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SUSPink Spider
post Mar 12 2014, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 12 2014, 12:52 PM)
1163 looks interesting...but let all the dust settle first, not the right time yet.  laugh.gif

Downtrend now due to so-so quarter and insurer for MAS.  laugh.gif
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Unker...itu Saintax bole beli ka?

I feel...some of their biz similar to Tian Wah...no? hmm.gif
Nanti portfolio aku heavy plastic wrappers doh.gif
But growth spectacular yo...pushed by property drool.gif

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post Mar 12 2014, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 12 2014, 12:56 PM)
That company now is already transform to property player lah. For value wise it is fair. DY also not bad...  tongue.gif

It has stretch film, plastic injection and property... u think leh?  tongue.gif Plastic contribute 75% revenue, 50% profit, property 25% revenue 50% profit.

A good alternative to diabochi, but the biggest risk is the property development. The stretch film should be more or less resilient.
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http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/ptres/20420.jsp
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KENANGA Outlook
We remain positive on Scientex’s ongoing expansion plans and earnings potential within the manufacturing segment, which could accelerate the prospects of spinning off the Group’s property division.


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post Mar 12 2014, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 12 2014, 01:05 PM)
Yeah like i said.. 10% p.a. growth is reasonable, asuming plastic is 5% growth and property 20% growth.

But property counters have boom to bust cycles, so you must monitor very very carefully... now is boom, when will be bust?

Imho they do not have enough asset to spin off.. only 990 acres spread in Johor and Melaka doing most medium cost housing estate. Expected they should have 4.4 bil GDV over the next 10 years.
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Resisting urge to click the BUY button today before doing homework on its past 5-year financials icon_question.gif
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post Mar 12 2014, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 12 2014, 01:12 PM)
No need to do homework.. i can tell you last 5 years financial is very very pretty.

It was one of my chicken run in 2012..  rolleyes.gif

What you need to concern now is the property business growth and resilience going to be in the next 5-10 years... wink.gif  The stretch film business will be  more or less stable with minimal growth...
Go to website and look at the property location, feeling confident? laugh.gif
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Quite diversified, got quite a lot medium-cost ones which is a good thing IMHO. If a lot Klang Valley ones AND 7-figure ones, I'd be worried. sweat.gif

U...poison me! tongue.gif
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post Mar 12 2014, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 12 2014, 01:18 PM)
U gotta make your own decision...  tongue.gif

I am just laying down the facts...  whistling.gif
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Ok! Added bruce.gif

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post Mar 12 2014, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 12 2014, 02:56 PM)
You got 12 already... many over lapping, which one next candidate to divest?  tongue.gif
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Who got overlap blink.gif
Axis is mainly industrial/commercial, IGB is retail blink.gif
Tian Wah is concentrated on ciggy packaging, while Saintax wraps and films blink.gif
Only Holland mui and Nescafe both got do susu hmm.gif

Susu brows.gif
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post Mar 12 2014, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 12 2014, 02:59 PM)
Scientx makes auto parts and packaging... overlap with APM and tienwah.  tongue.gif
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Aiyo, Saintax do punya is carpets, interior/dashboard materials...while APM mainly suspension, air con, radiators, yes a bit of interiors, not overlap much I think hmm.gif

Wah Kor maby...stagnant growth...see next 1-2 quarters how it does

I use it mainly to ride on BAT...BAT itself is overpriced
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post Mar 12 2014, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 12 2014, 03:12 PM)
No plantations? UP, KLK or BK...  tongue.gif
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Plantation not known to be generous with divvy hmm.gif
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post Mar 12 2014, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 12 2014, 03:18 PM)
You sure?  tongue.gif

UP is paying >4 and BK & KLK is 3-4

other smaller plantations >4  whistling.gif
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Aiks blink.gif

klse.i3investor.com/ no TP/research on UP doh.gif
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post Mar 12 2014, 03:24 PM

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And I don't understand plantations biz at all...CPO...what makes them go up/down... rclxub.gif

at least packaging...consumer products...resilient stuff, everybody wraps their hotdogs

Hotdogs brows.gif
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post Mar 12 2014, 03:37 PM

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Ok, I rclxub.gif liao

I better stick to consumer and simple industrial counters sweat.gif
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post Mar 12 2014, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 12 2014, 03:49 PM)
Think of it CPO is also very de very consumer based....

For example products made from CPO...

Frying/cooking oil/fat
Shortenings
Margarine and spreads
Replacement dairy products
Replacement cocoa products
Confectionery fat
Coffee creamers
Condensed milk/creamer
Vitamins (Tocopherol)
Food emulsifier
Ice cream filler
Food anti caking agents
Pharmaceuticals
Soap & shampoo
Fabric softener
Hair Conditioner
Candle
Detergent
Explosives
Paint
Vulcanized Rubber
Food grade Lubricant
Industrial bio-diesel

Used any of the above before?  tongue.gif
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Ok...will try to shop around for a plantation kaunter that I like

Btw, why u no mention Bstead or Sime? unsure.gif

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post Mar 13 2014, 09:44 AM

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10 buckets beer belum digest lagi yawn.gif

AxisREIT flies again...after I reduced holding/took profit doh.gif

QUOTE(TakoC @ Mar 12 2014, 08:02 PM)
Ok.. Noted noted.. Value..

Self reminder cannot speak about price. Haha!

Tonight good day didn't go happy hour? tongue.gif
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See above tongue.gif

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post Mar 13 2014, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Mar 13 2014, 09:48 AM)
laugh.gif , but why you want to sell at the first place? I thought you want aim for dividend one ?

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Moving $$$ to better potential counters...foresee at current PRICE the yield is only like...5.8%. Still keeping half of my holding.
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post Mar 13 2014, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Mar 13 2014, 09:57 AM)
Last time when it is priced at 1.30... everyone was talking about yield...keep it as FD and long term.  laugh.gif

Now cheaper than IPO price, so now people aim for capital appreciation ?  rolleyes.gif
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FixedD indeed laugh.gif
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post Mar 13 2014, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Mar 13 2014, 10:04 AM)
Wah Pink , I just realized that your portfolio banyak diversified oo.
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Mana ada, Unker gark said it got many overlapping ones sad.gif
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post Mar 13 2014, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Mar 13 2014, 10:08 AM)
really is fixed deposit now haha...  tongue.gif no up no down.
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To those who bought at IPO price...it ain't fixed brows.gif

It's a scam deposit laugh.gif

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post Mar 13 2014, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Mar 13 2014, 10:12 AM)
Each stock almost have equal weight meh? Sure have few bigger holding one. nod.gif

For me macam too diversified already  hmm.gif
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Smallest about 6%, biggest about 13%

Diversified not good meh...basically I'm picking those that I think are "leader" of their sector lor... unsure.gif

I only dun touch tech and construction stocks

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post Mar 13 2014, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Mar 13 2014, 10:52 AM)
Sounds healthy to me

12 stocks enough time to follow all kah? I mean all those announcement etc...
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How often got announcements? All those changes in shareholdings, ESOS announcements (Maybank got only), no need read wan laugh.gif

I just read financial results and watch out for material litigations
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Mar 13 2014, 11:03 AM)
Wah mampus. Construction no catalyst.. OnG got catalyst..
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War and natural disaster are good catalysts for construction brows.gif

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