password and account compromised, you report/change password/change TAC phone source. maybe the oku is got do wif his brain?
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alien9
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Mar 4 2014, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(Sammich! @ Mar 4 2014, 10:26 AM) the thing wrong wif this guy is he is oku This is not a joke section sammich
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simpul
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Mar 4 2014, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Mar 4 2014, 10:24 AM) So your account got ppl know password, but still continue using? what kind of dickens is this?! furthermore IBG needs SMS confirmation. he lost his phone no report? wtf is wrong with this guy? come on.... he is a former lorry driver and oku... maybe tak ada siapa explain kat dier how these things work...
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idunnolol
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Mar 4 2014, 10:29 AM
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lol lol, ini mest kes jadi scammer then cry wolf
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99FoxDemon
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Mar 4 2014, 10:30 AM
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and worse is if his acc was use to scam pipul.
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SUSSammich!
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Mar 4 2014, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:28 AM) This is not a joke section sammich  ok sorry  forgive me
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SUSMrUbikeledek
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Mar 4 2014, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Mar 4 2014, 10:24 AM) So your account got ppl know password, but still continue using? what kind of dickens is this?! furthermore IBG needs SMS confirmation. he lost his phone no report? wtf is wrong with this guy? Not all peoples are gifted with a clever mind like you.
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nickchk89
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Mar 4 2014, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Mar 4 2014, 10:24 AM) So your account got ppl know password, but still continue using? what kind of dickens is this?! furthermore IBG needs SMS confirmation. he lost his phone no report? wtf is wrong with this guy? How u know he opened an ebank account? old folk like him wouldn't know any of that.. Impossible one open an ebank account just by ic and bank book,also need finger print to confirm the account is yours.
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abcde90
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Mar 4 2014, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(Sammich! @ Mar 4 2014, 10:26 AM) the thing wrong wif this guy is he is oku not cool man not cool indeed.
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SUSMrUbikeledek
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Mar 4 2014, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:33 AM) How u know he opened an ebank account? old folk like him wouldn't know any of that.. Impossible one open an ebank account just by ic and bank book,also need finger print to confirm the account is yours. Insider job?
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hafiez
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Mar 4 2014, 10:35 AM
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Takkan bank tak boleh trace duit tu pi bank mana, account sapa?
Owner yang inquiry kut....
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magi
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Mar 4 2014, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Mar 4 2014, 10:24 AM) So your account got ppl know password, but still continue using? what kind of dickens is this?! furthermore IBG needs SMS confirmation. he lost his phone no report? wtf is wrong with this guy? Hes a old lorry driver doesnt even know what is giro transfer, he would not know if there is online account created for him. WTf is wrong with you?
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krizalid88
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Mar 4 2014, 10:36 AM
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kesiannya.. worked for 15 years but EPF only have about 8k
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nickchk89
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Mar 4 2014, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Mar 4 2014, 10:35 AM) I don't know bro,maybe he lie or he been scam or something wrong with the bank(unlikely).
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SUSSammich!
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Mar 4 2014, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(abcde90 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:34 AM) not cool man not cool indeed. ya I insaf liao please forgive me.. my intention is only to explain findinggamerwife so he not blame the guy
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SUSFindingGamerWife
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Mar 4 2014, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:33 AM) How u know he opened an ebank account? old folk like him wouldn't know any of that.. Impossible one open an ebank account just by ic and bank book,also need finger print to confirm the account is yours. “Sebelum ini pernah dua kali akaun bank saya dicerobohi iaitu pada 12 Ogos 2012 apabila sejumlah RM5,000 dikreditkan (dimasukkan) ke dalam akaun saya tanpa diketahui daripada mana wang tersebut, namun pada 1 September 2012 pula sebanyak RM5,149.50 dikeluarkan daripada akaun sama,” katanya. Menurutnya, kejadian itu berulang pada 31 Disember tahun lalu apabila sebanyak RM3,400 dikreditkan ke dalam akuannya dan dikeluarkan semula dalam jumlah sama menerusi kaedah TRF. from the article. he saw TRF. he knows fishy things are happening to his account.
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dinnor
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Mar 4 2014, 10:37 AM
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org kampung mindset dia tak sama dgn org bandar.. dia amik mudah hal hal begitu.. aku syak yg sedara mara dia juga yg buat jahaat kat dia niii...
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idunnolol
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Mar 4 2014, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(krizalid88 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:36 AM) kesiannya.. worked for 15 years but EPF only have about 8k  this one really true tragedy, got 15 years but only 8k. or it you change it to days, its only RM 1.5 a day
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nickchk89
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Mar 4 2014, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Mar 4 2014, 10:37 AM) “Sebelum ini pernah dua kali akaun bank saya dicerobohi iaitu pada 12 Ogos 2012 apabila sejumlah RM5,000 dikreditkan (dimasukkan) ke dalam akaun saya tanpa diketahui daripada mana wang tersebut, namun pada 1 September 2012 pula sebanyak RM5,149.50 dikeluarkan daripada akaun sama,” katanya. Menurutnya, kejadian itu berulang pada 31 Disember tahun lalu apabila sebanyak RM3,400 dikreditkan ke dalam akuannya dan dikeluarkan semula dalam jumlah sama menerusi kaedah TRF. from the article. he saw TRF. he knows fishy things are happening to his account. Maybe he ask bank before? But,its hard to say, maybe he try to cover up his mistake(been scam) or something else happen.
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ELinawa
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Mar 4 2014, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Mar 4 2014, 10:24 AM) So your account got ppl know password, but still continue using? what kind of dickens is this?! furthermore IBG needs SMS confirmation. he lost his phone no report? wtf is wrong with this guy? QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Mar 4 2014, 10:27 AM) he oku doesnt mean he has brain damage. if your password and account compromised, you report/change password/change TAC phone source. a lorry driver live in besut, oku and with a kwsp of <10k in 15 years.. do you think he a 'celik IT' guy? confirm someone else make an e-banking account without his consent..
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krizalid88
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Mar 4 2014, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Mar 4 2014, 10:40 AM) this one really true tragedy, got 15 years but only 8k. or it you change it to days, its only RM 1.5 a day  kesian liao.. if worked for 1 month or 22 days then means 1 month is RM33 or at least 11~13% of his salary so means his salary is about Rm250~300 per month
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idunnolol
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Mar 4 2014, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(krizalid88 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:48 AM) kesian liao.. if worked for 1 month or 22 days then means 1 month is RM33 or at least 11~13% of his salary so means his salary is about Rm250~300 per month  my breakfast cost more than his paltry rm 1.5
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flyf
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Mar 4 2014, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(krizalid88 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:48 AM) kesian liao.. if worked for 1 month or 22 days then means 1 month is RM33 or at least 11~13% of his salary so means his salary is about Rm250~300 per month  i think it means most of his time, no KWSP masuk.
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lagenda
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Mar 4 2014, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Mar 4 2014, 10:27 AM) he oku doesnt mean he has brain damage. if your password and account compromised, you report/change password/change TAC phone source. if he don't register online banking. but someone register his account with scammer phone number. yeah it's so easy done it. my friend also kena his first salary gone because. he open maybank account but didn't register maybank2u. the scammer register for him and scam his money. and yeah you're stupid.
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Lifeis@mess
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Mar 4 2014, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Mar 4 2014, 10:24 AM) So your account got ppl know password, but still continue using? what kind of dickens is this?! furthermore IBG needs SMS confirmation. he lost his phone no report? wtf is wrong with this guy? QUOTE(xtralimited @ Mar 4 2014, 10:26 AM) lolwut. since when Inter Bank Giro(IBG) can be done only for online? Do you guys never transfer money from 1 bank to another bank using ATM? its called IBG too lmao. The one using online is called 'Pemindahan Dana Interbank Giro Untuk Perbankan Atas-Talian' or 'Inter Bank Giro Transfer for online'. You guys must thought the 'i' for IBG stands for internet issit? Bodoh lagi dari OKU lmao. This post has been edited by Lifeis@mess: Mar 4 2014, 11:46 AM
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shinkawa
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Mar 4 2014, 11:09 AM
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i think its rhb bank.
you can easily create online account RHB as long you know the atm card number and password.
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iOnine
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Mar 4 2014, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Mar 4 2014, 10:24 AM) So your account got ppl know password, but still continue using? what kind of dickens is this?! furthermore IBG needs SMS confirmation. he lost his phone no report? wtf is wrong with this guy? 1. he's 55 2. lorry driver 3. OKU conclusion is, he's from hulu (kampung) you think theyre fully aware on how thing works? some of them dont even know how to operate a computer nor an ATM machine. please stop being retard. i guess ure having brain damage? have some respect. gosh some "educated" people iz soooooo dumb.
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xelrix
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Mar 4 2014, 11:10 AM
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to those who assumed his oku is in the head, read the news properly... QUOTE Azid yang mengalami kekurangan pada kakinya itu berkata, though he might have been pretty uneducated/unaware/uninformed if he didnt report to the bank about his account misuses.
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Strike
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Mar 4 2014, 11:41 AM
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sohigh some ppl this is not suprising for me, in 90s money bsn acc gone while acc owner in perak, transaction made in JB. they said owner teleport.. money never recover, no compensation made
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seather
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Mar 4 2014, 11:50 AM
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inside job or he lost IC b4...
some banks that i know, u need ATM card to apply for one-time online banking password... n u need to show IC to apply for ATM card...
his is old account, i doubt online banking is enabled by default...
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Black Red
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Mar 4 2014, 11:52 AM
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I think he opened the account with somebody he knew, then that somebody use his account for money laundering, small time taiko.
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clouds
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Mar 4 2014, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Mar 4 2014, 11:27 AM) he oku doesnt mean he has brain damage. if your password and account compromised, you report/change password/change TAC phone source. ko punya bodoh lagi teruk dari orang OKU
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SUSahter
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Mar 4 2014, 12:46 PM
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azid .... azid ....
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PS4 Fanboy
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Mar 4 2014, 12:57 PM
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Damn city kids nowdays, he is OKU, old people living in kampung in besut, former lorry driver somemore, maybe no knowledge in internet or computer at all. Pegi bank also pakai buku lagi maaa.
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Zefreonnoerfez
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Mar 4 2014, 12:58 PM
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Let's pray for pak cik ni
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SUSMamapapamsia
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Mar 4 2014, 01:17 PM
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Must be one of those crap banks like BI, BSN, BR and whatnot. Definately inside job!
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rewlie
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Mar 4 2014, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Mar 4 2014, 10:24 AM) So your account got ppl know password, but still continue using? what kind of dickens is this?! furthermore IBG needs SMS confirmation. he lost his phone no report? wtf is wrong with this guy? konon berlagak pandai, duk bandar kononnye, end up kene bash kat sini, muahahahahahhaha
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MsGaijin
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Mar 4 2014, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(PS4 Fanboy @ Mar 4 2014, 12:57 PM) Damn city kids nowdays, he is OKU, old people living in kampung in besut, former lorry driver somemore, maybe no knowledge in internet or computer at all. Pegi bank also pakai buku lagi maaa. PS3 Fanboy?
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SUSNismoConcept
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Mar 4 2014, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Mar 4 2014, 11:24 AM) So your account got ppl know password, but still continue using? what kind of dickens is this?! furthermore IBG needs SMS confirmation. he lost his phone no report? wtf is wrong with this guy? Keyword is: Kampong dude I doubt he knws all these procedures
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ps3 fanboy
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Mar 4 2014, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(MsGaijin @ Mar 4 2014, 02:04 PM) NOT ME
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bentayan_hijau
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Mar 4 2014, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Mar 4 2014, 10:32 AM) Not all peoples are gifted with a clever mind like you. ya betul tu bro Mr Ubi.. so jangan bongkak sangat
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johnny82
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Mar 4 2014, 02:18 PM
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kesian the old man eh he doesnt know any online account shit la i bet its insider job or sth damn these ppl..
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SUSGlockers
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Mar 4 2014, 02:19 PM
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Orang OKU pon nak buat bahan lawak…lahanat betol
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alanyuppie
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Mar 4 2014, 02:19 PM
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Kecian the man. Not just at a age of not being IT savvy, he's an OKU means he have problem getting from one point to another. This might further demotivates him from going from places to places to find out whats wrong.
We can't compare with able bodied young IT savvy paranoid people who scared shit few cents deducted from their account.... go high and low to investigate for peace of mind.
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homicidal85
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Mar 4 2014, 02:21 PM
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poor guy  he sounds like a person who really had a tough life and needs the money. i really hope he gets it back somehow.
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eaglehelang
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Mar 4 2014, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(ELinawa @ Mar 4 2014, 10:41 AM) a lorry driver live in besut, oku and with a kwsp of <10k in 15 years.. do you think he a 'celik IT' guy? confirm someone else make an e-banking account without his consent.. Thing is 2X his account got ppl deposit and take out money. He should already suspect hanky panky and dont use that account. My 70 yr old housewife mum also know this. This pakcik OKU is his leg, not his brain. Could be some insider job who started the online banking This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Mar 4 2014, 03:38 PM
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SUSFreeloader
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Mar 4 2014, 03:38 PM
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I hope the cyber police catches this criminal and punishes that person to the fullest extend of the law.
Not everyone is internet savvy. Kesian that fellow.
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SUSMrUbikeledek
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Mar 4 2014, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Mar 4 2014, 03:36 PM) Thing is 2X his account got ppl deposit and take out money. He should already suspect hanky panky and dont use that account. My 70 yr old housewife mum also know this. This pakcik OKU is his leg, not his brain. Could be some insider job who started the online banking i bet he already informed the bank. That's what most kampung people would do.
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mumeichan
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Mar 5 2014, 08:42 AM
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Although I kacian him because he must have had a hard life, oku, savings got stolen etc, I don't think poverty is an excuse to not keep up with the times.
I've seen people who read old newspaper, discarded magazines and all those stuff. Many times when I'm in kl I see old people coming up to me to ask thing, how to do this and that.
Unless theyre mentally challenged, there is no reason not to keep up with the times and learn things. If you don't you're destined to get cheated. There is no shortage of people out there who will take advantage of people who lack knowledge whether young or old, rich or poor.
I see alot of old people have this mentality. I don't know la, I tak tau la, too hard for old people la, never use before la. Then they depend on their kids to do everything for them. Their kids can be supervising them 24/7 in the end one of those corn will come along, especially MLM
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