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Mavik
post Jul 17 2006, 11:27 AM

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Hi everyone,

I know there are heated discussions when it comes to gray areas like this and how many would think that the dress code is such an important matter.

Firstly I would like to point out certain things.

ReWer, you mentioned that you are a programmer right?
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Jul 15 2006, 06:57 PM)
Furthermore, what you wear also should ease for your work, I'm a programmer I can tell you I can't do my work if I'm wearing long sleeve, well if the company don't mind hiring me sit there to show off long sleeve and pay me salary, I really wouldn't mind. Do they know Microsoft and Google head office's staffs are wearing quite casual only (T-shirt and jean), but that doesn't make them a lousy company is it? Further more, do they know this is Malaysia, not US or Europe, why they force our nation wear something that is not belong to our climate? No wonder people always look down at us, to them we are nothing much of blind slaves who even willing to wear something not suit our climate at all in order to please those foreigners. When will people start realize the most important thing we go to work is to finish our job professionally instead become an eye candy to those dog of western culture?


To be perfectly honest, you argument stands. Microsoft and Google are huge and great companies. I've seen documentaries on their campuses and offices and it looks like a student hall (their boardroom table is actually a ping pong table tongue.gif). But if you look at these two companies, what is the nature of their business? Software and internet related products. In order for their business to grow, they require great minds to work on their products thus providing them with an extremely comfortable environment for them to work in.

Now compare that to a fashion/advertising. Looking good and impressing their clients to gain deals and income is their nature of the business. You are not in that industry thus your argument can not stand. Even for consulting companies, image is everything and impressing and making a good impression on your clients is critically important as winning the contract.

If you look at Google, trying looking at them when they meet an investment company with their business plan to move forward. They dress totally different. Why? Because they want to make a good impression and give credibility to themselves when meeting a company who wants to invest in them.

Secondly, threadstarter. I totally understand from your point of view, you sat for the exams, pull up your sleeve and gave your best in it. But it is better for you to actually excuse youself first before heading into the interview, at least to get yourself ready. First impression is always critical and you shouldn't assume anything at all.

Many times I always excuse myself to comb my hair and make sure that I look presentable before going for an interview. Well that is because most of the time I had to take the LRT to KL to attend interviews thus causing me to be a little more messy thanks to the wind and hot weather.

Guys, nowadays people are looking at candidates ATTITUDE. Skills can be trained and taught but if workers have a bad ATTITUDE then they are not worth hiring. You can be the best programmer in the world but if your attitude sucks, believe you me, you won't get hired.

This post has been edited by Mavik: Jul 17 2006, 11:58 AM
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post Jul 17 2006, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(spanker @ Jul 17 2006, 11:04 AM)
Tell him/her "I would love for you to assign me 24 hour work non-stop for 2 weeks, because then I get to see if the labor law actually works".
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I think any human who goes for 14 days without sleep would eventually die. Correct me if I am wrong tongue.gif
Mavik
post Jul 17 2006, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Jul 15 2006, 07:29 PM)
Any proper trained HR also won't ask people 'r u tahan mati?'. Obviously he/she is seriously asking people work 24/7 non-stop. Because this can show their superiority. Long time ago I heard in LYN someone go interview and the interviewer keep asking, if company give you very low salary will you quit? Why would a HR interesting in this kind of stupid question? They seem forgot HR responsibility is to hire the best candidate for the post instead go around asking "r u wearing red underwear? coz our boss dun like red undies!"

These people are absolute empty in their head, they got nothing better to do so they ask all sort of weird questions that they think is 'tough' and 'challenged', they feel happy if people unable to answer their stupid questions, this can prove to their boss they are screening people with a lot challenge. Guys (or gals) when you go working you'll understand that these kind of people are everywhere.
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I do agree with you that the majority of the HR departments in this country lack the proper interviewing skills. Why do you think some companies the turnover rate is extremely high? Asking that question is just plain stupid which in my opinion reflects the interviewer.

But to be perfectly honest, most companies have HR departments that have great interviewing skills while others outsource it (good for them). Most of the time, they would actually ask managers to interview candidates and these times, the managers are not qualified at all to handle interviews thus coming up with nonsense most of the time.
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post Jul 17 2006, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(spanker @ Jul 17 2006, 11:36 AM)
Yeah, there are a few fanatic gamers who died from exhaustion after like 5 days. But my point is that he should let the employer know that he is not the average ignorant employee.
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Of course rclxms.gif

Anyway candidates can always mention that with proper rest their productivity is way higher and they can think straight. There is a medical journal out there which states that if you do work for more than 15hours, your state of mind would be close to that of a drunk tongue.gif

http://www.cfah.org/hbns/newsrelease/long9-19-00.cfm

 

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