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northasian
post Jul 14 2006, 12:54 PM

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Reporting in too~ (^0^)/

QUOTE(miyoko @ Jul 14 2006, 09:42 AM)
northasian,
actually, the value of the birthday present is not important. what is more valuable and important is your heart and thoughts. anyway, wish you happy birthday oh... (i dunno when's your birthday, so wish you in advance lah...) hehehe...
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Hi miyoko,

Thanks for your greetings!! My birthday is not so soon la, I am a Leo girl, so it's gonna be end of July wink.gif

Yes I know the heart is more important, so everytime I wanna find something that he really needs or likes... Finally I found the thing in my mind yesterday, lucky~~~ ^.^

QUOTE(skysherly @ Jul 14 2006, 09:53 AM)
reporting in too...
im back from cameron and was very tiring but nice trip!
later will post up some pix to share wif u all!
btw...im mc today  doh.gif
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Hi sherly,

I'll be going to Cameron Highlands on 24/7 for 3D2N trip. How was your trip? Nice place to visit? Is it your first time visiting CH?
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post Jul 15 2006, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(skysherly @ Jul 14 2006, 08:35 PM)
thats not my 1st trip to CH,i went there wif my family b4 and previously his dad brought me there too...quite ok the trip,was a bit tiring cos friday tat day both of us were rushing bak to ipoh then at tat nite could not get a nice sleep cos i had some work havent finish yet then early in the morning woke up to finish up dy and went to morning market wif his mum...then after tat when reach there busy prepare the steamboat wif his ah yi...quite fun that time...but too bad cos i had bad gastric prob ended up i couldnt eat much...but the next day while we on the way down to ipoh of cos we went to grab some cheap veges and flowers..but those flowers aint that cheap and nice also...just tat stall we bought from lar...then after dinner at ipoh onli came back to kl which around midnite dy...then the next morning sick cos at CH tat time was cold (even though for me not very cold)but then when reach ipoh tat time too hot dy...1 cold 1 hot ended up all not feeling well a bit ...  doh.gif  doh.gif
now i uploading some pix...later show u all...of cos at my friendster  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Thanks for your info~ So you just stay there for 1 nite only? Visited any impressed place in CH?
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post Jul 15 2006, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(skysherly @ Jul 15 2006, 08:35 PM)
CH not much place to visit though...well...just went to some places take some photos and i cant miss my strawberry farm!!! tongue.gif ya,we just stay 1 nite mayb we been there b4 so we would feel bored if stay 2nites...cos 1 day u can walk around the whole cameron dy... depends on how u walk around lar tongue.gif tongue.gif
btw, i would advice u try not to buy the flowers from those flowers stall near dont know wat equatorial hotel ....those flowers aint fresh and nice and expensive though...if u wan when u on the way up to CH tat time...b4 the equatorial hotel u would c many stores there selling flowers and foods and veges...there r much better...after tat the strawberry farms if u never try to pick ur own strawberry u can try it but for us its quite expensive...cos i dont know how to choose but i onli know how to eat tongue.gif
btw,try those fried mushroom also...quite nice o...and also there r some foods like fried beans,some corns which got 2 colours 1 also quite nice but a bit expensive lar...  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
CH there so cold is nice to eat steamboat there ... even though will b expensive a bit if u eat at those restaurant but cos just 2 of u will b nice neh tongue.gif
er....i forgot liao wat to say...well...i onli good in flowers and foods....other like those location name or watever name u should ask my lougong cos i cant remember at all tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Sherly,

Thank you very much for your information and advices, it's very kind of you~~ notworthy.gif

I think we will have steamboat and definitely will visit the strawberry farm! I know that 2 colours corn, is it with white and yellow in 1 corn? That's call "Super Sweet Corn"... In HK, markets use to sell this kind of corn instead of normal corn. So if expensive then I won't eat there lu~~ ;p Mushroom!!! Lovely! I love mushroom!!! ;D~ Are the flowers there expensive? If not very then I will ask my Honey to buy me some, heheeeeee.... Stalls near Equatorial Hotel of coz more expensive la 'cuz Equatorial Hotel is kinda 5 stars, most foreign tourists stay there ma...

Really looking forward to the CH trip~ Though it's not a very far away trip, I think I will love the cool weather there. To chill out! It's hot like hell in HK this summer!!! >_<~

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post Jul 18 2006, 01:23 AM

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Hi all,

I'll be flying to meet my bf tomorrow lu, and will stay there for about 2 weeks so cannot post la I think... See you all again after I come back~! wave.gif

jdreamer,

Enjoy the time with your gf later~ Treasure every second you're with her, ok? I will go see The Lakehouse with my bf too, it will be shown from 20July, remember to get the ticket earlier and choose the best seats, ok?
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post Aug 1 2006, 01:26 PM

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Hey guys, I'm back!!! How are you all lately?

Cameron's trip was nice, my bf and I both love the weather and environment there!! We've been to BOH Tea Plantation, a little temple beside Sam Poh Temple to meet the famous monk, The Smokehouse to have English Afternoon Tea, Rose Centre, Vegetable Market near Brinchang to buy loads of veggie back home, and also the Moonlight Bungalow (where the Thai Silk King - Jim Thompson disappeared, but I wasn't allowed to take photo!!) Had lots of fun during the trip~ Nice hotel & nice steamboat!!! thumbup.gif Will visit there again for sure, and will try jungle trekking next time!


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post Aug 2 2006, 01:29 PM

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I think the one who understands the guy most is your friend herself. There can be lots of reason for someone to forget sending b-day message to the beloved. Whether his explanation is acceptable or not, it depends on how well your friend understands and trusts her bf in OZ la...

Say, I know my bf is a very forgetful and hardworking guy at the same time a very trustworthy, single-hearted guy, then I will accept his reason of forgetting to send msg becoz of someone's interruption or too busy at schoolwork.

So your friend should have the answer in her heart, unless she doesn't know her bf well or being too suspicious and sensitive.
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post Aug 24 2006, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(jdreamer @ Aug 23 2006, 02:29 PM)
May I know what do u guys normally do to.. hmm, boost the relationship when its getting quite quiet for a while ?
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Hey long time no post ^0^)/

Hm.. a little romantic surprise will do, I think~ icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 24 2006, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(jdreamer @ Aug 24 2006, 12:20 AM)
For example.. ? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(suiteng @ Aug 24 2006, 09:07 AM)
Order her a bouquet of flower from bloomings.com?
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This is one of the example~ tongue.gif

QUOTE(jdreamer @ Aug 24 2006, 05:41 PM)
Birthday, anniversary... all in next year liao. Maybe mooncake festival ? hahahahahx...
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Mooncake can only show you are thinking of her all the time, but not romantic enough... Actually no need to wait until any special occasion to give surprise (if surprise is for special occasion then it's not surprise enough la... as girls usually expect a surprise on special occasion) If you think flower is out of your budget or she doesn't like flower at all, then just send her a little gift la~ Anything you think she may like, and something you've never given her as gift before. Some ideas like bed cover/pillow cover, sweet cute photo frame with you two's pic on it, mug, keychain, fashion jewellery, cute pajamas, mobile strap, cute bath towel...etc. All those thing she can use in daily life, let her think of you when she use your gift~ wink.gif
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post Aug 24 2006, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(jdreamer @ Aug 24 2006, 09:25 PM)
Yea, hehe..  biggrin.gif
Yea, true. I actually dont know she liks flowers or not. It will be my first time buying roses for him. I'll think about it.  smile.gif
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post Sep 22 2006, 02:07 AM

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Hi all, been a while haven't posted here....

Jdreamer, sorry to hear about your breakup.... I feel sad too becoz when I was reading miyoko and your posts, I thought of the breakup with my ex.... The saddest experiance in my life, the darkest days in my life... Fortunately it took me only half year to recover, just like miyoko did. You have to be strong, ok? Nothing much I can say 'cuz most of them have given advices that I could think of... All the best to you.

Miyoko, glad to hear that finally you're back to normal with your honey. My bf also gets extremely busy and moody after running own business. Though he didn't neglect me nor say anything to hurt me, the "quality" of our love is actually diminishing.

These days I am kinda emotional becoz of a problem... Here I've a question to ask : If the 人生觀/價值觀 (sorry don't know how to say in English) of the couple is different, is it hard for the couple to continue their relationship?

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post Sep 22 2006, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Sep 22 2006, 02:19 AM)
Hello everyone..
Northasian,i cant read chinese,can you put that in cantonese ar?Maybe i can help?
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Hi max,

oops sorry... should be "ga jik goon" (view towards value) or "yan sang goon" (view towards life)

The problem now is we hold different view towards value and life.

1/Not wanna move to HK (I'm from HK) - alright, I'm willing to move there provided he is able to feed the whole family if I can't find any company to hire me. Actually not prefer to move there 'cuz the security is too bad there.

2/Not prefer to work!!! - this's the main problem. After he's started own business he's addicted to be the boss. BUT his business hasn't been good enough to sustain a family. He asked me to give him to try until end of this year. After that he MIGHT want to come to HK but would prefer to run business again. You know, I just can't stand to have a life partner who can't give me security feeling financially! I don't mean he has to feed me or I want to be a "siu nai nai" after married, but I really need a reliable income for the family to use loh, not myself.

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post Sep 22 2006, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(jdreamer @ Sep 22 2006, 07:41 AM)
Thanks..

But sorry that I cant give much advice to u about ur problem. I failed my relationship so Im not qualified to.
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Please don't say so la... anyway thanks for reading my posts....

QUOTE(miyoko @ Sep 22 2006, 09:54 AM)
thanks a lot for your wish. me and my dear didnt only back to normal. actually, i feel both of us have moved to another level in our relationship. previously there's some kind of barrier when we are to talk of certain things but now, it's no longer there. we are more close to each others and i strongly believe there's a future for both of us. currently, we are working together to furnish his house (our house) wub.gif
In my opinion, everyone have a different sets of "ga jik goon" or "yan sang goon". this is definitely unavoidable. me and my dear also different. i guess, in this kind of situation, RESPECT and COMPROMISE is EXTREMELY important. well, i hope that the things that i will say will not offend you. if i ever do, let me apologize first.

i somehow feel you ought to respect your bf's choice. dont put your thought or opinion is more previledge than his thought or opinion. both's opinion should be at the same level. there's no superiority in relationship. try not to put yourself as the superior here. try to put yourself in his position and dont think so negatively. he must have his own reason to wanting to have his own business. try to respect it, ok? as to why i say not to put yourself in the superior, is because when you put yourself in superior, you will tend to think that only your idea works while his idea is not as good as yours. yes, i understand that you are from Hong Kong and you would know the culture there more than him and you believe that working for others is a better start than to straight away start his own business (if he is to go to Hong Kong). However, there are cases where a foreigner is success starting business in a foreign country. have some faith and confident in him. try not to worry about it too much and create tense between both of you.

yes, i do know that you would want him to be financially viable to finance your family (i mean the family that both of you will build together). but you gotta understand that the family belongs to both of you. so both of you gotta work together to finance it and to make it a happy family. yes, the responsibility lies higher and heavier on the man's shoulder, but the woman behind him acts to support him in case if the burden is too heavy.

try to understand the reason to why he wants to start his business. frankly speaking, having own business is indeed a better way to earn money. and frankly speaking, it doesnt only take 1 year for a new starting company to earn money. it will take at least 1.5 or 2 years to break even and start to earn money. so i believe, time and support is what he needs now.

take myself as an example. i'm not the type of person who always like to take risk. so when my dear tell me he's starting business, i'm kind of worried. moreover, his ex-company (that time his company) have just promoted him and there's salary increment and there's also some counter offer when he resign. i thought that it would be safer to work for others because if lost money also, still the money is the other company's money. so, i kind of not that supportive. but when he told me that the reason why he wanna start his business is because he wanna have his own career and to earn more money for his future family (me and our family), i decided to fully support him. because if i love him, i have to love all of him. we'll be there for each others to support each others through ups and down.

then, now, he has got really little time for me. i was sad and kind of angry about it and we got some argument and cold war for 1 day (one day only, hehehe... cos i couldnt stand pretending to be angry but actually care about him - such a torture for me) then eventually after i think about it, i come to understand that no matter how i angry or cold war or scold him, he couldnt do anything about his time because he just couldnt fork out the time. and when i get angry about it, it only made both of us unhappy, so, eventually, i learn to accept it and deep down inside me, i know that he will definitely spend time to accompany me if he's available. and that's just what he do. so happy about it. he always try to arrange his time to be there for me when i need him wub.gif

anyway, enough about my part. northasian, maybe you ought to talk it with him. ask him the reason why he want his own business. dont jump into conclusion that he want his own business just because he wanna be boss and dont wanna work under people. remember one thing, even if he have his own business, he still work under other people, and that other people is his CUSTOMERS. well, i guess i wrote too long. hope that it's of some help. all the best to you, yeah.
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QUOTE(miyoko @ Sep 22 2006, 02:59 PM)
yeah, northasian, try not to push too much about getting married and having family and things like that. as you said, currently, his business is not so well. i would advice you to be supportive, and try not to over pressure him with family and marriage or migration kind of thingy. maybe talk nicely with him and discuss for a solution agreeable to both of you. all the best, yeah.
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Miyoko,

Thanks for your advices and suggestions....

I just feel like losing sense of security and stability after he started doing business, and somemore I am running out of my time. You know girl's time is precious, this is why I become kinda pushy and demanding. I didn't mean to be superior over him on making the decision of where is the best place to live, and yea, I know I am wrong for not respecting his own wish. When I have to respect his wish, should he also respect my wish? We're now talking on the email about this problem, and seems both of us standing firm on our point. Now he said he WILL NEVER come to HK and wanna concentrate on his business... so what could I do now? Give him time to succeed and wait? or just let go the relationship? For sure I am "ng seh dak" to let go it...... almost 2.5 years together...

Wanna find a place to hide and cry as hard as I want....... cry.gif cry.gif

QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Sep 22 2006, 02:50 PM)
Wahlao eh miyoko,what a long post..haha..anyway,northasian,i think you should give ur partner some time before deciding..I mean,if you keep on pushing him,he will feel stressed and difficult..Maybe talk to him about this and make plans with him..
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Thanks max, I am talking to him on email now.... still no outcome...



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post Sep 22 2006, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(miyoko @ Sep 22 2006, 05:48 PM)
you should give without expecting anything in return. meaning, you respect his decision but at the same time, ask him what's his plan if he dont wanna go to HK. anyway, how old are you? i always believe, dont get married because we are getting older. but get married because we are committed and ready to commit more. hey, dont cry... talk things nicely with him. say all your difficulties.
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He has told me his plan, which is stay in Malaysia and focus on developing his own business. I am going to be the end of a girl's golden era next year la. I understand what you meant about marriage.... Just afraid we won't have a chance to get married now........ sigh... I've told him my difficulties, which is I need sense of security and stability, both financially and in terms of living environment... Originally I was prepared to sacrifice, but of coz I don't prefer to move to a place where I'm not familiar, not so convenient, not so safe, not so fair for Chinese, and no friends and relatives of mine at all.... I always think if I happen to move there in the future, and at the end I was killed in any accident there, he will regret for the rest of his life. I'm really quite afraid of living in there, you know? This is my difficulty, and I've told him ages ago.... Should he also think by putting himself in my situation?
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post Sep 23 2006, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(7chai @ Sep 22 2006, 06:12 PM)
其实每个人的人生观与价值观是不可能同等的.但人与人之间能够在一起,除了是缘分也要讲下默契.一对情侣当在一起的时候,注重的是感觉因为爱情是要两人去经营的.并非单方面唱独角戏.

所以,我的结论是人生观与价值观并非绊脚石.但是失去感觉又或者没办法达成共识才是爱情最大的障碍.
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我就是最害怕這樣不能夠 compromise...

QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Sep 22 2006, 11:45 PM)
Do not worry about those trivial matters..It'll only make your relationship worse and you'd seem like a very desparate person..Everybody grows old with time and everyone knows that.Relax awhile and call him if can.It'll be much better.And i personally feel that you need not give up this relationship as most guys are very stuck onto their careers.I understand how you feel about time but trust me,a relationship needs time for its own also so the best way is to talk to him..Avoid emails or sms-es because this discussion is a critical one.Wish you all the best.
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I called him finally... in this morning.. actually I sms him first, I said I am very sun fu and I know I am wrong... please don't leave me alone... After that he called me at once la, we both cried, he asked me don't cry, it's alright now, don't cry.... So now basically we are back to normal, but still need to talk further about the problem later...

Anyway thanks very much for you all support and advice~

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