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post Mar 12 2014, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(joe405 @ Mar 12 2014, 09:14 AM)
kita semua sama manusia tapi tak semestinya sama pendapat dan pandangan..

u ada u punya pendapat, orang lain pun ada pandangan dan pendapat masing2.

tapi end of this story, everybody in this thread love Arsenal

ignore the others club fans.. why should bother with them?

u support arsenal ka or their club? they want to troll.. let them be
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being critical about the team you support does not make you less a fan. Being critical means a person wants the best to happen to the club. Blind optimism and support breeds extremism. I am thankful that you guys are not involved in politics.. else, ppl with such mindsets will eventually go down the path of terrorism sweat.gif

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post Mar 12 2014, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(VisionX @ Mar 12 2014, 09:43 AM)
finally, some rational comment from fan here. You have my salute, SIR  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Only extremists never question the ways and methods of the people or ideals they follow or support. There can be support but there should be discussions and be critical when things are indeed wrong. Blaming referees, 8 years of back luck, injuries, lack of funds are no similar to blind hate of the westerners by the radical terrorists. This is not a mindset a football fan should have.

A football club is in the business of winning, it is not a place of rehab. Always remember that.
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post Mar 12 2014, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(ico12 @ Mar 12 2014, 10:58 AM)
Woah very deep. Terrorism radical what?  sweat.gif I just want to point out that all of us here LOVE Arsenal, when the team did not perform as expected it's normal to vent our frustration somewhere and there is no better place than this forum because here we have people with similar interests etc. You don't expect us to speak about this at the office or at home when the audience does not even know the offside rule isn't it? So all the negativities are channeled here but 2-3 days later we will all be back to happy mood.
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Football club is like your girlfriend la. If your gf buat hal, you jadi tension, you go sing song with friends to release tension. After that back with your girlfriend. Masih sayang  wub.gif

So just bear with us  nod.gif
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post Mar 12 2014, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Quick` @ Mar 12 2014, 12:30 PM)
i understand where you are coming from, but we are no where near extremist or blind optimism,
not even close to a trait of terrorism....unless you can justify, provide some facts of us being so
i'll take is as just mere random words and our story ends here.

anyways,
in terms of criticizing, i am criticizing VisionX mentality of giving up leg 2 against BayernM prematurely
IMO,that is simply so wrong in so many levels, especially when we are Arsenal FC
not Hull City or Crystal Palace.

try to imagine every clubs giving up the 2nd leg just because their first leg they are down 1-2 nil
imagine what this act would reflect to the football world, what impact it would do to major competitions and such etc etc,
the last time McCarthy fielded a reserve team when he manage Hull City against some big teams he got fined,
and not only that, at the end of the road he got fired and hull got relegated
Deportivo La Coruna came back 5 - 4 on aggregate against the Mighty AC Milan in the UCL 2004 after losing 4 - 1 on the first leg, and they to were fighting for La Liga title.

i think its just some of the fan's
they call is realistic, i call it lack of believe..they call it extremist, i call it lack in faith.
that's fine, i guess i gotta respect their opinions vice versa.

come to think about it, it pretty much relates to gaming as well, been playing Dota for more then 10 years now
I've seen people giving up games so fast, where they put no effort in fighting back, there are also countless game where i re motivate my team to fight back and won the game, and those moments are fking priceless. I realize gamers these days have very lil fight back mentality in them, that's disappointing and these type of breeds are seriously growing in numbers,I kid you not.

no use arguing/debating about this no more, its simply a clash of believes.
thus that's fine gotta respect VisionX opinion,
Sorry if i offended ne1.
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no offense taken. There is still two competitions to go. Fight till the end smile.gif nod.gif

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post Mar 24 2014, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(cainconan @ Mar 24 2014, 09:36 AM)
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revenge  cry.gif
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yeah stick to your game because only it will offer you solice. laugh.gif sweat.gif
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post Mar 26 2014, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(aladdin @ Mar 26 2014, 06:20 AM)
emmmm...how abour spurs? spending 100M....are their at the top?  thumbup.gif
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dont compare other ppl's troubles to console yourself. why not look at those who win spending little money or win spending alot of money. this mindset of always looking at other people's weakness to console oneself is not very different from our current Govt. Always compare Msia to third worlds like Cambodia, Laos and then say Msia very power what doh.gif
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post Mar 26 2014, 01:11 PM

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Indeed, like some the you guys have pointed out. Support Arsenal FC not Wenger FC. No, supporting Wenger does not equate to supporting Arsenal FC and neither does supporting Arsenal FC you must support Wenger FC.

Whatever is best for the club, you support that person / player. At this point in time and for the past 7 years, Wenger is not doing much good for Arsenal FC. If anyone wants to talk sentimentality, I feel that next season is the time to erect a statue of Wenger for his achievements, but yet at the same time "push" him up to the board. In that way, one can be grateful for what he does and at the same time prevent him from causing more hurt.

As for who to employ, well, there is always someone. Never try never know but what we do know is if we stick with Wenger it will all be the same again. Arsenal fans are rather similar to the families of the MH370, one day the hope is up, one day its down...but eventually.. it ends up in defeat or for the case of MH370... ended in indian ocean sweat.gif
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post Mar 26 2014, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(undentifyxd @ Mar 26 2014, 02:30 PM)
lol at the negative fans right here we only lost one game in march and suddenly we on the downfall to lose everything
focus on the fa cup and remain top 4 till the end of season i will be happy
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Lol.. I am sure the board at Arsenal and Arsene himself have the same mentality as you. No wonder Arsenal can always challenge but will never win.

Hmm come to think of it, I am sure those at Putrajaya also have the same mindset as you. doh.gif
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post Mar 26 2014, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(genexern @ Mar 26 2014, 02:53 PM)
Actually 6-3 being mauled against Man City, Arsenal are playing Ozil, Ramsey and Walcott in the lineup.
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Ignore those kiddos.. their support is bordering on the extremism. I wouldnt be surprised one day they will say, Arsenal lost because the weather too cold la, the bus stuck in jam la, Thierry Henry didnt play la, Giroud didnt have enough sleep the previous night before the football match because he is helping his mum clean the house la.. laugh.gif icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 26 2014, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(joeroxworld @ Mar 26 2014, 03:38 PM)
I didn't said that we don't have money, I said we just can't compete with unlimited fund teams.

Yes indeed they are stingy.

That is what i said "They "play safe" to stay relevant and profitable"
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There are so many clubs who can be profitable and yet still win games. If only wanna be profitable and dont care about winning, then turn the club to a merchandize company or something. Football is to win. You dont go parading around your beautiful (wanna talk about beautiful, this season's Liverpool play a better brand of football to be honest) style of play on top of a victory bus. hmm.gif laugh.gif

The play beautiful and earn profit are just excuses to console oneself of the years of pain. cry.gif

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post Mar 27 2014, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(joeroxworld @ Mar 26 2014, 05:28 PM)
Winning the league is not a simple task man.

Liverpool took how many years to get back on track.

Arsenal is on the right track just need to spend some money.

Need to have large pool of talented players to compete through out the season.

Btw, I don't mind waiting for a tittle or trophy.
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post Mar 28 2014, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(joeroxworld @ Mar 27 2014, 04:16 PM)
Challenging big teams. I guess u do know how big is their squad compared to us (except Liverpool).

When we talk about club's ambition we need to look at our board's ambition too. (money)

Lets just focus on FA cup against Wigan.

I do feel your frustration man.
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If no money then buy smart, not buy cheap. You are talking as if Arsenal has no world class stars. Aint too long ago I heard people boasting how Giroud is as good as Benzema or at least on par, that Carzola, Wilshere, Ramsey, Ozil, Podolski are world beaters. The Szceny is a world class keeper on par with anyone in this world and the best defensive pairing in BPL and possiblity Europe, Koc and Per. Now suddenly you are talking as if Arsenal is a Wigan whom only rely on 1 or 2 good players.

And you wanna talk about injuries? Bad luck? Come on la, bad luck for 8 years? The medical team needs a review, Wenger's training needs a review. And when medical team and Wenger's training methods all suck, yes, outsider will see Arsenal as suck as well. Thats the way it is. And dont talk about admiring his style and philosophy. A winning style is something to admired, not a 8 year empty one. Want style go compete in "So you think you can dance" Want to support a profitable organization go support Apple Inc. Your blind and extreme way of supporting Wenger's flaws is no different from the extremist in Afgan. Shame on you for not wanting the best for Arsenal. Remember, supporting Wenger does not equate to supporting Arsenal. Supporting what is best for Arsenal is and for this past 8 years, Wenger is not good for Arsenal. Back in the 2000s he was. WAS.

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