bro.. these mat salleh oso can handle mar...

no takut wan....

oso the smaller the rim, the shorter the spoke... the stronger it is...

so if 700c wheel can have less spoke,... small wheel lagi boleh....

This post has been edited by H2D: Sep 17 2014, 10:34 PM

no way....

so u managed to fold the handle post inside??

post some pics to study.. when u r fee....

i din study both in detail, maybe you should. i believe u will notice the difference.

parts wise i think the difference is not tht much..

most importantly for me is it can fold well..

u should test the seat post, some can't slide down well, even u have release the QR.
if u do it on a dahon, u will understand wht i mean.

same for the handle post as well..

and when it folds it can stand on flat ground.

not sure if this is the latest java fit, but the pics show tht it can fold up nicely? now...

if the xds can do this then .....





this pix shows the xds have a stand below the BB...



u check whether it still has now.

normally bike with a stand under BB, the seat post is tough to lower..

this u need to go find out..

also is the xds fork really alu or steel?
magnet can tell...

This post has been edited by H2D: Sep 17 2014, 11:41 PM

welcome

yes... need to do home work...


the seat post for some they don't mind if it is tough to lower..

but if u share ur bike with other family members often
or u need to lower it down to make it compact..
then it is troublesome....

Bro, if u r in klang valley, jz go to pedalspot to check out d java .

U r goin to pay n use the bike, others opinion is secondary.

There r plenty of other bikes to choose frm.

Got money?jz get java , can live wit the seat post wana save get xds.

For me I donlike 451 wheels , so both out...

Foldie tht can stand proper don't nid the stand under the bb.
If u look at any dahon n tern u noe...

Get up n go visit bike shops... :D

Trinx some xds etc r fine, some budget brands r not.

If u have read the earlier post by member regarding the trs.

This post has been edited by H2D: Sep 18 2014, 11:02 AM

If u r lucky, shipping cost less than rm150 by air.

Yea tht is wht I'm talkin about.

Dahon don't need to rest on d crank, jz lower the post.

For temp folding the stand might b usefull like wht uve said cos can use post to push n stil rest.

But if the post is really hard to push down , eg some bike like speedgear etc then it is troublesome.

Not sure, u buy direct or tru agent?

If agent very likely won't kena.

If direct n they use ems, higher chance will kena when they see big box.

for special cases like wheelset, buy direct is cheaper.. it seems...

where there is a huge difference between actual weight and vol weight.
ie actual weight way lower than vol weight.


normal stuff... using agent is cheaper...less than rm 10/kg..

This post has been edited by H2D: Sep 18 2014, 02:45 PM

406 wheelset diameter is bout 406mm, same for 451mm. Hub minus skewers either 130 135 100 74 mm. Add paddings..
N depend on how seller pack...

He pack wit hub overlap n into the spoke, wit min padding can get tht small size.

Somemore wit so few spoke even easier to pack overlap.
Spoke won't block the hub at all it seems...

This post has been edited by H2D: Sep 18 2014, 05:37 PM

U forgot to say I'm one of them.... :D

Andrews target is only genting sempah!

This post has been edited by H2D: Sep 22 2014, 08:40 AM

Ugo susah to put fd, besi blocking tht is y andrew wana try 34t.

Taiwan branded foldie always expensive.
Tis chiron dono wht price in taiwan, later check.

Tht is where andrew has been cycling la dey :D
P18 back is 32t la, I'm not sure his , cos mine 2011 is....

This post has been edited by H2D: Sep 22 2014, 11:13 AM