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 ...::: Long Distance Relationship Version 2:::...., The Fellowship of LDR

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post Sep 22 2006, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(miyoko @ Sep 22 2006, 11:59 AM)
yes, a little is good, but when it's getting bigger, that is where the trouble and problem comes. all the best yeah.
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thanx!!
ill ask her tonite maybe....

the saddest thing for her is...when i call her on saturday nites and she is all alone...
her housemates are all out with their bfs...and she has no mood to go out...
wish i can do something....
all i can do is? call her...aiyoh... cry.gif
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post Sep 22 2006, 11:10 AM

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quicksilver, you dont have to thank us, we are trying to help each other here. as for you situation, as long as you have done your best and not to worry too much. she is insecure because you dont spend enough time with her (as in online)? i got a feeling she's the sticky type of patners, need your maximum attention and care. maybe she's still young, hence will depend a lot on you. are you good in writing? perhaps you can cheer her up with some poem and fiction about you too, not sure will it works but do try smile.gif
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post Sep 22 2006, 11:25 AM

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Maybe try something like post something to her. Buy her some stuffs in Japan and post to her.
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post Sep 22 2006, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(miyoko @ Sep 22 2006, 09:54 AM)

ONE, and i mean, ONE stalk of flower will do. maybe try giving a pink rose, or whatever flower with meaning of good day, or you are beautiful, but try not to give red rose, just yet. all the very best to you.
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flower,i dun feel like buying flower,others recomendation......... laugh.gif
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post Sep 22 2006, 02:50 PM

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Wahlao eh miyoko,what a long post..haha..anyway,northasian,i think you should give ur partner some time before deciding..I mean,if you keep on pushing him,he will feel stressed and difficult..Maybe talk to him about this and make plans with him..
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post Sep 22 2006, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(brewoe_1988 @ Sep 22 2006, 01:20 PM)
flower,i dun feel like buying flower,others recomendation......... laugh.gif
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a box of chocolate? or a small plush toy that can be put on beg?

QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Sep 22 2006, 02:50 PM)
Wahlao eh miyoko,what a long post..haha..anyway,northasian,i think you should give ur partner some time before deciding..I mean,if you keep on pushing him,he will feel stressed and difficult..Maybe talk to him about this and make plans with him..
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sorry for such a long post. hehehe... eyes tired of reading is it? sorry ah...

yeah, northasian, try not to push too much about getting married and having family and things like that. as you said, currently, his business is not so well. i would advice you to be supportive, and try not to over pressure him with family and marriage or migration kind of thingy. maybe talk nicely with him and discuss for a solution agreeable to both of you. all the best, yeah.
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post Sep 22 2006, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(miyoko @ Sep 22 2006, 02:59 PM)
a box of chocolate? or a small plush toy that can be put on beg?
sorry for such a long post. hehehe... eyes tired of reading is it? sorry ah...

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hmm,chocolate nt so bad,but wht type chocolate girls like................
then i need one more,coz i make her angry,need two present............... laugh.gif
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post Sep 22 2006, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(jdreamer @ Sep 22 2006, 07:41 AM)
Thanks..

But sorry that I cant give much advice to u about ur problem. I failed my relationship so Im not qualified to.
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Please don't say so la... anyway thanks for reading my posts....

QUOTE(miyoko @ Sep 22 2006, 09:54 AM)
thanks a lot for your wish. me and my dear didnt only back to normal. actually, i feel both of us have moved to another level in our relationship. previously there's some kind of barrier when we are to talk of certain things but now, it's no longer there. we are more close to each others and i strongly believe there's a future for both of us. currently, we are working together to furnish his house (our house) wub.gif
In my opinion, everyone have a different sets of "ga jik goon" or "yan sang goon". this is definitely unavoidable. me and my dear also different. i guess, in this kind of situation, RESPECT and COMPROMISE is EXTREMELY important. well, i hope that the things that i will say will not offend you. if i ever do, let me apologize first.

i somehow feel you ought to respect your bf's choice. dont put your thought or opinion is more previledge than his thought or opinion. both's opinion should be at the same level. there's no superiority in relationship. try not to put yourself as the superior here. try to put yourself in his position and dont think so negatively. he must have his own reason to wanting to have his own business. try to respect it, ok? as to why i say not to put yourself in the superior, is because when you put yourself in superior, you will tend to think that only your idea works while his idea is not as good as yours. yes, i understand that you are from Hong Kong and you would know the culture there more than him and you believe that working for others is a better start than to straight away start his own business (if he is to go to Hong Kong). However, there are cases where a foreigner is success starting business in a foreign country. have some faith and confident in him. try not to worry about it too much and create tense between both of you.

yes, i do know that you would want him to be financially viable to finance your family (i mean the family that both of you will build together). but you gotta understand that the family belongs to both of you. so both of you gotta work together to finance it and to make it a happy family. yes, the responsibility lies higher and heavier on the man's shoulder, but the woman behind him acts to support him in case if the burden is too heavy.

try to understand the reason to why he wants to start his business. frankly speaking, having own business is indeed a better way to earn money. and frankly speaking, it doesnt only take 1 year for a new starting company to earn money. it will take at least 1.5 or 2 years to break even and start to earn money. so i believe, time and support is what he needs now.

take myself as an example. i'm not the type of person who always like to take risk. so when my dear tell me he's starting business, i'm kind of worried. moreover, his ex-company (that time his company) have just promoted him and there's salary increment and there's also some counter offer when he resign. i thought that it would be safer to work for others because if lost money also, still the money is the other company's money. so, i kind of not that supportive. but when he told me that the reason why he wanna start his business is because he wanna have his own career and to earn more money for his future family (me and our family), i decided to fully support him. because if i love him, i have to love all of him. we'll be there for each others to support each others through ups and down.

then, now, he has got really little time for me. i was sad and kind of angry about it and we got some argument and cold war for 1 day (one day only, hehehe... cos i couldnt stand pretending to be angry but actually care about him - such a torture for me) then eventually after i think about it, i come to understand that no matter how i angry or cold war or scold him, he couldnt do anything about his time because he just couldnt fork out the time. and when i get angry about it, it only made both of us unhappy, so, eventually, i learn to accept it and deep down inside me, i know that he will definitely spend time to accompany me if he's available. and that's just what he do. so happy about it. he always try to arrange his time to be there for me when i need him wub.gif

anyway, enough about my part. northasian, maybe you ought to talk it with him. ask him the reason why he want his own business. dont jump into conclusion that he want his own business just because he wanna be boss and dont wanna work under people. remember one thing, even if he have his own business, he still work under other people, and that other people is his CUSTOMERS. well, i guess i wrote too long. hope that it's of some help. all the best to you, yeah.
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QUOTE(miyoko @ Sep 22 2006, 02:59 PM)
yeah, northasian, try not to push too much about getting married and having family and things like that. as you said, currently, his business is not so well. i would advice you to be supportive, and try not to over pressure him with family and marriage or migration kind of thingy. maybe talk nicely with him and discuss for a solution agreeable to both of you. all the best, yeah.
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Miyoko,

Thanks for your advices and suggestions....

I just feel like losing sense of security and stability after he started doing business, and somemore I am running out of my time. You know girl's time is precious, this is why I become kinda pushy and demanding. I didn't mean to be superior over him on making the decision of where is the best place to live, and yea, I know I am wrong for not respecting his own wish. When I have to respect his wish, should he also respect my wish? We're now talking on the email about this problem, and seems both of us standing firm on our point. Now he said he WILL NEVER come to HK and wanna concentrate on his business... so what could I do now? Give him time to succeed and wait? or just let go the relationship? For sure I am "ng seh dak" to let go it...... almost 2.5 years together...

Wanna find a place to hide and cry as hard as I want....... cry.gif cry.gif

QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Sep 22 2006, 02:50 PM)
Wahlao eh miyoko,what a long post..haha..anyway,northasian,i think you should give ur partner some time before deciding..I mean,if you keep on pushing him,he will feel stressed and difficult..Maybe talk to him about this and make plans with him..
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Thanks max, I am talking to him on email now.... still no outcome...



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post Sep 22 2006, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(northasian @ Sep 22 2006, 05:22 PM)
Please don't say so la... anyway thanks for reading my posts....
Miyoko,

Thanks for your advices and suggestions....

I just feel like losing sense of security and stability after he started doing business, and somemore I am running out of my time. You know girl's time is precious, this is why I become kinda pushy and demanding. I didn't mean to be superior over him on making the decision of where is the best place to live, and yea, I know I am wrong for not respecting his own wish. When I have to respect his wish, should he also respect my wish? We're now talking on the email about this problem, and seems both of us standing firm on our point. Now he said he WILL NEVER come to HK and wanna concentrate on his business... so what could I do now? Give him time to succeed and wait? or just let go the relationship? For sure I am "ng seh dak" to let go it...... almost 2.5 years together...

Wanna find a place to hide and cry as hard as I want.......  cry.gif  cry.gif   
Thanks max, I am talking to him on email now.... still no outcome...
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you should give without expecting anything in return. meaning, you respect his decision but at the same time, ask him what's his plan if he dont wanna go to HK. anyway, how old are you? i always believe, dont get married because we are getting older. but get married because we are committed and ready to commit more. hey, dont cry... talk things nicely with him. say all your difficulties.

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post Sep 22 2006, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(jdreamer @ Sep 22 2006, 12:25 PM)
Maybe try something like post something to her. Buy her some stuffs in Japan and post to her.
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did that a few times ald....
going to send her some stuffs next week too..
any other ideas?
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post Sep 22 2006, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(firewire @ Sep 22 2006, 12:10 PM)
quicksilver, you dont have to thank us, we are trying to help each other here. as for you situation, as long as you have done your best and not to worry too much. she is insecure because you dont spend enough time with her (as in online)? i got a feeling she's the sticky type of patners, need your maximum attention and care. maybe she's still young, hence will depend a lot on you. are you good in writing? perhaps you can cheer her up with some poem and fiction about you too, not sure will it works but do try smile.gif
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i dont know if im good...but people say i am...
i have a website where i write all these things about her, about me, about us....Our story...

If i dont spend time with her online...i call her almost every nite....
at least 3,4 times a week....Issit too much?

Thanx firewire
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QUOTE(miyoko @ Sep 22 2006, 05:48 PM)
you should give without expecting anything in return. meaning, you respect his decision but at the same time, ask him what's his plan if he dont wanna go to HK. anyway, how old are you? i always believe, dont get married because we are getting older. but get married because we are committed and ready to commit more. hey, dont cry... talk things nicely with him. say all your difficulties.
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He has told me his plan, which is stay in Malaysia and focus on developing his own business. I am going to be the end of a girl's golden era next year la. I understand what you meant about marriage.... Just afraid we won't have a chance to get married now........ sigh... I've told him my difficulties, which is I need sense of security and stability, both financially and in terms of living environment... Originally I was prepared to sacrifice, but of coz I don't prefer to move to a place where I'm not familiar, not so convenient, not so safe, not so fair for Chinese, and no friends and relatives of mine at all.... I always think if I happen to move there in the future, and at the end I was killed in any accident there, he will regret for the rest of his life. I'm really quite afraid of living in there, you know? This is my difficulty, and I've told him ages ago.... Should he also think by putting himself in my situation?
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QUOTE(northasian @ Sep 22 2006, 02:07 AM)
These days I am kinda emotional becoz of a problem... Here I've a question to ask : If the 人生觀/價值觀 (sorry don't know how to say in English) of the couple is different, is it hard for the couple to continue their relationship?
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其实每个人的人生观与价值观是不可能同等的.但人与人之间能够在一起,除了是缘分也要讲下默契.一对情侣当在一起的时候,注重的是感觉因为爱情是要两人去经营的.并非单方面唱独角戏.

所以,我的结论是人生观与价值观并非绊脚石.但是失去感觉又或者没办法达成共识才是爱情最大的障碍.
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QUOTE(northasian @ Sep 22 2006, 06:11 PM)
He has told me his plan, which is stay in Malaysia and focus on developing his own business. I am going to be the end of a girl's golden era next year la. I understand what you meant about marriage.... Just afraid we won't have a chance to get married now........ sigh... I've told him my difficulties, which is I need sense of security and stability, both financially and in terms of living environment... Originally I was prepared to sacrifice, but of coz I don't prefer to move to a place where I'm not familiar, not so convenient, not so safe, not so fair for Chinese, and no friends and relatives of mine at all.... I always think if I happen to move there in the future, and at the end I was killed in any accident there, he will regret for the rest of his life. I'm really quite afraid of living in there, you know? This is my difficulty, and I've told him ages ago....  Should he also think by putting himself in my situation?
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Do not worry about those trivial matters..It'll only make your relationship worse and you'd seem like a very desparate person..Everybody grows old with time and everyone knows that.Relax awhile and call him if can.It'll be much better.And i personally feel that you need not give up this relationship as most guys are very stuck onto their careers.I understand how you feel about time but trust me,a relationship needs time for its own also so the best way is to talk to him..Avoid emails or sms-es because this discussion is a critical one.Wish you all the best.
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QUOTE(brewoe_1988 @ Sep 22 2006, 08:21 PM)
no ppl want help me? cry.gif
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The most common Cadbury choaolate oso can la..Ah,i remember(i think it was 7chai's idea) to buy a kinder bueno for girls..

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QUOTE(jdreamer @ Sep 22 2006, 07:41 AM)
Thanks..

But sorry that I cant give much advice to u about ur problem. I failed my relationship so Im not qualified to.
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hey u shdn't have say that u failed for it... though yes it had end... but at least u had maintained it for 4years.... think of the positive ok... don't think too much of the failure n b strong...
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I'll try to forget.. I'll try to forget.. Since she has already changed, and being mean to me these few days.. Why am I wasting time, energy and money on her ? I'm stupid, I am. My family and friends have been asking me to move, and I think I should. I still love her but I'll try to forget her since that she has already made that decision. And yea, I've never failed her. She was the one who changed, not me. I remained faithful and willing to wait for her for 7 years but she was the one who gave up, not me.

Thanks for all these while. I appreciate u all.

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QUOTE(jdreamer @ Sep 23 2006, 11:37 AM)
I'll try to forget.. I'll try to forget.. Since she has already changed, and being mean to me these few days.. Why am I wasting time, energy and money on her ? I'm stupid, I am. My family and friends have been asking me to move, and I think I should. I still love her but I'll try to forget her since that she has already made that decision. And yea, I've never failed her. She was the one who changed, not me.  I remained faithful and willing to wait for her for 7 years but she was the one who gave up, not me.

Thanks for all these while. I appreciate u all.
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take it easy ok...these things takes time to heal....
for now...just busy urself....

when i broke up before...i started to spend more n more time with frens....always go to studio, jamming with frens....
Play the drums, realy can release my tension....

u can fond something to do too....to keep ur mind off her...
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