@Boon, redtone above 70c oh
@gark, nice one on 6459. Qtr result soon, shud be nice.
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@Boon, redtone above 70c oh
@gark, nice one on 6459. Qtr result soon, shud be nice. |
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Uli hive me 110 today!!!
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thank you sifu boon alert me in redtone yesterday...
i buy all 68 and sold 705 yesterday... made intraday gain... |
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thank you sifu boon alert me in redtone yesterday...
i buy all 68 and sold 705 yesterday... made intraday gain... |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2014, 09:48 AM) Bonus issue have zero impact on existing shareholder... just like you have 2 pizza same 12" size one. If price now RM5. The day before ex div RM8. Ex div price it will fall below RM2.5. With bonus split 1:1, u will lose out right? Big boss can explain to me with figures why won't lose?One cut 4 pieces, the other cut 8 pieces. So which pizza is bigger? All the lower price = better buy is a wrong type of mentality. I keep thinking if the price don't increase drastically before bonus split. When split, price drop lower u will lose. |
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QUOTE(dewVP @ Feb 21 2014, 10:18 AM) If price now RM5. The day before ex div RM8. Ex div price it will fall below RM2.5. With bonus split 1:1, u will lose out right? Big boss can explain to me with figures why won't lose? If the day before ex is RM 8 with 1:1 bonus then each share is worth RM 4. If now is RM 5 either the company continue to progress well OR speculation is going on. I keep thinking if the price don't increase drastically before bonus split. When split, price drop lower u will lose. It does not matter, if the company is good the price will go up sooner or later, if not it will come down. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2014, 10:21 AM) If the day before ex is RM 8 with 1:1 bonus then each share is worth RM 4. If now is RM 5 either the company continue to progress well OR speculation is going on. Right. Because if the bonus issue is 1:1, the price must increase above 100% (assuming the price drop 100% ex price) and u got 100% more share. Then the effect will be 0.It does not matter, if the company is good the price will go up sooner or later, if not it will come down. But if ur share increase 20%. U lose out 80%. Better don't split the share right. No guarantee bonus issue (increase liquidity) will attract more new investors right? Any stock u come across where after bonus split it loses a lot of money for existing shareholder? |
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QUOTE(dewVP @ Feb 21 2014, 10:44 AM) Right. Because if the bonus issue is 1:1, the price must increase above 100% (assuming the price drop 100% ex price) and u got 100% more share. Then the effect will be 0. No no... you got it wrong. Bonus issue does not affect the share price. It is the investors who affect the share price. There is no precedence when announce bonus issue the share price must double.But if ur share increase 20%. U lose out 80%. Better don't split the share right. No guarantee bonus issue (increase liquidity) will attract more new investors right? Any stock u come across where after bonus split it loses a lot of money for existing shareholder? It just half the EPS and you get twice as much shares, the TOTAL value of your shares is no different from before the bonus issue. Lets say a company got 100 million shares and earn 10 million per year. So the EPS is RM 0.1/share. Current share price is RM 1, which represents PE of 10x. Lets say it announce bonus issue of 1:1 After ex bonus issue, the company now got 200 million shares, and STILL earn 10 million per year. Now the EPS is RM 0.05 a share. How much should each share worth? This post has been edited by gark: Feb 21 2014, 10:52 AM |
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