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post Nov 28 2014, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Nov 27 2014, 05:21 PM)
Do share if you are able to create your Media Center with low power consumption capability with me ya! rclxms.gif
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From kodi testing, the idle is at about 6w, and full steam also, around 15w only IIRC

power brick is rated at 65w, way way lower than a typical htpc. The i3 power brick needs a 45w one only!

my only reason to get this is due to having it being left on 24/7, hence need the low power consumption
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post Nov 28 2014, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(jerm @ Nov 28 2014, 08:45 AM)
From kodi testing, the idle is at about 6w, and full steam also, around 15w only IIRC

power brick is rated at 65w, way way lower than a typical htpc. The i3 power brick needs a 45w one only!

my only reason to get this is due to having it being left on 24/7, hence need the low power consumption
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Have a separate really low powered device for your torrents.

Like many others, I have a raspberry pi for torrents. At the same time, I have a few media players that are used for watching only and their power consumption is not any issue.

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post Nov 28 2014, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(skeelee @ Nov 28 2014, 09:00 AM)
Have a separate really low powered device for your torrents.

Like many others, I have a raspberry pi for torrents. At the same time, I have a few media players that are used for watching only and their power consumption is not any issue.
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that is a thought

i have a thin client which i'm planning to hack with a hard disk and extra ram that may be able to do the job. this was supposed to be the original plan, to use it as the media server, but it's a crappy piece of device.

thanks for the advice!
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post Nov 28 2014, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(skeelee @ Nov 28 2014, 09:00 AM)
Have a separate really low powered device for your torrents.

Like many others, I have a raspberry pi for torrents. At the same time, I have a few media players that are used for watching only and their power consumption is not any issue.
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have a 24/7 i3 4130 NAS turned on 24/7, didnt really notice an increase in electricity bill before and after getting it smile.gif
Haswell standby performance is REALLY low, not much to worry on terms of power consumption

I dont have a Kill-A-Watt meter or anything so can only give a subjective answer to this, but there are many data available online which further proves my point~
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QUOTE(kherel77 @ Nov 27 2014, 11:00 PM)
Thanks bro...installed Plex for testing but seems movie database was hard to sync compare to XBMC, plus some of it not accurate. Or maybe me that still can't figure out how to do it properly.
*Errr....no PLEX thread in this forum?  sweat.gif
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not accurate ones u can manually alter the search term, using the webGUI. Just try exploring the webGUI and try out the functions, should be a pro in using it in no time tongue.gif
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post Nov 28 2014, 05:53 PM

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Hey guys,

I'm back. Have not upgraded my 10mbps yet... Got some issues gotta wait... Might be able to get maxis for free... But at the cost of throttle from 8pm to 2am? Ugh. Pay rm199 or maxis for free? Lol

Anyways... Been trying to get navi-x to get going. But can't find Disney junior channel. Anyone knows which repo or add on is good for it?

Also any add on for football especially EPL? For my dad.

Managed to get the old stb to work with my homeplug also. Had to buy a new one. The Aztech did not work.

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post Nov 28 2014, 09:28 PM

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quote from WildChai - Anyways... Been trying to get navi-x to get going. But can't find Disney junior channel. Anyone knows which repo or add on is good for it?


just follow avfan post on top of this page on superrepo and you'll get Disney jnr

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post Nov 29 2014, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(arslow @ Nov 28 2014, 11:47 AM)
not accurate ones u can manually alter the search term, using the webGUI. Just try exploring the webGUI and try out the functions, should be a pro in using it in no time tongue.gif
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Thanks for the guide bro... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Nov 29 2014, 01:10 AM

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great job bro.
just start playing with xbmc this week.
lots of thing to learn yet.

1st problem is how to run faster..
1channel only using 400-500kbps only on my stemex 5mb

but if i watch from iTrailer.. its running @4.5Mbps

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QUOTE(numbbell @ Nov 28 2014, 09:28 PM)
quote from WildChai - Anyways... Been trying to get navi-x to get going. But can't find Disney junior channel. Anyone knows which repo or add on is good for it?
just follow avfan post on top of this page on superrepo and you'll get Disney jnr
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knew about "that" disney jr addon...works but very limited episode. just a few and lots of 5 mins previews. I need a live TV like those in Navi-x or bbts. but cant find a working one so far.
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post Nov 29 2014, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(WildChai @ Nov 28 2014, 05:53 PM)
Hey guys,

I'm back. Have not upgraded my 10mbps yet... Got some issues gotta wait... Might be able to get maxis for free... But at the cost of throttle from 8pm to 2am? Ugh. Pay rm199 or maxis for free? Lol

Anyways... Been trying to get navi-x to get going. But can't find Disney junior channel. Anyone knows which repo or add on  is good for it?

Also any add on for football especially EPL? For my dad.

Managed to get the old stb to work with my homeplug also. Had to buy a new one. The Aztech did not work.
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live disney jr, nick jr, etc. ca be found in bbts. Go to the bottom of all channels to find it. between bbts and livestreamspro, there are many disney, nickelodeon, cartoon network stations.

epl... as i was asking, there is no live station that telecast these epl matches only. they may be found in many stations, incl skysports 1-5 on bbts and assp 1-4 on livestreamspro. u need to know what match is telecast what time on which station. not so good video (ok for small tv) , may not be stable but better than nothing....


btw, kodi is now kodi 14.0 helix beta5, you get the new logo!

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This post has been edited by AVFAN: Nov 29 2014, 11:54 AM
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post Nov 29 2014, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(arslow @ Nov 28 2014, 11:45 AM)
have a 24/7 i3 4130 NAS turned on 24/7, didnt really notice an increase in electricity bill before and after getting it smile.gif
Haswell standby performance is REALLY low, not much to worry on terms of power consumption

I dont have a Kill-A-Watt meter or anything so can only give a subjective answer to this, but there are many data available online which further proves my point~
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if you're not running any form of RAID spread with parity on it, even an atom is more than enough for NAS purposes to just to serve files.
an i3 or an i5 or i7, 22nm process haswell while it's still conservatively low compared to yesteryear processors, it's still not as low as an embedded processor.

the processor itself has a TDP of 54W. expect full load system power to hit ~150W and idle at 50W-100W. if you're running windows as the OS server it will be higher than a console Linux or BSD.
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this is haswell running linux server:
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yes the OS plays a part in the power consumption.
this is all moot if you run plex media transcoding on the NAS as those require quite a capable single threaded CPU.

QUOTE(jerm @ Nov 28 2014, 08:45 AM)
From kodi testing, the idle is at about 6w, and full steam also, around 15w only IIRC

power brick is rated at 65w, way way lower than a typical htpc. The i3 power brick needs a 45w one only!

my only reason to get this is due to having it being left on 24/7, hence need the low power consumption
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it's lower than a typical htpc, but it lacks the multitude of storage options. also the main components are not upgradeable.
you lose quite a lot of htpc flexibility with the intel nuc. it's just a bit better than a media player.

if you need to run it 24/7, an embedded solution like raspi or banana pi have much lower power consumption (~1W) and could be had for ~RM100. and build a proper htpc (~50W power) that you only turn on for high bitrate movies.
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post Nov 29 2014, 07:05 PM

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Hi ppl,

I have installed 1 channel after hearing all the raves about it but I can't streaming anything off it. sad.gif
I'm using a 5M line from TM and I'm the only user. Is it just me or is 1 channel not so friendly for Malaysian users? Is there another alternative? I don't mind lesser selection but I would prefer a smoother streaming experience.

Any help/info is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.


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QUOTE(limsy @ Nov 29 2014, 07:05 PM)
Hi ppl,

I have installed 1 channel after hearing all the raves about it but I can't streaming anything off it.    sad.gif
I'm using a 5M line from TM and I'm the only user.  Is it just me or is 1 channel not so friendly for Malaysian users?  Is there another alternative?  I don't mind lesser selection but I would prefer a smoother streaming experience.

Any help/info is greatly appreciated.  Thank you for your time.
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nothing to do with 5mb line or malaysian users.

understandable about yr frustration as a new user as it is not plug n play.

for others to help u, u need to provide more info....

.. what device are u using?
.. how is device connected to TV or avr or something else?
.. what version of XBMC or Kodi used, obtained from where?
.. did u change any settings or all is default after installation?
.. can't get only 1channel to work or can't get anything to work?
.. what other addons or plugins hv u tried?
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ugh...BBTS...why you no have in mac!?
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post Nov 29 2014, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Nov 29 2014, 01:08 PM)
if you're not running any form of RAID spread with parity on it, even an atom is more than enough for NAS purposes to just to serve files.
an i3 or an i5 or i7, 22nm process haswell while it's still conservatively low compared to yesteryear processors, it's still not as low as an embedded processor.

the processor itself has a TDP of 54W. expect full load system power to hit ~150W and idle at 50W-100W. if you're running windows as the OS server it will be higher than a console Linux or BSD.
user posted image

this is haswell running linux server:
user posted image

yes the OS plays a part in the power consumption.
this is all moot if you run plex media transcoding on the NAS as those require quite a capable single threaded CPU.
it's lower than a typical htpc, but it lacks the multitude of storage options. also the main components are not upgradeable.
you lose quite a lot of htpc flexibility with the intel nuc. it's just a bit better than a media player.

if you need to run it 24/7, an embedded solution like raspi or banana pi have much lower power consumption (~1W) and could be had for ~RM100. and build a proper htpc (~50W power) that you only turn on for high bitrate movies.
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yes, all your points are very true, and the main reason i went for that i3 rather than a simple celeron was because of plex. xbmc is used for playing back media on the tv, but with the plexbmc addon, so the core of my media consumption is the plex media server smile.gif (on unRAID OS which is based on Slackware)

NUC is more of a really premium way of maxing out the capabilities of xbmc. iinm a raspberry pi isnt able to passthrough HD audio, though I have no idea if he needs that or even has a receiver capable of decoding those formats

This post has been edited by arslow: Nov 29 2014, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(arslow @ Nov 29 2014, 10:58 PM)
yes, all your points are very true, and the main reason i went for that i3 rather than a simple celeron was because of plex. xbmc is used for playing back media on the tv, but with the plexbmc addon, so the core of my media consumption is the plex media server smile.gif (on unRAID OS which is based on Slackware)

NUC is more of a really premium way of maxing out the capabilities of xbmc. iinm a raspberry pi isnt able to passthrough HD audio, though I have no idea if he needs that or even has a receiver capable of decoding those formats
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if you have lots of untouched bdrips or remuxed bds, then i reckon even an i3 would struggle handling them. transcoding them i mean.
plex requires powerful single threaded cpu for vc1 decoding and transcoding.

have you got any performance issues with plex transcoding with say, 2 simultaneous transcoding job?

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yes raspi isn't capable of bitstreaming hd audio. but the board in itself, isn't exactly capable of handling high bitrate movies with all the lossless audio in it. which makes it a cheap streaming solution for lower bitrate movies directly connected to the tv hdmi input, without transcoding.

This post has been edited by paskal: Nov 29 2014, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(paskal @ Nov 29 2014, 11:07 PM)
if you have lots of untouched bdrips or remuxed bds, then i reckon even an i3 would struggle handling them. transcoding them i mean.
plex requires powerful single threaded cpu for vc1 decoding and transcoding.

have you got any performance issues with plex transcoding with say, 2 simultaneous transcoding job?
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its a sin to transcode remuxed BDs tongue.gif
those are usually played back on the TV on my fireTV. Plex is used only for series as they are watched using mobile devices by many in the house, or even when we're outside. Just tried a few scenarios:-( server is set at "make my CPU hurt" settings)

1 1080p transcode(with int. sub and max quality settings) and 1 720p transode(with int. sub and max quality settings) was smooth,. do note audio was also being transcoded here.

3 720p transcode with the above settings was also smooth. 2 1080p trancodes at the same time wasnt possible without buffering on one client. This is more than enough for my current situation as most clients plys back the videos without video transcode and only audio transcode, which doesnt pose any issue up to 5 simultaneous transcodes( I have not tried more than that, as even 5 is an unlikely situation lol)

all the above transcodes are itunes videos(WEB-DLs)

did try with one remux, transformers 4 with similar settings as above, couldnt have another 720p trancode at the same time without buffering lol. But then again a movie is never played using plex on a mobile device, unless its a laptop, and that doesnt need a video transcode.

was almost gonna get a xeon while NAS shopping, glad I didnt biggrin.gif but yeah transcoding is really heavy on the CPU nod.gif

the raspi is a great client to get xbmc up and running for someone who doesnt require much from xbmc (basically most of the casual users) but the board itself, with its appearance would most probably put off alot of people, thinking its something for advanced tinkerers sweat.gif

If only I can somehow get 23.976Hz and HD audio passthrough on my fireTV, things would be so perfect...

This post has been edited by arslow: Nov 29 2014, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(arslow @ Nov 29 2014, 11:38 PM)
its a sin to transcode remuxed BDs tongue.gif
those are usually played back on the TV on my fireTV. Plex is used only for series as they are watched using mobile devices by many in the house, or even when we're outside. Just tried a few scenarios:-( server is set at "make my CPU hurt" settings)

1 1080p transcode(with int. sub and max quality settings) and 1 720p transode(with int. sub and max quality settings)  was smooth,. do note audio was also being transcoded here.

3 720p transcode with the above settings was also smooth. 2 1080p trancodes at the same time wasnt possible without buffering on one client. This is more than enough for my current situation as most clients plys back the videos without video transcode and only audio transcode, which doesnt pose any issue up to 5 simultaneous transcodes( I have not tried more than that, as even 5 is an unlikely situation lol)

all the above transcodes are itunes videos(WEB-DLs)

did try with one remux, transformers 4 with similar settings as above, couldnt have another 720p trancode at the same time without buffering lol. But then again a movie is never played using plex on a mobile device, unless its a laptop, and that doesnt need a video transcode.

was almost gonna get a xeon while NAS shopping, glad I didnt biggrin.gif but yeah transcoding is really heavy on the CPU nod.gif

the raspi is a great client to get xbmc up and  running for someone who doesnt require much from xbmc (basically most of the casual users) but the board itself, with its appearance would most probably put off alot of people, thinking its something for advanced tinkerers sweat.gif

If only I can somehow get 23.976Hz and HD audio passthrough on my fireTV, things would be so perfect...
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i have lots of movies stored as remuxes. including animations. while most clients have the capability to playback them without transcoding, mobile and tablets will have bit of a problem handling all that bitrate. expect an arguing wife vs her children.

been reading about offloading plex transcoding to a dedicated server. suspended most of the time, and WOL-ed only when transcoding is required. then suspended again if there's no activity.
that way it is possible to have a huge powerhouse without affecting much of the tnb bill. NAS using a low power bay trail; and plex transcoder on a xeon or an i5.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 29 2014, 08:07 PM)
for others to help u, u need to provide more info....

.. what device are u using?
.. how is device connected to TV or avr or something else?
.. what version of XBMC or Kodi used, obtained from where?
.. did u change any settings or all is default after installation?
.. can't get only 1channel to work or can't get anything to work?
.. what other addons or plugins hv u tried?
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I'm using Xiao Mi's MiBox Pro version.
Resolution: 4K (3840 X 2160)
Cortex-A9,Quad 2.0GHz
Mali-450MP6
1GB DDR3 RAM

It's connected to my TV.
I'm using Kodi from the official site.
I have rooted the device and installed MX Player.
I have only installed YouTube (works) and 1channel (since the RAM so limited, I dare not install too many)
I can connect to 1channel and see the available shows but can't stream.

Thank you for your time.



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