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 v9.0 The OFFICIAL 3G/5G Honda City 2011 thread, The new City, where to next?

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post Sep 8 2019, 08:22 PM

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Anyone pump ron 97?.

I had pump few cycle and omg, difference is so obvious. Ron 95 petronas pro drive, when accelerate engine noise is noisy, press harder its scream even louder. High speed 140kmh feels out of breath already.

Put ron 97, power delivery so smooth, no longer feel sluggish, engine roar when accelerate is remote/lower. At 140kmh feel still got power left for push for top speed not like 95. Mileage is improve by at least 50km also.

Eventhough expensive by 50 cent but mileage is more. So not that far expensive considering value its bring.

I think our city is like compulsory to pour in 97, otherwise acceleration is so sluggish.

Anyonr have same though?
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post Sep 10 2019, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Milo_O @ Sep 10 2019, 07:55 AM)
It is not compulsory  laugh.gif
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Pump back ron 95. The annoying rough sound when accelerate coming back. I hate that sound plus sluggish feel from standstill 😅😅.

I tot 16inch so big for city hence sluggish pickup. Never know ron 95 is the real culprit.

So its like a compulsory for me. Bye bye ron 95. I think will always put 97 after this.
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post Oct 31 2019, 06:31 PM

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Just do 190k km service at kah motor. Kena rm550.

next service is major service 200k km estimate 1k plus. never service outside. no problem to date. touch wood.

up to 6 years, service every 5k km at sc. after that every 10k km at sc.
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post Oct 31 2019, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Oct 11 2019, 03:17 PM)
today ride in my colleague new high spec city. so much difference in term of comfort level.

maybe cause
- absorber, suspension (mine replaced with shokz absorber)
- tyre rim 15" vs 16"

and of course, the general new vs old.
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ur is 15inch, 175/65R15 right?.

even with thick profile tyres not as comfortable as newer 16inch model?. means new model really comfortable liao like that.

I use 16inch stock, 1.5e, when new, tyre equipped with conti cpc2. ride quality quite horrible. so harsh and bumpy. now use cc6. much more comfort. cannot use other than cc6. cannot stand harsh feeling of medium performance tyre.
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post Nov 1 2019, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Oct 31 2019, 08:00 PM)
Yes. Confirm KYB is more stiff and bouncier than Showa original absorber.
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Cant imagine how the stiffer level of kyb, since I felt, showa already a bit stiff. Lel.
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post Nov 5 2019, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(forrest @ Nov 5 2019, 05:44 PM)
i asked one of the honda service centre, and they quote me for RM16K, yes RM16k.
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RM16k for honda city?. What item?.

Seems like cut head liao. Lol.
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post May 9 2020, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ May 8 2020, 07:39 PM)
Nice seeing this car is still getting loved by many here. Im into my 9th year, and i intend to keep it as long as it doesn't have any major issue, in the future, either as 2nd car or ship back to my hometown for my bro.
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Yes, this car is very very reliable. I still send my car to service centre till today. Only expensive parts I change outside. Shocking thruth is, after almost 9 years, this car got very less problem as compare to my proton. Lol. Proton once enter 200k km, parts already fallen one by one, not cheap oso to maintain since a lot of parts need to be change. And Honda parts can be considered cheap also.

Really worth my rm90,800 price tag I pay for this car brand new cars few years ago.
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post Oct 23 2020, 08:14 PM

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use 97 b4, and its less vibration above 120kmh. u will never feel 95 vibrate at high speed until u switch into 97..97 smoother than 95.

but now drive below speed limit, so stick to 95 all the time. longer time already no fill 97.

Last time cruise 160kmh feel shiok with 97.
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post May 3 2021, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(pikafaded @ May 3 2021, 09:25 PM)
Has anyone tuned their gear ratio to make it even low rpm while crusing at highway speed? Just curious if it can be done hahaha sorry for this stupid question
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Not possible. got 2 limitation. engine power and gear ratio. mercedes and bmw damn low rpm at high speed, due to their 9gtronic and zf8 speed. and powerful engine easy to sustain cruise speed.
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post May 3 2021, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(pikafaded @ May 3 2021, 10:17 PM)
I see, thanks for explaining. For this car cruising at highway speed definitely has lower rpm compared to other 4 speed AT car. It is also quite fun to lower to 4th gear using pedal shift on highway to get a little bit power.
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ya lor. need to cukur. I go rent car, those proton and perodua, 120kmh, really above 3k rpm,while city 140kmh only 2900rpm. see how big the difference.

higher rpm make u feel like u drive fast, but see meter. walaweh, only 120kmh. and if speeding, engine damn noisy.

I dunno if those used to drive conti, 180kmh around 2k or 3k plus. for sure they dont even want touch jap car.

lower rpm: effortless drive.
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post May 3 2021, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(pikafaded @ May 3 2021, 10:34 PM)
Ohh that means let say we change the gear ratio to higher so it can achieve lower rpm on high speed but then the engine not enough power to push it la?
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logically like that. if not, every manufacturer do it already. dont think those myvi can get 2k rpm at 140kmh. power not enough to sustain such speed at those rpm.
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post Oct 18 2021, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Oct 17 2021, 06:13 PM)
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ur headlamp is quite yellow as compare to me. but but but. how come ur bumper not got stone chip?. u never enter highway?. I fucking jealous bro..my car paint all around quite good. but stone chip many.tookek. follow car infront quite far still kena.
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post Nov 13 2021, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(pikafaded @ Nov 13 2021, 10:32 AM)
Hey guys, just curious if you are getting a used City let say Year 2014 with both GM2 and GM6 available, will you go for GM2 which is more reliable and less problematic or GM6 which is newer and having more advanced features?
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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Nov 13 2021, 10:35 AM)
I will opt for GM6 on the CVT gearbox
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QUOTE(pikafaded @ Nov 13 2021, 11:31 AM)
Because of better fuel consumption? Cuz 5AT is more fun to drive and quite reliable
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Nov 13 2021, 11:40 AM)
The GM6 CVT gearbox is prone to CVT belt snapping.
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GM6 lor. gm2 is very reliable. but beh tahan, startup so fucking sluggish. and some part, got small jerking.

Cvt is cvt. damn smooth. but cannot hentam like gm2.

For day to daily and overall experience, gm6 is more gooding. I use gm6, but still keep gm2. sayang to let go this transformers.
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post Nov 13 2021, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(pikafaded @ Nov 13 2021, 09:18 PM)
Ohh you own both, what's the difference you feel between these 2 generations? I think the main difference will be driving experience right, cuz wont feel the gear shift in CVT, other more or less should be the same? Or maybe you have the V spec that has cruise control.
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gm2 feel planted and stable, due to hard suspension. I feel gm2 also heavier. gm6 I believe honda maybe cut weight to make it accelerate better, and softer suspension compare to gm2 make it more comfortable compare to gm2 a lil bit harsh ride, but downside is feel very floaty.

if u read people on /k and f&f, all hentam city said not stable/floaty. they all refer to gm6. if they drive gm2, feel solid wo. that gm2 era, all honda use hard suspension such as fd2 until people complain ride is hard and lil uncomfortable.

cvt wont feel gear definitely as no gear in the first place. so at any speed is smooth. 5at is smooth too, just at lower speed and standstill feel honda may not tune it properly hence feel jerking/sluggish/rough.on high speed, gear change is ok. If u gila type one, downsift using paddle shift really fun on gm2, as u really feel the real gear. downshift on cvt is no feel. and feel useless too.

gm2 1.5E, gm6 1.5V.

So, u heart said gm2 or gm6?. lol. I think price difference quite a lot between this 2. If u can afford, just getting which one is newer since less wear and tear.

my friend use honda city cvt problematic model one b4 gm2. then sell change gm2. then racun me, so me follow along. then he sell his gm2 for gm6. I follow along but keep gm2 and now he just get his gn2. this one I not follow. lol. as I love to keep car and garage full already

So much love for honda city. I know out there also people keep changing exact same model once new model available. lol.

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post Nov 14 2021, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(pikafaded @ Nov 13 2021, 10:28 PM)
Last time when my dad bought me this used GM2, I thought the suspension has problem cuz I'm used to sit in his Camry XV30 which has thick tyre sidewall and soft suspension which is known to be comfortable to sit in lol

Slow speed acceleration I agree, like not enough torque to move the car. I once test drive my friend's GM6 for a short distance and realize better acceleration, not sure whether is transmission reason or weight like what you mentioned.

GN2 should feel like a big improvement in terms of space and maybe stability? cuz larger dimension even though same wheelbase
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Yezza. suspension is hard. combine with honda stock from factory conti premium contact 2(cpc2). really made it good for cornering. but later on I change xm2, I change cc6, all eco tyre. beh tahan cpc2 ride,although I really miss cpc2 cut water like champ.

Yeah, GM2 u need to push it, only power come if from standstill. GN2 I belip got improvement in NVH. But in term of engine power, I feel quite dissapointed. Said Dohc bla bla bla, but output almost remain the same from GM2. Should increase output lor. 2009 to 2021, 12 years same output. topkek.

QUOTE(Thrust @ Nov 13 2021, 10:31 PM)
Actually all automatic transmission will have occasional slight jerk when changing gears. It is their inherent design.
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But I feel gm2, quite noticeable. maybe honda rush to produce 5 speed at for malaysia market to replace previously problematic cvt gearbox

I believe initially perhaps honda plan to use cvt for gm2. but malaysia driving style maybe not really suitable for clutch based cvt. so they force to use 5at.


QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Nov 14 2021, 09:44 AM)
Goes you guys make me love my gm2 more lol
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yes lor. this car, dont sell lor even buy another new car. engine is powerful enough. reliable. quite cheap to maintain and problem free.

hard to get this problem free car at this modern era.
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post Oct 21 2022, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Oct 20 2022, 01:06 PM)
And then one problem follow by another problem

flywheel oil seal failed and causing minor leaking  doh.gif  doh.gif

Andrew told me to hold on till close to replacing the ATF then only one time replace it all
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Oct 20 2022, 01:16 PM)
Flywheel oil seal leak is quite common especially on older cars.

Mine is leaking too but not too much.
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does this same with engine oil seal leak?. as after service 220k km at Kah Motor Honda, they said my engine is leak..and got quotation rm1100 to repair but not yet repair..next month plan to repair

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post Oct 21 2022, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Oct 21 2022, 11:08 AM)
Engine oil leaks is even simpler to repair... And the cost won't breach rm500.. might only cost you around 300-400 only if u visit vmag.
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ok..will visit outside shop for sure..
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post Oct 21 2022, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Oct 21 2022, 11:08 AM)
Engine oil leaks is even simpler to repair... And the cost won't breach rm500.. might only cost you around 300-400 only if u visit vmag.
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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Oct 21 2022, 11:30 AM)
it depends on the leaking location
do you have the quotation to share ?

heard that flywheel oil seal replacement cost more than other area leaks as involve alot of component to taken down just to replace a oil seal.
those valve cover gasket ,vtec solenoids,cam thrust o ring replacement plus workmanship are below RM300
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ok. this is the quotation

so..please sifu give ur though on this. I snap this from honda service advisor pc. had crop already the pic. hope they dont know about this.

edit: minors that rear door latch rm97.05, this is not related to engine leak, but I want to repair this, so they include in as well in the quotation

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post Jan 7 2023, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Oct 21 2022, 11:08 AM)
Engine oil leaks is even simpler to repair... And the cost won't breach rm500.. might only cost you around 300-400 only if u visit vmag.
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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Oct 21 2022, 11:30 AM)
it depends on the leaking location
do you have the quotation to share ?

heard that flywheel oil seal replacement cost more than other area leaks as involve alot of component to taken down just to replace a oil seal.
those valve cover gasket ,vtec solenoids,cam thrust o ring replacement plus workmanship are below RM300
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Oct 21 2022, 05:38 PM)
this was mine from vmag earlier this year. engine oil leak too.
at first preliminary check, they thought its transmission oil, price thereabout 600-700. they were busy, ask me to come back on next Monday.
turn out its engine oil upon closer checking when return.

fully satisfied! about half a year now.

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Hello..digging old topic. as I had repair the leaking. but still not yet solved.

first, I sent for top leaking..but then, after top leaking solved. still leak, then bottom leaking..then after check. still got leaking, but this time is flywheel oil seal. the fuck. lol. but the pomen said, city only got this 3 leaking. and they need to do step by step, from top to bottom, then only can diagnose the flywheel oil seal leaking.

what is ur opinion on this. and Flywheel oil seal repair is close to 1 thousand. topkek. and 1st and 2nd repair is like 5hundred each. what is your opinion on this?. and I just service change gearbox oil, now need to change again. topkek.

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post Jan 7 2023, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Jan 7 2023, 11:55 AM)
Just go to vmag and get the flywheel oil seal replacement. It won't cost you rm1000. Probably 30-40% lesser than that.
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