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English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Liv 4-3 Swansea | Heart Attack

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Duke Red
post Feb 11 2014, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Feb 11 2014, 11:50 AM)
Elijah Wood was lel...
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Feb 11 2014, 11:59 AM)
just read on bleacher report that Hendo broke his wrist during the AFC match and will be playing against Fulham with the broken wrist, provided that the match is still on.

damn this lad is really something. perhaps skrtel influenced him when he played with a stapled head laugh.gif
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I think players these days are a little spoilt la. I mean you don't play football with your wrist wat. It's probably a small bone, I don't know. Former Red, Gerry Bryne once broke his collarbone in the 3rd minute of a match and this was in 1965 when substitutes were not permitted by authorities. Bloke had to play through the agonising pain but it didn't stop him from making his trademark marauding runs forward from left back. Breaking your collarbone is painful man because unlike your wrist, you can't put it in a cast or splint and almost every movement involves your neck.

Men were built of sterner stuff back then. Someone should tell Hendo it isn't his wrist, it's Liverpool's wrist! smile.gif

As Bill Shankly once said to the "Anfield Iron", Tommy Smith, "Take that bandage off! And what do you mean YOUR knee? It’s LIVERPOOL’S knee!"

QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Feb 11 2014, 12:11 PM)
do the wide-man-cross tactic is outdated tactic or need time to adept?

kenny doing this but it cost his job in the end... while villa also using this with exceptional ok atm...
my op, still thinking this tactic is reliable but need time to make it effective
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I won't say it's outdated but it's an old tactic. Especially effective back in the day's of the "big man - small man" combination. Who did Kenny have to aim for? Suarez? The problem with crosses is that you're effectively relinquishing possession most of the time which is why managers these days, prefer short passes I believe. Unlike back in the days of giant centreforwards, centrebacks these days are usually significantly bigger and taller than forwards.

In my opinion, playing a lot of crosses is a matter of quantity over quality. You get to create more chances than you would if you tried to break down defences with a less direct approach but the conversion ratio is generally not as high.

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post Feb 11 2014, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Feb 11 2014, 12:19 PM)
SAF's formula for past decade aite? in before #BRforMU tongue.gif
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Exactly which is why I never really get into discussions involving transfers because...

a) I am not really familiar with players outside of England. This isn't to say I'm not aware of players who play in the World Cup, I just don't know enough to comment on whether or not they'll fit the team.

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b) I'm more focused on how the team is playing as a unit regardless of personnel. This is why I've become a fan of Rodgers. He doesn't talk as much about players as he does about how he wants them to play. He articulates how he wants to team to play very clearly and it's beginning to pay dividends. I'm not just saying this because we've just trounced Arsenal. I'm saying this because we're currently in fourth, and only 6 points off the top despite having a squad that can be considered inferior on paper.
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Feb 11 2014, 01:29 PM)
its not like the lad complained, he never said a word about it i guess the physicians found out because the article also mentions that it is uncertain how and when the lad broke his wrist icon_rolleyes.gif
I know mate, I'm just taking the piss. I like Hendo if it wasn't obvious enough. I just think that in general, we are far to forgiving when it comes to injuries because like I said, players used to play with broken bones back in the day. Gerry Bryne's example was a pretty good one because he was in excruciating pain the whole game and he never asked to come off.

QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 11 2014, 01:40 PM)
You know when i was watching our demolition job on Arsenal and the camera pans to BR showing our manager looking extremely animated - screaming and clapping on the touchline - urging his players to keep turning on the pressure. All the while his counterpart Wenger sat motionless. This was when we were already leading 4-0. He was absolutely relentless and in that very instance, he reminded me of Rafa.

On retrospect, I've realized that I've never moved on from Rafa and that's even after we were smashing the likes of Spurs and Everton. But something has changed during this match, and for the first time in a long long time, I can truly say that I've finally moved on and not because BR is a better man or his football is a thing of beauty or whatever, but like in the days of Rafa, i now know it in my heart that the club is under safe hands with BR at the helm. And that we have ourselves a true visionary,  a football genius and a leader that we can depend on.

He will make mistakes and there will be setbacks along the way, but I think we on the verge of something special here.
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Which is why I like this quote of his.

“I will leave no stone unturned in my quest – and that quest will be relentless.”

It's also why I feel perplexed whenever someone never has a nice thing to say about him. I think he's done enough to earn our trust at the very least. He's lived up to his words and you can see that he's learning and absorbing all the time. What more does he have to do?
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Feb 11 2014, 02:24 PM)
Sorry but who run that fast 20.5mph or 20.5km/h? With or without the ball?
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Read the article on Henderson that was posted. It was in reference to his top speed against Arsenal. The article pointed out that he is a workhorse who covers more ground than anyone. In the game against Arsenal, that was the top speed he achieved and he was second only to Gibbs and Sturridge but he covered them most ground.
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QUOTE(terryfu @ Feb 11 2014, 02:57 PM)
Who never has anything nice to say about our BR?
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Just wait till we drop points again.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 11 2014, 03:09 PM)
That's a great quote and has the potential to be one of the most poignant Liverpool quotes of all times. I think for some people BR has to win trophies before they can fully believe he's a genuine winner. It's may also because he's a rather young manager who seems to be evolving on each passing day. He's not a finished product - always experimenting, always pushing the boundaries. That ever changing nature of him makes him some sort of an enigma - which can be easily misunderstood for many different things.
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Well Kenny did get us into 2 finals, winning one of them.

Here's the thing. Trophies are destinations we want to go to. The journey however does matter. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging the milestones along the way. As it stands, his attitude has been exemplary and he is completely dedicated to his job. One might say that those who subscribe to "The Liverpool Way", would give him props for that at least. It is after all what's supposed to set us apart given the number of proclamations that we're different and better than I've seen.
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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Feb 11 2014, 03:19 PM)
There are all sort of mind blowing comments about BR, from his lack of tactical knowhow, slow to make impact substitution, poor signings, to poor media representation, you name it, u got it....but fans from other clubs are singing praises of the work done by BR...being a silent observer in Man U , Man C and Arsnal, most of them are afraid of meeting Liverpool nowadays....Even The Star predicts more wins for Reds than back in those days...And how about the pundits - Shebby, Abas, Boateng and even Corkhill (yeah, bias) marveled at the intricacies of our passing and pressing game. Having said this, we are still improving as we are not chasing on few fronts and no European football, perhaps a better time to judge BR is how he manage European football if we qualify for UCL...
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I do think it's still early days in terms of judging Rodgers. What I do think however is that we can at the very least acknowledge him for work done and for the improvements he's brought to the team. I mean it's relatively the same team we're fielding but we're playing differently and the league table doesn't lie. Sure, there's room for improvement but Rodgers has shown so far that he can improve the team and I'm sure he'll continue to do so.
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Feb 11 2014, 03:25 PM)
Apparently Usian Bolt's 23.35mph. Could Hendo really be that fast? O.o
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Seems plausible. Didn't say how long he needed to reach that speed though. I'm sure Bolt would attain those speeds sooner than Hendo.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 11 2014, 03:31 PM)
There were people who doubted Kenny too back then. People will always have their reasons to dislike something. We've been through a turbulent period where we nearly near rock bottom. It can be tough on some people and some may not recover as quickly as others. Or maybe some people just dislike for dislike sake and rather watch the whole world burns. We can't please everyone.
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As much as I admire King Kenny, Brendan Rodgers has done a much better job at articulating his vision for the club. Kenny would have reverted to what he knew. He was no longer a student of the game. Rodgers still is which explains why this season's team is playing different football from last season's despite having the same players on the pitch. Rodgers was brought in for the future and it's obvious why. We cannot brush aside the limitations he's having to work under as excuses. Having to sign young players hence increasing the risk of buying a lemon, having to offload players at the same time to control the wage bill, etc. Sure there are consistency issues but he hasn't had the luxury of buying world class talent like the teams around us now have had. He doesn't have the luxury of overspending on players. I mean Dempsey's fee was not a huge one but he has to live by some really strict guidelines. I think he's doing a pretty good job so far in light of all of this.

QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 11 2014, 03:35 PM)
Dude he was fast. Even i didn't think he was that fast. Remember that play when Countiho weaved through 2-3 Arsenal players before setting up a beautiful weighted pass to Hendo ? He started his run from our half and outpaced Gibbs. Just couldn't finish it.
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I don't get why some people made such a big deal out of Fergie's comment that Henderson runs funny. I mean so did Michael Johnson and he is a world record holder.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 11 2014, 04:12 PM)
As for Fergie, does he ever says nice things about us ? People lap it up because they don't know any better. How's his chosen one doing by the way ? I'm sure even the most loyal manc fan will have problems believing that now. It will be funny if Hendo plays a storming game against the mancs later. Nothing like a weird running midfielder outclassing his beloved manc team.
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In my opinion, the fact that he washed his laundry in public by opting to have a go at several players in his biography lacked a bit of class. I mean he's a great manager but I don't like him as a man hence I don't take his comments to heart. They are usually laced with bitterness and anger instead of wit. This is the main thing that differentiated Shankly from him.

Suarez dived in front of Moyes after he scored. Maybe Hendo will run funny in front of Fergie (who will probably warm and snug in the VIP section) if he scores.
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Good read this. Gives you an idea of how much of a perfectionist Rodgers is and it does reinforce his statement that his pursuit will "be relentless".

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport/football/...-fc-can-6693672?

As it stands, we've achieved our highest goals tally after 25 games of any top flight season. That's some record considering the great teams we've had in the past.
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Nice one. If Forlan had revealed this earlier, Fergie would have added him to his hit list in his biography.

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/02/10/...join-liverpool/
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Interesting point to note. Michael Oliver was the referee for our game against Arsenal and the bloke is only 28.
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Nice. Arnie and Carl Weathers in Predator.

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QUOTE(terryfu @ Feb 12 2014, 08:53 AM)
I woke up to see the foal starting to accelerate faster.

Come on you Reds. Don't slip up now.

Interesting fact : MU & Southampton are the only 2 top 10 teams left we have to visit smile.gif
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I don't really relish playing relegation teams towards the end of the season either. Even the tamest of animals fight back when backed into a corner.
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I almost feel off my chair when I saw this posted on RAWK.


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As long as Moyes doesn't "shake up" the team too much, shouldn't matter which way it points.
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Like I said, playing relegation teams at this stage of the competition when they are fighting for their lives is always a dicey affair.

Hit the post once again. Defensive howlers once more. Bring back Agger please.

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QUOTE(terryfu @ Feb 13 2014, 06:29 AM)
What are they smoking at st james park, eh?
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Not sure what the rule it now. I know messages are banned.

Think it can be construed as time wasting especially after a certain Diego Forlan made putting his kit back on look like he was trying to solve a rubik's cube.

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