Dont buy reit now! Interest rate going to up up up! Its hurt!
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M Reits Version 6, Malaysia Real Estate Investment Trust
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Apr 18 2014, 01:21 PM
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Dont buy reit now! Interest rate going to up up up! Its hurt!
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Apr 18 2014, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Apr 18 2014, 01:23 PM) soo. for SURE REITs (MY, SG, AU, US, etc.) all will suffer? 1. Int up! Price drop ka? or DY drop? or.. what's sure ar bro? 2. Stock price for reit sure drop! 3. Buy in after drop when its low! 4. Then you get better div yield! 5. I believe you know it! 6. Dont believe? Let see how! 7. I dont buy reit as stock, I buy reit as fix deposit. 8. Good luck for trade. Always remember give something out after you make get profit. This post has been edited by w19: Apr 18 2014, 01:34 PM |
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Apr 18 2014, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Apr 18 2014, 01:34 PM) eh? not believer or not. Example / Just sharing!Just that i've no working crystal balls yet :sweat: Good lar - if drop. Current net DY yield not interesting heheh :) eh - what about if inflation or too much $ chasing too little real assets? VS interest rate up i mean, with every major super power "printing $" (well US is "scaling down" - thus interest rate up?) to devalue currency & create liquidity (fake or real), wont there be inflation and/or more $ chasing same real assets? again - no crystal balls yar, just thinking :respect: 1. Current Malaysia inflation rate is 3.5% (I just read it last two days.), bank FD rate is around 3%. 2. When FD rate is lower that inflation rate, if too long this will course asset bubble. Asset bubble: first: Currency Drop (I believe you know our currency have been drop 10% to USD. Dec 13 rm2.98 exchange 1 USD, Now Rm3.30 exchange 1 USD.) Second: Property & Stock. 3. You can find out why some of bank increase car loan interest by 0.4% to 0.7%. Bank say Bank Negara ask them to do it. The funny thing is Bank Negara give out statement saying they never have this instruction. (I just read it few days ago.) 4. What I know is we going to have next round currency drop.........if interest not up.........So sad..........My advice is move your money out now! Foreign Fund all out already. Super Rich all out already. Im poor little malaysian must out now to saving my money value........Investment is all about value. Money is all about value. If not, this all is just no and paper. 5. Believe or not! Let see! This post has been edited by w19: Apr 18 2014, 01:54 PM |
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Apr 18 2014, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Apr 18 2014, 02:15 PM) er.. item Just Sharing!1. inflation rate is usually > FD rate mar, unless there's a deflation (Japan before Abenomics anyone?) what's the big deal ar? BTW, did U know in MY 1980s - FD hit about 10%pa to 12%pa? AND that was during the golden bull run? 2. Due to (1.), i think this aint a sure thing 3. Speculation or truth - no impact right? what's done is done - interest rate up/down/left/right ALREADY. 4. Currency drop? U mean MYR vs USD? or MYR vs SGD? or MYR vs YEN? btw, MYR vs SGD - MYR actually strengthened this month vs 2 to 3 months ago leh (i track coz of my SGD investments + my love one studies in SG) as for MYR vs USD - MYR also strengthened past month VS 2 months+ ago - i was moving $ to US the whole 2 to 3 weeks last month+ VS last month weeks ago 5. Again - it's not a matter of believe or not. All these are speculation - just like someone in this thread (older version) that was screaming IGB good buy before IPO +someone else screaming office REITs all going to die 3 to 4 years ago. Funnily - those who got into IGB are now wondering VS those who held or bought into office REITs like TWRREIT is still smiling after 3 to 4 years. That is why i'm asking (not making a statement of fact) - are U sure? Just a thought :respect: Yes. you are right. Ringgit is strengthened but value of ringgit not the same like Dec 2013. Future no one know but Im not confidence. I choose to go. |
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Apr 19 2014, 02:05 AM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 18 2014, 07:33 PM) here u go... zeti/bnm is not as readable as u think when it comes to raising rates. wait till official inflation numbers hit 5% which means 10% in real life in klang valley - that's when they will act. Just Sharing!i say the probability of int rate hike is lower than zero water supply for a week this year. :P Currency going to drop! Subsidy going to cut down! If interest rate not up?! after that, asset bubble is coming. Before asset bubble we should have super bull run in the market because inflation rate is high that FD. So why you still keep money in bank. Aunty & Uncle from PASAR slot into this market. This going to be insane! Gold, you can forget it. Property, game over. Stock, we are on the way of super bull. KLCI PE is LOW compare to 1997 Asia financial Crisis PE 58, 2000 DOT COM BUBBLE PE 27, 2008 GREAT RECESSION PE 23. Anyway, please dont forget 1997 we have 10 times margin (Example: RM100k cash allow to play RM1m) and T30. Now 2014, we have 1 times margin and T10 only. |
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Apr 21 2014, 03:08 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 19 2014, 04:53 PM) Interest up, ya, may be 0.25%. :P Good Luck!What if, stock price for reit never drop, as no interest rate hike or due to future situation that favourable for reit? Now selling all the reit, receive cash, earning FD 3%, worst than reit yield. Moving out? Put in Aud? USD? AUd only 2.5%, worst than FD 3%, USD need not to say, 0.25%, RM depreciate actually not much movement over the 10 years period, if look back 10 years period, RM actually appreciate against USD, GBP, slight depreciate against AUD, slight depreciate against most currency only. I do not have crystal ball to know the future of reit price will drop for sure. But I know reit provide a good asset allocation/diversification purposes, even though reit may have poor outlook ahead, the most sensible way is to reduce the stake/portion/allocation but not selling all and hold cash. Unless one has crystal ball to know the exactly outcome of future, then different story. With GST is on the card for next year, the least BNM want to do is hike rate that result in economy slow down across. So personally I do not expect any drastic and urgent move for interest rate. |
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