this phone does not use joystick, but it uses D-pad. Bad for gaming, but for navigating is quite OK. I still preffer joystick like in K750i/W800i.. but i heard that the joystik tend to jam when too much dust get into it. U have to clean it up when it's jammed. I actually like the blue-back-lite from the D-Pad.. it feels cool. And the screen is as big as the W810i screen, 0.1inch bigger than K750i or W800i. But it's not that much different coz they use the same resolution, 176*220. Overall, i like this phone very much, it meets my requirement.. make sure u buy the ori 1, i but AP set, can't update firmware OTA. Haven't try to update firmware from SE Support tho.. I would recommend this phone to those who wants cheap 3G phone

dun have white colour, now only got silver and red. latter will have black colour that support i-mode. RM 865 is quite OK edi ^^ considering last time i bought mine (bout 1 month a go) is RM 950. Good luck..