PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V59, Y U NO READ FIRST PAGE!!?!?!
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 Mar 5 2014, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 5 2014, 02:29 PM) i tak paham itu dyno test.. itu dyno test purpose untuk apa a? to c whether the light mod got any improvement la....only fast car do dyno test. slow car & factory spec car wat for do dyno test.  |
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Mar 5 2014, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 5 2014, 11:16 AM) Upcoming track day on Apr/May/Jun (Date TBC) speedfest?It will be a "have-fun" track day. Strictly not competitive. Siapa mau? |
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Mar 5 2014, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 5 2014, 03:35 PM) to c whether the light mod got any improvement la.... light mods? such as?Sh@rty 5 if install front speakers for saga fl how much a? This post has been edited by iskazulka: Mar 5 2014, 02:38 PM |
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Mar 5 2014, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 5 2014, 01:17 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «  |
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Mar 5 2014, 02:50 PM
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Iska, dyno run or test is to see or check whether the mods you did to your car really improve or not. Like how mighty car mod guys did.
2ndly, dyno run is also useful to check your engine health and AF ratio over the entire rpm range in actual driving condition. One also can use a dyno machine to tune a car that is installed with aftermarket piggyback, standalone ECU or adjust the AF ratio on the fuel regulator...etc |
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Mar 5 2014, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 5 2014, 02:37 PM) light mods? such as? 80? Haha those for lorry, something mid would be around 2xx .Sh@rty 5 if install front speakers for saga fl how much a? own saga now sedang psg active sub n change hu haha |
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Mar 5 2014, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 5 2014, 02:33 PM) u sohigh driver can GTFO, who ask you one. So rude...  Leona ask one. |
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Mar 5 2014, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(Sh@rty 5 @ Mar 5 2014, 03:52 PM) 80? Haha those for lorry, something mid would be around 2xx . why la mahal? no porrfag pricing punya range a?own saga now sedang psg active sub n change hu haha inb4 me poorfag. |
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Mar 5 2014, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 5 2014, 02:50 PM) Iska, dyno run or test is to see or check whether the mods you did to your car really improve or not. Like how mighty car mod guys did. sifu explanation is the best~! 2ndly, dyno run is also useful to check your engine health and AF ratio over the entire rpm range in actual driving condition. One also can use a dyno machine to tune a car that is installed with aftermarket piggyback, standalone ECU or adjust the AF ratio on the fuel regulator...etc  QUOTE(Sh@rty 5 @ Mar 5 2014, 02:52 PM) 80? Haha those for lorry, something mid would be around 2xx . now active sub how muchie?own saga now sedang psg active sub n change hu haha |
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Mar 5 2014, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 5 2014, 03:57 PM) sifu explanation is the best~! i like dabid's one better. now active sub how muchie? why not u change new front speakers + install active sub, the old speakers u give me ok? |
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Mar 5 2014, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 5 2014, 02:47 PM) nice torque figures bro I don't think my torque is nice....still room for improvementQUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 5 2014, 02:57 PM) sifu explanation is the best~! Me not sifu la.....like iska said David's explanation is better but I also want to see how david explain it. iska, also a dyno chart is useful for the driver to know how the engine outputs power and the torque curve so you can use that information to change your driving style so that your engine can performance better....for example, at what rpm, my torque is how much then what gear to use..etc...etc...this is useful for track driving but also can be used on daily driving one..I'm still learning to interpret the chart and use that info. |
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Mar 5 2014, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 5 2014, 04:03 PM) I don't think my torque is nice....still room for improvement alot ppl will bang wall after hearing your torque is not nice.» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « i believe further improvement will require quite some $$ with the state of the ride. need to touch internal parts ? |
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Mar 5 2014, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 5 2014, 02:59 PM) i like dabid's one better. david wan of course is good coz very detail explanation... why not u change new front speakers + install active sub, the old speakers u give me ok? QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 5 2014, 03:03 PM) I don't think my torque is nice....still room for improvement my auto cannot do like u do oh...Me not sifu la.....like iska said David's explanation is better but I also want to see how david explain it. iska, also a dyno chart is useful for the driver to know how the engine outputs power and the torque curve so you can use that information to change your driving style so that your engine can performance better....for example, at what rpm, my torque is how much then what gear to use..etc...etc...this is useful for track driving but also can be used on daily driving one..I'm still learning to interpret the chart and use that info. |
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Mar 5 2014, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 5 2014, 04:10 PM) david wan of course is good coz very detail explanation... i just like his style only, not the explanations. my auto cannot do like u do oh... inb4 dabid's FC president This post has been edited by iskazulka: Mar 5 2014, 03:12 PM |
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Mar 5 2014, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(MylesAuto @ Mar 5 2014, 03:09 PM) alot ppl will bang wall after hearing your torque is not nice. Really?? why? I find my torque curve quite normal...i believe further improvement will require quite some $$ with the state of the ride. need to touch internal parts ? further mod will be more expensive already and not going to do any soon also...if want more power will need to increase the CR, stroke up the capacity, currently, my internal mods are all DIY home made stuff....no bench flow test, certified and just learn from overseas forum....but now I focus on upgrading the brakes, and more tuning on the suspension. Power wise, is enough for now and more important is how to put all those horses to good use and how to improve on the braking. QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 5 2014, 03:10 PM) david wan of course is good coz very detail explanation... can try see what's the max can go with just bolt on parts and some DIY mod.... my auto cannot do like u do oh... This post has been edited by TitanRev: Mar 5 2014, 03:27 PM |
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Mar 5 2014, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(MylesAuto @ Mar 5 2014, 03:09 PM) alot ppl will bang wall after hearing your torque is not nice. Money is something that doesn't bother him among us. i believe further improvement will require quite some $$ with the state of the ride. need to touch internal parts ?  Is never a problem for gunker.  |
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Mar 5 2014, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Mar 5 2014, 03:29 PM) Money is something that doesn't bother him among us. Is always a problem.....not enough money.... Is never a problem for gunker. |
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Mar 5 2014, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 5 2014, 04:23 PM) Really?? why? I find my torque curve quite normal... maybe is just me, the torque is stable entire rpm range which is very good.further mod will be more expensive already and not going to do any soon also...if want more power will need to increase the CR, stroke up the capacity, currently, my internal mods are all DIY home made stuff....no bench flow test, certified and just learn from overseas forum....but now I focus on upgrading the brakes, and more tuning on the suspension. Power wise, is enough for now and more important is how to put all those horses to good use and how to improve on the braking. can try see what's the max can go with just bolt on parts and some DIY mod.... from your chart i am seeing ~ 10% from max torque entire rpm range. if i am not wrong, for our engine the different from max torque during 3k rpm or above 5k rpm should be way more than that which would make it a steep torque climb from 3k onward & downward after 5k rpm. hence the reason i say ppl will bang wall. by stroke up to 1.6 u would be able to increase the CR at the same time. do correct me if i have mistaken the info. QUOTE(2JayZ @ Mar 5 2014, 04:29 PM) Money is something that doesn't bother him among us. Is never a problem for gunker. that applied to you as well right. print $$ @ backyard.when can i bolo the machine for just 5 mins ? |
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Mar 5 2014, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 5 2014, 02:56 PM) why la mahal? no porrfag pricing punya range a? pasar road speaker,1 for Rm 15,1 pair RM 30,sound as good as stock saga speaker,not enuff bass oni,k thx byeinb4 me poorfag. |
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Mar 5 2014, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(MylesAuto @ Mar 5 2014, 03:59 PM) maybe is just me, the torque is stable entire rpm range which is very good. Oh...now I understand what you mean...is my torque curve very flat....I never saw other BLM torque before....would be nice if can see it so I know what's the difference. I got suggestion to use 1.6 rod and maintain 1.3 piston...from your chart i am seeing ~ 10% from max torque entire rpm range. if i am not wrong, for our engine the different from max torque during 3k rpm or above 5k rpm should be way more than that which would make it a steep torque climb from 3k onward & downward after 5k rpm. hence the reason i say ppl will bang wall. by stroke up to 1.6 u would be able to increase the CR at the same time. do correct me if i have mistaken the info. |
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