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post Aug 12 2014, 10:55 AM

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Hi all,

I'm new in foldie...i took whole day yesterday and today to finish reading the whole thread. I want to get myself for a start and i never ride a foldie before. I do not mean to race or run fast. maybe just to keep fit and stay healthy. So far i saw RM299 selling in hypermarket some unknown brand and chronus from living social site.

Chronus garion is it a good brand for a starter like me? price is only 3xx and very tempting. Other brand like raleigh sold at 7xx and not to mention few thousand with big name like Dahon.... rclxub.gif

Do you think for a start, i should get a cheap one to test the water...when starting pro already, then upgrade? hmm.gif

btw, is there any foldie group who is active in kota damansara? But pls not those who look down on a 3xx foldie la... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Aug 12 2014, 12:19 PM)
Hi everyone, new foldie reporting in. Wanna to say hi to everyone.

Hi suntzelee, as a new foldie rider, i recommend you get the Garion Alloy which is about RM5xx if you are looking at CronusMy shop. Or going to Ampang United Angel to look for reasonable price bike. Just my own opinion, PJ shop bike price is over my current dompet limit. Hehe

The RM299, i think u saw in Tesco? Those are steel built foldie, u will feel the different if u lift up a steel foldie and a alloy foldie. Not to mention the part may use some unknown brand or cheap part.

BTW i bought a TRS foldable form United Angel Ampang. Initially also looking for those RM299 and 399 in his shop. But after trying then i knew sometime higher price really make different. Mine is RM499. Different in RM100, but built quality, shimano gear, lighter alloy body is soemthing i willing to pay more for that.

Still those RM700 ++ and above, and those with more gear (mine only 7 speed) are more enjoyable to ride. I just need a starter bike to ride, whose know maybe i will upgrade in future if i feel 7-speed is not fun anymore.
Mine TRS is upgradable BTW. According to the shop owner i can change my gear to better one in future. like 16-speed or 24-speed. 7-speed is good for flat terrain (place like putrajaya/ taman near your house), but it is tiring when i cycle at taman botani shah alam.
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Hi Zelmel, good to know i'm not alone here. Well thanks for giving me valuable tips here. Yeah, i was contemplating between alloy and steel frame. can give me more info or link to your current bike? how heavy is TRS? The chronus garion stell is 14.45kg. If you can share some picture about your bike would be great. Hmm...499 for alloy frame is great buy.

Btw can i ask what's the different between alloy frame and aluminium frame? Thanks bro. If we stay nearby, sure i want to invite you to form a foldie group for newbies...haha, just to get more buddy to kick start my new found hobby.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 12 2014, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Aug 12 2014, 01:08 PM)
I am not sure my bike will have link or not. You can look for United Angel in FB. My foldie model is TRS TXC-9.
Steel frame = ~14-16kg
Alloy = depend it is full alloy or alloy frame but steel fork. My TRS is steel fork, about 11-12kg. Full alloy maybe lighter. Alloy = aluminium.
Derailuer = Shimano Tourney 7-Speed

My foldie is the light green one, the second one wub.gif  wub.gif
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They also have TRS-TXC-8 which is older version of TRS TXC-9 same alloy and RM399 (clearance stock, my wife bought the second last stock). This newer version had better joint, better lock and more sturdy than its older sibling.
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oops...i got myself TXC-8. No wonder so cheap. i tot i got a good price. should have waited your reply and act. doh.gif Btw bro, is TXC-8 got many different compare with TXC-9? Is there mud guard and wrench provided when u first bought the foldie?

I called them but they said TXC-9 no more stock liao... cry.gif they said factory no more produce... rclxub.gif

omg...i discovered a 5cm long dent on my front wheel rim...got to go back again tomolo....sigh sad.gif

Tot to start my hobby this evening, seem got to cancel and return the bike to them...actually i requested them to give me a new set from the box, but they say need to fix and they give only ready set...is that true also? hmm.gif
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post Aug 12 2014, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Aug 12 2014, 04:44 PM)
buy one tht u can afford.

tht is not too lousy, so u don't waste money.

if u buy cheapest like rm 300, after awhile u wana buy a better one,

the rm300 gone, sell used oso no wan wan, n sell as scrap metal?

so get one tht is ok ok n can use for a few years.. to get back ur money's worth,

if u visit the gan fler shop in kajang etc, as suggested u can see a lot of budget bike

till u dono which one to choose...  biggrin.gif
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thanks for the head up. but i ended with TRS TXC-8. U think is a decent bike?

QUOTE(blur_blue @ Aug 12 2014, 04:44 PM)
I bought my first foldie a couple of weeks back. Budget was originally set at RM850 and below and somehow ended up with a Dahon that's on promo.

Anyhow I stay around BU, maybe we can bike around sometime once you have gotten ur bike?  biggrin.gif
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sure, looking forward too...bought one today but got many issues after sale. Need to fix it before hitting the road...Wow, Dahon..is it PU8? how much wor?
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post Aug 12 2014, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Aug 12 2014, 04:44 PM)

if u visit the gan fler shop in kajang etc, as suggested u can see a lot of budget bike

till u dono which one to choose...  biggrin.gif
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where is this gan fler shop? got their fb or shop website...tomorrow i might drop by to visit... smile.gif
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post Aug 12 2014, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Aug 12 2014, 06:12 PM)
google "United Angel bicycle shop" .. the FB page will pop up first..
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oo...united angel sdn bhd is it. That was where i got my TXC-8 today... tongue.gif got to return to them tomolo as i found 5cm dent on the front wheel... sad.gif
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post Aug 12 2014, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Aug 12 2014, 10:12 PM)


price of this bike shall not exceed RM 500.. got ppl sell 680, 399 etc, so shop properly...

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Bro this model is 22" wheel size which they sold it for rm450 & with disc brake. U think is somehow better than TXC-8 with normal brake & 20" wheel? hmm.gif
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Aug 12 2014, 10:56 PM)
i din say better...  biggrin.gif

but for those wana get budget bike...
can consider this wan...  biggrin.gif if can get for 399 not bad mar... biggrin.gif

406 wheel is good for those wana try different saiz tyre,,,
451 tyre limited... to narrow type...
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Sorry dunno how to differentiate size. 406 is 20" n 451 is 22". Actually, bigger size wheel got any benefit? I saw the tyre so slim, can they run on FRIM park?

QUOTE(Zelmel @ Aug 12 2014, 11:02 PM)
Sorry didn't reply your message early. Was busy in the afternoon.

Wah you make decision so fast and bought already.  rclxms.gif
My wife bought a TRS-TXC-8, so far so good, I tot TXC-9 is latest one? Maybe it going to release TXC-10?  hmm.gif
Different between TXC8 and TXC9 is the joint.
I will show u later. Need to take photo.
The rest is the same. Spec, frame design, height, weight etc
You need to tighten the joint a bit manually. If not it will feel loose.

Yes, regarding the dent, u should go back and ask for replace. Should be okay. So far me and my friend had no issue with the boss. Try not to deal with the younger Chinese guy, he can't make much decision. The older boss or the Cantonese speaking malay guy (I think he is malay) can make decision better. I think u should ask for new one from the box. Just my opinion.

I didn't get any free gift or mud guard etc.  biggrin.gif

I am from PJ btw thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Aug 12 2014, 11:18 PM)
I thought this one is 20" also, it is 22"?
This one and TXC8 same joint, brake, weight and height. Only the body frame different. But slightly higher price due to disc break. V break vs disc break... I can't differentiate any different la. Not that pro yet.
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I saw H2D posted the 22" TRS with disc brake. Is 22", any better than 20"?. I might want to change model or you think I should stay with TCX-8? They said TCX-9 no stock, something like factory no more production.... rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Aug 12 2014, 11:37 PM)
I think I understand why you come out with star on your head. Yup there really are many choices in that shop.

If it is really 22" then for me it sound good. Why? How I explain this, a 22" tyre when u paddle one cycle it will spin more distance than 20". So in term of speed imagine you racing with your friend ur friend need to cycle more to get same distance. Whether it is consider benefit. Depend on people. 20" vs 22" no sure how much the different. And need to ask whether the tyre is easily to get or not.

I never go to FRIM before. But from most of the review I read on internet. Folding bike is not as tough as mountain bike. So rough terrain and stony trail better avoid because all folding bike tyre are slim. It is like the road bike. Very weak on hard rough terrain.
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May I know when u bought your T9? Other than better joints, does T9 lighter, comfortable, easy to handle than T8. Which one you prefer?. I'm really new on foldie. I just know when it is fold, u can't push and roll it on the floor. Need to lift the foldie in order to transport it. Well they claimed T8 is less 11kg but why I feel so heavy when lifting it? Really 11kg sure? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(H2D @ Aug 12 2014, 11:44 PM)
451 tyre i haven't seen bigger type, even at taobao...

u can use wide tyre up to 2.0 for foldies, like big apple, dth etc and go on rough gravel road with less pressure..

members here have done it already, on ugo etc..
they've been to frim..

got pic oso from earlier post... biggrin.gif
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Oh by stock, Hugo got fatter tyre like MTB...also more solid. Wish to buy it but out of my budget. The price also not stable, I saw people posting 699. Then later when ask, say that was old stock, new stock is 750. I like Hugo v brake...feel very different when press... wub.gif
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post Aug 13 2014, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Aug 12 2014, 11:54 PM)
I bought my foldie two days before Raya. Hehe.
Since I got both TXC8 for my wife and TXC9 for my self.
So here my unprofessional comparison. Oh ya my friend also bought a TXC8 at same time.

1. TXC9 come with new saddle which is thicker and more spongy. Which I think it is nicer to ride. My wife will buy new saddle as the saddle of TXC8 is harder. She felt buttock pain.

2. TXC8 joint on day 1 it felt loose. After watching YouTube and reading internet I manage to learn how to tighten the joint properly. Both my wife and my friend happy after the joint is tighten. Before this it feel bergoyang-goyang.

3. I always carry one hand TxC8 and one hand TXC9. You know la need to carry for wife. Hehe. I feel both same weight. Whether it is really 11kg. I never go ms weight it yet.

4. Any foldie after folded, you only can carry it. (I might be wrong, maybe got other brand can move after fold)

5. Both TXC8 and TXC9 same dimension after folded. Mechanism of folding is same for both for the body one. Joint for folding for handle as you see in picture i showed you before. I feel TXC9 easier to fold. But it really much different.
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Bro, when u say joint loose is which part? The seat, the fold frame or the handle when folding?

QUOTE(H2D @ Aug 13 2014, 12:04 AM)
these foto of adrian's ugo... enjoying 'not tht smooth' road...  biggrin.gif

posted earlier in V2

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bro Yun dopplerganger... heavy but no prob...  biggrin.gif

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Omg, one big one small tyre...must need dollars to mod that....great to know....Hugo after fold, that bad meh? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Aug 13 2014, 12:03 AM)
You means The expensive B. Sorry sorry. I really dunno it still can move. I not dare to try that. Totally hard to reach. The price is 😓😓😓
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Oh yea, u mention u from pj too. Which part? Can I join u to ride together? Pls, I'm a slow rider and new in foldie. Just wanna start a hobby & into a club one day where we can make a group of passion people when pro later. For a start, just play play & get used to foldie. 2 days read the forum & enough to get me adrenaline rush....haha tongue.gif

Oh yea, I change the handle rubber as I don't like the stock. The stock one feels like kasar...what about u?

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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Aug 13 2014, 12:25 AM)
The joint in the picture I post just now. Where u fold the handle down. It was loose initially.

I don't said the UGO fold very bad. Just don't like the way it fold. You notice there is a stand/feet that hold our TRS so that the front crank and the bottom of bike didn't touch the ground. UGO don't have it.
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Hmm, when u release the lock, the handle will go down & it suppose to be loose, right? Or u mean after unfold the handle, u feel loose instead?...haha, better we sit down & share all these...so hard to describe in words here....after I pick up my new T8, will sure join u. Only if u welcome newbies.... tongue.gif
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just came back from gan fler...managed to changed a new TRS...it is 20-25 model as posted by H2D couple pages back... tongue.gif

The malay cantonese spoken guy really good service. Change my TXC-8 i bought yesterday for me to this model. It was new opened from box and assemble within 15mins...

i notice the tyre is bigger but still 20". According to him, is 138 model whereas TXC-8 tyre is 175. A very big different is the typre pattern. 20-25 seem got flower whereas TXC-8 looks botak...i think it should give me better grip on the ground. I have chosen a orange black color as i dont like the green or red... smile.gif

Hi H2D, i notice the seat still very hard to lower up or down...is it because just open new from the box? anyway can loosen it? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(H2D @ Aug 13 2014, 02:51 PM)
u look at the tyre sidewall... if got 451 no, then it is 22 inch, but ppl don call it 22in, ppl call it 451 or 451 20in liddat  doh.gif

the seat post ar...

it is hard to lower lor... i already mentioned earlier, some budget bike is like this... so have to choose (model) well...

this one kenot do much, they already put the stand underneath the BB, cos they know it is hard to lower..

hopefully u r not tall guy, or else ur bike will fold with the seat post very high...  laugh.gif
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But how come the cheaper TXC-8 can lower or up easily without much effort? rclxub.gif

QUOTE(Zelmel @ Aug 13 2014, 03:05 PM)
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Glad that you able to change to newer bike. Like I said I like the guy as he can make decision maybe he is boss also. As for the seat. Hopefully it will get loosen over time.
Did you buy any accesories?
So your bike have bigger tyre. I dunno that. Somehow he didn't tell me that. With tyre that have pattern, you have better grip.
Btw bro, where you from?
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Not yet bro. I plan to get front light & rear blinking light for night ride. What accessories u recommend? I'm from Kota damansara,. Looking for other newbie like me to bike together.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Aug 13 2014, 07:55 PM)
So far i just bought myself rear blinking light, still looking for my big head helmet.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
Still KIV for bottle holder and front light. Rear light just bought from daiso RM5,  icon_rolleyes.gif
Front light in Daiso look ugly, so didnt buy. Buy a loceng for my wife bike too.  tongue.gif

I think first page of this thread also have post for the accessories.
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Oh yea, what a coincidence...I went to mr.diy today, saw some led light. Come with a pair. Too bad is white light only. Looking for red light blinking...hehe biggrin.gif

Yes, I'm too think helmet is vital to get. Shop giant today, found adult helmet 3x.xx . Dunno can pakai or not...don like the string, very mediocre made.... doh.gif

Bro, my TRS after fold, not so stable... The stand/feet only senget one side when support the folded wheel. Ask the Malay guy, he said this model liddat one because of larger tyre.... rclxub.gif

So far 2 issues I faced thus far this model, the feet & the saddle adjust very tight. Seem like 3rd visit back is inevitable..... doh.gif

Actually, though I like the service but traveling there is very far....my initial tot buying a bike is one time off but it seem I was wrong. For 1st time buyer, location also imperative to consider as u might go back like me when got issues....sigh sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Aug 13 2014, 10:38 PM)
I have no choice also, no place in PJ sell those TRS or Trinx
They all sell XDS, Java, Dahon, Tern and Brompton.
Other place I heard sell TRS is Rawang and Dengkil. Also far.
I dunno why yours got so many problem.
Maybe that why a lot PJ people here buy branded one, maybe less problem. Haha
Saddle too tight I think acceptable kot, better than too loose later it's slide down when it suppose not to slide. And for the feet, I don't really mind because I unfold them at home only fold it to put in my car bonnet.

You travel on weekday to Kajang. No jam meh?
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quite jam too...the travelling is killing me though... sad.gif

QUOTE(H2D @ Aug 13 2014, 10:51 PM)
tht seat post is not an issue la...
it is liddat cos they wana save cost...

if u bring back complain, i'm sure d fler will put oil.. not hi-tech oil u know
those like enjin oil he will squirt a lot on the seat post
then do the zig zag pull up n down...
the oil will flood the seat tube inside n make a mess,
u will hv hard time cleaning it , etime u touch there will have oil stain...  biggrin.gif

so u think first if he wana put oil....

the stand as long as it is not bengkok , should be able to stand properly, u need to fold it properly...
n tie with velcro the two sides, so it is tight.

helmet d shop there got cheap ones mar, no more stock meh?

mr diy depends on outlet, i think i saw got some ok ok lights...
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but i still cant figure out why the 1st bike i bought TXC-8, the saddle is easily adjustable...i really need an easy adjustable saddle as it can be driven by different people in my family....

bro, other than putting oil, any other good suggestion or should i ask them to replace me the saddle rod? will it help?

about the stand...i dont mean the side stand. is the centre piece triangle at the bottom of the frame. use to make the foldie stand on ground without the 52T or chain hitting the floor after fold. When i was using TXC-8, the triangle metal can stand straight without senget. but in my 20-25, the triangle thing have to be senget a bit regardless how i fold it...i think no thanks to the 451 tyre... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(H2D @ Aug 13 2014, 11:50 PM)
txc-8, i think the seat post size is bigger... and the frame material a bit different..

mebe u wana change back to tht model...

even u change the post oso most likely won't help,

cos the seat tube opening is really stiff.
mebe u r right bout the 451 causing the bike kenot stand well...

but tht day i got fold the bike at the shop too.. and it seems ok... can't remember...
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ah...change back???... rclxub.gif never think of so many issues owning a bike...huhu sad.gif seriously, u think i should change back to txc-8? the black color i bought yesterday left one unit only. there''s blue but i dont like. perhaps get back the old unit and just replace the new dented rim...

what say u bro?...really dilemma now.. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Aug 14 2014, 06:54 AM)
Change back ha? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
I am not really sure. Seat post thing depend on you lo. Another friend brought a Nakxus foldie which is RM750 also very tight, and now the seat post already bercalar calar (it coated black with silver colour inside) because she always need to lower and raise the seat post to fix in her myvi. but she said its okay, bicycle meant to be calar not meant to be well kept. so it really depend on people. mine although is easily release and fall down once i release also bercalar calar already because it is metal and metal contact. so sooner or later sure bercalar one.

I knew that triangle stand below the crank. i really not sure about your model my wife TXC8 can stand well like u said.
Again it is just to protect your crank from touching the ground. most of the time the bike should be unfold.  nod.gif

One thing i can suggest is that, whether you can change the seat post on TXC8 to your current bike and see how it is. maybe that TXC8 seat more loosely design. Just my opinion.

I prefer not to confuse you more. ride your bike. as long as its function as bike to ride then enjoy it. Those minor minor thing i think dont really interfere with the function. <-- maybe i just too optimistic or easily sastified.  tongue.gif 
Or think like me, if i really become more and more addicted. I wont buy new one, but i will mod it  cool2.gif
I will keep some money maybe mod it over the year.  biggrin.gif
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getting more confuse now... rclxub.gif bro, ask you TCX-8 the tyre seem very botak and slim. But is it safe to cycle on the road? will it very slippery?

I might take H2D advice to take back the black TCX-8 and change the dented rim...after all, 20-25 seem bulky after fold. I'm staying in a condo, so space is limited. After ride i will always fold it and store at some small space. Hope i can get TCX-9 like you but again the bro said factory also out of stock.... sad.gif


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may i know where to get mileage reading for foldie? can recommend a place with good price? Thanks.

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