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TSpizzaboy
post Jul 13 2006, 10:02 AM

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okay this is a very strange question
There' sthis guy with these stats

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Stats 5/15/06
Bench - 155 3x
Squat - 230 4x
Dead - 180 6x


I can bench 180lbs 2x, Dead 200lbs x 4

However, my squat is nowhere near his. I only squat 143LBS, that's like 90lbs less than his. Kinda annoying......urgh. Still not sacrificing perfect form for weight though. Will never do tat.
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post Jul 13 2006, 12:28 PM

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Drop the front raises, your anterior deltoids get hit enough from bench pressing and shoulder pressing.
Do your back first before your shoulders as back is a bigger bodypart. I would recommend you grouping shoulders and chest together though, the back is a huge muscle and you need a whole session ot focus on it.
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post Jul 13 2006, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jul 13 2006, 10:02 AM)
okay this is a very strange question
There' sthis guy with these stats
I can bench 180lbs 2x, Dead 200lbs x 4

However, my squat is nowhere near his. I only squat 143LBS, that's like 90lbs less than his. Kinda annoying......urgh. Still not sacrificing perfect form for weight though. Will never do tat.
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Very simple. Most people put e-stats. They lie about how much they can lift. The best way is to back up lifts with a video like me. People can't say i'm lying about lifting heavy because I have videos of my lifts.
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post Jul 16 2006, 01:34 PM

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Today's a Sunday, I did my chest. I had a terrible back day on Friday. Didn't do it right, so I'm intend to try that again on Monday perhaps.

Anyway, for today's chest.

Bodyweight Dips

10 reps x 4 sets

Incline Bench Press

80lbs x 10
100lbs x 10
120lbs x 8
120lbs x 8
120lbs x 8

Dumbell Decline Press

40lbs per hand x 10
40lbs per hand x 10
40lbs per hand x 10
40lbs per hand x 10

Dumbell Extensions

40lbs x 10
40lbs x 10
65lbs x 4
65lbs x 4

Chest Pec

60lbs x 4 (I got the wrong weight)
50lbs x 8
50lbs x 8

Calve raises

200lbs x 25
200lbs x 20
200lbs x 30

my calves felt, like it went through squats on the thighs.

PWO Shake

10 scoops oats + 500ml mlk + Honey

PWO meall

10 small chops of chicken
1 potato
2 eggs
Jambu batu. Sedapnyer....
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post Jul 18 2006, 07:52 PM

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today's bodyweight day.

10 reps x 3 sets of bodyweight pull-ups. Normal grip

20 reps x 5 sets of push-ups

Muay thai

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post Jul 18 2006, 09:43 PM

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Muay Thai ? Awesome .. where u take the class ?
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post Jul 19 2006, 06:52 PM

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used to learn from friends from thailand
now they're gone, so i just train with a punching bag and do a lot of fast kicks on a kicking pad.

For the knee attacks, I get my brother to hold a solid pillow and i hold one too. I do knee attacks, he does roundhouse kicks. We do it till one of us gives up first. IT's really fun.

Anyway, today's leg day.

Squats

20KG x 10
40KG x 10
60KG x 8
60Kg x 6
65KG x 6
65KG x 4

Leg Press

115KG x 10
115KG X 10
115KG X 10
115KG X 10.

Leg Curls

60Lbs x 8
60lbs x8

drive home....it's a chore okay.
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post Jul 19 2006, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jul 19 2006, 06:52 PM)
used to learn from friends from thailand
now they're gone, so i just train with a punching bag and do a lot of fast kicks on a kicking pad.

For the knee attacks, I get my brother to hold a solid pillow and i hold one too. I do knee attacks, he does roundhouse kicks. We do it till one of us gives up first. IT's really fun.
do any slow motion kicks? they help alot with precision and thats imporant for practical use.

do you spar with your brother? i found round house kicks to be completely useless in fights where the other guy tries to grapple you down to the ground, fast short kicks to the legs, kidneys and head seem to work better than fully extended kicks where you expose yourself alot more.
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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jul 19 2006, 07:27 PM)
do any slow motion kicks? they help alot with precision and thats imporant for practical use.

do you spar with your brother? i found round house kicks to be completely useless in fights where the other guy tries to grapple you down to the ground, fast short kicks to the legs, kidneys and head seem to work better than fully extended kicks where you expose yourself alot more.
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Every morning, 20 times, extremely slow sidekicks, roundhouse kicks, front kicks, reverse kicks and backthrusts. Just try to hold it as long as possible without losing balance.

My bro does roundhouse kicks cuz you can't use knees in taekwondo. SO since roundhouse kicks' are like the most commonly used, he trains them. Yes, he knows it's completely useless in real life, so my bro's just training till he gets his black belt before he moves to a more advanced style of martial arts.

He was thinking aikido or karate. Bugger thinks muay thai is for people that like to fight naked and get smeared in the sweat of his opponent. Baskit....
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post Jul 19 2006, 08:55 PM

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okay, i think i've got the perfick form for deadlifts.......
well at least while holding the broomstick i can do it well...

to try this saturday.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jul 19 2006, 08:20 PM)
My bro does roundhouse kicks cuz you can't use knees in taekwondo. SO since roundhouse kicks' are like the most commonly used, he trains them. Yes, he knows it's completely useless in real life, so my bro's just training till he gets his black belt before he moves to a more advanced style of martial arts.

He was thinking aikido or karate. Bugger thinks muay thai is for people that like to fight naked and get smeared in the sweat of his opponent. Baskit....
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tongue.gif i do roundhouses aswell, suck at them though. alot of guys say they are useful but i think thats because they fight in standup fights with no grabbing or hitting while the otherguy is down. but hey chuck norris doesnt seem to think roundhouse kicks are useless and thats all that matters.

have a friendly full contact fight with him, send a knee to the side of his head and see if he still thinks its useless... if he's still conscious. alot of people keep going on about how this style is crap or that style is crap, most of the time these people have never been in a real fight against someone good from the style they're criticizing.

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post Jul 20 2006, 09:58 AM

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well... that's the problem with the modern martial arts school
they train you for the competition only... no face hitting lar, no groin hitting lar, no grappling lar.. etc
those technique you learned in the class will be pretty useless in an actual no rules street fighting.
IMO, you'll have to let go of those rules that you are bound to when you're in a real fight, go for the most effective and most straight foward technique, and don't forget to practice grappling technique too wink.gif
Among the major martial arts out there, the one I really don't want to fight , either in a ring or street fight, is Jiujitsu. I think the only way to beat them is to run as fast as you can from them tongue.gif


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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Jul 20 2006, 09:58 AM)
well... that's the problem with the modern martial arts school
they train you for the competition only... no face hitting lar, no groin hitting lar, no grappling lar.. etc
those technique you learned in the class will be pretty useless in an actual no rules street fighting.
IMO, you'll have to let go of those rules that you are bound to when you're in a real fight, go for the most effective and most straight foward technique, and don't forget to practice grappling technique too wink.gif
Among the major martial arts out there, the one I really don't want to fight , either in a ring or street fight, is Jiujitsu.  I think the only way to beat them is to run as fast as you can from them tongue.gif
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kyokushin doesnt allow hitting to the face with your fist or elbow but you can kick in the face, they incorperate hard sparring to teach students how to withstand pain, while it may not be practical by limiting sparring tactics they do teach face punching they just dont do it in sparring.

its a misconception that skills learnt in martial arts are useless in street fights, they are only useless if the practitioner is unable to utilise the skills he has learned. bruce lee would pwnt 80% of the brawlers and gang punks out there with ease, again practitioner over practice. most schools dont teach you how to hit someone when theyre down or condition your mind to fight, those schools are useless not the actual style itself.

yeah jiujitsu practitioners who know their stuff are tough in a fight, the can really f*** you up on the floor, the problem with jiujitsu comes with a multiple opponent fight, while you grapple the otherguy bashes your head in.

imo since most fights in malaysia involve more than 1 opponent(even malaysian school girls are gangbangers now apparently) and if i could only learn from 2 schools for the purpose of fighting multiple opponents i'd pick aikido + kyokushin.

anyways... sry to go off topic here. i seem to be doing that alot lately.

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post Jul 20 2006, 11:19 AM

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It's not possible for me to plant a knee on my brother's face.

Everytime we have a sparring match (actually he has the bodyvest, but I don't!!) but I can never seem to hit his head with my knee. I'd jump high enough, and instead of avoiding, he'll just send a high back kick into my abs. Yes they hurt, especially when you don't have a vest.
He is pretty bloody fast and usually jumps out before I am close enough to hit his face. So usually, we'll just play around with roundhouse kicks and reverse kicks and knee attacks as well as front kicks. I don't wanna hurt hiM!! My mom'll kill me

My brother does know a lot about taekwondo, but he admits tkd isn't very useful in real life fights. Even his "Bakat" (some talented fighters group la) group leader said once;

"IF you get in a fight, taekwondo has trained you in speed. Taekwondo has trained you in resistance. Please grab a hard object and place your back onto a wall to minimize your attackers area of attack. Then hit everybody you can and immediatelly run away.

He came back devastated. Lmao!

I still think muay thai rox, rox! Oh and taichi is lots of fun and pain.
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post Jul 20 2006, 11:33 AM

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taichi hurts? It dosent lah. unless your master didint ask you guys to stretch and do the jibengong (basic moves) before you start

I've been doing chen-style taichi for a year now. It's very good, at least for me, although I always kena marah by by the master (he goes "I know you didint practice!")

so far lots of improvements on my well being.
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post Jul 20 2006, 12:01 PM

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Haha! Now Pizza's journal has become a martial arts thread tongue.gif

Well.. for a 1 to many fight, first thing I'll do is..... CABUT!!!
Run as fast as you can

If no where to run, I'll just grab any hard object and start whacking and look for opening to cabut tongue.gif

1 to 1 fight i'll just target his weak spot like groin and throat first... even thou they teach me not to attack these spot in martial art classes tongue.gif

btw, I've seen an blackbelt instructor got gangbanged by a few ahbeng, until he's hospitalised for weeks. Somemore prior to the fight, he still challenge them for a 1 to 1 fight doh.gif End up kena gangbanged pula doh.gif

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post Jul 20 2006, 03:39 PM

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well i hope to be a 95KG muay thai fighter ....so i'm okay with martial arts discussions.

Martial arts, despite how many bodybuilders deny it, actually is more fun that weightlifting. A lotl
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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Jul 20 2006, 11:33 AM)
taichi hurts? It dosent lah. unless your master didint ask you guys to stretch and do the jibengong (basic moves) before you start
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it hurts when you're sparring(do taichi practicioners actually spar?), when we say taichi we dont mean taichi morning exercises, we mean taichi as in come at me so i can fling you across the room.

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ahh now you have to hide from darklight!
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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jul 20 2006, 04:22 PM)
it hurts when you're sparring(do taichi practicioners actually spar?), when we say taichi we dont mean taichi morning exercises, we mean taichi as in come at me so i can fling you across the room.
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dunno why but the master dosent allow us to spar. But he did use me for demo once and omg hurts!!!!@@
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Aight, tmr's back day. Here's what I've got planned. The back still explodes, unlike the shoulders and chest. God they never grow, gotta find a way to make them.

Pull-ups 1-1-2

Bodyweight x 12 reps x 3 sets

Barbell Row 1-1-2

80lbs x 12
100lbs x 12
120lbs x 10
130lbs x 8
140lbs x 6
150lbs x 2

(I betcha notice I LOVE barbell rows eh? kakakak!)

Machine Rows 1-1-2

60lbs x 10
70lbs x 10
80lbs x 10
90lbs x 8
100lbs x 6

Lateral Pulldowns. 2-2-3

70lbs x 10
80lbs x 8
90lbs x 6
100lbs x 4

Deadlift

100lbs x 10
120lbs x 10
140lbs x 8



I'm damn sure I won't be able to pull deadlift with perfect form at 240lbs, so i'll just lower it all the way down.

My back responds well to workouts, better make the best of it's responsiveness before it hits a pleateau.

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