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chiahau
post Feb 20 2014, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(donizback @ Feb 20 2014, 05:04 PM)
5 years? Are you for real dude!
I am about to finish ACCA in this year and I started exactly in June 2012. 5 years can do PhD lol
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Read properly what he wrote.

He said a DEGREE WITH ACCA afterwards.

3~4 years for a degree, 1 more year for final 5 P papers, sounds legit no?
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post Feb 20 2014, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Feb 20 2014, 08:49 PM)
Read properly what he wrote.

He said a DEGREE WITH ACCA afterwards.

3~4 years for a degree, 1 more year for final 5 P papers, sounds legit no?
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My bad sweat.gif didn't read clearly haha
Then it sounds legit but still there are alternatives by which ACCA can be done after SPM or even no previous background in 3 years or so.
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post Feb 20 2014, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(donizback @ Feb 20 2014, 09:31 PM)
My bad  sweat.gif  didn't read clearly haha
Then it sounds legit but still there are alternatives by which ACCA can be done after SPM or even no previous background in 3 years or so.
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True enough.

But some ppl prefer to get a degree 1st before deciding what to do.
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post Feb 20 2014, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Feb 20 2014, 09:38 PM)
True enough.

But some ppl prefer to get a degree 1st before deciding what to do.
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Good for them icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Feb 20 2014, 09:38 PM)
True enough.

But some ppl prefer to get a degree 1st before deciding what to do.
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hi boss

that depends on the financial condition of one la

if he / his family can afford it ... I agree to go out explore more before entering working life

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post Feb 21 2014, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(donizback @ Feb 20 2014, 06:04 PM)
5 years? Are you for real dude!
I am about to finish ACCA in this year and I started exactly in June 2012. 5 years can do PhD lol
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Didn't you read? Seriously some people only see numbers without reading and you said you're about to finish ACCA. Gosh I wonder where you came from seriously. Must be ACCA examiners close their eyes when they mark yours. I said DEGREE with ACCA. Stupidity counts on all levels and you said you're finishing ACCA? OMG OMG if you're an auditor now, I must warn the company that this dude doesn't read. Blind for sure.
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post Feb 21 2014, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Feb 20 2014, 10:38 PM)
True enough.

But some ppl prefer to get a degree 1st before deciding what to do.
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Some people is truly stupid and that guy is. Getting a degree before ACCA is the safest route out. Firstly, it ensures one has a degree first, giving them a stable job. A half way ACCA student is not recognised by the public. Only a fully-passded student is recognise whereas a degree ensures you can divert to another field if you want to since an accounting degree also adds a few sub-modules not required by an accountant. In a way, a degree provides a lifeline to those wanting to divert.
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post Feb 21 2014, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(whitesabre @ Feb 21 2014, 10:29 AM)
Didn't you read? Seriously some people only see numbers without reading and you said you're about to finish ACCA. Gosh I wonder where you came from seriously. Must be ACCA examiners close their eyes when they mark yours. I said DEGREE with ACCA. Stupidity counts on all levels and you said you're finishing ACCA? OMG OMG if you're an auditor now, I must warn the company that this dude doesn't read. Blind for sure.
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hahaha nothing to get angry about bro smile.gif
I already apologized about this in my previous post. Have a look!

Even I doubt ACCA examiners are either blind or too stupid to pass me in all the rest of ACCA papers and fail me in the easiest F6 paper laugh.gif Agree with you icon_rolleyes.gif

Anyway, sorry again smile.gif and don't get angry for these small reasons dude icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 21 2014, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(donizback @ Feb 20 2014, 10:31 PM)
My bad  sweat.gif  didn't read clearly haha
Then it sounds legit but still there are alternatives by which ACCA can be done after SPM or even no previous background in 3 years or so.
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Yes but an ACCA certificate is ONLY recognised within the acocunting/auditing profession. Out of it, for example marketing, and it's useless. However, an accounting degree allows a student to venture out if he finds out he's no longer interested in accounting/auditing field. Once again, I guess you need me to explain why since you got no idea what's an accounting degree. In the degree, most unis require students to take elective modules, meaning modules like marketing for instance. This is important if a student wanna divert to another field after graduating. AT LEAST, it is recognised industry-wide.
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post Feb 21 2014, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(whitesabre @ Feb 21 2014, 10:38 AM)
Yes but an ACCA certificate is ONLY recognised within the acocunting/auditing profession. Out of it, for example marketing, and it's useless. However, an accounting degree allows a student to venture out if he finds out he's no longer interested in accounting/auditing field. Once again, I guess you need me to explain why since you got no idea what's an accounting degree. In the degree, most unis require students to take elective modules, meaning modules like marketing for instance. This is important if a student wanna divert to another field after graduating. AT LEAST, it is recognised industry-wide.
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Depends on student bro. I like taking shortcuts whilst some other people don't like taking risk smile.gif
So I felt like doing ACCA as fast as I can then move to masters straightaway at the age of less than 20 smile.gif Sound awesome isn't it rclxm9.gif
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post Feb 21 2014, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(donizback @ Feb 21 2014, 11:41 AM)
Depends on student bro. I like taking shortcuts whilst some other people don't like taking risk smile.gif
So I felt like doing ACCA as fast as I can then move to masters straightaway at the age of less than 20 smile.gif Sound awesome isn't it  rclxm9.gif
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Haha everybody likes taking masters. Not only you, but ALL ACCA students. However, degree students will think otherwise. Pure CAT-ACCA students like you won't know the difficulty of doing research papers. Masters is not a full-time studying thingy like ACCA, where you mug and mug, then apply your knowledge in it.

Masters is more to research and research, combining 80 journals, each having 30-60 pages long, into one journal. Assignments, reading journals, and so on. It's totally different from ACCA.

In a research, there are NO shortcuts. You have to read the whole journal to find your wanted points. You cannot use word by word. You need to rephrase, rewrite, analyse and so on. Plagiarism is another case. Truly very few accountants/auditors take up masters. Only lecturers will take up coz all their time is dedicated to it.

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post Feb 21 2014, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(whitesabre @ Feb 21 2014, 10:45 AM)
Haha everybody likes taking masters. Not only you, but ALL ACCA students. However, degree students will think otherwise. Pure CAT-ACCA students like you won't know the difficulty of doing research papers. Masters is not a full-time studying thingy like ACCA, where you mug and mug, then apply your knowledge in it.

Masters is more to research and research, combining 80 journals, each having 30-60 pages long, into one journal. Assignments, reading journals, and so on. It's totally different from ACCA.
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Yup it is but still if there is a will, there is a way smile.gif
If we are willing to struggle then surely we'll get the fruit.

Doing masters sounds like doing OBU stuff by the way sweat.gif
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post Feb 21 2014, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(donizback @ Feb 21 2014, 10:47 AM)
Yup it is but still if there is a will, there is a way smile.gif
If we are willing to struggle then surely we'll get the fruit.

Doing masters sounds like doing OBU stuff by the way  sweat.gif
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Doing the OBU RAP will give you a rough idea on the process of writing a business project.

Unfortunately, it's nothing close to writing a dissertation for a postgraduate degree. I would say doing the OBU RAP is more like doing a simple assignment rather than writing a dissertation.

I once approached the programme manager of OBU RAP from UK (when he was in Malaysia) and I told him that something must be done to increase the rigor of this RAP. But looks like nothing has been done.

To jump from ACCA to MPhil is like jumping from a kiddy pool into the pacific ocean without a proper training on swimming.
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post Feb 21 2014, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Feb 21 2014, 11:23 AM)
Doing the OBU RAP will give you a rough idea on the process of writing a business project.

Unfortunately, it's nothing close to writing a dissertation for a postgraduate degree. I would say doing the OBU RAP is more like doing a simple assignment rather than writing a dissertation.

I once approached the programme manager of OBU RAP from UK (when he was in Malaysia) and I told him that something must be done to increase the rigor of this RAP. But looks like nothing has been done.

To jump from ACCA to MPhil is like jumping from a kiddy pool into the pacific ocean without a proper training on swimming.
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Are you trying to scare me or.................... sweat.gif

So you are saying that it is not a great idea to get into MPhil stuff after ACCA? Okay then, I follow your route then. What else should I do before starting MPhil in Finance?
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post Feb 21 2014, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(donizback @ Feb 21 2014, 11:27 AM)
Are you trying to scare me or....................  sweat.gif

So you are saying that it is not a great idea to get into MPhil stuff after ACCA? Okay then, I follow your route then. What else should I do before starting MPhil in Finance?
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If you like shortcuts, MPhil will hugely disappoint you.

Imagine while you are still halfway writing your MPhil dissertation into the second year of the programme, you will see your peers (peers who have failed several ACCA papers in the past) easily graduating with the MBAs within two years. laugh.gif

I don't want to scare you but I just want you to know what you are getting into. biggrin.gif

I think one should at least dip himself in an Olympic pool before diving into the Pacific Ocean.

A mixed-mode Master's programme would be a better option for a CAT-ACCA graduate rather than the 100% research-based MPhil.

The ACCA syllabus is designed for practitioners while the MPhil is designed for those who have at least some research background. It's a totally different world for both.

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post Feb 21 2014, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Feb 21 2014, 11:38 AM)
If you like shortcuts, MPhil will hugely disappoint you.

Imagine while you are still halfway writing your MPhil dissertation into the second year of the programme, you will see your peers (peers who have failed several ACCA papers in the past) easily graduating with the MBAs within two years.  laugh.gif

I don't want to scare you but I just want you to know what you are getting into.  biggrin.gif

I think one should at least dip himself in an Olympic pool before diving into the Pacific Ocean.

A mixed-mode Master's programme would be a better option for a CAT-ACCA graduate rather than the 100% research-based MPhil.
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So doing an MBA before MPhil would be a better choice is it?

I am sorry for asking such stupid questions doh.gif sweat.gif

I just took the shortcut and it went fine for me so now I have a chance to be an ACCA Affiliate by the age of 19 so I am not in a hurry since I am planning to study until I turn 25.
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post Feb 21 2014, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(donizback @ Feb 21 2014, 11:46 AM)
So doing an MBA before MPhil would be a better choice is it?

I am sorry for asking such stupid questions  doh.gif  sweat.gif

I just took the shortcut and it went fine for me so now I have a chance to be an ACCA Affiliate by the age of 19 so I am not in a hurry since I am planning to study until I turn 25.
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MBA or any other mixed-mode Master's programme (Eg. MSc in Accounting from UUM).

Or you can search slowly for any mixed-mode postgraduate programmes in Accounting from other foreign universities.

If you plan to pursue the academic career, please avoid those 100% coursework Master's.

There are some MBAs or Masters in Accounting which are 100% coursework where you don't need to write any dissertation at all. So, you have to avoid this.

If you have the time and the money, MPhil would be still be suitable. If you are aiming for shortcuts, please don't do the MPhil.
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post Feb 21 2014, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Feb 21 2014, 11:51 AM)
MBA or any other mixed-mode Master's programme (Eg. MSc in Accounting from UUM).

Or you can search slowly for any mixed-mode postgraduate programmes in Accounting from other foreign universities.

If you plan to pursue the academic career, please avoid those 100% coursework Master's.

There are some MBAs or Masters in Accounting which are 100% coursework where you don't need to write any dissertation at all. So, you have to avoid this.

If you have the time and the money, MPhil would be still be suitable. If you are aiming for shortcuts, please don't do the MPhil.
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Thanks a lot bro for your time and suggestion. You really gave me some valid points on which I need to think a lot smile.gif
Really appreciate rclxms.gif
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TS, my reply to your question is like this, simply, there are too many accounting graduate or professional certificate holders who do not the reason they study accounting in the first place.
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post Feb 21 2014, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(donizback @ Feb 21 2014, 11:56 AM)
Thanks a lot bro for your time and suggestion. You really gave me some valid points on which I need to think a lot smile.gif
Really appreciate  rclxms.gif
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First thing first, finish your ACCA first.

Get to work and then decide later. Don't forget to complete your 3-year experience requirement as well.

Who knows if you prefer to work as an accountant/auditor rather than working as an academic.

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